Kalalau Trail
A.K.A. Na Pali Coast, Photo by Wasabi

Na Pali - the Cliffs in Hawaiian - is one of the most beautiful and remote areas on Kaua‘i. The strenuous eleven-mile Kalalau Trail winds along this rugged coastline, providing the only land access to legendary Kalalau Valley. The trail and facilities are rugged; some eroded areas are very narrow over cliffs that are hundreds of feet high.
CAMPING PERMITS
The Kalalau Trail is currently OPEN for hiking.
http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/announcements/index.cfm
Questions? Call the DLNR for more info: (808) 274-3444
Hawaii DLNR Main (info may not be current).
DLNR State Parks Fees and Permits
Latest info about campsite closures from DLNR.
Read the latest article from The Garden Island Newspaper about funding for fixing the Kalalau trail.
Things To Bring
- Permit
- Water filter
- Sun Protection
- First aid
- Appropriate footwear
- Camping gear
Cool Because
The difficulty of this trail and remote location of Kalalau Valley make this a pristine nature experience off the beaten trail. Some say that Na Pali is one of the most beautiful coastlines in the world.
Topography
11 mile trail begins at Ke`e Beach and traverses along high cliffs above ocean, ending at Kalalau Valley. Narrow path passes in and out of coastal valleys with steep inclines and declines. Trail conditions may range from muddy puddles to dry, crumbly rock. Eroding cliffs and big surf sometimes take out small sections of trail.
Not Good For
Those that do not have strong endurance and in good physical condition.
Hazards
Rated a '9' out of '10' in degrees of difficulty by the Sierra Club. Extreme inclines and declines throughout entire 11 miles. Narrow footpaths on high cliffs. Loose rocks underfoot and from eroding cliffs above. Trail is slippery when muddy. Strong sun. Heavy backpacks can cause overexertion. Filter all water. Strong currents and flash flooding can occur at river crossings. Dangerous shorebreak and riptides at Hanakapi`ai and Kalalau.
Logistics
No water. Composting toilets. Camping by permit only at Hanakapi`ai (2 miles), Hanakoa (6 miles) and Kalalau (11 miles). Day use permit is required when hiking further than the 2 mile valley, Hanakapiai.
DIFFICULTY
Strenuous
LENGTH
11 Miles (one way)
User Rating
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3.1 / 5 (1802 votes)
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Jun 11, 2007 7:51PM
A tough hike but arguably one of the best in Hawaii. I highly recommend going the entire distance in one day because the camping is MUCH better at Kalalalu. If you are afraid of heights and ledges you are not going to like miles 6.5 to 8! Getting permits from the State are a real hassle.
Sheila - GoVisitHawaii
Jul 12, 2007 9:57AM
I've only hiked the first two miles in to Hanakapi'ai Beach and back and it was a fantastic hike! I've written up some advice about this hike here: http://www.govisithawaii.com/2007/05/17/hiking-kauais-kalalua-trail/
Jul 23, 2007 1:54PM
The most amazing hike i've done. I live on kauai, and a freind and I did this hike in and out in one day... Its not that bad, but you do need to be cautious and bring plenty of water or water filter! Takes about 14 hrs in and out at a good pace. Beware flash floods... I've seen many tourist (and locals) get stranded for a few days on the opposite sides of some of the rivers here (DO NOT TRY CROSSING IF YOU AT ALL DOUBT THE CONDITIONS) there have been many fatal accidents on this stretch of coastline. Overall great hike, and highly reccomended... just bring enouph water and make sure you hit it during dry weather. Aloha
Aug 06, 2007 11:29AM
We are coming to kauai to hike Napali Coast early October with our 6 & 8 year old children. We plan to pack in for 5 nights. What do you know about trail safety, drop-offs, etc.
Also, how to get there without a car as we don't want to leave a rental car at the trailhead for 6 days.
Thanks for your time.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 06, 2007 12:34PM
Bruce - I emailed you this info. Have fun!
Aug 06, 2007 6:02PM
Hello,
We're considering hiking the Kalalua Trail (entire hike) in November and are wondering what the conditions are typically like then. Also, we're wondering if the stop in Hanakoa is worthwhile, or if it's better to continue on to Kalalua Beach. How many nights do most hikers spend in all? Thank you!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 06, 2007 8:27PM
November can be nice but I know better than to predict conditions after 30 years on Kauai. Hanakoa falls is beautiful but I have always hiked the entire trail in one day because the camping so superior at Kalalau. Visit Hanakoa falls then keep going to Kalalau. Spend as many nights as you can!
Aug 07, 2007 12:04PM
I am visiting Kauai in the first week of Oct. & want to hike the Kalalau trail. I don't think I can make the entire 11-mile hike however, I would like to see Hanakoa falls. How far is Hanakoa falls from the beginning of this trail?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 07, 2007 3:09PM
Hanakoa valley is 6 miles from the Ke?e beach trailhead. The falls are about 3/4 mi. up valley from the Hanakoa stream crossing. About 13.5 tough miles if you want to do a day hike (which I have and it's great). Watch out during rains or for any sudden change in stream level.
Aug 13, 2007 8:23AM
We hiked just the first two miles. The sceanery was absolutly beautiful. We would like to come back and hike the whole trail
Aug 14, 2007 12:22PM
Planning to do this labor day weekend. Is it possible to make it to Kalalau by nightfall if we start early in the morning? How long does the hike back take? I noticed someone mentioned taking young children - is this advisable? We're not planning to bring kids but the information on "narrow trails at great heights" and loose rocks makes me nervous. Then again, if someone took younger children I should hope I could make it :-)
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 14, 2007 1:57PM
If you hike / walk / run on a regular basis this hike is very doable in 1 day. I ran the trail in 2 hrs 16 minutes once and have hiked with a pack in 4 hours. Yes, the trail is narrow but I have never feared for my life. Do not pack heavy and you will have more fun.
Aug 17, 2007 1:52PM
awesome website thanks! Were spending 5 night in Sept. We're very light campers and were wondering if it was cool to harvest the Taro to make poi. Also if the Taro is relatively easy to find along the streams. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Aloha.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 17, 2007 2:15PM
Thanks for the compliment Mitch and the interesting question. Taro does grow wild down the Na Pali but I have never eaten Kalo from there. Don't know how it would compare to the Kalo cultivated in Hanalei. I am cautious to say it's OK to harvest because this is a public forum and some might take offense. That said, there are many sources of food down the Na Pali. Have fun.
Aug 20, 2007 1:18PM
We are hoping to backpack the Kalalua trail in the middle of March, 2008. Do you know if you need a permit that time of the year? Also, do you have any idea the general weather for that time of the year for hiking the trail? Thank you very much.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 20, 2007 2:13PM
Yes - you should always attempt to get permits for camping. The State DLNR does not make it easy, but at least you'll have a good story when the rangers check. March can be very rainy or very sunny - hard to call.
Aug 21, 2007 3:41AM
I'm planning to hike to Kalalau and camp for a night before returning the next day. My question is: Is it worth camping there an extra night? If so, what would be do at Kalalau for the extra day (ie: day trips, or just sit on the beach). Thanks for all the info!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 21, 2007 6:49PM
I went to Kalalau today and wished I could have spent the night. My opinion: stay as many nights as you can. There is plenty of great exploring at Kalalau - just watch out for the ocean and loose rock zones.
Aug 25, 2007 2:47PM
What is the temperature along the trail (in September) and how would you recommend we dress? Shorts?, Short or long sleeves? Jacket in the evening?
Thank you!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 25, 2007 7:23PM
Hiking on Kauai any time of year is pretty much the same in terms of temperature. The key is to be aware and prepare for the conditions you might encounter. Kauai hiking is usually hot and humid. Pack light and bring just what you need.
Light shorts and top that can get wet then dry multiple times during the day are the best. For camping / night long pants and some kind of hoodie are nice. My preferred stuff is Patagonia Capiline (other brands too) because it dries super quick and provides sun protection.
If I'm gonna hike back in one of the valleys I'll bring an ultra-lightweight shell that packs to softball-size. This is because it can get slightly cool and breezy in the valley streams and shade. Once you start hiking again the shell quickly comes off.
When it rains - and it can rain very hard at times - no shell will keep you dry and comfortable inside. The best thing is to pack your stuff to keep it dry and go for it. It is actually a lot of fun.
Aug 26, 2007 7:33PM
We are going to do the Kalalau trail the last week in October. What is a good way to get out to the trail without a car from the airport?? Is it advisable to go with rain?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 26, 2007 10:11PM
You can hitchhike, take a cab or go via the Kauai bus. Light rain is OK but heavy flash flood conditions can be dangerous.
Aug 27, 2007 10:50AM
Hi, I am hiking the Kalalau trail in November and plan to do it in one day (both ways)and am very excited. My friends are hoping to do a one way hike from Kalalau beach in December via a zodiak charter. A few years back Captain Zodiak would drop people off at Kalalau to hike out. Now that Captain Andy's has taken over they no longer do this. The boating/parks/enforcement/harbor master that I have spoken with all say that there are some companies that can still do this. I cannot locate them. Do you know what companies could either land on the beach or get close to shore and let them swim to the beach(obviously conditions would have to be considered too)? Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 27, 2007 11:22AM
Cool Brian - both ways is tough. I did it in my 20's and was happily sore afterwards. I also used to work for Captain Zodiac when we did the Kalalau drop-off and pick-up (perhaps I even took you).
December is NOT a good month to get on the beach at Kalalau unless you are an expert swimmer AND the surf is flat. Landing permits are limited to the summer I think only Kayak companies provide this service these days.
Aug 27, 2007 12:18PM
I am planning on hiking the entire trail in one day with a few friends. I am 27 and am in fairly good shape. What time would you recommend getting on the trail to have ample time to complete the hike? I was thinking of getting to the trailhead around 4am. Does this sound good? Do you have any pointers? Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 27, 2007 4:28PM
Are you talking about IN and OUT to Kalalau?
Aug 28, 2007 3:10AM
Hi! My husband and I are thinking about doing the hike in late October. We are in our 20's and are active and in good shape, but are not very experienced hikers. Do you think it's safe for inexperienced hikers to do the 11-mile trail? And is there a service that could pick us up from the beach in October, so that we could enjoy the next day at the beach, but not have to do the whole hike back? Thanks! (Oh, and is too late now to get a permit for late October?) Thanks again!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 28, 2007 7:09AM
No, there is not a pickup service at the end of the 11 mile Kalalau trail - so you would have to hike in and out in 1 day (22 tough miles). I recommend going to Hanakapiai falls instead (8 miles round trip). You do not need a permit for Hanakapiai. Have fun!
Aug 30, 2007 12:22PM
Hi,
We've decided to do the Kalalau Trail a year from now - Aug./'08. We are 4 women in our 50s with year to get in even better shape. Our permits are in the mail. I'm only concerned about the notorious Mile 6.5 - Mile 8 "inches wide" part of the trail that seems to stop so many hikers. I also just read the article from The Garden Island June 25, '07 saying the Kalalau Trail is "neglected" and very unsafe. Would you please comment about both points? Do you think the trail might be improved/made safer by next year?
Thanks SO MUCH!
Aug 30, 2007 12:53PM
Yes, we planned on hiking the whole thing [22 miles] in one day. However, a few of them are changing thier mind now. Is it possible to do the hike in one day? A few years back my buddy and I hiked Mt. Whitney from 12,000ft to the summit and back down to 8,000ft in one day with 55lb backpacks on [about 15 miles]. I just wanted to know if we had a chance or not to do it. Thanks!
Aug 30, 2007 5:09PM
i will be in Kauai from sept 12-21 and wanted to hike to and camp at Kalalau. is there a set limit of camping permits that are issued per day? if so, what do you think my chances are of getting one now? thanks in advance for any info.
Aug 30, 2007 5:17PM
Last year we did the ridgeline hike on Oahu. If I can do that, then surely I can complete the Kalalau trail? We are hoping some friends will agree to drop us off early and then pick us up at the end of the day. I am most concerned about the steep parts, but was encouraged by the comments "I never feared for my life." Do lots of folks do the 11 mi in one day? At Christmas?
Aug 30, 2007 5:43PM
i just left a comment regarding camping permits for kalalau but meant to inquire about Hanakoa. thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 31, 2007 8:43AM
Aloha - I have hiked the trail many times over the last 20 years and the trail has ALWAYS been narrow in some spots (not just recently). That said I have never heard of anyone falling off of the trail. Each hiker is different. If you are afraid of heights that section will be scary. I have never felt unsafe on the trail.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 31, 2007 8:44AM
Hello again Brad - not many do the trail both ways but if you are in shape, pack light and hydrate it is very doable (and a great accomplishment). See you on the trail!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 31, 2007 8:46AM
The State of Hawaii Dept. of Land and Natural Resources issues permits from their office in Lihue, Kauai. They are not easy to deal with but you have no other choice.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 31, 2007 8:59AM
Lots of people do the 11 miles and then camp. If you are going to hike the entire trail you either have to turn around and hike out (22 miles round trip), camp or get picked up.
Sep 02, 2007 3:20PM
Great website - thank you!
I was wonderign how steep the ledges are and whether bringing a 65L back pack is going to be at all a danger on the trail because of ledges or rivers or else?
Many thanks and best,
Rudy
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 02, 2007 4:11PM
Rudy - tough question. A properly loaded 65Lb. pack with a strong hiker is no problem - at the same time it could deter from the experience. I hike the trail frequently and see many hikers that look like they went to REI and brought WAY too much stuff. Light footwear, light tent, comfy pad and minimal clothes are best. The nice thing about Kalalau is that the elements are friendly. I highly recommend shedding extra gear for this trip (food excluded of course!).
pat
Sep 03, 2007 12:54AM
Hi, this is Patrick Sexton. I am wondering if we know eachother. I lived in Kalalau for awhile. I am going back soon and plan to devote some time to the trail restoration I keep hearing about.
I am in website promotion now, and I am pretty good at it. Your website looks great, offers great information, and it is cool as hell that you respond as well as you do to the comments here.
It is an impressive resource.
To see if you know me go to the about page of my website, there is a photo there of me. I used to work everywhere in Hanalei.
I am writing a bit about about Kalalau and will link to you and this page.
Let me know if we know eachother.
My question to you is, what is going on with any trail repair this winter?
tim
Sep 05, 2007 7:54AM
Hey, where can I get a good topo map of the area? Also, should I try for the permit now or wait until I get there? Thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 05, 2007 8:52PM
The Google Maps are amazingly accurate now and we do recommend getting permits prior to arriving on Kauai.
Sep 07, 2007 3:45PM
Thanks for the really good details regarding the trail. My 21 year old son wants to hike this trail in December and take younger siblings and cousins -and maybe me. I feel a little relieved as I was imagining one wrong step and the result-sliding down a cliff. I can see that there are plenty of things to be cautious about.
Sep 10, 2007 2:29PM
Hello, a friend and I are planning on doing the 22 mile roundtrip in one day in less than two weeks. We are strong hikers and are not too concerned about the distance or the difficulty, but is a permit required if we are not going to camp, and is it too late to obtain one? Thank you for your response and your great site!
Sep 10, 2007 4:52PM
A question for you - I like to use trekking poles to save wear and tear on my already bad knee. Can you use them at all on the Kalalau trail or should I just leave them at home?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 10, 2007 5:07PM
JD - if you like trekking poles and they are part of our normal hiking setup then definitely bring them. WW
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 10, 2007 5:09PM
Official response - YES a permit is required. Try to get one from the State of Hawaii DLNR in Lihue.
Sep 11, 2007 8:25AM
I plan on hiking the trail in mid-december....what should I guesstimate trail and weather wise? Also, do I obtain my camping pass and any other permits before my trip or when I get there??
Sep 11, 2007 8:52AM
Dear all,
I am going to Kauai tomorrow and plan to visit Kalalau valley during the 13th-17th of September. Does anyone know if there is a boat that can take me and my boyfriend in or out or both ways so we wouldn\'t have to hike. I have a back problem but I am dying to go there.
Thank you very much.
Marianna
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 13, 2007 8:14AM
Bradley - December is generally a great time to hike Kalalau. Of course there is always a chance of rain and / or frontal passage but the temperatures will be pleasant. Best to contact the State of Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources (808-274-3444) and arrange permits prior to arriving.
Sep 13, 2007 12:58PM
Thanks to all Kauai Explorer Staff for the informative site! We plan on hiking the 11 miles during our visit in late October. We'd love to make it an over-nighter on the beach. Do you recommend hiking back out the following day or chartering a zodiac for the return trip (or even if this is possible)? We'll make sure to pick up the appropriate permit from the DNLR. Yabba Dabba Doo - can't wait!!
Sep 13, 2007 12:59PM
Sorry, I didn't read ahead...and I found my answer. No need to post previous message. Thanks!
Sep 13, 2007 5:35PM
I take great interest in the comments about hiking the entire trail in one day. That is the entire 22 miles. unless you are in tremendous hiking shape it will be extrmely difficult. You also will not enjoy the beauty of the hike and what it has to offer because you will be concerned about getting out before dark. I have been up as far as hanoka valley and back in one day(took 8 hours).Hiking in Nov/ Dec. is rainy more then other months. Keith
Sep 16, 2007 10:28AM
Hi, this site is great! We will be camping at Kalalau beach in late October, do you recommend a sleeping bag or just some clothes and a blanket? I noticed temps at night will be around 68 to 75 degrees F.
Thanks in advance!
Scott
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 16, 2007 6:15PM
In the past I packed a sleeping bag (45 degree rating) and ended up sleeping on top of it. Now I bring the ultralight tent, sleeping pad, small pillow / stuffsack and perhaps a top. Usually it ends up being quite hot / humid in the tent. If you sleep under the stars you will feel the cool night air dropping down from Kokee. Packing light sure is nice on the trail. W
Sep 18, 2007 5:04AM
hi
first of all, I want to let you know that this is THE GREAT site! A lot of useful information - the best resourse on Kauai I've ever seen.
I have couple question:
1. My wife and I (and maybe couple other friends) are going to hit Kalalau trail and spend 5 nights at the beach. We are planning to do this in February-March, so I wondering if this is a good time to do that, in terms of weather / "crowds"?
