Kalalau Trail

Jun 11, 2007 7:51PM

A tough hike but arguably one of the best in Hawaii. I highly recommend going the entire distance in one day because the camping is MUCH better at Kalalalu. If you are afraid of heights and ledges you are not going to like miles 6.5 to 8! Getting permits from the State are a real hassle.

Sheila - GoVisitHawaii

Jul 12, 2007 9:57AM

I've only hiked the first two miles in to Hanakapi'ai Beach and back and it was a fantastic hike! I've written up some advice about this hike here: http://www.govisithawaii.com/2007/05/17/hiking-kauais-kalalua-trail/

Jul 23, 2007 1:54PM

The most amazing hike i've done. I live on kauai, and a freind and I did this hike in and out in one day... Its not that bad, but you do need to be cautious and bring plenty of water or water filter! Takes about 14 hrs in and out at a good pace. Beware flash floods... I've seen many tourist (and locals) get stranded for a few days on the opposite sides of some of the rivers here (DO NOT TRY CROSSING IF YOU AT ALL DOUBT THE CONDITIONS) there have been many fatal accidents on this stretch of coastline. Overall great hike, and highly reccomended... just bring enouph water and make sure you hit it during dry weather. Aloha

Aug 06, 2007 11:29AM

We are coming to kauai to hike Napali Coast early October with our 6 & 8 year old children. We plan to pack in for 5 nights. What do you know about trail safety, drop-offs, etc.

Also, how to get there without a car as we don't want to leave a rental car at the trailhead for 6 days.

Thanks for your time.

Aug 06, 2007 6:02PM

Hello,
We're considering hiking the Kalalua Trail (entire hike) in November and are wondering what the conditions are typically like then. Also, we're wondering if the stop in Hanakoa is worthwhile, or if it's better to continue on to Kalalua Beach. How many nights do most hikers spend in all? Thank you!

Aug 07, 2007 12:04PM

I am visiting Kauai in the first week of Oct. & want to hike the Kalalau trail. I don't think I can make the entire 11-mile hike however, I would like to see Hanakoa falls. How far is Hanakoa falls from the beginning of this trail?

Aug 13, 2007 8:23AM

We hiked just the first two miles. The sceanery was absolutly beautiful. We would like to come back and hike the whole trail

Aug 14, 2007 12:22PM

Planning to do this labor day weekend. Is it possible to make it to Kalalau by nightfall if we start early in the morning? How long does the hike back take? I noticed someone mentioned taking young children - is this advisable? We're not planning to bring kids but the information on "narrow trails at great heights" and loose rocks makes me nervous. Then again, if someone took younger children I should hope I could make it :-)

Aug 17, 2007 1:52PM

awesome website thanks! Were spending 5 night in Sept. We're very light campers and were wondering if it was cool to harvest the Taro to make poi. Also if the Taro is relatively easy to find along the streams. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Aloha.

Aug 20, 2007 1:18PM

We are hoping to backpack the Kalalua trail in the middle of March, 2008. Do you know if you need a permit that time of the year? Also, do you have any idea the general weather for that time of the year for hiking the trail? Thank you very much.

Aug 21, 2007 3:41AM

I'm planning to hike to Kalalau and camp for a night before returning the next day. My question is: Is it worth camping there an extra night? If so, what would be do at Kalalau for the extra day (ie: day trips, or just sit on the beach). Thanks for all the info!

Aug 25, 2007 2:47PM

What is the temperature along the trail (in September) and how would you recommend we dress? Shorts?, Short or long sleeves? Jacket in the evening?
Thank you!

Aug 26, 2007 7:33PM

We are going to do the Kalalau trail the last week in October. What is a good way to get out to the trail without a car from the airport?? Is it advisable to go with rain?

Aug 27, 2007 10:50AM

Hi, I am hiking the Kalalau trail in November and plan to do it in one day (both ways)and am very excited. My friends are hoping to do a one way hike from Kalalau beach in December via a zodiak charter. A few years back Captain Zodiak would drop people off at Kalalau to hike out. Now that Captain Andy's has taken over they no longer do this. The boating/parks/enforcement/harbor master that I have spoken with all say that there are some companies that can still do this. I cannot locate them. Do you know what companies could either land on the beach or get close to shore and let them swim to the beach(obviously conditions would have to be considered too)? Thanks!

Aug 27, 2007 12:18PM

I am planning on hiking the entire trail in one day with a few friends. I am 27 and am in fairly good shape. What time would you recommend getting on the trail to have ample time to complete the hike? I was thinking of getting to the trailhead around 4am. Does this sound good? Do you have any pointers? Thanks!

Aug 28, 2007 3:10AM

Hi! My husband and I are thinking about doing the hike in late October. We are in our 20's and are active and in good shape, but are not very experienced hikers. Do you think it's safe for inexperienced hikers to do the 11-mile trail? And is there a service that could pick us up from the beach in October, so that we could enjoy the next day at the beach, but not have to do the whole hike back? Thanks! (Oh, and is too late now to get a permit for late October?) Thanks again!

Aug 30, 2007 12:22PM

Hi,
We've decided to do the Kalalau Trail a year from now - Aug./'08. We are 4 women in our 50s with year to get in even better shape. Our permits are in the mail. I'm only concerned about the notorious Mile 6.5 - Mile 8 "inches wide" part of the trail that seems to stop so many hikers. I also just read the article from The Garden Island June 25, '07 saying the Kalalau Trail is "neglected" and very unsafe. Would you please comment about both points? Do you think the trail might be improved/made safer by next year?
Thanks SO MUCH!