2. I saw some pictures and videos of those very narrow places that are dangerous around mile 7 (as far as I remember). Could you please tell me what's the condition of this part of the trail at the moment (and are they going to make it more safe?) and how many feet/meters does this dangerous part last?
Thank you for your response in advance.
Alexander.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 18, 2007 7:34AM
Aloha Alexander - glad you like the site.
1. February - March can be very nice and uncrowded. The temps will be warm but you may get some rain. Best I can say is that time of year experiences very changeable weather. One day beautiful followed by a frontal passage the next. Bring a good tent.
2. Yes, the trail IS narrow in some places but it has been that way since I was a kid. I have never heard of anyone falling off the trail. I hiked it with my then 7 year old daughter without a problem. Everyone is different in terms of comfort level. I doubt the trail will be improved much. The narrow stretches are very short.
As an option, there is great tent / bunk camping at the YMCA camp in Haena for $15 / night. In summer the camp is booked but Sept. - April space available tenting is quiet and safe (unlike the beach park).
Sep 18, 2007 9:49AM
Thank you very much for such a fast response. Great service!
One other question: it is very possible that I will make it only with my wife, so it will be only two persons. I was wondering if it is safe there at Kalalau beach, are people friendly there? Is it ok to leave the tent with some not so valuable stuff and hike into the valley, etc.?
Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 18, 2007 10:58AM
Hello again Alexander. Most everyone at Kalalau is cool but there is the occasional kook that brings bad energy and / or thieving (isn't it like that everywhere?). I have left my tent unattended many times without issues. W
Sep 18, 2007 9:09PM
Hi there I have been planning a trip to Kauai for the middle of Oct. I am extremely interested in all the hiking and camping available. Concerned though since I am a female traveling on my own. As well i would like to leave in a months time and do not have any permits yet. Is it likely once i am there I will meet others to hike with and what is my best option regarding permits? Thanks a million!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 19, 2007 8:04AM
Hello Jayde - I would not recommend hiking alone. Almost everyone you encounter will be cool but there are also instances of creeps. You can also tent or bunk at the YMCA in Haena for $15 / night. It is much quieter than the County / State parks and centrally located near some of the most beautiful places in all of Hawaii.
Permitting is done through the State DLNR - you'll have to contact them for logistics. Have fun and be safe!
Sep 20, 2007 5:53AM
Hi. What a fantastic website!
We (8 trail marathon women runners) were planning to do the 11 mile
one way by having a boat drop us off at the end and hike back (next week -Sept. 29) After reading all the comments, it seems like this may not be an option because the boat couldn\'t get close enough this time of year. I also tried calling the number you gave above for getting a permit and just received an answering machine with limited instructions on sending in for one (which at this late date, won\'t work). Can we plan to go into the office next Friday and get the permit that day? If not, what are the penalties/fines? We will not be camping but are also considering doing the entire 22 miles in one day. What time will we need to leave to allow enough daylight to get out. Also, we\'ve never used water purifiers...are tablets o.k.? What about headlamps? Any cell service out there? Thanks so much for your insight.
Sep 23, 2007 10:42AM
my husband and i are planning a trip and we'd like to take 3 days, 2 nights to hike and enjoy the trails. what should we prepare for food-wise? is it reasonable to plan to hike to the falls one day and then the kalalau trail the second day, returning on the third day? we're fit, healthy and eager to explore.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 24, 2007 7:57AM
Hello Jessica - I recommend hiking ALL the way to Kalalau on the first day and staying there as long as your trip allows. There is an abundance of great exploring at Kalalau (and much better camping).
As far as food - everyone is different. Bring a water Tx system. W
Sep 26, 2007 7:53AM
I am so glad I found this site! I am a little confused about the logistics of the permits.
If we plan to hike all the way to Kalalau in one day, camp there a couple days and return in one day, do we only need a permit for that park?
If we decide to stop and camp on our way back in Hanakapi'ai or Hanakoa, do we need a separate permit?
Also, is it true that we will not be able to swim in the ocean? Snorkel?
Thanks!
Sep 26, 2007 10:30AM
First of all, great site and the comment section is actually very helpful!
Do you happen to know how many permits are issued for any given 5 night period? We have received our permits for early October and are just curious as to how many people to expect on the trail. (Hopefully not many but I know its a popular one!)
Also, I heard that Hanakapi'ai was technically closed to camping recently. Do you know if that is still true?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 26, 2007 10:50AM
Hello Bobbie - the permit logistics are confusing. I just went to the State DLNR Parks Website and there is an application form with some tough-to-follow instructions. I highly suggest trying to get permits BEFORE you arrive. Permits are required for any camping on the Na Pali and / or if you hike past Hanakapai. The permits issued by the State DLNR will designate the camping area and dates you have reserved.
For swimming in the ocean it can get very rough with powerful currents and no help for miles - deadly rough. High surf season begins in Sept. and tapers off in May (but it can be rough any time of year). Kalalau is experienced surfers / ocean experts. Sure it may be calm - but do you know how to recognize RIPS and changing conditions?
Offshore at Kalalau is all sand-bottom. Snorkeling is usually done around reefs because that is where all the fish hang out. Bringing snorkel gear to Kalalau is great if you want to make your pack heavier. Have fun - W.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 26, 2007 10:56AM
Thanks Laura - I do not know how many permits are issued.
I was at Hanakapiai yesterday and saw a number of people camping so the area appears to be open. I do NOT recommend camping at Hanakapiai. The campsites are overgrown and damp, facilities are terrible, the mosquitoes ride Harleys and most of all you have barely put a dent in the overall hike (2 miles out of 11). Kalalau is superior camping and you should make every effort to get there in 1 day. W
Sep 28, 2007 4:04AM
This is an absolutely wonderful site. I hiked Kalalau with a friend in the 70's. The most unbelievable hike imaginable. We lived off the land with the hippies and vietnam vets for 2 weeks in Kalalau.
Today, as a father, I would love to take my daughter (8 yrs old) and wife. Are there guided hikes? We plan on going in December.
Thank-you in advance for your response and great website.
Rob
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 28, 2007 7:54AM
Kalalau is amazing Robert - I do not know of any guided hikes but am happy to give advice to help your hike. We live close to the trailhead in Haena and I hike with my own daughter regularly. Please contact us through the feedback form if you wish to ask questions via email. Have fun.
Oct 04, 2007 1:11PM
Hello, I have a question regarding water purification. The Leptospirosis Information Center claims typical filtration systems don't work aginst it. They claim only boiling or iodine will treat infected water. What is your recommendation for treating water on the Kalalau?
Also, is this trail listed on any of the parks/recreation layers in Google Earth? I cannot find it.
Thanks and Aloha,
Troy
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 05, 2007 8:15AM
Hey Troy - I'm not going to go out on a limb in terms of Lepto. I have seen people sick from it - brutal. For water I know people that drink straight from streams (selectively) and I have always used a Katadyn filter.
I do not know of a Google Earth layer for Kalalau trail but we did take the GPS on the hike recently and plan to use that data for a map. W
Oct 06, 2007 12:19PM
Hi. This site is really great. At the last minute we decided to go to Kauai so we haven't done much planning and we will be leaving in 2 weeks. where do we get these trail permits? Can we buy them from Kauai or do we have to buy them in advance and from where? The sate park's website was not very helpful. I am concerned that we wouldn't have enough time to wait for them in the mail. Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 06, 2007 4:49PM
Lola - plan on going to the State of Hawaii Dept. of Land and Natural Resources in Lihue during regular business hours on a weekday. You are right about the official site - with your short timeline I would not rely on a government agency to process your permits. You can also try calling the Lihue office.
Oct 10, 2007 6:18AM
Fantastic site!
I too am planning a one-day trip to do the entire 22 mile trip. Unfortunately that's all I have time for, otherwise, I'd stretch it out a bit. Just last month I climbed the 22 mile, 6200 feet up and down Whitney in 13 hours including lengthy breaks. The distance doesn't worry me as much as the river crossings and of course the 6.5 to 8 mile stretches. Can you talk about the river crossings -- number of crossings, how deep they get etc.
Thanks alot
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 10, 2007 7:07AM
Right on Aaron! The river crossings are minor most of the time; not much water flow and shallow. Just be alert in times of heavy rain. If you see the waterfalls getting big and the water turning brown then these normally small streams can become dangerous and powerful.
As for the narrow stretches around 6.5 miles to 8, the only real danger is if these were to become wet and slippery. When the trail is dry there is no problem crossing these areas. The trail has been this way since I was a kid and I do not know of anyone falling off. W
Oct 11, 2007 6:18AM
Thanks W.
Also, any idea where to get a good map of the trail. I'm particularly looking for an elevation profile. The map the parks service provides is photocopied and blurry and hard to read. I don't plan on getting lost or heading off trail, just curious what I have to look forward to on the ups and downs.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 11, 2007 10:03AM
Hello again Aaron - I do not know where to get topo maps but I can tell you that you have many ups and downs to look forward to. W
Oct 14, 2007 6:11PM
Hi! You're site it fabulous! My boyfriend and I are planning to hike the trail at the end of October and have a couple of questions. Do you know of a place near the trailhead where we can store extra gear for a couple of days? we'll be in Hawaii for a few weeks, but don't want to bring much gear on the trail. Also, is there a bus that travels from Hanalei to the trailhead and back? I've been researching Kauai bus options, and the only schedule that I have found doesn't go farther than Hanalei. Thanks in advance for your help!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 15, 2007 12:07PM
Thanks Sarah - there is no gear storage near the trailhead. You can park a car or camp at YMCA camp Naue in Haena ($5 / night for parking, $15 for camping). Perhaps you can leave gear there or leave it in a car. The bus will get you to Hanalei and it is usually easy to get a ride out to Haena. The YMCA is a good place to camp before you hike because it is much quieter and cleaner than the County park at Haena. W
Oct 15, 2007 4:29PM
thanks for the response on Lepto, but if you're just using the Katadyn filter, I don't thin it protects you from it, but I'm not sure.
If you've mapped it in Google earth with a GPS, do you think you could email me the *.kmz file (if you have one).???
Much appreciated. You definitely spread the aloha. Can't wait to hike it over T-day.
Thanks,
Troy
Oct 18, 2007 4:47AM
I was just about to ask about parking when I read your recommendation for the YMCA campground. Is it legal to leave a car parked at the trailhead? What are the risks (break-ins or vandalism common)? We're planning to spend 2-3 nights on Kalalau Beach in December -- but don't want to bring all our street/airplane clothes on the trail with us.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 18, 2007 6:26AM
Jenn - leaving a car at Ke?e beach is legal but I have seen many cars with broken windshields. At night Kee is practically deserted, making it a perfect place for theiving. Either don't leave anything valuable in the car or park at Haena Beach park or the YMCA (for $5).
Oct 20, 2007 2:36PM
Awesome site. Very helpful! Thank you!
I will be spending 4 days (over Thanksgiving) in Kalalau, and am trying to learn as much as I can about that area during that time of the year. Things like usual trail conditions, stream crossings, weather, temperature at day/night, number of people on the trail and in Kalalau, etc.
This will help me greatly on packing my camping gear. Right now I am considering taking my backpacking summer tent, sleeping pad and a blanket style lightweight sleeping sack. Would that do fine at night? I am also debating between bringing my regular backpacking boot
s or lightweight hiking shoes
. Any recommendations?
Another thing is that I will be doing it by myself. I am experienced with hiking and backpacking, as well as rock climbing (thought of mentioning that just because I heard that the trail is very exposed at times), but I have never been to the Kalalau trail, so if there is anything I should be concerned about, it would be great to know now before I am out there in the wild...
Thanks again for all the help!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 20, 2007 5:43PM
Carlos - sounds like you are on track in terms of gear. Pack light. It might get wet, but not that cold. I prefer lightweight shoes over heavy hikers. The primary dangers on Na Pali are powerful ocean conditions, flooding streams and loose rock (rock climbing is not recommended in Hawaii because the rock is very unstable). Also recommend letting someone know about your estimated return time.
Oct 21, 2007 2:36PM
My husband and I will be in Kauai Dec. 2007. We are wondering if it is possible to begin by hiking the Kalalau trail and then continue inland end up at Kokee. If this is possible, do you have recommendations for camping sites along the way? Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 22, 2007 6:51AM
Nicole - Kalalau to Kokee has been done in the past, there even was a Hawaiian trail. People have also lost their lives trying to hike up the 3000'+ back wall of the valley. No trail, lava rock and cliffs are not a good combo. W
Oct 28, 2007 12:38PM
This is a really great site. We are planning on liking the Kalalau Trail when we visit Kauai over Thanksgiving. On the DLNR website I didn't see the day use permits. Do I need a day use permit for this trail? Is there a way to be dropped off at the beach and then hike the 11 miles out? Also what other trail do you recommend if I only have time for one more hike besides the Kalalau Trail?
Thanks for the information.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 29, 2007 8:44AM
Cynthia - day use permits are required for any hiking past Hanakapiai but I personally have never obtained one (only when I plan on camping). There are ways to get dropped off but they are not legal companies and some of the boats I have seen out there are questionable in terms of safety. November is probably going to be rough on the ocean. Alternatively you could hike to Hanakoa falls (Hanakoa is 6 miles in and the falls is about 3/4 miles up from the stream crossing). A solid day hike.
I also recommend hiking in Kokee - my favorites are the Alakai Swamp trail and Awaawapuhi. Have fun! W
Colton Gardner
Oct 31, 2007 11:09AM
This is the best place on Earth. This 11 mile hike is one of the greatest hikes I have ever done in my life. With all the beautiful views, I would recommend this to any backpacker. Even if you're not an avid backpacker, you can still get a glimpse of it by hiking in two miles to the Hanakapiai Beach and hiking to the waterfall, but no going past this point without a permit! This is a must-do trip when you have at least 3 days to spend on the trail. Don't forget your camera! I found tons of information about the trail at www.outdoorhighadventure.com! Thanks!
Nov 03, 2007 8:43PM
Just did Kalalau Trail as a day hike two days ago. Hope this info helps someone...
The permitting process has a new wrinkle: in order to go past Hanakoa you now need a camping permit ($10). The day hike permit gets you past Hanakapiai, but no further than Hanakoa. Being the beginning of November, I had no problem getting a walk-up permit at the State Parks office in Likue, but note that they close at 3:30 pm (I got there at 3:15!!).
The trail is quite muddy near the beginning and can be very rock-strewn in places. And hilly, and narrow, and overgrown, and...
But the views are incredible, which makes it all worthwhile.
I started at 6:15 am with a headlamp, taking 4.5 hours to Kalalau Beach. The return took 4 hours. Some route-finding is required near stream crossings and a few other places, but most of the challenge comes from the conditions, exposure, and hills. Oh yeah, did I mention that its hot and humid? You\'ll need plenty to drink.
Rain is your big enemy, as this trail can go from passably muddy to impossibly slippery. And it can rain any day, any time. I\'ve never been a big fan of trekking poles, but they are now on my shopping list.
For reference, I thought this hike was harder than my Grand Canyon rim-to-rim I did a month ago (7.25 hours, 24 miles).
For a warm-up two days earlier, I went to Kokee and did the Nualolo/Cliff Trail/Awaawapuhi loop, with legs for the vista points. Awesome!
--Andy
Nov 11, 2007 4:35PM
Hi, thanks for posting all this useful information. Perhaps it would help to compact them to a smaller version... A lot of them are being repeated.
I was curios if there is a taxi service or somebody you could hire in Hanalei to get a ride from the bus stop to YMCA... Also which other BACKPACKING trips would you recommend on Kauai?? Thanks for your dedication to this website.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 12, 2007 8:04AM
Hi Petr - in 2008 we are planning a major upgrade to the commenting and content management components of this website. We will be adding a bunch of new content as well.
There is no bus service from Hanalei to Haena (where the YMCA is located). You can either take a taxi or hitchhike. Also keep in mind that the YMCA camp is NOT always open for camping. Sometimes groups have the camp reserved - esp. during the months of May-Sept.
My other recommended backpacking trip is to take Kukui trail down into Waimea canyon. Tough hike but amazing.
Nov 12, 2007 8:13AM
Most informative site/board I've seen so far. A few questions:
1) When descriptions say that this trail is for "experienced" hikers, does this just refer to being in good physical shape or is there actual technical hiking knowledge/experience I need? I'm in very good athletic condition but have limited hiking experience.
2) I'm planning to go around Nov. 19-22. What are the chances of it being rainy and how dangerous would that be for a non-experienced hiker.
3) What are the chances of getting a camping permit with only a week until my trip?
Thanks!
Jeff
Nov 12, 2007 8:25AM
what are the conditions on the trail like? it sounds like 6.5-8 can be dangerous. we're thinking about doing an overnight trip to the beach but don't want to get turned around.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 12, 2007 3:53PM
Jeff - there are quite a few posts describing the trail conditions. For some the ledges and cliffs are very intimidating, but if you hike and are not afraid of heights it is very doable. Have fun.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 12, 2007 3:57PM
Thanks Lonny
1) Experienced in this context means physically strenuous and possibly very slippery. We are not talking about crampons and ropes.
2) November weather is usually quite nice - lately has been beautiful and we have been hiking a lot. On Kauai, however, you must always be ready for rain and changing conditions.
3) For permits, unfortunately you will have to work with the State of Hawaii Dept. of Land and Natural Resources (my experience it that they are not exactly service oriented!).
Nov 13, 2007 8:13AM
Just wanted to report back. I just got back from Kauai. Finished the out and back in just over 12 hours, including an hour nap in at Kalalau beach. Overall, I couldn't have asked for more perfect conditions which certainly contributed to me finishing in a relatively quick pace.
River crossings were not at all high, the 6.5 - 8 mile cliffs of insanity were actually not at a problem at all. Looks like they had been recently shoveled a bit. There was only a bit of mud in the first 2 mile stretch but other than that, it never rained on me.
I heard from lots of people and websites that you couldn't do it in one day, but I think if things go well, and you've trained (I did) for the hike, then it is not at all impossible to get it done.