Aug 30, 2007 12:53PM

Yes, we planned on hiking the whole thing [22 miles] in one day. However, a few of them are changing thier mind now. Is it possible to do the hike in one day? A few years back my buddy and I hiked Mt. Whitney from 12,000ft to the summit and back down to 8,000ft in one day with 55lb backpacks on [about 15 miles]. I just wanted to know if we had a chance or not to do it. Thanks!

Aug 30, 2007 5:09PM

i will be in Kauai from sept 12-21 and wanted to hike to and camp at Kalalau. is there a set limit of camping permits that are issued per day? if so, what do you think my chances are of getting one now? thanks in advance for any info.

Aug 30, 2007 5:17PM

Last year we did the ridgeline hike on Oahu. If I can do that, then surely I can complete the Kalalau trail? We are hoping some friends will agree to drop us off early and then pick us up at the end of the day. I am most concerned about the steep parts, but was encouraged by the comments "I never feared for my life." Do lots of folks do the 11 mi in one day? At Christmas?

Aug 30, 2007 5:43PM

i just left a comment regarding camping permits for kalalau but meant to inquire about Hanakoa. thanks

Sep 02, 2007 3:20PM

Great website - thank you!

I was wonderign how steep the ledges are and whether bringing a 65L back pack is going to be at all a danger on the trail because of ledges or rivers or else?

Many thanks and best,
Rudy

pat

Sep 03, 2007 12:54AM

Hi, this is Patrick Sexton. I am wondering if we know eachother. I lived in Kalalau for awhile. I am going back soon and plan to devote some time to the trail restoration I keep hearing about.

I am in website promotion now, and I am pretty good at it. Your website looks great, offers great information, and it is cool as hell that you respond as well as you do to the comments here.
It is an impressive resource.
To see if you know me go to the about page of my website, there is a photo there of me. I used to work everywhere in Hanalei.
I am writing a bit about about Kalalau and will link to you and this page.
Let me know if we know eachother.

My question to you is, what is going on with any trail repair this winter?

tim

Sep 05, 2007 7:54AM

Hey, where can I get a good topo map of the area? Also, should I try for the permit now or wait until I get there? Thanks

Sep 07, 2007 3:45PM

Thanks for the really good details regarding the trail. My 21 year old son wants to hike this trail in December and take younger siblings and cousins -and maybe me. I feel a little relieved as I was imagining one wrong step and the result-sliding down a cliff. I can see that there are plenty of things to be cautious about.

Sep 10, 2007 2:29PM

Hello, a friend and I are planning on doing the 22 mile roundtrip in one day in less than two weeks. We are strong hikers and are not too concerned about the distance or the difficulty, but is a permit required if we are not going to camp, and is it too late to obtain one? Thank you for your response and your great site!

Sep 10, 2007 4:52PM

A question for you - I like to use trekking poles to save wear and tear on my already bad knee. Can you use them at all on the Kalalau trail or should I just leave them at home?

Sep 11, 2007 8:25AM

I plan on hiking the trail in mid-december....what should I guesstimate trail and weather wise? Also, do I obtain my camping pass and any other permits before my trip or when I get there??

Sep 11, 2007 8:52AM

Dear all,
I am going to Kauai tomorrow and plan to visit Kalalau valley during the 13th-17th of September. Does anyone know if there is a boat that can take me and my boyfriend in or out or both ways so we wouldn\'t have to hike. I have a back problem but I am dying to go there.
Thank you very much.
Marianna

Sep 13, 2007 12:58PM

Thanks to all Kauai Explorer Staff for the informative site! We plan on hiking the 11 miles during our visit in late October. We'd love to make it an over-nighter on the beach. Do you recommend hiking back out the following day or chartering a zodiac for the return trip (or even if this is possible)? We'll make sure to pick up the appropriate permit from the DNLR. Yabba Dabba Doo - can't wait!!

Sep 13, 2007 12:59PM

Sorry, I didn't read ahead...and I found my answer. No need to post previous message. Thanks!

Sep 13, 2007 5:35PM

I take great interest in the comments about hiking the entire trail in one day. That is the entire 22 miles. unless you are in tremendous hiking shape it will be extrmely difficult. You also will not enjoy the beauty of the hike and what it has to offer because you will be concerned about getting out before dark. I have been up as far as hanoka valley and back in one day(took 8 hours).Hiking in Nov/ Dec. is rainy more then other months. Keith

Sep 16, 2007 10:28AM

Hi, this site is great! We will be camping at Kalalau beach in late October, do you recommend a sleeping bag or just some clothes and a blanket? I noticed temps at night will be around 68 to 75 degrees F.
Thanks in advance!
Scott

Sep 18, 2007 5:04AM

hi
first of all, I want to let you know that this is THE GREAT site! A lot of useful information - the best resourse on Kauai I've ever seen.

I have couple question:
1. My wife and I (and maybe couple other friends) are going to hit Kalalau trail and spend 5 nights at the beach. We are planning to do this in February-March, so I wondering if this is a good time to do that, in terms of weather / "crowds"?
2. I saw some pictures and videos of those very narrow places that are dangerous around mile 7 (as far as I remember). Could you please tell me what's the condition of this part of the trail at the moment (and are they going to make it more safe?) and how many feet/meters does this dangerous part last?

Thank you for your response in advance.
Alexander.

Sep 18, 2007 9:49AM

Thank you very much for such a fast response. Great service!

One other question: it is very possible that I will make it only with my wife, so it will be only two persons. I was wondering if it is safe there at Kalalau beach, are people friendly there? Is it ok to leave the tent with some not so valuable stuff and hike into the valley, etc.?
Thanks.