That said, for all of you contemplating doing it in one day, I think it is very possible, but you should be prepared to turn around if you're not hitting your times for the various milestones or if the weather/trail isn't behaving.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 13, 2007 8:17AM
Well done Aaron! This month has been super dry so you got great conditions.
Nov 14, 2007 8:03PM
Do any of you know if this is a good trail for the end of dec.? Whats the weather like? I have not applied for a permit yet, do you think it'll be easy to get one? Thanks.
Nov 15, 2007 2:27PM
Fantastic work-from surfing to hiking you all got it down-thanks so much. I\'m gonna slam you with a brick of questions so hold on.
My fiance and I will be heading to Kaua\'i come the beginning of January and staying in Hanalei. First, I realize it will be seasonally wet, is it even encouraged to hike the Na Pali coast at this time? Or am I just look\'n for a good ol\' drench\'n?
Second, I\'ve read that obtaining permits can be difficult, beyond disorganization, but rather do to capacity. Is there a quota and is Jan popular on the trail?
Third, when we land in Lihue, where can we find a gear shop for stove fuel?
Fourth, Is the Na Pali coast through hiked? And if so where do folks exit (if coming from Kee)?
Next, most of the postings/info I read note entering from hwy 56. Is it possible to enter the Na Poli coast from hwy 550 (Kokee SP) and through hike out to Kee Beach Park and hitch into Hanalei? Or from 50 (Polihale SP)for that matter?
Lastly, whats the island hitch hiking like in general? Legal, easy, safe??
I realize lots-o-questions. Thanks for your resourcefulness.
D
ps. I\'m open to additional responses from insightful travelers. Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 16, 2007 2:42PM
Caldwell - December is usually better than Jan-March BUT remember that we are islands in the middle of a giant ocean. Anything can happen.
Permits have already been addressed in this forum. NO it is not easy to get them and YES the State is really mis-managing this park.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 16, 2007 2:53PM
HI Dan - thanks for the comments and questions.
YES - I highly encourage you to hike Na Pali. Even if it is muddy and rainy the experience will stay with you forever. It can be beautiful or rainy ANY time of year (but not cold).
PERMITTING - Winter is quieter than Summer. Do not let permitting issues deter you from experiencing some of Hawaii's most awesome wilderness. Well it's semi-wild because a very few - not all - helicopter companies fly low and disturb the peace. Make your best effort to get permits, but if the system fails you then consider going anyway.
FUEL AND GEAR: at Kayak Hanalei or Peddle and Paddle (both in Hanalei town).
NO THOUGH HIKES: Yes it has been done (from Kokee, not Polihale) but a number of people have been killed hiking in this loose Hawaiian lava rock. I hiked some gnarly stuff during my 20's and must have been nuts. Rocky mountain granite holds a piton nicely, lava-rock does not. I'm definitely NOT going to advise it in this forum.
HITCHHIKING is legal and as "safe" as it anywhere. W
Nov 17, 2007 11:06PM
I am planning to do Na Pali as an over night in May '08. I am traveling alone and would like to meet up with other hikers. Can you recommend somewhere that I might meet people to hike with? thx!
Nov 18, 2007 6:50AM
In mid-December, my friends and I are planning to hike the Kalalau trail. This will be our first time...is there any way of meeting up with a group of people and making the hike? Do they do group hikes?
Also, what type of filtering/purification system would you recommend? And is it safe to camp on Kalalau beach during the winter? I've read about the high and strong tides as well as tsunamis?!
Thanks,
Lisa
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 18, 2007 7:47AM
Hi Hannah - I am not aware of any place to meet other hikers. I do not recommend hiking alone down Na Pali.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 18, 2007 7:57AM
Hi Lisa - there are no organized group hikes or guides. For purification I personally use a Katadyn or MSR filter and choose my source carefully (small streams). In winter you are best off camping in the areas above the beach. If a tsunami comes then you would need to go MUCH higher (Civil Defense would probably fly over by plane to issue a warning).
Nov 18, 2007 8:06AM
I finally found the website that answers all my questions after looking for weeks through all those useless sites. This site should pop up on Google among top three on search for Hawaii.
Thank you very much.
Nov 19, 2007 3:34PM
Thanks W for your last response, very helpful!
Failed to inquire about this YMCA outside of Hanalei. I have been reading about the potential to store stuff there while on the Na Pali coast. Can anyone elaborate? Are there lockers? Is it secure? Does it cost? Any folks out there use the Y as a storage resource?
Much appreciated! Again, you all rock it!
D
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 21, 2007 7:42AM
Dan - there is no storage setup at the Y-Camp.
Nov 22, 2007 8:38AM
Thanks for your answer. One more thing poped up my mind. I wasn't sure if we should rent a car but now I think we might just to be more flexible and to be able o keep our extra gear in it since there are no lockers. Do you think it is better to get a SUV or you can do mostly without it?? I will be there 11/24-12/10 THX
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 23, 2007 7:42AM
Peter - there is very little reason to rent an SUV on Kauai. As with most SUV's - they are more for style than actual off road use. W
Nov 28, 2007 5:20AM
We walked it in one day (11mi) 2 years ago. Conditions were dry, thankfully.
The last few miles were virtually impassible due to erosion and damage from the feral goats. Even rangers don't hike past the 6 mile mark. It should be closed to the public in these treacherous areas---certain death should you slip. We passed people who turned back in tears from shear terror. The beach was great at the end, but the hike out loomed and terrifed me. My husband blew out a Teva and almost went over on a goat-path portion of the trail. I gave him my sandal and did the last 3 or so miles barefoot, as my feet are tough. We finished the hike by moonlight at night. Passed out on the beach--so much for all the camping gear!
Think twice before risking the entire trail---you will see your life pass before your eyes! (PS: we were 46 and 57 at the time--and in excellent shape)
Stephen
Nov 28, 2007 12:16PM
My son and I would like to backpack all the way to Kalalau. How are the conditions and should I get a pass ahead of time or just wait until I get it there. We would be hiking in on Dec 11th. Thanks Stephen
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 28, 2007 9:27PM
Steven - Kalalau is a tough hike but it is also amazing and very rewardig. Everyone is different in terms of athletic ability and comfort in steep terrain (see a few earlier posts that make this hike seem terrible). Get your permits in advance if possible.
Stephen
Dec 01, 2007 10:00PM
There's so much rain right now. Is Kalalau even possible to hike? Do you know any one who has been up there recently? Would you happen to have the phone number for the ranger station? Thanks, Stephen
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 01, 2007 10:46PM
Steven - there is no ranger station for the Na Pali Coast State Park. There is, however, a number for the State DLNR office in Lihue: (808) 274-3444.
Dec 05, 2007 7:17AM
Hey there! I must say, this website has been so helpful! My hubby and I will be doing the entire hike in late June/early July. We have a permit for four nights, so we can really take our time and enjoy everything. It may have been posted, but what to do about poo? I usually don't do the deed on long hikes, but just in case... I want to be prepared. Someone said that you should bring a container to haul it out. What is required for the state? Thanks everyone!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 05, 2007 11:14AM
Miranda - thanks for being so conscientious! Don't know what the State's official policy is on this.
Dec 06, 2007 5:44AM
Another question: We are backpacking all the way and will not be renting a car (on this island anyway). Anyone know of a service that can pick us up to the airport and drop us off at the trail head, and maybe an estimated cost? Someone referred Bran's taxi service and said they were good. Also, I guess we need to tell them a estimated time to pick us up. What about hitchhiking? Someone else told me that's the only way they've traveled on Kauai. I guess with anywhere you hitchhike there's a risk.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 06, 2007 6:35AM
Miranda - there is County bus service to Hanalei. Don't know what the taxi will cost.
Dec 06, 2007 8:17PM
I'm travelling to Hawaii by myself late January. I want to walk the full length of the Kalalau Trail. Do you have a guide service or can you recommend a guide?
Dec 06, 2007 8:29PM
Regarding the last question about getting to the trailhead... I just did the trail over Thanksgiving and the way I did it was by catching the Lihue-Hanaley public bus ($1.50) to Hanaley and hitchhiking from there to the trail head. Getting a lift in Hanaley was super easy and took me literally less than 30 seconds, since almost everyone driving by Hanaley going west is heading to the trailhead area. Same happened to the ride back to Hanaley from the trailhead. In Hanaley was also where I bought a fuel canister for my stove at Kayak Kauai.
The trail was in great shape, with just a couple of scatchy spots near mile 7 where the trail is narrow and exposed. The streams were really low. The surf was super high, making it loud at night (don't recommend camping at the beach in Kalalau, but instead at the spots just above it). If you need to camp near the trailhead to start early next day I suggest the Haena Beack Park, which is 1 mile from the trailhead.
The week after Thanksgiving it rained like crazy in Kauai, so I am not sure if that changed the trail conditions very much, but when I went everything was dry and perfect.
Happy hiking!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 07, 2007 7:20AM
Michelle - I do not know of any guide service.
Dec 07, 2007 8:09AM
Carlos- About how long was the bus ride from Lihue to Hanalei?
I'm a bit worried, because we are supposed to camp the first night at the 6 mile marker. Our flight doesn't arrive until 1:47p. How strict are they with permits? For example, if we didn't feel we could make it the first night, could we just camp at the trailhead and get an early start?
Dec 07, 2007 6:14PM
Miranda - I caught the bus in Kapaa, across from the library, and it took me about 40 minutes to get to Hanalei. The bus runs every two hours, and I am not sure if it goes by the airport, so you might need a connection.
I doubt your plan to sleep at mile 6 would work. Hanakapiai at mile 2 is much better for you giving your schedule, and even that might be hard. Even though I read Hanakapiai was closed for camping there were tons of sites setup and Kalalau hikers camping there when I was there (I also camped there on my first night). That beach is also 100 times better for camping than the woods and mosquitoes at mile 6.
In case you get to the trailhead too late for mile 2, an option is the Kee beach at the trailhead, although I would just consider this option in case
of an emergency, since there was no fresh water or campsites there.
As for permits... while I was in Kalalau I talked to some hippies who live there about it. They said the rangers just patrol the trail once a month, and that they issue a $80 ticket when they find a violation. I would think they would let you pass if you had the permit, but were just off by a day.
Good luck!
Dec 14, 2007 6:33PM
We were planning on hiking the Kalalau Trail this coming week but I know its been raining pretty steadily for the past few weeks. Does anyone have any info on the trail condition and river crossings?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 14, 2007 6:49PM
Aloha Sean - replying to your post about the rain.
Recently we have had some strong fronts from the West and now persistent Trade wind showers. The hiking is gonna be wet but everyone reacts differently to that. Personally I get past the fact that my socks might get wet and just hike. It usually so warm that you don't even want to wear a rain-shell.
Prevailing Easterly Trade winds generate way more rain on the first few miles of Na Pali. After Hanakoa there is a drastic change in precipitation. Most of the year when you get to Kalalau it is very dry. The exception is during Winter months when fronts can come from a Westerly direction.
Pack light and get to Kalalau as soon as you can. If you are in reasonable shape this is very doable in 1 day.
UNFORTUNATELY - Kalalau is currently closed by the State of Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources. You should call them and ask why. They are known for their customer service.
Bart
Dec 15, 2007 8:29AM
We are planning to hike this trail in February (2 nights 3 days). I was wondering if anyone can compare the difficulty of Kalalau Trail to The West Coast Trail on Vancouver Island BC Canada. I realize the WCT is longer and a through hike but both are in mountainous rainforest and along beaches and headlands. Does the Kalalau Trail have ladders, slippery boardwalks, and are ropes required in certain sections? Are there surge channels on the Kalalau Trail? I've hiked the WCT twice and would appreciate a point of reference.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 15, 2007 10:58AM
Hello Bart - I have never hiked the WCT but can tell you that there are no ropes, ladders, boardwalks or surge channels. The hazards on Na Pali are loose / falling rock, slippery mud, powerful ocean and flash flooding streams. Have fun. W
Dec 16, 2007 1:54PM
I have had the pleasure of exploring the very beginning of the trail, and have planned a trip with my son for the summer of '08. Are there any communicaitons you can rely on? Is there any cell reception or maybe a handheld VHF in case of trouble?
Also, I prefer to use the Hennessey Hammock to sleep in. Would I be stepping on any toes or are you restricted to using preset pads for tents? Thanks for the site. D
Dec 17, 2007 6:14AM
Sean, or anyone else. Let us know what the Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources say if you happen to call. Happy Holidays everyone!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 18, 2007 7:29AM
Hello Dennis - radios do not work well down Na Pali because of the massive cliffs. The only communications I have had success with are those that are line-of-sight. There are plenty of boats and helicopters to flag down if something happens.
The camping area is loosely managed and you will not be breaking any rules by using a hammock. Have fun.
Dec 18, 2007 7:08PM
Anyone have any more info about Kalalau being closed? I've been planning this hike for the last year and will be on the trail and at the campgrounds next week...please tell me its open...
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 18, 2007 7:38PM
As far as I know it is OPEN.
Dec 19, 2007 8:04AM
For anyone reading this website and trying to decide on whether or not to make this hike, you will be missing the most beautiful scenery on the face of this earth if you do not do so. I have hiked to Hanakapi`ai on 3 separate visits and highly recommend it. If you can get past the very beginning 1/2 mile or so, the remaining 1 and 1/2 miles to Hanakapi`ai is easier. I am in my early 50s, in somewhat decent shape and made it to Hanakapi`ai and back in less than 4 hours with numerous Kodak moment stops.
Please don\'t miss the opportunity to experience the beauty of the Napoli Coast.
Dec 19, 2007 4:05PM
If I leave my car at the ymca camp naue, how far is it to the Kalalau trail head?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 20, 2007 7:41AM
Jessy - 2 miles from camp to Ke?e. W
Dec 22, 2007 3:42PM
Why are the so many reccomendations not to do his hike alone other than the natural hazards? Thx
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 23, 2007 8:31AM
Justin - truth is that there are mostly good people at Kalalau, but occasionally some creeps (kinda like everywhere else in the world). This is why we do not recommend that you go alone. Many people do go alone and are just fine. We have to take the role of advising caution in this forum.
Dec 23, 2007 9:04AM
Hi,
Thanks for the great site.
A couple of Q's:
1. We're planning to visit Kauai for 8 days in February. Is this the wrong (i.e. too wet/ streams too intense) time of year to attempt this hike?
2. Just how scary IS the miles 6.5 to 8 section? (We've done some intense hiking here in BC, but reading that the hike gets a 9/10 for difficulty from the Sierra Club AND my disinclination to slide to my death does give me some pause...)
Any info greatly apreciated.
Simon
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 23, 2007 2:09PM
Hello Simon - anyone who has lived in Hawaii for some time knows better to predict good or bad weather during a given month. During the Hawaii "winter" season rains can be heavier, but it also offers some of the best weather. Watch out for strong fronts arriving from the West and be prepared for wet weather.
The aspect of sliding to your death at sections of the Kalalau trail is relative. The administrator posts to this forum err towards safety and caution, however I have personally hiked the trail with my daughter and mom (both of whom I do not want to put in danger). For some people these sections are terrifying. For me personally I love the trail after Hanakoa because it opens up and affords great views. That is all I can give you. W
Dec 25, 2007 11:09PM
I was wondering what companies will drop you off at Kalalau? I wanted to be dropped off on the beach, camp, and then hike back. Also, are there showers at this beach or should I just rely on the ocean to get clean?
Dec 26, 2007 2:54AM
I keep reading that the the trail is extremely narrow between miles 6.5 and 8. Is the trail narrow the entire 1.5 miles or just certain sections of that 1.5 miles? If the trail is only narrow in certain sections between the 6.5 and 8 mile markers, what\'s the distance? I can maybe walk a death defying narrow trail for 20 or 30 feet but 1.5 miles - I don\'t think so.
Also, from the photos I\'ve seen, the trail looks like it\'s as narrow as 1 foot (30cm) along the edge of the cliffs? Is that an accurate measurement?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 26, 2007 12:28PM
Ken - make no mistake, the trail IS narrow but the very narrow areas are short. Think 10-20 feet not miles.
Dec 26, 2007 6:02PM
Is it safe to leave a rental car at the trailhead for 4 days? State Parks service recommends against it in its brochure.
What do you guys think?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 26, 2007 7:23PM
Akos - better to leave it at Haena Beach Park or Camp Naue. These are places where the public is present. W
Dec 28, 2007 9:22AM
Is anyone considering going on this hike during the week of January 20th -25th? I\'d love to meet up with other hikers going at the same time.
Michelle, I noticed you mentioned you were going in late January. Any chance that would be during the same week?
Dec 28, 2007 1:29PM
I hiked in after a lot of weather.(12/10-11) The trail was closed but I was not to be turned back. I am a very experienced hiker and glacier skier so I thought this would be a piece of cake. hahaha !!! You can only accomplish about a mile an hour and watch out for goat trails. Its easy to get lost..so think. The hike is medium...just long. If your a walk the dog around the block and think your a hiker, don't even think about this hike. Also if you are afraid of heights...I used a walking stick (Stick Tracy) to displace my weight. I lost about 10 pounds on the hike...I kept cinching in my buckles on my pants and pack. Check in with Mayor Ricky at MP 10 and PLEASE pack it in and pack it out. Most of the garbage that you will see is from the hikers not the hippies. The mile post come at you VERY SLOWLY. You might think you have hiked 3 miles but you have gone only one. I will be back..this time with my wife. Enjoy and be safe.
Dec 30, 2007 10:28AM
Just wanted to know if anyone has been in the past few days 25th-29th and what the weather and trail were like.
cheers
josh
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 30, 2007 10:48AM
Joshua - hiked Hanakapiai this AM and it was a sloppy as it gets. Still fun - just be ready for mud. Think pig wallow.
Dec 31, 2007 10:09AM
My sister and I will be hiking the trail next summer and have 5 day permits already acquired. We are interested in having a zodiac pick us up the last day on Kalalau beach as to not have to hike out. Has anyone done this? Are there are boating companies that can or would do this? Does the state allow it? thanks much.
Dec 31, 2007 1:12PM
My wife and I (both mid 30\'s and avid hikers) hiked in/out last Monday-Thursday (Dec 24-27) and I have to say the trail was super muddy and treacherous on our way out...it rained most of our hike out. The narrow cliff section that we\'ve all heard about was to me not the worst/most scary part of the hike...it was other areas that had been washed out due to rain that had some 6-12 inch trails. We also had a challenge crossing the final stream back (was up to my waist) due to the rain. The hike in wasn\'t too bad...good weather and beautiful views. I will concur that the miles do go by very slowly. All in all, I think if you are patient, leave yourself a bit more time that you think you\'ll need and take it one step at a time in certain secions, you\'ll be ok. I recommend a walking stick - helped alot (was my first time using one). Left our car at the trailhead (as did others we met) and luckily no breakins. Met other hikers and \"inhabitants\" and all very friendly and helpful. Took us 8.5 hrs on way in (one day) and 9hrs + 1.5hr on way out (over 2 days). From what I could tell...campsite at Hanokoa not worth staying at...lots of garbage around, bugs...if you have a choice, try to get to Kalalau. Also...we came across a number of people who hiked in one day and out the next - my advice (and I think W agrees) would be to give yourself at least a day to enjoy the surroundings once you get there...and rest your body. You owe it to yourself at such a beautiful place. Well I'm back home now but left with fond memories of a special place. Trying to address some of the things I wondered about before my trip. And if some of you are wondering...the toilets aren't that bad. Thanks to W on this site for such great info. Have fun!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 31, 2007 2:45PM
Thanks Matt - good info. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 31, 2007 2:47PM
Julie - please see other posts in this forum. There are no legal pickups, but there are some boats that take campers in and out of Kalalau.
Jan 01, 2008 9:33AM
My husband and I, and another couple, are planning on doing the hike in April, spending one night on the beach. We presently do not have a lot of hiking gear. I am interested in going light as possible. Do you think it would be a good idea to rent some equipment when we get there? This way we would also avoid hauling stuff on the airplane.
We have hiked several times to the falls and have always dreamed of doing the full hike. We do not normaly backpack or spend the night. Do you have any suggestions for some tasty food that is easy and light to pack? I\'m sure we\'ll be plenty hungry when we get there. Thanks for your advice!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 01, 2008 10:04AM
Hello Kathy - light is definitely best. I think you can rent gear from Kayak Hanalei, but do not know about the quality. Also I like to shop at Papaya's market in Hanalei, where you can get good dehydrated food that is easy to prepare and light. A water filter is recommended. No doubt that good meals are one of the true joys of hiking. W
Jan 04, 2008 12:33PM
I'm looking to hike in August. The websites to the DNLR are not functional nor is the voicemail. I got enough info to know to send a request with drivers license. Are there two permits involved? one for camping and one for hiking? or is it a single all inclusive permit.
I have hiked the Waipio to Wiamanu trail on the Big Island. How much more (or less) strenuous is the Kalalau trail?
Thanks... this is a very useful website.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 04, 2008 8:32PM
Aloha Brad - I feel your frustration with the DLNR. My recommendation is to do what you can to comply and then just go. Honestly they are pretty messed up.
Jan 05, 2008 6:20PM
Again, thank you for this effort. This is by far the most informative site I have found about Kauai. What is your best recommendation for getting day permits for the Kalalau Trail? Do you have to get them at the Lihue office? Will they mail them to the mainland? Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 06, 2008 7:00AM
Laur - you can try to contact the State DLNR but they are not very service oriented.
Jan 07, 2008 8:23AM
Great site - really informative.
Quick question about permits, I am going to try and get a permit for when I head there next month but from what I\'ve read here it seems I may have some problems. Are they really strict about this (ie do they turn people back?)
Also, does the DLNR give both camping AND hiking permits?
Thanks!
Jan 07, 2008 9:44AM
I am considering hiking the Kalalau trail in one day (22 miles or as many as I can given my time constraints). Approximately how long does the entire trail take (in and out) and do I need a permit for just the day hike? Also, do you know how far or how long it takes from the airport to the trailhead?
Jan 07, 2008 10:43AM
My wife and I are planning to hike in later this week and do not want to leave our rental car at the trail head. We already have a 5 day permit.
Is there a public transit service to the trail head? Or do you have any other suggestions on access to the trail head?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 07, 2008 3:42PM
Phil - you should try to obtain a permit and they can be strict (kinda depends on what you are doing down the coast). Do your best to work with the DLNR. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 07, 2008 3:46PM
Jennifer - the length of time it takes to do the round trip to Kalalau depends entirely on your ability / fitness. In my 20's my best time (one way) was 2:16. In and out is much tougher and I would say that anything under 8 hours is a great accomplishment.
Takes about 1 hour from airport to trailhead. Have fun.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 07, 2008 3:48PM
Hey David - you can leave your car at YMCA Camp Naue in Haena for $5/night. The parking there is safe for your valuables and it's only 2 miles from the trailhead. Easy to get a ride. W
Jan 08, 2008 8:10AM
We are looking to hike the trail in early February. Can you tell me what conditions on the trail will be like at this time? Also, two members of our party are afraid of heights, although they are experienced hikers. Can you tell me approximately how narrow the narrowest stretches of ledge are at miles 6.5 - 8, and how long these sections last? Also, is it a ledge walk for that entire portion of the trail?? Thanks for this great site!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 08, 2008 9:02AM
Hello Monica - some friends just came out of Kalalau yesterday and said that the trail is in good shape. This is largely thanks to the work of some volunteers (not the DLNR). The narrow sections are short - and more of a psychological barrier than a physical one. On these narrow sections the trail is actually 1-2 feet wide. One day soon I'm going to get down there and shoot some vids because the narrows are such a topic of concern.
My friends told me that a much greater concern was the amount of trash and lack of maintenance on the coast. People are living down there, coming in via boat, drinking a lot of alcohol, partying and the like. They are former guides that have hiked all over the world - and were very upset at the situation because Na Pali is so beautiful, yet in dire need of stewardship. Unfortunately the DLNR (the State agency charged with maintaining the park) is not working efficiently to preserve the resource. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 08, 2008 9:19AM
Hello Monica - some friends just came out of Kalalau yesterday and said that the trail is in good shape. This is largely thanks to the work of some volunteers (not the DLNR). The narrow sections are short - and more of a psychological barrier than a physical one. On these narrow sections the trail is actually 1-2 feet wide. One day soon I'm going to get down there and shoot some vids because the narrows are such a topic of concern.
My friends told me that a much greater concern was the amount of trash and lack of maintenance on the coast. People are living down there, coming in via boat, drinking a lot of alcohol, partying and the like. They are former guides that have hiked all over the world - and were very upset at the situation because Na Pali is so beautiful, yet in dire need of stewardship. Unfortunately the DLNR (the State agency charged with maintaining the park) is not working efficiently to preserve the resource. W
Jan 10, 2008 4:49AM
Aloha,
I will be on vacation in the first week of March 2008 on Kauai. I plan on hiking Kalaiau Trail to Hanakapi?ai Falls and back to Kee all in one day (8 miles in all). I plan on starting at the Kee trail head about 8am. My question is if I start my hike at 8am and hike to the Falls, spend about an hour at the Falls, then head back to the trail head what time of day can I expect to be back at Kee Beach? Should I plan anything else in my itinerary for this day? I am hoping to finish my hike round-trip about 1 or 2pm in the afternoon so I can crash for awhile at Kee or Tunnels beach before sunset.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 10, 2008 7:59AM
Aloha back to you Vince - sounds like a perfect day and I would NOT plan anything else. Leaving early will give you plenty of time for the hike; how soon you get back depends on how fast you hike. I have made the round trip in 2 hours but we were running. You will probably want to take 5-6 hours. W
John Heineman
Jan 11, 2008 3:51AM
I began my hike solo Christmas Day with the clear intention of making the trip the full eleven miles, camping under the stars, the hiking out the next day. I had read the article in Backpacker Magazine (October 07)listing Kalalau Beach as their number one choice for Americas Best Campsite. I sat many a night drinking a martini with my good friend talking of my plans. Setting out at 8:30am after a very rainy night, what I encountered was beyond expectation. Fantastic views, kind people (the few I encountered), and great photo opportunities. I neophyte at best with full gear backpacking, mistake number one was overpacking. I carried close to forty pounds (all for on night), didn\'t bring poles, and often struggled maintaining balance in the slippery trail. I stopped too often, like a kid at Christmas, taking a multitude of pictures. long story short, seven hours into the hike, a had reached the first campsite in the valley (about 6.5 miles). It was three o\'clock by then and I had to abandon my dream of making it to the beach. It was a treacherous, exhausting, and yet beautiful failure. Time limited my ability to complete the journey, and I\'ll make sure that doesn\'t happen again. Yes, there will be an again! A few tips: Pack as light as possible, Get tablets or a filter (I carried a gallon jug), take poles in the rainy season, take organized breaks, and most of all, embrace the journey! Peace
Jan 12, 2008 2:55AM
A bit of home video has been posted on YouTube regarding the treacherous 6.5-8 mile stretch. I found it while researching as I'll be hiking this summer. Here is the link which will take you directly to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrSKoqm-HCw
I'm not sure exactly which mile this was at, but it at least gives a picture for us future hikers!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 12, 2008 7:25AM
That is mile 7 after Hanakoa.
Jan 13, 2008 6:48AM
Hi,
We are planning to hike the whole Kalalau trail in May. We would like to stay one night at the campsite and return next day. Can someone tell me where to get the application form and do I need to send the money with ? What is the best procedure to receive the permit as soon as possible ? Thanks for help....
Thomas.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 13, 2008 7:42AM
Hi Thomas - this info is on the site. Contact the DLNR.
Jan 13, 2008 2:00PM
I read that the Kalalalu trail is an 11 mile trail that begins at Ke`e Beach. If I am hiking the Hanakapiai trail will I get to Kalalalu trail. So then the hike is 15 miles one way? Can I start the Kalalalu trail somewhere without hiking Hanakapaiai? Where is the trailhead? Realistically, can a good hiker hike all 22 miles in one day? in April? I'd like to hike Hanakapia one day and Kalalalu the other. I hope these questions make sense. Thanks
Henry
Jan 13, 2008 4:30PM
Aloha:
I am planing to hike to Hanakapi?ai Falls during the last week in January. What do I need to know about the Falls trail. I read it is tough due to the water crossings, etc.
What can you tell me about it? Does it flood with every rain?
Thanks,
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 13, 2008 8:20PM
Lisa - Kalalau trail and the hike to Hanakapiai are one and the same. Please take time to read through the guides. The info you are seeking is all here. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 13, 2008 8:21PM
Henry - your questions are answered if you read through the posts and guides.
Jan 14, 2008 7:05AM
Hi there, been reading about the lack of water, but I assume there is reliable water at Kalalalu? I like to treat with chemicals, as they are so much lighter than a filter - any reason that wouldn't work? i.e. no stream deep enough to dip a bottle in.
Also, are there any funky hostels on the island worth checking out?
Thanks,
j.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 14, 2008 10:31AM
Hello Jo - Na Pali has a number of streams that work well as water sources. You'll need to treat the water, but there is no shortage (this is the Garden Island after all). W
Jan 14, 2008 1:22PM
Just a note to give a "at a boy" to the DLNR. Sent my application Jan. 04 (from Ohio) and just received my camping permit (Kalalau) today. They even called me for additional info they needed. They were really on the ball (maybe due to the slow season?). Anyway they did reallllllllll gooood!!! Will be on the trail Feb. 23...Need this trip to forget about the LSU butt kickin.
Jan 14, 2008 4:10PM
Thanks, W. Just to note, I followed the youtube a few posts up and there were several good clips about the hike and that show what the cliffs look like.
Jan 14, 2008 8:03PM
Great site! How many people are usually camped at Kalalau on an average night, and is it possible to find a tree limb in the woods to use for a walking stick?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 15, 2008 6:26AM
Thanks Jason - I think the State DLNR limits camping permits to 80 / night. People leave walking sticks at the Kee trailhead and there are lots of trees. Please be careful not to cut down endangered trees.
Jan 18, 2008 9:31AM
Just wanted to let folks know that I emailed the local DLNR for a permit and received a very friendly note back from Pearl in that office. I sent in the application with a check for the funds, and received the permit in about a week. No problem. I and my boyfriend are hiking the trail starting February 21.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 18, 2008 10:06AM
Right on DLNR!
Jan 20, 2008 11:54PM
My wife and I are hiking the Kalalau trail at the end of February, we have family that live on the island. Can we hike only one-way and be picked up at the end of our hike? Or do we have to hike both ways for a total of 22 miles? We hike at altitude in Colorado and 11 miles is very common to hike to summit a fourteener but the return trip is always not as enjoyable(been there, done that)!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 21, 2008 4:25PM
Hi Kingsofa - Kalalau is an in-and-out hike. There are no legal pickups at the other end of the trail. Some private entrepreneurs will take you there but we do not recommend that in this forum. February generally has large surf so that adds to the difficulty of landing a boat on the beach. This is all basically sea-level to 1200 foot hiking so it should not be as tough as Colorado.
Jan 21, 2008 7:31PM
I hiked this trail last weekend with my wife and a friend. Getting the permit was not an issue, just get it early. We camped Friday night at the state park and left our car there overnight without issue Saturday. The trail conditions were fine. The first three miles have a few muddy sections but nothing unmanageable. We made it to Kalalau Beach in 6 hours and made it back the following day in about 5 and a half. A couple tips that are mentioned on this site that I would like to reinforce are to start hiking early to avoid the heat and to pack as light as possible. My pack was just over 30 lbs. and my wife?s was 20 (and that included wine and scotch!). If you are from Colorado and an avid hiker (like me) you will have no problem with this trail.
Below are a few GPS waypoints I took along the way if anyone is interested. They are generally within 150 ft because I couldn?t always get a good signal at the exact point.
Ke?e Beach: N 22, 13.110 / W 159, 34.870
Hanakapiai(2 miles): N 22, 12.507 / W 159, 35.858
Hanakoa (6 miles): N 22, 11.450 / W 159, 37.180
Kalalau(11 miles): N 22, 10.510 / W 159, 39.280
Enjoy and thanks for all the great info on this site!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 21, 2008 8:44PM
Thanks for the comments and information, Nico. And you're right - the weight of your pack can make a huge difference on this trail. Travel light, start early. Enjoy.
Jan 23, 2008 3:53PM
Kathy-- and everyone else! If you are wanting to pack light, yet make yummy homemade meals on the trail, pick up Lipsmackin\' Backpackin\' cookbook. It helps if you have a dehydrator, but you can also use the oven. It\'s really great if you want to save yourself some money and make your own meals.
Jan 23, 2008 7:22PM
Does anyone know if there are lockers at the airport where one can leave a change of clothes? The last day of our hike we are just coming off the trail and going back to the airport to catch our flight home (to Seattle) and are wondering if we could leave a pair of jeans in a locker?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 24, 2008 5:58AM
Aloha Arden. No lockers at the airport.
Enjoy your hike!
Jan 24, 2008 4:24PM
I have found it quite difficult to get permit info from any of the park offices. We need a permit for hiking only (no camping)for the entire Kalalau Trail (Mar 08). What's the best way to get a permit - ahead of time, if possible??
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 24, 2008 8:15PM
Aloha Cindy. As you may know, permits are required for any hiking past Hanakapi?ia on the Na Pali Trail to Kalalau Valley. There are not separate permits for camping and hiking and permits issued for the trail are for camping at the trail's end at Kalalau. This 11 mile trail is very strenuous and one should prepare to spend the night at the end. Due to your feedback, I've updated the link on the Kalalau page to go to the State Parks updated website, where you'll see a link to download a PDF for your permit application. You can also call the office at (808) 587-0300 to get answers to your questions.
Good luck and enjoy the Na Pali! J
Jan 25, 2008 5:19PM
Okay, here's a question -- we need to stop somewhere between the airport and the trail head to buy fuel canisters for our little backpacking stove (one of those whisperlite things)since we can't carry them on the plane. Anyone know the best place to do this (we'll be hitchhiking).
Thanks!
Arden
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 26, 2008 5:42PM
Arden - I recommend taking the bus to Hanalei. There you can find backpacking supplies at Peddle and Paddle at Ching Young Center. From Hanalei the trailhead is 8 miles and fairly easy to hitchhike (depending on how presentable you are). W
Jan 29, 2008 9:59AM
I´ll be coming out in september and am considering the 11 mile hike and camping overnight. I´ll have problems bringing my camping gear for various reasons and was wondering if there is anywhere to rent camping gear on the island. Thanks michelle
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 29, 2008 4:15PM
Hi Michelle - you can rent camping gear in Hanalei at Kayak Kauai or Peddle and Paddle. W
Jan 29, 2008 10:49PM
We have applied for a permit for mid-June 2008. Anything unique or different about hiking this trail this time of year - mid-June - that we should be aware of? Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 30, 2008 7:21PM
Aloha Dave. You should know that June is a hot time of year on Kauai and the trail is strenuous. Make sure you stay hydrated and keep your pack as light as possible. I recommend beginning the trail very early this time of year. After crossing the river at Hanakapi'ai, there is a steep incline that does not have much shade. Making this trek at 8am rather than high noon is preferable. Also, the summer months see more visitors at Kalalau because it is accessible via kayak during the small surf of this season. It is still a huge valley with plenty of space to walk in solitude, but the camp areas on the beach will most likely be more populated than the winter months.
Other feedback for Dave from the users in this forum is welcome.
Enjoy your time in Kalalau. J
Jan 30, 2008 8:04PM
Just wanted everyone to know that although the bus sounds like a great option, they do not take backpacks. I'm not sure why unless it's so that the taxis get more business. Anyway, it would be something to lobby for to have either the taxi companies have a flat rate for travel to the trailhead or that the buses change their policy and encourage use by tourists coming from the airport. I realize they probably have to limit the size of items somehow but maybe somewhat larger than the dimensions allowed now would help.