Sep 18, 2007 9:09PM

Hi there I have been planning a trip to Kauai for the middle of Oct. I am extremely interested in all the hiking and camping available. Concerned though since I am a female traveling on my own. As well i would like to leave in a months time and do not have any permits yet. Is it likely once i am there I will meet others to hike with and what is my best option regarding permits? Thanks a million!

Sep 20, 2007 5:53AM

Hi. What a fantastic website!
We (8 trail marathon women runners) were planning to do the 11 mile
one way by having a boat drop us off at the end and hike back (next week -Sept. 29) After reading all the comments, it seems like this may not be an option because the boat couldn\'t get close enough this time of year. I also tried calling the number you gave above for getting a permit and just received an answering machine with limited instructions on sending in for one (which at this late date, won\'t work). Can we plan to go into the office next Friday and get the permit that day? If not, what are the penalties/fines? We will not be camping but are also considering doing the entire 22 miles in one day. What time will we need to leave to allow enough daylight to get out. Also, we\'ve never used water purifiers...are tablets o.k.? What about headlamps? Any cell service out there? Thanks so much for your insight.

Sep 23, 2007 10:42AM

my husband and i are planning a trip and we'd like to take 3 days, 2 nights to hike and enjoy the trails. what should we prepare for food-wise? is it reasonable to plan to hike to the falls one day and then the kalalau trail the second day, returning on the third day? we're fit, healthy and eager to explore.

Sep 26, 2007 7:53AM

I am so glad I found this site! I am a little confused about the logistics of the permits.

If we plan to hike all the way to Kalalau in one day, camp there a couple days and return in one day, do we only need a permit for that park?

If we decide to stop and camp on our way back in Hanakapi'ai or Hanakoa, do we need a separate permit?

Also, is it true that we will not be able to swim in the ocean? Snorkel?
Thanks!

Sep 26, 2007 10:30AM

First of all, great site and the comment section is actually very helpful!

Do you happen to know how many permits are issued for any given 5 night period? We have received our permits for early October and are just curious as to how many people to expect on the trail. (Hopefully not many but I know its a popular one!)

Also, I heard that Hanakapi'ai was technically closed to camping recently. Do you know if that is still true?

Sep 28, 2007 4:04AM

This is an absolutely wonderful site. I hiked Kalalau with a friend in the 70's. The most unbelievable hike imaginable. We lived off the land with the hippies and vietnam vets for 2 weeks in Kalalau.

Today, as a father, I would love to take my daughter (8 yrs old) and wife. Are there guided hikes? We plan on going in December.

Thank-you in advance for your response and great website.

Rob

Oct 04, 2007 1:11PM

Hello, I have a question regarding water purification. The Leptospirosis Information Center claims typical filtration systems don't work aginst it. They claim only boiling or iodine will treat infected water. What is your recommendation for treating water on the Kalalau?

Also, is this trail listed on any of the parks/recreation layers in Google Earth? I cannot find it.
Thanks and Aloha,
Troy

Oct 06, 2007 12:19PM

Hi. This site is really great. At the last minute we decided to go to Kauai so we haven't done much planning and we will be leaving in 2 weeks. where do we get these trail permits? Can we buy them from Kauai or do we have to buy them in advance and from where? The sate park's website was not very helpful. I am concerned that we wouldn't have enough time to wait for them in the mail. Thanks.

Oct 10, 2007 6:18AM

Fantastic site!

I too am planning a one-day trip to do the entire 22 mile trip. Unfortunately that's all I have time for, otherwise, I'd stretch it out a bit. Just last month I climbed the 22 mile, 6200 feet up and down Whitney in 13 hours including lengthy breaks. The distance doesn't worry me as much as the river crossings and of course the 6.5 to 8 mile stretches. Can you talk about the river crossings -- number of crossings, how deep they get etc.

Thanks alot

Oct 11, 2007 6:18AM

Thanks W.

Also, any idea where to get a good map of the trail. I'm particularly looking for an elevation profile. The map the parks service provides is photocopied and blurry and hard to read. I don't plan on getting lost or heading off trail, just curious what I have to look forward to on the ups and downs.

Oct 14, 2007 6:11PM

Hi! You're site it fabulous! My boyfriend and I are planning to hike the trail at the end of October and have a couple of questions. Do you know of a place near the trailhead where we can store extra gear for a couple of days? we'll be in Hawaii for a few weeks, but don't want to bring much gear on the trail. Also, is there a bus that travels from Hanalei to the trailhead and back? I've been researching Kauai bus options, and the only schedule that I have found doesn't go farther than Hanalei. Thanks in advance for your help!

Oct 15, 2007 4:29PM

thanks for the response on Lepto, but if you're just using the Katadyn filter, I don't thin it protects you from it, but I'm not sure.

If you've mapped it in Google earth with a GPS, do you think you could email me the *.kmz file (if you have one).???

Much appreciated. You definitely spread the aloha. Can't wait to hike it over T-day.
Thanks,
Troy

Oct 18, 2007 4:47AM

I was just about to ask about parking when I read your recommendation for the YMCA campground. Is it legal to leave a car parked at the trailhead? What are the risks (break-ins or vandalism common)? We're planning to spend 2-3 nights on Kalalau Beach in December -- but don't want to bring all our street/airplane clothes on the trail with us.

Oct 20, 2007 2:36PM

Awesome site. Very helpful! Thank you!

I will be spending 4 days (over Thanksgiving) in Kalalau, and am trying to learn as much as I can about that area during that time of the year. Things like usual trail conditions, stream crossings, weather, temperature at day/night, number of people on the trail and in Kalalau, etc.

This will help me greatly on packing my camping gear. Right now I am considering taking my backpacking summer tent, sleeping pad and a blanket style lightweight sleeping sack. Would that do fine at night? I am also debating between bringing my regular backpacking boot
s or lightweight hiking shoes
. Any recommendations?

Another thing is that I will be doing it by myself. I am experienced with hiking and backpacking, as well as rock climbing (thought of mentioning that just because I heard that the trail is very exposed at times), but I have never been to the Kalalau trail, so if there is anything I should be concerned about, it would be great to know now before I am out there in the wild...

Thanks again for all the help!

Oct 21, 2007 2:36PM

My husband and I will be in Kauai Dec. 2007. We are wondering if it is possible to begin by hiking the Kalalau trail and then continue inland end up at Kokee. If this is possible, do you have recommendations for camping sites along the way? Thanks!

Oct 28, 2007 12:38PM

This is a really great site. We are planning on liking the Kalalau Trail when we visit Kauai over Thanksgiving. On the DLNR website I didn't see the day use permits. Do I need a day use permit for this trail? Is there a way to be dropped off at the beach and then hike the 11 miles out? Also what other trail do you recommend if I only have time for one more hike besides the Kalalau Trail?

Thanks for the information.

Colton Gardner

Oct 31, 2007 11:09AM

This is the best place on Earth. This 11 mile hike is one of the greatest hikes I have ever done in my life. With all the beautiful views, I would recommend this to any backpacker. Even if you're not an avid backpacker, you can still get a glimpse of it by hiking in two miles to the Hanakapiai Beach and hiking to the waterfall, but no going past this point without a permit! This is a must-do trip when you have at least 3 days to spend on the trail. Don't forget your camera! I found tons of information about the trail at www.outdoorhighadventure.com! Thanks!

Nov 03, 2007 8:43PM

Just did Kalalau Trail as a day hike two days ago. Hope this info helps someone...

The permitting process has a new wrinkle: in order to go past Hanakoa you now need a camping permit ($10). The day hike permit gets you past Hanakapiai, but no further than Hanakoa. Being the beginning of November, I had no problem getting a walk-up permit at the State Parks office in Likue, but note that they close at 3:30 pm (I got there at 3:15!!).

The trail is quite muddy near the beginning and can be very rock-strewn in places. And hilly, and narrow, and overgrown, and...

But the views are incredible, which makes it all worthwhile.

I started at 6:15 am with a headlamp, taking 4.5 hours to Kalalau Beach. The return took 4 hours. Some route-finding is required near stream crossings and a few other places, but most of the challenge comes from the conditions, exposure, and hills. Oh yeah, did I mention that its hot and humid? You\'ll need plenty to drink.

Rain is your big enemy, as this trail can go from passably muddy to impossibly slippery. And it can rain any day, any time. I\'ve never been a big fan of trekking poles, but they are now on my shopping list.

For reference, I thought this hike was harder than my Grand Canyon rim-to-rim I did a month ago (7.25 hours, 24 miles).

For a warm-up two days earlier, I went to Kokee and did the Nualolo/Cliff Trail/Awaawapuhi loop, with legs for the vista points. Awesome!

--Andy

Nov 11, 2007 4:35PM

Hi, thanks for posting all this useful information. Perhaps it would help to compact them to a smaller version... A lot of them are being repeated.
I was curios if there is a taxi service or somebody you could hire in Hanalei to get a ride from the bus stop to YMCA... Also which other BACKPACKING trips would you recommend on Kauai?? Thanks for your dedication to this website.

Nov 12, 2007 8:13AM

Most informative site/board I've seen so far. A few questions:

1) When descriptions say that this trail is for "experienced" hikers, does this just refer to being in good physical shape or is there actual technical hiking knowledge/experience I need? I'm in very good athletic condition but have limited hiking experience.

2) I'm planning to go around Nov. 19-22. What are the chances of it being rainy and how dangerous would that be for a non-experienced hiker.

3) What are the chances of getting a camping permit with only a week until my trip?

Thanks!

Jeff

Nov 12, 2007 8:25AM

what are the conditions on the trail like? it sounds like 6.5-8 can be dangerous. we're thinking about doing an overnight trip to the beach but don't want to get turned around.

Nov 13, 2007 8:13AM

Just wanted to report back. I just got back from Kauai. Finished the out and back in just over 12 hours, including an hour nap in at Kalalau beach. Overall, I couldn't have asked for more perfect conditions which certainly contributed to me finishing in a relatively quick pace.

River crossings were not at all high, the 6.5 - 8 mile cliffs of insanity were actually not at a problem at all. Looks like they had been recently shoveled a bit. There was only a bit of mud in the first 2 mile stretch but other than that, it never rained on me.

I heard from lots of people and websites that you couldn't do it in one day, but I think if things go well, and you've trained (I did) for the hike, then it is not at all impossible to get it done.

That said, for all of you contemplating doing it in one day, I think it is very possible, but you should be prepared to turn around if you're not hitting your times for the various milestones or if the weather/trail isn't behaving.

Nov 14, 2007 8:03PM

Do any of you know if this is a good trail for the end of dec.? Whats the weather like? I have not applied for a permit yet, do you think it'll be easy to get one? Thanks.

Nov 15, 2007 2:27PM

Fantastic work-from surfing to hiking you all got it down-thanks so much. I\'m gonna slam you with a brick of questions so hold on.

My fiance and I will be heading to Kaua\'i come the beginning of January and staying in Hanalei. First, I realize it will be seasonally wet, is it even encouraged to hike the Na Pali coast at this time? Or am I just look\'n for a good ol\' drench\'n?

Second, I\'ve read that obtaining permits can be difficult, beyond disorganization, but rather do to capacity. Is there a quota and is Jan popular on the trail?

Third, when we land in Lihue, where can we find a gear shop for stove fuel?