Feb 04, 2008 6:11PM
For those looking for a place to leave their stuff, I did notice some lockers in the Post Office in Hanalei, that might be an option. Alternatively, you could put it in a trash bag and hide it in the woods somewhere. I stayed at the YMCA, and they directed me to a woman named Betty across the street who keeps stuff for hikers, but I do NOT recommend this option, as she is very busy, and it was very inconvenient to get my things back ... and then she tried to hit me up $5 for all her "trouble!" OTOH, at that point I was staying in Hanalei and hitching back and forth (couldn't travel after dark) - if I had had a car or been staying at the Y, I'm sure it would have been easier.
I met so many nice people while hitchhiking around the North Shore - definitely recommend it!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 04, 2008 6:24PM
Jason - the lockers at the Hanalei Post Office are for mail.
Feb 04, 2008 6:38PM
For those concerned about the heights, I have to say that I was completely terrified. I turned around at mile 8 - which I hear is after the worst part, but the thought of putting more dangerous trail between me and home was more than I could stand at that point. The \"cliffs\" around mile 7 are short, but starting around mile 4, there are many, many sections where a slip could have bad consequences, or at least it seemed so to me.
That said, I am a big chicken when it comes to heights, and there were plenty of people trotting by in flip-flops where I was scooting on my butt. Give it a shot, if you\'re not particularly scared by mile 6, it doesn\'t get all that much worse ... if you are scared, realize that there will be significant distances that are as bad or worse than what you\'ve already done.
FWIW, the advice that I heard over and over from locals was - if the trail is sketchy, slow down and be careful, don\'t let nervousness make you speed up to get it over with.
Feb 04, 2008 7:10PM
Oh, one thing about sleeping bags - I took only a thin sleeping bag liner, but I was cold just about every night in my tent. At least for cold sleepers visiting this time of year, I would recommend something along the lines of a light sleeping bag, not just a sheet or bag liner.
Feb 06, 2008 1:31PM
Hey just looked at the videos of the kalalau trail on you tube... prety cool! I can see why people are afraid!!!!! What I didn´t see from those great pictures was tropical landscape. I realize the cliffs edge must be dryer landscape but what about the parts of the trail that get away from the cliffs edge. Is this "rain forest/tropical"landscape? because hawaii conjures up pictures of the tropics and I don´t want to be dissapointed. Also W you suggested staying and exploring at the end of the trail for two nights. What exactly is there to explore, are there trails and what is the landscape like there? Thanks for the great site! MG
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 06, 2008 6:52PM
Aloha MG. You may notice that the trail is currently closed. Keep in touch with the DLNR to make sure the trail is open before solidifying plans. There are some dry and crumbling sections of trail but there are also very wet and tropical areas as well. Both kinds of conditions can be slippery so use caution. Vast Kalalau Valley, lies at the end of the 11 mile trail. There is camping on the bluff near the beach and numerous foot trails that meander through the valley's jungle and along its rivers. W's right to recommend at permits for at least 2 nights here. J
Feb 07, 2008 10:29AM
any word on why the trail is closed and or how long? Is itdue to the recent weather conditions? I won´t be there till september, is it likely to be closed until then? Thanks again for the quick reply!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 07, 2008 5:40PM
MG - the trail is closed inexplicably but it will re-open soon. W
Feb 07, 2008 9:59PM
Thanks for the incredibly helpful Q&A. I am headed to the Kalalau trail with 3 friends at the end of March and have picked up some great tips from this thread. My first question pertains to water purification. Do you know whether iodine tablets are effective against leptospirosis? Similarly, do you know if the SteriPEN is? Additionally, I read somewhere that the local Sierra Club chapter offers rides to the trailhead in exchange for a donation. Any sense of whether that is true? Thanks again.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 09, 2008 1:42AM
Aloha Sam - Kalalau with friends is fun stuff indeed. There are other purification-related posts in this thread and I'm gonna err towards caution in terms of purification. I use a Katadyn filter, others boil or use tablets. I do not know the effectiveness of the Steri-Pen. For transportation you can catch the bus then hitchhike but I do not know of Sierra club rides. Also for $5 / night you can safely park at YMCA Camp Naue and the caretaker will usually give you a ride to Kee. W
Feb 10, 2008 10:04PM
Oops, should have read all the posts before asking my question about transportation to/from the trailhead.
Is the YMCA Camp Naue really the best option for this? Safe to keep rental with luggage on site .. clean accomodations .. ?
Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 11, 2008 4:13PM
Carlos - yes the YMCA is a safe place to leave your rental car and gear while you hike to Kalalau. Many times you can also get a ride to the trailhead from the caretakers. The accommodations are clean but simple (think kids summer camp with a million-dollar location). Car park = $5/night. Camp / bunk = $15/person/night. Rentals nest to the Y-camp = $10k / week.
Feb 12, 2008 5:20PM
Do you have any insight as to when the trail will be open again? Is it closed due to trail waashout and needs to be rebuilt, or simply higly river crossings?
Ashlie
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 12, 2008 8:40PM
Hi Ashlie - the trail is now open again. It was closed due to the fact that the park ranger hiked the trail when it was very rainy on Sunday Feb. 3, 2008. The rain event was short-lived and it was beautiful hiking conditions all week. Unfortunately the inefficiencies of the State DLNR required a different ranger to hike the trail and issue the OK to reopen. We have had a number of complaints and reports from travelers that came a long way to hike, only to find out that the trail is closed via the sign at the trailhead. Na Pali - big on beauty, small on park management. W
Feb 13, 2008 2:45AM
My husband and I are going to be in Kauai next week and this sounds like a great hike. I think we\\\'ll probably just hike to Hanakapi\\\'ai Beach and back. I\\\'m in pretty good shape (run about 15 miles a week) and my husband\\\'s in ok shape as well. I\\\'m notoriously clumsy and I wanted to know how difficult the first two miles are? What sort of shoes should I wear? Any recommendations on where to pick up a hiking stick or is this not even necessary?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 14, 2008 8:28PM
Aloha Heidi. The hike to Hanakapiai is challenging because of steep and narrow inclines. It also is very rocky in spots and can be quite muddy depending on recent weather. Proper footwear does make a difference. Check out the site's Footwear page in the Info Guide section. Shoes that support the feet and have good traction are best. I like walking sticks, but prefer to have my hands free on this trail to be available to catch myself in case I trip. Take it slow and stay aware on the trail and you're in for a beautiful hike experience. Enjoy. J
Feb 14, 2008 10:18PM
Areden and I are going to be on the trail from 2/21-25th. This is my 2nd time on the trail and I write this because of the excitement that's welling up. I was on the trail in 97 and have never forgot the beautiful views and beaches. We plan to hitchhike from the airport as before. We have tried to come up with better transportation to now luck. I guess it will be a nice way to meet someone. I noticed a structure at the beach on google earth. Is that a bathroom? Is anyone else planning on being on the trail?
Feb 15, 2008 3:00PM
Hi, I\'m planning to hike the Kalalau trail up to the beach in a day and a half, then stay 2 days and a half at beach then come back. So thats 5 days of camping. I was wondering how long before the trip I need to get permits for hiking and camping? Is there any permits emition limits? (The DLNR site is down) Can I plan to just get there and pickup my permits once I reserved from Canada?
Thanks a lot!!
Feb 15, 2008 6:55PM
Aloha!
I was thinking about hiking the Kalalau trail on a last minute trip! Does mid-march has nice weather??
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 15, 2008 9:15PM
Aloha Auric. Specifics about the permits/camping are best answered by the DLNR. I've redirected our website's links to their new homepage. Phone numbers for their Oahu location are listed there and I'll give the Kauai number here:(808) 274-3444. Being in Canada, I understand you may want to try cyberspace. Their email address is: dlnr@hawaii.gov, but I'm not sure how timely their response will be. If you haven't seen it already, check out the permit page through the State parks site for more info:http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/camping/fees.cfm.
Keep in mind if you take a day and a half to hike to Kalalau, you'll need a permit for camping at the 6 mile point, Hanakoa. Enjoy your trip! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 15, 2008 9:17PM
Hi Auric. It's hard to predict the weather on Kauai, as it is always changing. March can see both rain and sun. When deciding whether or not to hike the trail, it's best to wait til you get here and watch the weather predictions. J
Feb 17, 2008 2:27PM
Been reading many posts about permit problems, just wanted people to know my sister and I had absolutely no problem getting a 5 night permit from DLNR! We applied last October for June/July '08 and my sister even found the office staff in Lihue to be very helpful! One other question: I keep hearing how horrible the camping at Hanakoa is. We'll be camping there one night in and one out, is it really that bad? Should a person bring a tarp to put under the tent? Advice?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 17, 2008 6:51PM
Julie - thanks for letting us know about the DLNR. I think it's easier to get a permit via mail than if you live here.
If you are going to camp at Hanakoa you need a good tent because the mosquitoes can be voracious. I always put a footprint under my tent. Be careful putting a tarp under the tent because it can actually direct water towards your tent if it really rains. If you can walk the full 11 in one day that is the best way to go. W
Feb 18, 2008 6:43PM
I hiked this trail over 30 years ago. I remember it being incredibly beautiful and of some difficulty.
My friend and I, both about 19 years old at the time; we were inexperienced and carried a canvas army pup tent, canned food and no stove (just matches). His was an old boyscout back-pack and the frame broke when we were walking on one of the gravely places with a sheer 1000 foot drop to the ocean. He lost his balance and I caught him by the arm before he went over.
We never got a fire going that was worth a damn, so our food was cold straight out of the can. Our last night was spent at the Hanakoa shelter where we ran into two Hawaiian hunters fresh from a wild goat kill. They managed a roaring fire and we ate well that evening.
I'm taking my wife to Kauai this spring. We're going to hike into Hanakapiai, but no further. I'm really looking forward to being there again.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 18, 2008 10:06PM
HI Yar. There are plenty of stories of folks who were less than prepared that "made it" through the challenges of the Kalalau trail. It makes for rich memories, but this trail is certainly much safer and better enjoyed with proper planning and good information. Thanks for sharing your story. Have a great reunion with the trail and a beautiful time in Hanakapiai. J
Feb 20, 2008 4:05PM
I was wondering if you have any information on trail conditions since they reopened the trail last week ? I have a permit for late March. Thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 20, 2008 6:00PM
Lee - the trail is in the same shape it has been since I can remember. I hiked 3x last week. Tough and unmaintained but a rewarding challenge. The DLNR should not have closed it for so long. W
Kyle
Feb 23, 2008 12:54PM
Thank You All for your invaluable insight into "The Best Trail in the World!"
I'm hiking it for the second time in a month as a much needed respite from UH - Manoa. Kalalau Valley feels exactly like I would imagine heaven on earth to be. College life demands many adventures outside the classroom for true wisdom to be attained. Last time I ventured to Kalalau I learned how important it is to get the required permit beforehand; it's much cheaper and way more enjoyable than the alternative I experienced my last day in the valley. :-) Have Fun, and ALOHA. Kyle
Feb 27, 2008 4:34AM
Kauai Explorer staff: what do you recommed for purifying and filtering water? Has anyone on the staff used the Steri-PEN REI sells? The REI online staff recommeded the First Need Deluxe instead. Any ideas? What have other folks used? I'm not sure what to purchase with so much out on the market. thanks.
Feb 27, 2008 6:16PM
My boyfriend, Robert and I just came off the trail. We knew it was going to be difficult and beautiful. It was all of that. I am afraid of heights and going in the two miles stretch between 6 and 8 got to me. Thankfully Robert is an old adventure guide and mountain climber and he literally talked me through it. We carried too much weight and can only stress KEEP THE WEIGHT LOW. It really makes all the difference. Also -- good hiking boots should be required. Nothing else will do really. It poured at Kalalau the last night and we hiked out in the rain part of the trip. It was easier for me going back. We did see people along the way who looked unprepared for the trip. One couple we saw late in the day headed to Hanakoa -- too late in the day to get there but we could not deter them. We hope they made it.
We hitchiked from the airport in and out and met great people. Every one went out of their way to take us where we needed to go. For that we are thankful and grateful and wish we could do something to say thank you.
We have beautiful pictures and great memories of this once in a lifetime trip. Next time we kayak around the top end or go inland to the waterfall at mile two. You need to take frequent breaks to enjoy the views as you are looking at your feet most of the way. Stay hydrated!
It is very hard to do the trail in one day. Two days is better in and out and at least two full days at the beach. I can't stress enough PACK LIGHT - no more than 20 lbs. for women and 25 or 30 for big guys.
Curious George made it the whole way too.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 27, 2008 6:41PM
Mahalo for the post, Arden. We try to emphasize the importance of the three things you highlighted: pack light, wear appropriate footwear and stay hydrated. Giving yourself the necessary time to hike the whole trail (2 days for many) makes for a much gentler experience. Glad you had a great adventure. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 27, 2008 11:35PM
Hi Julie - regarding your water purification question - I have personally only used MSR and Katadyn filters and NOT the Steri-Pen. The OFFICIAL advice is that ONLY tablets or boiling will effectively treat the water. I have been using filters for years but my water source is chosen carefully, but for liability reasons I will not deviate from the official advice. W
Feb 28, 2008 3:34PM
Aloha,
My husband,a friend, and I just hike the first 1/2 mile of this trail. Unfortunately it was all we had time for, but it was enough of a taste that we would get permits and do it as an overnight. It appears to be an amazing trail.
Mar 04, 2008 4:52AM
Thanks for the great resource. I am planning on hiking the trail in late April, and would like to get an early morning start. Where would you recommend I stay the night before? I will be renting a car (with 3 other people) and would also like a safe place to leave my car (ideally at the hotel or place we stay the night before). Any recommendations on good places to stay that are close to the trailhead? Thansk!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 04, 2008 8:21PM
Hi Morgan. You're wise to get an early start on the trail. There are vacation rentals in the Haena area, but it would take a bit of searching on your part. The Hanalei Colony Resort is the closest hotel (about 1-2 miles away) to the trailhead and would be a good bet. Yes, it is not safe to leave your car at the trailhead when you're hiking overnight. Have a great hike! J
Mar 04, 2008 10:16PM
My husband and I are hiking the trail in May. We have a 6lb backpacking tent, but are considering leaving the tent at home and opting for lightweight hammocks with mosquito netting for Kalalau. We will be camping everywhere else we go in Hawaii though, and I am wondering if hammock camping will be possible/advisable at other campgrounds. Thanks, any advice is appreciated!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 05, 2008 8:08PM
Aloha Kelly. Anything to keep your weight light on the trail is advised. People do fair pretty well in Kalalau with a hammock, but it can rain (though it is drier than the North Shore). For other campgrounds around the island, I'd recommend a tent for both privacy and rain coverage. The hammock would be nice for a midday nap. Enjoy the trail! J
Mar 06, 2008 8:17PM
Aloha, I am planning to hike/camp/bowhunt back the Na Pali trail in a couple weeks (late March 08). I am still awaiting my permit, but dlnr says they sent it. I have very limited time and am wanting to find a goat as soon as possible. Any suggestions on the highest goat concentrations? With limited time, Do you suggest I just try up the Hanakapai trail for a goat or from what I've heard I should go past Hanakoa. Do you think I could make it just past Hanakoa, find a goat and pack it out all in one day? Mahalo for any advice.
AK Andy
Mar 06, 2008 9:00PM
Aloha from a remote Alaskan Island again. I forgot to ask: I use a Jetboil stove to boil water with. I cannot travel with the fuel cannister in my luggage. Is there a store on Kauai where I can buy a small fuel canister for use with a jet boil?
perhaps Waipoouli Variety store in Kapa a? AWESOME website man,I can hardly wait for this trip, I am really hoping to find a goat quick because me wife won\'t go hunt with me and I will have to be away from her while camping with my bow. anyhow, Mahalo for any advice on where to get a fuel canister and anything you can help me with a likely spot to find a goat?
Mar 08, 2008 2:41AM
Special thanks to the staff of Camp Naue for giving me a ride to the trailhead on Feb12th. I strongly recommend the YMCA camp for budget minded backpackers. Only $15 to camp or bunk, $5 to leave your car at their safe location. They are located right on the beach, next to multi million dollar homes. Cute dog too.
Thanks Camp Naue!
Mar 10, 2008 6:45AM
AK Andy-
There is a store for gas in Lihue. I think it is called Gas Pro. Go about a mile north of the airport, then turn right by some car dealership. Also I think hunting season is in the fall. Have fun.
Mar 11, 2008 1:07PM
Are there any boating outfits that do the drop off at the beach so as to only camp and then do the hike out? We are coming to the island the first week of April.
Thx
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 11, 2008 6:58PM
Kayak companies on the island will assist in boating clients to Kalalau but not until May when surf is smaller. There are no boat companies that are legally allowed to do 'drop offs' at Kalalau. Should you know/find someone with a privately owned boat that's willing...well, that does happen but is not recommended/legal.
If you do hike in, definitely pack as lightly as possible. I hold a rule of nothing more than 30 lbs and healthy hikers in this forum have recommended as light as 20lbs. You feel every ounce on this trail. But so worth the challenge! Enjoy! J
Mar 12, 2008 11:34AM
Hi
We are planning a hike in Sept. We already obtained our permits.However, were wondering how much of a problem it would be if we arrived at the Hanakoa camp and felt like going on to the beach and stayed there 2 nights instead of split. Also, can you recommend a good sporting store to buy our food for the trip? Thanks,
Love your site. Mel
Mar 12, 2008 12:15PM
Hi guys, this comment thread is the best source of information about this trail I\'ve found so far! Good job!!
I\'m heading to Kauai next week. I got my permits a couple weeks ago in O\'ahu. Just to let you know, camping limits are 20 persons max per night at Hanakoa, and 60 max per night at Kalalau. Still, Hanakoa is easily available and Kalalau not as easy.
I had to get some days in Hanakoa and others in Kalalau because of this. So I have a couple questions:
1- Are the permits often required on the trail?
2- Do you think I can get in trouble if I\'m sleeping at Kalalau having a permit for Hanakoa??
Mahalo.
Mar 12, 2008 9:14PM
Aloha,
Do you know if there is a trail going to manawaiopuna falls and how to get there. I know people have been in there before, and it is long and very difficult, but I am a serious adventurer and don't care if the trail is maintained. I'm looking for directions on how to get there. Thanks for any help.