Fourth, Is the Na Pali coast through hiked? And if so where do folks exit (if coming from Kee)?

Next, most of the postings/info I read note entering from hwy 56. Is it possible to enter the Na Poli coast from hwy 550 (Kokee SP) and through hike out to Kee Beach Park and hitch into Hanalei? Or from 50 (Polihale SP)for that matter?

Lastly, whats the island hitch hiking like in general? Legal, easy, safe??

I realize lots-o-questions. Thanks for your resourcefulness.

D

ps. I\'m open to additional responses from insightful travelers. Thanks.

Nov 17, 2007 11:06PM

I am planning to do Na Pali as an over night in May '08. I am traveling alone and would like to meet up with other hikers. Can you recommend somewhere that I might meet people to hike with? thx!

Nov 18, 2007 6:50AM

In mid-December, my friends and I are planning to hike the Kalalau trail. This will be our first time...is there any way of meeting up with a group of people and making the hike? Do they do group hikes?

Also, what type of filtering/purification system would you recommend? And is it safe to camp on Kalalau beach during the winter? I've read about the high and strong tides as well as tsunamis?!

Thanks,
Lisa

Nov 18, 2007 8:06AM

I finally found the website that answers all my questions after looking for weeks through all those useless sites. This site should pop up on Google among top three on search for Hawaii.
Thank you very much.

Nov 19, 2007 3:34PM

Thanks W for your last response, very helpful!

Failed to inquire about this YMCA outside of Hanalei. I have been reading about the potential to store stuff there while on the Na Pali coast. Can anyone elaborate? Are there lockers? Is it secure? Does it cost? Any folks out there use the Y as a storage resource?

Much appreciated! Again, you all rock it!

D

Nov 22, 2007 8:38AM

Thanks for your answer. One more thing poped up my mind. I wasn't sure if we should rent a car but now I think we might just to be more flexible and to be able o keep our extra gear in it since there are no lockers. Do you think it is better to get a SUV or you can do mostly without it?? I will be there 11/24-12/10 THX

Nov 28, 2007 5:20AM

We walked it in one day (11mi) 2 years ago. Conditions were dry, thankfully.
The last few miles were virtually impassible due to erosion and damage from the feral goats. Even rangers don't hike past the 6 mile mark. It should be closed to the public in these treacherous areas---certain death should you slip. We passed people who turned back in tears from shear terror. The beach was great at the end, but the hike out loomed and terrifed me. My husband blew out a Teva and almost went over on a goat-path portion of the trail. I gave him my sandal and did the last 3 or so miles barefoot, as my feet are tough. We finished the hike by moonlight at night. Passed out on the beach--so much for all the camping gear!
Think twice before risking the entire trail---you will see your life pass before your eyes! (PS: we were 46 and 57 at the time--and in excellent shape)

Stephen

Nov 28, 2007 12:16PM

My son and I would like to backpack all the way to Kalalau. How are the conditions and should I get a pass ahead of time or just wait until I get it there. We would be hiking in on Dec 11th. Thanks Stephen

Stephen

Dec 01, 2007 10:00PM

There's so much rain right now. Is Kalalau even possible to hike? Do you know any one who has been up there recently? Would you happen to have the phone number for the ranger station? Thanks, Stephen

Dec 05, 2007 7:17AM

Hey there! I must say, this website has been so helpful! My hubby and I will be doing the entire hike in late June/early July. We have a permit for four nights, so we can really take our time and enjoy everything. It may have been posted, but what to do about poo? I usually don't do the deed on long hikes, but just in case... I want to be prepared. Someone said that you should bring a container to haul it out. What is required for the state? Thanks everyone!

Dec 06, 2007 5:44AM

Another question: We are backpacking all the way and will not be renting a car (on this island anyway). Anyone know of a service that can pick us up to the airport and drop us off at the trail head, and maybe an estimated cost? Someone referred Bran's taxi service and said they were good. Also, I guess we need to tell them a estimated time to pick us up. What about hitchhiking? Someone else told me that's the only way they've traveled on Kauai. I guess with anywhere you hitchhike there's a risk.

Dec 06, 2007 8:17PM

I'm travelling to Hawaii by myself late January. I want to walk the full length of the Kalalau Trail. Do you have a guide service or can you recommend a guide?

Dec 06, 2007 8:29PM

Regarding the last question about getting to the trailhead... I just did the trail over Thanksgiving and the way I did it was by catching the Lihue-Hanaley public bus ($1.50) to Hanaley and hitchhiking from there to the trail head. Getting a lift in Hanaley was super easy and took me literally less than 30 seconds, since almost everyone driving by Hanaley going west is heading to the trailhead area. Same happened to the ride back to Hanaley from the trailhead. In Hanaley was also where I bought a fuel canister for my stove at Kayak Kauai.

The trail was in great shape, with just a couple of scatchy spots near mile 7 where the trail is narrow and exposed. The streams were really low. The surf was super high, making it loud at night (don't recommend camping at the beach in Kalalau, but instead at the spots just above it). If you need to camp near the trailhead to start early next day I suggest the Haena Beack Park, which is 1 mile from the trailhead.

The week after Thanksgiving it rained like crazy in Kauai, so I am not sure if that changed the trail conditions very much, but when I went everything was dry and perfect.

Happy hiking!

Dec 07, 2007 8:09AM

Carlos- About how long was the bus ride from Lihue to Hanalei?

I'm a bit worried, because we are supposed to camp the first night at the 6 mile marker. Our flight doesn't arrive until 1:47p. How strict are they with permits? For example, if we didn't feel we could make it the first night, could we just camp at the trailhead and get an early start?

Dec 07, 2007 6:14PM

Miranda - I caught the bus in Kapaa, across from the library, and it took me about 40 minutes to get to Hanalei. The bus runs every two hours, and I am not sure if it goes by the airport, so you might need a connection.

I doubt your plan to sleep at mile 6 would work. Hanakapiai at mile 2 is much better for you giving your schedule, and even that might be hard. Even though I read Hanakapiai was closed for camping there were tons of sites setup and Kalalau hikers camping there when I was there (I also camped there on my first night). That beach is also 100 times better for camping than the woods and mosquitoes at mile 6.

In case you get to the trailhead too late for mile 2, an option is the Kee beach at the trailhead, although I would just consider this option in case
of an emergency, since there was no fresh water or campsites there.

As for permits... while I was in Kalalau I talked to some hippies who live there about it. They said the rangers just patrol the trail once a month, and that they issue a $80 ticket when they find a violation. I would think they would let you pass if you had the permit, but were just off by a day.

Good luck!

Dec 14, 2007 6:33PM

We were planning on hiking the Kalalau Trail this coming week but I know its been raining pretty steadily for the past few weeks. Does anyone have any info on the trail condition and river crossings?

Bart

Dec 15, 2007 8:29AM

We are planning to hike this trail in February (2 nights 3 days). I was wondering if anyone can compare the difficulty of Kalalau Trail to The West Coast Trail on Vancouver Island BC Canada. I realize the WCT is longer and a through hike but both are in mountainous rainforest and along beaches and headlands. Does the Kalalau Trail have ladders, slippery boardwalks, and are ropes required in certain sections? Are there surge channels on the Kalalau Trail? I've hiked the WCT twice and would appreciate a point of reference.

Dec 16, 2007 1:54PM

I have had the pleasure of exploring the very beginning of the trail, and have planned a trip with my son for the summer of '08. Are there any communicaitons you can rely on? Is there any cell reception or maybe a handheld VHF in case of trouble?

Also, I prefer to use the Hennessey Hammock to sleep in. Would I be stepping on any toes or are you restricted to using preset pads for tents? Thanks for the site. D

Dec 17, 2007 6:14AM

Sean, or anyone else. Let us know what the Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources say if you happen to call. Happy Holidays everyone!

Dec 18, 2007 7:08PM

Anyone have any more info about Kalalau being closed? I've been planning this hike for the last year and will be on the trail and at the campgrounds next week...please tell me its open...

Dec 19, 2007 8:04AM

For anyone reading this website and trying to decide on whether or not to make this hike, you will be missing the most beautiful scenery on the face of this earth if you do not do so. I have hiked to Hanakapi`ai on 3 separate visits and highly recommend it. If you can get past the very beginning 1/2 mile or so, the remaining 1 and 1/2 miles to Hanakapi`ai is easier. I am in my early 50s, in somewhat decent shape and made it to Hanakapi`ai and back in less than 4 hours with numerous Kodak moment stops.

Please don\'t miss the opportunity to experience the beauty of the Napoli Coast.

Dec 19, 2007 4:05PM

If I leave my car at the ymca camp naue, how far is it to the Kalalau trail head?

Dec 22, 2007 3:42PM

Why are the so many reccomendations not to do his hike alone other than the natural hazards? Thx

Dec 23, 2007 9:04AM

Hi,

Thanks for the great site.
A couple of Q's:
1. We're planning to visit Kauai for 8 days in February. Is this the wrong (i.e. too wet/ streams too intense) time of year to attempt this hike?
2. Just how scary IS the miles 6.5 to 8 section? (We've done some intense hiking here in BC, but reading that the hike gets a 9/10 for difficulty from the Sierra Club AND my disinclination to slide to my death does give me some pause...)

Any info greatly apreciated.

Simon

Dec 25, 2007 11:09PM

I was wondering what companies will drop you off at Kalalau? I wanted to be dropped off on the beach, camp, and then hike back. Also, are there showers at this beach or should I just rely on the ocean to get clean?

Dec 26, 2007 2:54AM

I keep reading that the the trail is extremely narrow between miles 6.5 and 8. Is the trail narrow the entire 1.5 miles or just certain sections of that 1.5 miles? If the trail is only narrow in certain sections between the 6.5 and 8 mile markers, what\'s the distance? I can maybe walk a death defying narrow trail for 20 or 30 feet but 1.5 miles - I don\'t think so.

Also, from the photos I\'ve seen, the trail looks like it\'s as narrow as 1 foot (30cm) along the edge of the cliffs? Is that an accurate measurement?

Dec 26, 2007 6:02PM

Is it safe to leave a rental car at the trailhead for 4 days? State Parks service recommends against it in its brochure.
What do you guys think?

Dec 28, 2007 9:22AM

Is anyone considering going on this hike during the week of January 20th -25th? I\'d love to meet up with other hikers going at the same time.

Michelle, I noticed you mentioned you were going in late January. Any chance that would be during the same week?

Dec 28, 2007 1:29PM

I hiked in after a lot of weather.(12/10-11) The trail was closed but I was not to be turned back. I am a very experienced hiker and glacier skier so I thought this would be a piece of cake. hahaha !!! You can only accomplish about a mile an hour and watch out for goat trails. Its easy to get lost..so think. The hike is medium...just long. If your a walk the dog around the block and think your a hiker, don't even think about this hike. Also if you are afraid of heights...I used a walking stick (Stick Tracy) to displace my weight. I lost about 10 pounds on the hike...I kept cinching in my buckles on my pants and pack. Check in with Mayor Ricky at MP 10 and PLEASE pack it in and pack it out. Most of the garbage that you will see is from the hikers not the hippies. The mile post come at you VERY SLOWLY. You might think you have hiked 3 miles but you have gone only one. I will be back..this time with my wife. Enjoy and be safe.