Mahalo
Mar 12, 2008 9:16PM
Weird feelings right now.. 1st of all.. great website..
Supposedly secured permits here in Honolulu for a trek out in June. Wanting to stay somewhere on wednesday night (either at hotel or at hanakapi'ai) then start the rest on thursday.. Called YMCA lady said they are booked, and we can't even leave our car there for $5 a night... Kauai Colony is booked for 5 day min guest.. Where else can we leave our car and have it somewhat secured?
Thanks..
Monica
Mar 13, 2008 6:14AM
I am planning a hiking trip with my boyfriend in May. My boyfriend is in great shape and I am in average shape. I\'m wondering what time you would recommend we start the Kalalau trail hike to get there by sunset? I would really love to see the sunset at Kalalau beach. I\'ve read several postings and am probably one of those who will need to take frequent breaks along the way - and I do not want to get stuck at Hanakoa to camp. Everyone\'s postings of their experiences and the feedback you have provided have been so helpful. Thank you in advance.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 13, 2008 7:16PM
Aloha Monica. Start the trail as early as you possibly can. If you begin at first light, you'll miss the heat of the sun when you have a steep incline about 2 miles in on the trail. If you know in advance you'll need breaks, then allow an entire day to carefully hike this strenuous (but amazing) trail. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 13, 2008 7:28PM
Aloha Neil. Glad you enjoy the site. You're right not to leave your car in the parking lot while in the Valley. I'd suggest either finding a vacation rental in the Haena area or finding someone to drop you off at the trail head. Enjoy Kalalau! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 13, 2008 7:41PM
Aloha Nach. Thanks for the feedback! Technically, you must have a permit to be on the trail past Hanakapiai, though I've never been asked to show a permit while hiking the trail. Obviously, if your permit is for Hanakoa and you're in Kalalau, if rangers come in and request to see your permit, you will be technically in violation and subject to a fine. The decision is ultimately up to you though we would not recommend anyone camping in Kalalau without a permit. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 13, 2008 7:44PM
Aloha Mel. Glad you enjoy the site. See the comments I made to Nach about being the Kalalau with only a permit for Hanakoa. Many people go to the health food store in either Kapaa or Hanalei to get bulk food items for camping. If you're looking for specialty freeze-dried types of packaged foods, you'd probably have a hard time finding that here. Most sporting goods are found at local variety stores here. Enjoy your hike! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 14, 2008 2:03AM
Hi David. The official word from the County website is that these falls are currently inaccesible and only visable via helicopters. Kauai has a special way of revealling itself to people and for explorer's like yourself, that can be half the fun. With extremely fragile ecosytems and unstable ground, it is never recommended to stray from the trail. Happy exploring! J
Mar 15, 2008 4:14PM
Hi,
As many others have said, this is the best site I\'ve seen for information! Thanks! I have a couple more questions though.
We will be hiking the Na Pali coast in April. We had planned to hike to Hanakoa the first night, Kalalau the second night and back to Hanakoa the third night giving us plenty of time to go slowly and see the sights. From what I\'m reading here maybe we should try to change the permits and stay at Kalalau all 3 nights?
We are experienced hikers particularly when it comes to mountaineering (glacier travel, rock climbing etc.) but have little experience near the ocean. I am concerned we will pack too heavy. It looks like you\'re recommending packing very light. The only tent we own is a 4 season tent which is very light to carry but will this just be rediculously warm? Should we look at purchasing a summer tent?
As for footwear, a co-worker told me he saw people on the trail wearing some type of knobby footwear that looked like it worked well in the mud. Is there anything in particular you recommend?
Lastly, do we need tide charts for this hike or other knowledge of the ocean?
Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 17, 2008 5:49PM
Aloha Beth. Thanks for the positive feedback. Hanakoa offers a great respite halfway through the trail, especially for those not physically prepared for a very strenuous hike. Hanakoa is beautiful but dark as it is encompassed by a jungle of trees, there is no view or beach access on this cliffside area and this spot is popular with local goat hunters. Avid hikers may be happiest to pack light, give themselves all day and move on through to Kalalau.
Take your light tent and sleep with the door open if you get too hot. Glad you got the "pack light" message.
Check out our footwear section on this site in the Info guides. You may be referring to Tabbies, which are rubber slippers with felt for gripping the reef. They do well in mud and holding on to wet rocks but have no arch support. You can get them at grocery stores.
Have a great hike! J
Mar 17, 2008 9:27PM
Aloha from Arizona!!!
I've read through most of the blogs and only have a few questions!!
In reference to the permits, both for hiking and camping, I would like to know if they are available to pick up the day of at the District Offices?? On their website, they mention that the easiest way to obtain permits is at the physical location...if this is true, I would like to just purchase my permits when me and my posse arrive in May. Is this an OK route to go??
Also, I've seen that Hanakoa Falls and Hanakapi'ai Falls are in route along the Kalalau Trail, how far off the immediate trail are they?? We will probably visit the closest one to the trail because our main focus is Kalalau Beach! And is the water from the falls safe to drink, or should we stick to tablets?
And lastly, are there many visible wild animals on Kalalau Beach?? My mother-in-law is concerned with wild boars or chickens!!! I told her I haven't seen any comments about the wildlife, but I have to put her thoughts to rest!!
Mahalo!!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 19, 2008 7:33AM
Aloha Ashley. Call the district offices and hear their best advice on permit pick up. Both Hanakapiai Falls and Hanakoa Falls are off the main trail. If you're heading to Kalalau, don't bother trying to hike an additional 2 miles (one way) to Hanakapiai falls. Save your energy for the hike to Kalalau. It is recommended to treat all water with tablets. Wild goats are in Kalalau but they will not disturb people. J
Mar 20, 2008 5:15PM
Thanks for providing a site with such detailed info. My question is, my cousin and I are planning on flying to Kauai in mid-July to do the hike. It being March, is it too late to get permits for the hike? From what I've read it can be a bit tricky in general, so I just want to make sure before I book that plane ticket. Thanks for your insight and keep up the good work!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 21, 2008 12:22AM
Aloha Steve. Contact the DLNR office (see phone number on this page at top) to get the status of permit availability for your dates. J
Mar 22, 2008 9:07PM
We are debating whether to hike the Kalalau Trail or take a kayak tour. which is the best way to see the coast line and get to remote beaches and caves? Also, is it possible to kayak by yourself without a guided tour group?
Mar 23, 2008 7:34AM
Aloha!
We're coming your way in a couple weeks and already have our permit for camping at Kalalua Beach on the 16th of April. We're in good shape and not too worried about getting to the beach, but wonder if Hanakoa is the best falls with pool option on the trail or if there are other options close to Kalalau Beach (We ruled out Hanakapiai as too far off the trail). We're only staying one night, so it will have to be something pretty close.
Thanks in advance for the help, your site rocks.
Best,
John
Mar 23, 2008 7:39AM
My husband and I are planning to hike the trail this week. Do you have any updates on current trail conditions? Especially the 'sketchy' part -- 6.5 to 8 miles in? I saw that there may have been some 'improvements' to the trail recently? Is this true?
Mar 24, 2008 4:30PM
I am planning to hike the Kalalau trail around May 23-25th; I noticed that you don't advise women to hike alone. How dangerous is it (alos, is it the hiking or the camping alone that is not advisable), and is there a way to find a fellow companion for the hike?
Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 24, 2008 7:18PM
Aloha Twila. If you want to see caves and remote beaches, kayaking is the best way. The trail meanders along the coast but is up high, stopping at Hanakapiai beach and Kalalau beach. Kayak tours are only offered May - Sept on the Na Pali and it is highly recommended to go with a guide, as this is a arduous paddle. I don't think you can rent kayaks from the companies for trips down the coast alone. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 24, 2008 7:23PM
Aloha Elena. As with any outdoor adventure, it is not advisable for anyone to go without a buddy. If it is your first time in the area, this is especially true, male or female. In terms of finding a hiking companion, maybe someone in the forum here would like to connect...? Keep in mind that the trail is a strenuous 11 miles and you may not want to experience it with a stranger. There is no other means of networking for the trail that we know of. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 24, 2008 7:39PM
Aloha Allie. It's hard to say what the trail conditions are, exactly. You could always call the DLNR to ask for any updates. See the phone number on this page. Volunteers as well as the State are often working to improve the trail. It runs along an erroding cliffside, so it is constantly changing. The point on the trail you are speaking of can be 'sketchy'. Just pay attention, take your time and PACK LIGHT. Anyone in the forum been on the trail recently enough to give a report? Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 24, 2008 8:05PM
Hi John. Though Hanakoa has some pools in the river along the trail, it is pretty dark and overgrown in this valley. I'd suggest spending as much time in Kalalau as possible. You can follow the river that runs through Kalalau Valley and find many pools and waterfalls all the way up. Enjoy! J
Mar 24, 2008 8:48PM
I was wondering if you could recommend a few places on Kauai to buy fuel canisters for a backpacking stove. I'm looking for the fairly standard 230 g canisters of Primus 4-season mix. Also, I'll be on the trail later this week. What is the weather looking like at the moment? (I know it's capricious.)
Rigo
Mar 26, 2008 1:49AM
Hi! I will be in Kauai next week and want hike the Kalalau trail, anyone have an update on the trail? Very excited!
Thanks!
Mar 26, 2008 2:41AM
We are hoping to hike the 1st 2 miles of the trail, camp, then hike the additional 2 miles to the falls. We are coming in early April this year. Is this a safe trail for two young children, ages 5 and 9? I noticed someone else asked this same question but didn't see the response.
Thanks.
Mar 26, 2008 10:34PM
My family & I will be staying at Hanalei Bay Resort April 15-22. I have been researching several websites concerning bowhunting opportunities. I know about the $95.00 non-resident fee & the need of my hunter safety certificate. Do you know if there is a 3 day or short term non-resident license available? Do you know what available areas are close to the resort? Thanks for your time.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 27, 2008 4:09AM
Aloha Tony. Contact the DLNR directly to get learn more. Their website is found at http://hawaii.gov/dlnr/. There is a contact phone number on this webpage, as well. Enjoy your stay. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 27, 2008 4:13AM
Aloha Sam. Waipouli variety store in Kapaa or Village Variety in Hanalei both have camping supplies. Of course, there are the 'big box' store standards in Lihue that will also carry these items. The weather this week has been mostly sunny with a bit of sun showers. Have a great hike! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 27, 2008 4:19AM
Hi Rigo. Of course, anyone on the forum who has recently been on the trail is welcome to give an update. You can also visit the DLNR website for latest bulletins or call them directly for info. See their contact information under the photo on this page. Aloha. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 27, 2008 4:31AM
Aloha Jan. Permits are no longer being issued for camping at the 2 mile mark of the Kalalau trail at Hanakapiai. So, hiking to the falls in this valley requires a 8 mile, round trip, day hike. I think most children under 10 would have difficulty. Only you know the condition your children are in, but even the first 2 miles of the hike (one way) is considered strenuous and I would think it would be a stretch for a 5 year old. Check out some of the other hikes highlighted on the site for more moderate family excursions. J
Mar 29, 2008 1:28AM
These are the same GPS waypoints Nico posted a while back, except their Google Maps friendly. Hope this will be useful to someone!
Ke?e Beach: 22.2185, -159.58116
Hanakapiai(2 miles): 22.20845, -159.59763
Hanakoa (6 miles): 22.19083, -159.6196
Kalalau(11 miles): 22.17516, -159.6546
Mar 30, 2008 7:01AM
Hello! First off, thanks for putting up such a great website. My boyfriend and I are going to Kauai next week and are planning on hiking part of the Kalalau trail. We want to do the whole thing but only have 2 days and one night to get there and get back. I really think we\'d be pushing it to do the whole trail 2 days in a row. Do you recommend doing the first six miles and camping at Hanakoa (assuming we can still get a permit) or only hiking the first 2 miles and then hiking back to stay somewhere near the trailhead? Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 30, 2008 6:02PM
Lauren - camping at Kalalau is definitely the best. If you cant make it all the way I would do a long day hike to Hanakoa (12 miles round trip) or to Hanakapiai falls (8 miles round trip). There are campgrounds at Haena and Anini. W
Mar 31, 2008 8:37PM
Great Website!!!
Apr 01, 2008 9:40PM
hi
want to say once again about GREAT web site (you're the best!) and great service in terms of quick responses.
we should be on Kalalau trail for 5 nights starting April 21st and I have one question. Is there any cell phone coverage along the trail / on Kalalau beach / in Kalalau valley? Especially GSM-phones, do they work there?
Thanks in advance,
Alexander.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 03, 2008 6:10PM
Thanks Alexander - glad you like the website. There is no cell-phone coverage along the trail. Suggest you either leave the phone in the car or huck it off the cliff (just kidding). If you get in trouble there are boats and helicopters passing by regularly. W
Apr 03, 2008 8:41PM
Hi - I did a rushed version of Kalalau last December. We hiked to six mile on day one, then I went to Kalalau and back on day 2, and then back out on day 3. Clearly, I need to do it again except with more time in the Valley.
I just ran into the possibility of going, but it would be the second week of June. My questions are:
1. Do I have a chance of getting a permit for June at this late date?
2. Do the chances for permits increase if I were to get a Hawaiian resident to get the permit for me (versus via mail)?
3. Does the valley lose some of its luster with the allowance of the zodiacs / kayaks? Or is it still just as special?
I appreciate any help. And thanks for the site ... it made my prior trip wonderful, and is hopefully going to help again!
Apr 03, 2008 8:58PM
My wife and I hiked in on Thursday (3/27/08) and back out the next day. The conditions of the trail were actually quite good and the views unbelievable. I\'m in my late twenties and in great shape and this trail absolutely kicked my butt. The first day in was fine but the second day out was quite tough due to muscle fatigue and general soreness from the previous day. If you are considering doing this trail in 2 days (or 1!) please make sure you know what you are getting into and leave yourself lots of extra time by leaving early. I hiked in with a 20-25 lb pack and my wife had a 10 lb pack. I saw a few hikers with 35-40 lb REI packs hiking in TEVA\'s who were in utter exhaustion so that is definitely not the way to go!
Miles 6.5-8.0 were in great shape trail-wise. The water crossings were all low and safe due to the lack of steady rainfall. There were about 20 people on Kalalau Beach. Apparently there is also a film crew camping in the woods filming a documentary. I did not see them however while I was there. I saw a group of three kayakers make an albatross landing on the beach. I\'ve never seen a kayak get launched upside down in a wave that bad in my life. The beach was surreal and the hippies and other campers were all really friendly. Best hike of my life!
Apr 04, 2008 2:35AM
Great website! I wish I would have seen this when I tried to obtain my permit 2 months ago! See you on the trail!
Apr 04, 2008 2:27PM
A great website guys and a tremendous resource for those planning trips to the area.
My wife and I will be coming to the island at the end of May and have applied for permits for two nights at Kalalau beach. Can't wait!!! This site has provided a wealth of info and helped answer some key questions about the trail.
Does anyone want to sound off on how this past winter treated the trail? Has there been a lot of rain? (by that I mean more than usual)Any really "bad" areas at the moment?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 04, 2008 5:59PM
Greg - right now it is really dry so the hiking to Kalalau will be great. The trail did not get damaged this winter - but it has been a long time since the State did any real maintenance. Good things the Hawaiians knew how to build a solid trail. W
Gym Brasil
Apr 04, 2008 6:49PM
Hi Rick! this site is very great!!!
Apr 04, 2008 6:55PM
Any more info about the recent closure of the trail? I am on oahu, and heard about it on the radio and read the article..
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 04, 2008 9:01PM
Hi Jeremy. Glad the site has been helpful. Most of your permit questions can be answered by calling the DLNR at the number listed on this page below the photo. I've noticed that non-residents sometimes have an easier time w/ permitting right from the website. June sees more campers because of kayaking, but as you know, it's a huge valley and there are plenty of places to find some alone time. Aloha. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 04, 2008 9:22PM
Aloha Neil. There are still campsites available, but some have been closed. Check out the link on this page below the photo to read the official release about the closures from the DLNR. If anyone else in the forum has info, feel free to post it. Aloha. J
Apr 07, 2008 4:04PM
Any thoughts on the best area to pitch your tent at Kalalau Beach? Obviously close to the waterfall would be nice, but right on the sand or in the field/grove area?
Also... on the issue of nudity... I've read a few articles that imply it's OK and actually fairly common on the beach; is that indeed the case?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 07, 2008 8:26PM
Aloha Greg. Check out the latest info on the DLNR's closure of campsites at Kalalau on the link below the photo on this page. Of course, always pitch a tent at a designated campspot and most at Kalalau are within a short walking distance from the waterfall. As for nudity, it is technically illegal in the state of Hawaii to be nude in public, including in Kalalau valley, but you will see some people ignoring this. Some locals can be especially sensitive to nudity so be respectful. Enjoy Kalalau. J
Apr 09, 2008 1:25AM
Is there a good and constant source of fresh water if you are hiking all the way to Kalalau, camping, and hiking back? Would chlorine or iodine tabs work fine with the water or would a filter be necessary?
Thanks,
Will
Apr 09, 2008 9:57AM
do i need tent for the kalalau hike to keep bugs off me at night or will i be just fine sleeping on my pad on the sand?? want to carry less as possible..maybe mesh bivy for bugs or lightweight tarp for rain?????
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2008 6:49PM
Aloha Will. The official word is to treat the water, rather than just filtering, but many people rely only on the filter. There is no fresh water source on the entire 11 mile trail to Kalalau or in Kalalau Valley, so you must bring some form of purification to make the water potable. Extremely important to stay hydrated on this trail. Hope this helps. Enjoy the trail! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2008 6:58PM
Aloha Paul. Glad to hear you're getting the message about packing light. Technically, camping is only permitted at designated camp spots (not the beach, itself). You will see people sleeping on the beach, though. You're on the right track with the mesh for bugs and light tarp for rain. If that suits your comfort, you may be glad for the lighter pack on the trail. A tent does offer a bit more privacy and a place to hide your gear from view...Hope that helps you to decide. Enjoy the Valley! J
Apr 09, 2008 11:08PM
You guys are fantastic!!! I am planing a five day trip in may. I understand that the water along the trail must be treated. My question is whether or not I should bring a lot of water to start with or are there enough spots to fill up that I can pack a bit lighter? I would like to just bring one bottle and just re-fill it at every source. Is this plausible? Also I am ditching my tent for a hammock with an integrated net and fly (much lighter). Are there sufficient areas where I could set my hammock up? Being a tropical island I would think there would be plenty of water and plenty of trees.