Dec 30, 2007 10:28AM

Just wanted to know if anyone has been in the past few days 25th-29th and what the weather and trail were like.

cheers
josh

Dec 31, 2007 10:09AM

My sister and I will be hiking the trail next summer and have 5 day permits already acquired. We are interested in having a zodiac pick us up the last day on Kalalau beach as to not have to hike out. Has anyone done this? Are there are boating companies that can or would do this? Does the state allow it? thanks much.

Dec 31, 2007 1:12PM

My wife and I (both mid 30\'s and avid hikers) hiked in/out last Monday-Thursday (Dec 24-27) and I have to say the trail was super muddy and treacherous on our way out...it rained most of our hike out. The narrow cliff section that we\'ve all heard about was to me not the worst/most scary part of the hike...it was other areas that had been washed out due to rain that had some 6-12 inch trails. We also had a challenge crossing the final stream back (was up to my waist) due to the rain. The hike in wasn\'t too bad...good weather and beautiful views. I will concur that the miles do go by very slowly. All in all, I think if you are patient, leave yourself a bit more time that you think you\'ll need and take it one step at a time in certain secions, you\'ll be ok. I recommend a walking stick - helped alot (was my first time using one). Left our car at the trailhead (as did others we met) and luckily no breakins. Met other hikers and \"inhabitants\" and all very friendly and helpful. Took us 8.5 hrs on way in (one day) and 9hrs + 1.5hr on way out (over 2 days). From what I could tell...campsite at Hanokoa not worth staying at...lots of garbage around, bugs...if you have a choice, try to get to Kalalau. Also...we came across a number of people who hiked in one day and out the next - my advice (and I think W agrees) would be to give yourself at least a day to enjoy the surroundings once you get there...and rest your body. You owe it to yourself at such a beautiful place. Well I'm back home now but left with fond memories of a special place. Trying to address some of the things I wondered about before my trip. And if some of you are wondering...the toilets aren't that bad. Thanks to W on this site for such great info. Have fun!

Jan 01, 2008 9:33AM

My husband and I, and another couple, are planning on doing the hike in April, spending one night on the beach. We presently do not have a lot of hiking gear. I am interested in going light as possible. Do you think it would be a good idea to rent some equipment when we get there? This way we would also avoid hauling stuff on the airplane.
We have hiked several times to the falls and have always dreamed of doing the full hike. We do not normaly backpack or spend the night. Do you have any suggestions for some tasty food that is easy and light to pack? I\'m sure we\'ll be plenty hungry when we get there. Thanks for your advice!

Jan 04, 2008 12:33PM

I'm looking to hike in August. The websites to the DNLR are not functional nor is the voicemail. I got enough info to know to send a request with drivers license. Are there two permits involved? one for camping and one for hiking? or is it a single all inclusive permit.

I have hiked the Waipio to Wiamanu trail on the Big Island. How much more (or less) strenuous is the Kalalau trail?

Thanks... this is a very useful website.

Jan 05, 2008 6:20PM

Again, thank you for this effort. This is by far the most informative site I have found about Kauai. What is your best recommendation for getting day permits for the Kalalau Trail? Do you have to get them at the Lihue office? Will they mail them to the mainland? Thanks.

Jan 07, 2008 8:23AM

Great site - really informative.

Quick question about permits, I am going to try and get a permit for when I head there next month but from what I\'ve read here it seems I may have some problems. Are they really strict about this (ie do they turn people back?)

Also, does the DLNR give both camping AND hiking permits?

Thanks!

Jan 07, 2008 9:44AM

I am considering hiking the Kalalau trail in one day (22 miles or as many as I can given my time constraints). Approximately how long does the entire trail take (in and out) and do I need a permit for just the day hike? Also, do you know how far or how long it takes from the airport to the trailhead?

Jan 07, 2008 10:43AM

My wife and I are planning to hike in later this week and do not want to leave our rental car at the trail head. We already have a 5 day permit.

Is there a public transit service to the trail head? Or do you have any other suggestions on access to the trail head?

Jan 08, 2008 8:10AM

We are looking to hike the trail in early February. Can you tell me what conditions on the trail will be like at this time? Also, two members of our party are afraid of heights, although they are experienced hikers. Can you tell me approximately how narrow the narrowest stretches of ledge are at miles 6.5 - 8, and how long these sections last? Also, is it a ledge walk for that entire portion of the trail?? Thanks for this great site!

Jan 10, 2008 4:49AM

Aloha,

I will be on vacation in the first week of March 2008 on Kauai. I plan on hiking Kalaiau Trail to Hanakapi’ai Falls and back to Kee all in one day (8 miles in all). I plan on starting at the Kee trail head about 8am. My question is if I start my hike at 8am and hike to the Falls, spend about an hour at the Falls, then head back to the trail head what time of day can I expect to be back at Kee Beach? Should I plan anything else in my itinerary for this day? I am hoping to finish my hike round-trip about 1 or 2pm in the afternoon so I can crash for awhile at Kee or Tunnels beach before sunset.