Thanks, Dave
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 10, 2008 8:24PM
Hi Dave. You've got a river at Hanakapiai 2 miles in, a river at Hanakoa 6 miles in and a stream at the 8 mile mark. As long as your treating your water you can fill up at these spots along the trail. There are trees scattered throughout the campsites at Kalalau that are solid enough to support a hammock. Have a great time. J
Apr 12, 2008 12:29AM
Hey guys! I will be packing into Kalalau in the next two weeks and I'm not sure what to do with my car. I've heard parking at Ke'e isnt a good idea. Do you think I'll be ok at YMCA campsite location or pay to park and take cab??
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 14, 2008 8:56PM
Hi Beau. You're right. Parking at Kee is not advised. As far as I know, it is not possible to park at the YMCA camp unless you are a guest. You would be best to find an appropriate spot for your vehicle and take a cab or find someone to drop you off. Have a great trip! J
Apr 15, 2008 2:39PM
Hello,
I will be hiking the trail in about two weeks, and have a question about what to bring for sleeping. I see that in most seasons, a tent with a sleeping pad and a top sheet is sufficient. Will this be enough for end of Apri? Or will it get cool enough at night to warrant a sleeping bag. Also, for cooking, can I bring a propane burner? I have experience backpacking and camping, but please let me know if there are other details specific to this trail that I should know of, in terms of sleeping and eating.
Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 15, 2008 6:14PM
Aloha Morgan. As you've probably seen in the thread, weight is a serious concern on the trail. That said, you'll see most campers in tents and in sleeping bags. I prefer to have a sleeping bag in case it is cold. Hopefully you have a lightweight one. Many people cook with a burner but you will have to hike the propane in, which adds weight. Another option is to either cook over a fire or simply bring food you don't need to cook. Have a great experience! J
Apr 17, 2008 6:40AM
Hey Morgan,
I hiked the trail a few weeks back, I went in with a ultralight tent, 40degree bag, and a jet boil stove... worked out perfect, wasnt going crazy on cutting back supplies and had right around a 20lb bag
i'm a big advocate of less weight == more fun too
have a great time!
Apr 17, 2008 2:56PM
hey all,
my boyfriend and i hiked the kalalau trail last week. we hiked in monday, camped at kalalau, and hiked out tuesday. it took us about 8-9 hours each way.
we are both pretty fit (both avid rock climbers and i run quite often). the trail was HARD. be prepared to hurt all over. if i was to do it again, i'd take at least 3 days. it's hard to appreciate the beauty of the trail when you're focused on getting in or out by sunset.
we left all of our other stuff (minus vauables) in the car parking lot at the trail base and had no problems with theft. we only had a filter for our water and we were okay.
the trail is gorgeous and the views are totally worth it!
Apr 17, 2008 3:15PM
Aloha!
As I was saying before - GREAT site! You guys a so cool!
We're finally going to hike Kalalau this next Monday and spend 5 nights on Kalalau beach.
I have three questions:
1. I was wondering if the stove is really needed there or it is legal to cook on open fire?
2. Is there a place on Kauai where I could store a bag while I\'m hiking Kalalau?
3. Do we need to take warm clothes, or shorts and t-shirts will be sufficient?
Thank you very much in advance,
Alexander.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 17, 2008 4:05PM
Thanks for the feedback, Justin! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 17, 2008 4:10PM
Hi Jill. Thanks for the feedback. Just want to remind the readers of this post that if you camp along the trail, it's only allowed at the 6 mile mark in Hanakoa, by permit only (and of course at Kalalau). Also, I'm stoked you had no trouble with your vehicle at the trailhead parking lot (Kee) but I think you just got lucky. We do not recommend leaving your car at the lot while camping on the Na Pali. Glad you had such a great time! Aloha. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 17, 2008 4:15PM
Thanks for the comments, Alexander. Hope you can spread the word about the site to your friends. You can have fires in Kalalau, so if you want to forgo the weight of a cookstove, that's an option. Of course, proper fire protocol should be used. There is no locker or storage space on the island that we're aware of. Contacting a local hostel may offer a lead. I always bring a lightweight, but warm, pair of pants and long sleeve shirt to wear at night or if it rains. Have a great time. Aloha. J
Apr 21, 2008 2:27AM
Hi all,
First of all I'll point out what many others have already said, great website! I've been scouring for a site like this and I've finally found it. I've read the entire site, but still have a few questions:
1) Fuel: I'll be arriving into Lihue at 7:30 PM and leaving for the trail head the following morning at crack of dawn. This leaves a problem regarding fuel, because I imagine stores will be closed by the time I arrive. I have a GigaPower Snow Peak stove that uses a blended isopropane/butane cartridge with threads. Any ideas what I can do?!
2) Shoes: I'm debating whether I should wear a pair of light trail runners with socks (timberlands) or a pair of sport sandals (Keens) without socks. Any comments on experiences with the latter option?
THANKS!
Greg
Apr 21, 2008 2:58AM
I heard the trial is closed due to dangerous conditions. Is this still true? I clicked on the link to try and get a permit and that\'s the message I got. I would like to visit in the next two weeks. Do I have time to get a permit via email, if they are available?
Thanks, Alison
Apr 21, 2008 5:19PM
If this topic has already been addressed then I apologize.
I have heard that there is a lot of nudity at Kalalau beach from the residents there and the visitors. Its not a big deal to me but I was thinking of taking my 10 yr old son. We are going to be taking our time and spending a night on the trial and a few nights on the beach. I was just wondering if I should prepare him ahead of time. I don't think it will be a problem, I just want to prepare him.
Thanks
Apr 22, 2008 1:12AM
I appreciate the quick response on the Awa trail hike I left a few weeks ago and now we are just a few days away from coming to the island. We've decided to bypass the NaPali kayak to do a little more hiking if the conditions aren't good and are thinking about doing just the front leg of the Kalalau trail up to the falls. Couple of questions- 1) how long should we expect the hike up to the falls and back to take if we want to spend some time up at the falls?? 2) We looked at the weather tonight and it looked like 50% chance of rain from Friday thru next Wed- I know last yesr we were all freaked out about the weather saying that it was going to rain everyday in dominican republic and it ended up being gorgeous- is that kind of the standard weather forcast for Kauai?? Or should we plan on a wet vacation no matter where we are on the island? Can't wait for the trip rain or shine- thanks for all of your help
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 22, 2008 8:40PM
Hi Tim. The hike to Hanakapiai Falls and back is 8 miles roundtrip. The trail is rigorous and often hot. Give yourself the day to really enjoy. As for weather forecasts, unless there is a big storm, the showers on Kauai tend to come and go fairly quickly. The south and west shores are generally sunny even if the North shore is getting a cloudy day. Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 22, 2008 8:46PM
Aloha Hunter. You can be prepared to probably see some nudity in Kalalau. It's not the norm but it's not rare. And of course, it is technically illegal. Enjoy this special hike with your son. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 22, 2008 8:52PM
Aloha Gregory. There are is a big box store (which shall remain nameless) in Lihue that is open late. You may want to check there for your fuel. As for shoes, blisters can definitely be an issue after 11 miles on that trail. Socks could help but make sure you don't wear any shoes that aren't broken in beforehand. Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 22, 2008 9:13PM
Aloha Alison. As far as we know, permits are still be offered for camping at Kalalau, though some campsites have been closed. You can download an application at this link:
http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/pdf/parkpermit.pdf
Call the DLNR for other questions: (808) 274-3444
Enjoy! J
Apr 23, 2008 6:27AM
Can you please tell me about the mosquito /bug condition along the Kalalau trail? We\'ll also be camping overnight at Kalalau and were wondering how bad the bugs were? Additionally, can you please clarify possible parking areas? I read in earlier posts that parking is available at the YMCA and a later post indicating that it\'s only available to guests? I\'ve tried calling the YMCA, but they were not answering their phones. Finally, how far is the YMCA from the beg. of he trail?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 23, 2008 7:12PM
Mosquitos are the thickest in jungle/forested areas, especially when there is little wind. Spots on the trail like Hanakoa are pretty full of mosquitos, but most of the trail is along the coast where fewer bugs hang around. Once in the valley, as long as you're camping along the beach, they aren't too bad. Building a fire helps keep them at bay, as well as mosquito repellent, obviously. As for parking, we advise catching a ride to the trailhead and leaving your car wherever you are staying. The YMCA camp is about 3 miles from the trailhead but they are not currently offering parking. Have a great hike! J
Apr 26, 2008 5:27PM
Hi there,
I am just wondering where I might be able to get a pass to hike this trail, and how far in advance I would need it?
We are hoping to hike the trail at the end of September this year, on our honeymoon.
Thanks!
Apr 26, 2008 10:39PM
Aloha!
Yesterday we returned from Kalalau beach... It was amazing!
With help of this great site (I asked several questions here) I was prepared very well for the hike and everything went just perfect.
I'm going to post a lot of photos with more detailed hike information on my page later (will provide link here if this is ok), but for now few words about our hike...
First day we started not so early - almost around 8am. We hiked 2 miles to Hanakapia\'i beach and spend about 40 minutes there. Very beatiful place! Nice place to put your legs into the cool stream and bite an energy bar on the beach.
After that we hiked to Hanakoa valley. We were going to stop there for a night to take a little rest and in the morning continue to Kalalau. We were told that Hanakoa doesn\'t really worth it though - a lot of bugs and mosquitos. As for me, I didn\'t see a lot of bugs (we found much more of them in Kalalau) and mosquitos were not a big problem (it was also not that bad as expected). There\'s a nice stream in Hanakoa and we found pretty nice place to camp across this stream (If somebody wants to camp there, location is: you should cross the stream and go up the trail for 20 meters or so and then turn up to the left, there\'ll be couple of places to camp. It\'s pretty nice, because it\'s not right on the stream, it\'s not near the toilets, few steps from the trail, but not very much visible from the trail).
Also, if you walk on the rocks down the stream a little bit you will find pretty nice pool where you can take a shower - there\'s a small waterfall and small pool, and this place is not visible from the trail.
On our next day we started around 7:40am. Our main worry was about 6.5-8 miles part of the trail and the narrow and eroded. When you go there for the first time it looks really dangerous, though very beatiful and impressive. I didn\'t worry much about myself passing this part, I was mostly worrying about my wife, because she was very afraid of it. But we passed it ok, no problems. Just don\'t look down while you\'re walking and concetrate on the tral and you\'ll be ok. If you want to look down, just make a stop in a safe place. Views are just amazing! There are only couple of really dangerous places in this part, but in general it\'s ok and pretty safe. As for me, it was almost the easiest part of the trail, because there\'s no lush vegetation there and it\'s easy to walk (as long as you don\'t afraid of heights that much and concetrate on the trail). There were a lot of goats on this part of the trail, so watch them, because if they are above you they can make rocks fall down on you.
After mile 8 the trail is not very difficult, though it still has several ascents and descents. It also has some small streams.
Finally, you will reach the red hill and at the bottom of it there\'ll be Kalalau valley. You\'ll have to cross one more stream and after that just go either to the valley or to the beach.
We camped on the beach under the tree almost where the sand ends. There are a lot of places to camp and all of them look just great, so there\'ll be no problem to find one.
At the end of the beach there\'s a nice pool that people use as a shower - it was really the best shower I\'ve ever had.
Kalalau beach is very very beatiful place! Sunsets are terrific!
There\'s a lot of nudity on the beach. Most of the people are very friendly.
On our way back we got up at 5am, packed and started around 6:15am. There was a small rain, but it was actually good, because the trail was better after small rain.
We made 11 miles in 7.5 hours without pushing ourselves and with 20 minutes stop at Hanakoa and 40 minutes stop at Hanakapia\'i. Just start as early as possible and you\'ll be ok.
On our way back my wife passed 6.5-8 miles part w/o noticing it at all. I just told her that we made it and she didn\'t believe that first, she thought that the dangerous stuff is still ahead of us. But she was really glad when we she realized that we already passed everything.
As for us, the hardest part of the trail on the way in and out is from Hanakapia\'i to Hanakoa. It\'s 4 miles of a lot of ascents and descents in jungles, some of them are pretty long.
Couple advise:
1. Wear good hiking boots. We were using good hiking boots with Gore-Tex, ankle support and very good traction and we were feeling very confident on the trail, especially this is important on 6.5-8 part of the trail.
2. Start as early as possible. It is really hard to hike under the sun, especially judgle parts of the trail.
3. Walking sticks help a lot! I didn\'t have one, so I found a good tree stick somewhere on the trail.
ok, I\'m going to enjoy my vacation and will post a link to photos and other info later.
Mahalo!
Alexander.
Apr 27, 2008 2:11AM
I hiked this trail on April 5, leaving at 12:45pm and wondering if I would make it before dark since I was carrying a 50 lb backpack for a two-night stay (permit was acquired!). Once I got past the 5 mile mark I decided that there was no turning back! The coastline became more beautiful, more wild and mysterious, and the further I hiked in, the more unusual were the hikers I encountered. There were more bohemian barefooted hikers hiking or out, though very few. The weather was perfect, and fortunately the trail was dry. Yes, the trail does become more challenging to one's fear of heights between miles 6.5-8. One should only do this hike if one is a strong experienced hiker, is fully alert, not fatigued, and not too afraid of heights, but be sure to have your camera at the ready at all times. Just be sure that if you want to look at something for more than a few seconds, check where your footing is on the trail and then stop to look. If you have a heavy pack, it can be harder to balance in certain situations.
There are several water crossings along the 11 miles, though on the hike back out after some rain I counted at least 18 water crossings of varying flows and widths, all of which were able to be crossed without removing shoes and wading across, though iam sure this can be a whole different ballgame after a heavy rain.
I made it in at about 6:15, just in time to set up my tent and watch a beautiful sunset. I had arrived just days after the massive invasion by the authorities to kick out the illegal film crew and a few loud gun-shooting drunks who were fired from their jobs the next day. I initially encountered a cute topless girl and her boyfriend who were very friendly and helpful about campsite information. Next time I will arrive sooner in the day in order to get a better campsite.
What can I say? A waterfall on the beach, whales breaching the ocean in the distance, eating oranges right off the tree, swimming in the Big Pool (and other pools), witnessing naked AM yoga on the beach, people just doing their thing.
The hike out was a bit more nerve-wracking for me because it had rained enough that some of the trail was slippery, but there was no incident, though at mile 2 I encountered a woman who had apparently sprained her ankle (unfortunately it does happen usually within the first two miles of the trail because many people are inexperienced hikers and wear tennis shoes, flipflops or are out of shape). Once I finished the hike, I called 911 to get her some help. Ironically,I have been working at the ER at Wilcox Memorial Hospital as a travel nurse!
If you are up for the challenge, THIS is one of the best or THE best hike I have done in my 11 years of hiking.
Apr 28, 2008 2:59PM
I am visiting Kauai in June. How do you access the trailhead, and are there any tourguides willing to take just one person the whole 11 miles? I'm not so sure this would be a good solo hike.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 28, 2008 7:59PM
Aloha Jared. Use the links and phone number for the DLNR listed below the photo on this page under "Camping Permits" to get info on permits for hiking and camping. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 28, 2008 8:15PM
Aloha Stef. We always recommend hiking with a buddy and this trail would be no exception. There are no official tour guides for this trail, though I've heard of people hiring an experienced guide, but only through word of mouth, not commercially. It could be worth tuning in with local hostels to see if anyone may be hiking in and you could join them. You can access the trailhead at Kee Beach, at the end of the road on the North shore. Hope this helps. J
NikonDigital
May 01, 2008 10:05AM
Dear all,
I did the Kalalau Trail end of February 2008 and it was a wonderful experience. For preparation I used mainly this site and I am very grateful that it exists.
Thanks to all. I hope that I can pay back a bit with the pictures that I shot. You can find them at: http://nikondigital.zenfolio.com/p203939567/
n.b. btw, because of all my photo gear my rucksack did weigh 30kg (60lb) - this was the only advice ("travel light") that I had to ignore from this site - I hope it was worth it
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 01, 2008 8:10PM
Mahalo! J
May 05, 2008 3:58AM
I have just finished reading the entire forum and found it to be very informative. However I cannot believe some entreprenurial person has not started a shuttle service business from the airport to the trailhead and back!
I would do it but I am not a U.S. citizen. There has to be some local person reading this forum who recognizes an opportunity here.
A shuttle bus that can pick you and your luggage up at the airport. Stops at a shopping centre for stove fuel, supplies and food, then drives you right to the trailhead or the ymca campground. The shuttle service could also arrange the permits and provide storage for extra luggage you may want to store while you are hiking.
Hey wouldn't it be great if this service was up and running by the time my wife and I come in Feb. '09 to hike the trail!
Anyway, we will be staying the max. 5 nights on the trail. I believe in the adage; "If you are going to do something, you may as well do it right the first time".
You just never know when or if you will be back.
Keep up the good work on this site!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 05, 2008 6:52PM
Mahalo Keith!
May 06, 2008 5:12PM
Hi everybody,
I've heard that camping permits for the Na Pali Coast State Park are selling out fast, especially during summer months. Is this true? I am planning to hike the Kalalau trail somewhere begin july 08... (I've already sent an e-mail to the DNLR but i'am not getting any response. Since I'am European, Hawaii office hours are like right in the middle of the night so calling isn't really an option for me. So, can I just print the application form, fill it out and send it in without checking for availability first?)
Thx
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 06, 2008 8:41PM
Aloha Kristof. It's true that summertime is the most popular time of year for camping at Kalalau and permits are limited. Lucky, you, I made a call to the offices to find out what they would suggest in your case. She basically told me that in July there are only permits available for the 6,7,8 & 9. Though she said you should have received an email reply, she recommends you send the application, US currency payment and a copy of your passport to their offices as soon as possible if you want to reserve camping for any of those dates.