John Heineman

Jan 11, 2008 3:51AM

I began my hike solo Christmas Day with the clear intention of making the trip the full eleven miles, camping under the stars, the hiking out the next day. I had read the article in Backpacker Magazine (October 07)listing Kalalau Beach as their number one choice for Americas Best Campsite. I sat many a night drinking a martini with my good friend talking of my plans. Setting out at 8:30am after a very rainy night, what I encountered was beyond expectation. Fantastic views, kind people (the few I encountered), and great photo opportunities. I neophyte at best with full gear backpacking, mistake number one was overpacking. I carried close to forty pounds (all for on night), didn\'t bring poles, and often struggled maintaining balance in the slippery trail. I stopped too often, like a kid at Christmas, taking a multitude of pictures. long story short, seven hours into the hike, a had reached the first campsite in the valley (about 6.5 miles). It was three o\'clock by then and I had to abandon my dream of making it to the beach. It was a treacherous, exhausting, and yet beautiful failure. Time limited my ability to complete the journey, and I\'ll make sure that doesn\'t happen again. Yes, there will be an again! A few tips: Pack as light as possible, Get tablets or a filter (I carried a gallon jug), take poles in the rainy season, take organized breaks, and most of all, embrace the journey! Peace

Jan 12, 2008 2:55AM

A bit of home video has been posted on YouTube regarding the treacherous 6.5-8 mile stretch. I found it while researching as I'll be hiking this summer. Here is the link which will take you directly to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrSKoqm-HCw

I'm not sure exactly which mile this was at, but it at least gives a picture for us future hikers!

Jan 13, 2008 6:48AM

Hi,

We are planning to hike the whole Kalalau trail in May. We would like to stay one night at the campsite and return next day. Can someone tell me where to get the application form and do I need to send the money with ? What is the best procedure to receive the permit as soon as possible ? Thanks for help....

Thomas.

Jan 13, 2008 2:00PM

I read that the Kalalalu trail is an 11 mile trail that begins at Ke`e Beach. If I am hiking the Hanakapiai trail will I get to Kalalalu trail. So then the hike is 15 miles one way? Can I start the Kalalalu trail somewhere without hiking Hanakapaiai? Where is the trailhead? Realistically, can a good hiker hike all 22 miles in one day? in April? I'd like to hike Hanakapia one day and Kalalalu the other. I hope these questions make sense. Thanks

Henry

Jan 13, 2008 4:30PM

Aloha:

I am planing to hike to Hanakapi’ai Falls during the last week in January. What do I need to know about the Falls trail. I read it is tough due to the water crossings, etc.

What can you tell me about it? Does it flood with every rain?

Thanks,

Jan 14, 2008 7:05AM

Hi there, been reading about the lack of water, but I assume there is reliable water at Kalalalu? I like to treat with chemicals, as they are so much lighter than a filter - any reason that wouldn't work? i.e. no stream deep enough to dip a bottle in.

Also, are there any funky hostels on the island worth checking out?

Thanks,
j.

Jan 14, 2008 1:22PM

Just a note to give a "at a boy" to the DLNR. Sent my application Jan. 04 (from Ohio) and just received my camping permit (Kalalau) today. They even called me for additional info they needed. They were really on the ball (maybe due to the slow season?). Anyway they did reallllllllll gooood!!! Will be on the trail Feb. 23...Need this trip to forget about the LSU butt kickin.

Jan 14, 2008 4:10PM

Thanks, W. Just to note, I followed the youtube a few posts up and there were several good clips about the hike and that show what the cliffs look like.

Jan 14, 2008 8:03PM

Great site! How many people are usually camped at Kalalau on an average night, and is it possible to find a tree limb in the woods to use for a walking stick?

Jan 18, 2008 9:31AM

Just wanted to let folks know that I emailed the local DLNR for a permit and received a very friendly note back from Pearl in that office. I sent in the application with a check for the funds, and received the permit in about a week. No problem. I and my boyfriend are hiking the trail starting February 21.

Jan 20, 2008 11:54PM

My wife and I are hiking the Kalalau trail at the end of February, we have family that live on the island. Can we hike only one-way and be picked up at the end of our hike? Or do we have to hike both ways for a total of 22 miles? We hike at altitude in Colorado and 11 miles is very common to hike to summit a fourteener but the return trip is always not as enjoyable(been there, done that)!

Jan 21, 2008 7:31PM

I hiked this trail last weekend with my wife and a friend. Getting the permit was not an issue, just get it early. We camped Friday night at the state park and left our car there overnight without issue Saturday. The trail conditions were fine. The first three miles have a few muddy sections but nothing unmanageable. We made it to Kalalau Beach in 6 hours and made it back the following day in about 5 and a half. A couple tips that are mentioned on this site that I would like to reinforce are to start hiking early to avoid the heat and to pack as light as possible. My pack was just over 30 lbs. and my wife’s was 20 (and that included wine and scotch!). If you are from Colorado and an avid hiker (like me) you will have no problem with this trail.
Below are a few GPS waypoints I took along the way if anyone is interested. They are generally within 150 ft because I couldn’t always get a good signal at the exact point.
Ke’e Beach: N 22, 13.110 / W 159, 34.870
Hanakapiai(2 miles): N 22, 12.507 / W 159, 35.858
Hanakoa (6 miles): N 22, 11.450 / W 159, 37.180
Kalalau(11 miles): N 22, 10.510 / W 159, 39.280
Enjoy and thanks for all the great info on this site!

Jan 23, 2008 3:53PM

Kathy-- and everyone else! If you are wanting to pack light, yet make yummy homemade meals on the trail, pick up Lipsmackin\' Backpackin\' cookbook. It helps if you have a dehydrator, but you can also use the oven. It\'s really great if you want to save yourself some money and make your own meals.

Jan 23, 2008 7:22PM

Does anyone know if there are lockers at the airport where one can leave a change of clothes? The last day of our hike we are just coming off the trail and going back to the airport to catch our flight home (to Seattle) and are wondering if we could leave a pair of jeans in a locker?

Jan 24, 2008 4:24PM

I have found it quite difficult to get permit info from any of the park offices. We need a permit for hiking only (no camping)for the entire Kalalau Trail (Mar 08). What's the best way to get a permit - ahead of time, if possible??