Hope this helps. Aloha J.
May 10, 2008 9:17PM
I just did this Hike a few days ago. We did one day in, spent the night in Kalalau and then hiked out the next morning. It is a beautiful place out there, but I only recommend doing it if you have a few more days, it is very strenuous and took a lot of work to hike out first thing the next morning after we had just arrived. Also, make sure you bring a water filter and tablets. Once we got out there our water filter broke and we were forced to drink the stream water. A bunch of people on the trail will tell you that is it ok to drink. DO NOT. Two days after I returned home I was very ill from the "lepto" that can be found in the streams. So my main advice is take your time and bring a couple things to clean your water with.
May 11, 2008 9:13AM
Hey there, the information on this site is great! I'm flying to Lihue on Tuesday and trying to find a ride that's cheaper than the cab fare of $120...i'm "iffy" about hitchhiking solo...can you give me an idea of how safe it is for a 6'3, 200+ lbs. haole boy to hitchhike at night?
Kevin
May 12, 2008 9:19PM
Incredible!!
Things we wish we had thought of but didn't:
1) Hiking poles-with all the up and down, they really should be a requirement for any one doing the trail.
2) Matches for fire- just forgot
My wife and I (27 and 28, respectively) started off from the Haena campgrounds at 0715. We stopped occasionally for water brakes and pictures, and once at Hanakoa to filter water. Otherwise we kept walking while munching on energy bars and arrived at Kalalau Beach 6.5 hours later. The hike was incredible and I would agree that it is every bit as difficult as everyone before has mentioned. The well spoken of portion on the cliff edge was terrifying for me, less so for my wife. Of note, that section was really easy and not as scary on the way back. We had incredible weather. The surf was great as my wife and I are great swimmers and we enjoyed the power of the ocean, although the current was a little to strong to swim to the next beach over. We stayed two nights, woke up on the morning of our departure at 0400, left at 0430 and made it back in 5.75 hours. Our ealy departure was only possible with the use of our headlamps and my trusty Garmin 305 GPS. Otherwise, I certainly would have been worried about taking the wrong turn in the dark.
Our two nights of camping was the end of our vacation after a week stay at the Marriott in Lihue. It was such an incredible end to our adventure as we felt such a strong connection with nature. This hike should be on everyone checklist of must-do experiences if you are able, and I hope to be able to do it again one day.
One other suggestion is to pack as light as possible. We both carried "Day Pack" backpacks and shared the weight of a tent, 2 sleeping pads, and an incredibly light silk sheet. We saw far two many people struggling on the trail with heavy packs. If you really require all the creature comforts of home, by all means bring them along. However, I think you will have a much more enjoyable hike with the least amount of weight possible.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 12, 2008 9:21PM
Aloha John. Mahalo for your comments in the forum. It's true, we highly recommend allowing a few days to enjoy Kalalau before hiking back out. And yes, treat all drinking water. You can be at risk of contracting various illnesses by drinking from the stream. "Lepto" or leptospirosis is extremely serious. Hopefully you are mistaking a stomach virus for this dangerous disease. If you think you have lepto you need to seek medical attention immediately. Here is a link to a PDF with information about this bacteria with contact numbers if you have questions. All hikers should be familiar with this info. http://hawaii.gov/health/about/reports/leptobrochure.pdf. J
Kevin
May 12, 2008 9:22PM
One more comment...please do not go into the Kalalau valley more than 0.25 to 0.5 miles. We got hopelessly lost with all the trails up there. There are a few larger type pools. If you are really into that, I would try hiking in there with someone who knows where they are going. I would suggest hiking in until you find some Guavas to munch on and enjoy and then head back to the beautiful beach.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 12, 2008 9:54PM
Aloha Andrew. Though people hitch hike on Kauai - it's technically legal - it is not advised, especially at night, regardless of whether you're male or female, large or small. We recommend finding another mode of transportation once you arrive. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 12, 2008 9:58PM
Thanks for your comments Kevin! So great to hear the follow up from hikers after their experiences. Echoed again and again: pack light! Glad you had a memorable experience. J
May 14, 2008 3:27AM
hi, my friend and i are trying to get permits to hike the Kalalua trail the first week in august. we live in FL and have called the DLNR a couple of times but get different stories about permits. One time it was that there were permits availabe starting june 31 but we had to come in person to get them (ya, so how would we do that?) and the other was they were not giving permits out for those dates. Do you have any suggestions in trying to get permits? And, BTW, what is the penalty for getting caught without a permit?
May 14, 2008 5:29PM
I?m an experienced backpacker from the NW, but I have never been confronted with such difficult logistics on how to get from the airport to trailhead. Too bad YMCA wont let you park at their place anymore; that would have made it pretty easy. So how do you get to the trailhead, without having to park your car there? I guess a taxi might be the only route right now?getting the taxi to show up to take you back to the airport is a concern. Does the trailhead have cell phone coverage?
Oh and thanks for taking the time to answer questions on this great site.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 14, 2008 8:52PM
Aloha. Summertime is a very busy time of year for Kalalau and permits are taken up quickly. Your best bet may be to call once more and find out what dates are available in the summer and then reserve them by sending in your application and payment. Camping without a permit can result in a fine and an encounter with a perturbed enforcement officer - not advised. J
May 17, 2008 3:08AM
My husband and I are hiking the trail this weekend. Is the vog terribly bad out there?
May 17, 2008 5:26PM
We were lucky enough to get permits to camp at Kalalau for one night in early September, but no campsite map was provided. Where exactly do people camp there? Are there designated areas? Anywhere along the beach, away from the cliff face and the shoreline, of course? Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 18, 2008 4:53AM
Tanya - I hiked Hanakapiai today and the air was hot, heavy. Very strange hiking Na Pali with this haze (the thickest I have experienced in 30 years). Trades returning tomorrow! W
May 19, 2008 12:16AM
I'm planning to hike the whole Kalalau Trail in June. I'm planning on using a shuttle service on the island to get to and from the trail head from Lihue, but was hoping to be able to camp at the trail head the night before starting my hike to allow for an early start. What's the closest place I can camp to the trail head? If I were to stay in Hanalei or nearby how could I get to the trailhead early?
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 19, 2008 6:50PM
Aloha Jeanna. The closest camping area to the trailhead is Haena Beach Park, about 1-2 miles from the trail head. This area is north of Hanalei. Check out our beach page about Tunnels for an overview. You're smart to get on the trail early. We'd really appreciate any info on the shuttle service, as it seems to be a big topic on the forum lately. Have a great time! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 19, 2008 6:53PM
Aloha JerseyHiker. Camping is on a flat bluff just above the beach in the midst of many trees. The sites are pretty obvious once you get there. They have recently closed some sites due to hazardous condtions. You can check out the article about this on our Kalalau page- the link is under the photo called "campsite closure". Have a great time in the valley. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 19, 2008 7:44PM
Hi Grizzly Greg. It has become apparent on this forum, that many are experiencing your same dilema. One user has found a shuttle service and I've requested she give some feedback on her experience for our users. A cab or bus ride from the airport may be your best bet. I've also suggested tuning in with the hostels in Kapaa, though I don't know if that has helped. The trailhead does not have solid cell phone reception but there is a payphone. Plan on using a calling card, as the coin intake is dodgey on the phone there. Thanks for your feedback! Enjoy the trail. It's so worth it. J
May 21, 2008 3:00AM
I'd like to share my experience about getting to the trail head and spending a night before the hike...
We hiked this April and found people in Kapaa who were heading there as well, so they gave us a ride right to Kee beach.
We spend a night on Kee beach, right under the first big tree, in 50 meters from the trailhead, and next morning we started our hike. I think that's the best way to do it - spend a night on Kee beach, because you don't have to go to the trail head - it's right there. It is of course ILLEGAL though (as far as I know)... :)
BUT. If you do like we did - come there around 9pm when it's dark, nobody's gonna be there (except similar Kalalau hikers), so you can easily set up a tent anywhere you like. This is the very end of the road, so nobody's gonna check illegal camping at that time of the day. If you arrive early, there'll be a lot of people on the beach, and probably ranger's car; so basically just have fun in the ocean and wait until it's dark and everybody's gone.
On our way back, we simply hitchhiked again - the first car we saw stopped and nice people gave us a ride right to Kapaa - almost to the door of our hotel that we had reservation in.
From our experience I can say that there's no problem with hitchhiking in Kauai - we did that many times.
May 21, 2008 11:39AM
My fiance and I will be visiting Hawaii for our honeymoon at the end of October, and are looking forward to hiking the entire trail. I've read this forum and it seems that the only way to hike the entire trail, is to go IN and OUT. Is there not a way to leave the car at the end of the trail, shuttle or cab it to the top and then just go one way??? If not, do you think it would be possible, to have a cab drop us off at the top, and then we ask them to meet us at the end at a certain time?? Curious to know what if any creative option we have to do it just one way. We are short on time, but would really love to have the experiance of hiking the entire trail. Thank you
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 21, 2008 7:33PM
Aloha Paty. Check out the Kauai Trail Navigator Map on this page and you'll see that the Na Pali Coast does not have a road. The highway ends on either side of this coastline, so the trail to Kalalau Valley is one way. The only way out is to hike back out the way you came. There has been much discussion about ways of getting to the trailhead and for now the options seem to be cab, bus or a lift from a friend.
This is an extremely challenging hike that will take most of the day and good preparation. We suggest allowing at least a few days in the Valley. Definitely not a trek to take if you're in a hurry. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 21, 2008 7:38PM
In honor of keeping an open forum, we're posting these comments. However, it is illegal to camp at Kee Beach and the facilities do not support camping at this location. Haena Beach Park is available for camping and is only 1-2 miles from the trailhead.
As for hitchhiking, it is technically legal and many do it, but it's not recommended.
Thanks for taking time to add more feedback to the forum, Alexander. J
May 21, 2008 11:58PM
Thanks for posting my comments.
I'm aware that camping at Kee is illegal, just I wanted to share my experience with others, so they can act on their on risk.
One other important thing about camping there is that there's NO fresh water at Kee, so keep this in mind.
May 22, 2008 1:00AM
The haze in the air is vog from Kilauea on the Big Island. The Kona winds bring the to vog to Kauai and the trade winds blow it away. The volcano has been releasing a lot more sulfur dioxide, haze and other particulate matter into the air lately.
May 23, 2008 4:01PM
I tried to do this trail a few years ago but it was pouring rain and we turned around at about 6 miles. I fear heights and think I wouldn't be able to make the part of the trail with the handholds in the rocks. Is there someone who provides an excursion - like a kayak or zodiac that can take us in and let us camp a few days and take us back? Definitely on the list of things to do before I die.... just don't want to die doing it :>) Thanks for any help - great site!
May 25, 2008 8:04PM
What do you guys recommend as far as water treatment goes? Iodine tabs? Chlorine tabs? There seem to be a few other products available too. I'm familiar with the severity of lepto and definitely want to take the right precautions. Thanks
May 26, 2008 3:01PM
Have a few more questions. I think I read on the site somewhere that the highest point on the trail is 1200ft, is that true? What is the water situation in september normally? I realize it´s the dry season but is there enough water to filter/and or treat along the way in order to stay hydrated in september. In the "dangerous" cliff areas are there drop offs on both sides or one side. Thanks
May 26, 2008 5:11PM
Awesome site! We will be on Kauai in three weeks and will be doing a day hike to Hanakapiai. We will likely take the additional 2 miles to the falls. How accessible are the falls? Can you get pretty close? It looked like from some pictures that I saw that there is a pool of water at the base of the falls. Is it safe for swimming?
May 27, 2008 3:53AM
Just came home tonight from a wonderful seven-day trip to the island. My wife and I spent Wed, Thurs and Friday at Kalalau Beach and had some tremendous experiences and met some very cool people. I got plenty of photos and video, particularly shots of the trail and the notorious \"cliffy\" portions, which I hope to post on youtube this week.
There are many, many things I could recommend to folks considering this amazing trek-- nothing new, just the same things that more experienced hikers have already offered here, but stuff that begs repeating:
1) This has been said dozens of times before on this forum, but DO NOT bring a pack heavier than 30 lbs, regardless of whether you think you\'re in shape or not. I would think 20 lbs max would actually be best if you\'re going the distance and plan on staying a few days. Of course i say this, because like a fool i disregarded that counsel and paid dearly! If i was not a thoroughly fit, distance runner my headstone might\'ve been somewhere up around mile six. Sierra Club rates the trail a nine. I say that\'s accurate provided you are packing extremely light. But pack over 40-50lbs in the summer and this trail is EASILY a 10 in my opinion!
2) For those hiking the distance to kalalau beach be careful at mile two that you dont inadvertedly pull left to Hanakapi?ai Falls at the compost toilet. This is an embarassing admission, but my wife and I were having so much fun, talking and getting into a good rhythm that we veered off and went all the way to the falls. THIS ADDED FOUR ROUGH MILES TO OUR ALREADY RUGGED 11-MILE TREK!!! Unless you\'re game for a one-day, 15-mile jaunt (which we ended up doing unfortunately) go slowly at mile-two and look at the signs.
3) There is a point soon after mile eight that my wife and i got off the trail briefly and it was a nightmare. I believe this is fairly common because once we got to Kalalau Beach we met two other people who made the exact same mistake. All I remember is after a fairly wide, rocky area on a bluff overlooking the water, there\'s a path that is well-worn that cuts back inside, with black dirt. This is a hazardous detour. You have to travel along a VERY sketchy, sloping, narrow path that at one point moves precariously around a large rock. This was easily the most perilous and unnerving portion of the journey and my instincts told me something wasnt right. One wrong move here could be tragic and there\'s virtually nothing to grab onto if you start sliding. The ACTUAL trail is behind you, back at the bluff and moving upwards on a higher ridge.
4) The last thing I\'ll add is the importance of using really good shoes on the trail. My wife and I both had brand name hiking shoes/boots. My wife\'s boots (about a year old, but never offcially hiked in) completely fell apart about 4 miles in. My swoosh brand hiking shoes did the same about six miles in, Mine was catastrophic (the right sole just peeled off like a banana, followed by the left one) and caused us to almost abort the mission. A man I know only as \"Mango Wine\" Tom, who lives out there, came and sat with us, saw my dillemma and traded me shoes on the spot. I offered cash for his boots but he flat-out refused. A real good samaritan. I walked the rest of my jorney to Kalalau Beach in Tom\'s size 10 1/2 tattered boots. He slogged his way out to the trailhead in my dilapidated shoes, held together with nothing but shoelaces. My eyes were filled with tears of gratitude. Thank you brother!
Amazing time on the beach at Kalalau. Worth every drop of blood, sweat and tears. The only thing that eclipses the beauty of that place is the vibes from other travelers whose paths you cross. Thanks to Jamie & Kerr, Jamie & Jason, Myron and Dean & Wynona for good times, laughs and friendship.
Thanks also to the moderators of this site. What a fantastic resource for people contemplating this and other hikes on Kauai. Great job!
Pax!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 27, 2008 4:07PM
Hi Nancy. Definitely a challenging trail. An online search for kayak companies offering tours of the Na Pali will connect you with about 4 companies that take people down the coast. Some of them also offer guided excursions to Kalalau. They can give you details. Summer is the only time this is available, due to ocean conditions. Aloha. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 27, 2008 4:11PM
Mahalo Greg. Thanks for repeating some critical points and adding some new ones. Glad you had an incredible time in Kalalau. Aloha. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 27, 2008 4:47PM
Aloha Randy. The falls do have a large pool at the base, where you will see people swimming. Of course, do so at your own risk and use common sense. The cliffsides are very crumbly and rocks do drop. You can swim under the falls but rocks are slippery here, too. As with anything, stay aware and use common sense. Enjoy. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 27, 2008 5:12PM
Aloha Jennifer. The official recommendation is 'purification' tablets. We don't recommend one kind over another. It's wise to bring a water purifier along as well. Keep in mind that open cuts exposed to contaminated river water can also be dangerous. Use common sense and enjoy your hike! J
May 28, 2008 8:57AM
hey i am a little bit confused about where to send my money and application for the permit for camping. Do I send it to the DLNR in honolulu or in Lihue? I have only been able to find the address for the office in Honolulu.Help?
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 28, 2008 9:12PM
Aloha. The directions for obtaining a permit are pretty clearly spelled out here:
http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/camping/fees.cfm
You can always contact the district office to get further details. It may also serve you to call in advance to find out if the dates you want are available for camping, before you submit your application and payment. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 28, 2008 9:18PM
Aloha. Check out this link for more info about the Kalalau Trail:
http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/hiking/kauai/index.cfm?hike_id=13
It states an elevation gain of 800 ft. The trail is along a cliff, so drop offs are only on one side, when encountered. The rivers run enough year round to be able to access water along the trail - of course, treat it. September tends to be the ending of summer weather, but often still is very warm and a bit more dry than the months that follow. Enjoy your hike. J
May 29, 2008 2:23PM
Just wanted to add a comment on Greg\'s comment #3 about taking a wrong turn around mile 8 just after the river... My wife and I made the same mistake. We were hiking the wrong way for about 100 meters or so and also thought that there\'s something wrong with this trail. It was too dangerous. We hiked around big stone but after that found that this is the false trail. Don\'t go there! It\'s really really dangerous. Much more dangerous than 6.5-8 miles.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 29, 2008 5:22PM
Keeping in mind that you are walking a cliffside trail helps to keep you hugging the coastline rather than going up detours to the valleys on this trail. Another way to know you're on the right path around 8 mile is that not long after the bluff area you will see a stream that can be a bit tricky to cross. If you're crossing that stream, you're on the trail to Kalalau. Aloha. J
May 30, 2008 7:24PM
So glad for your site and all the helpful info! My husband and I plan to hike in and stay a couple of nights the first week of November. I am terrified of heights so I am trying to prep myself for this mug! I was wondering though if we need both hiking and camping permits or just camping? I have called the DLNR and just keep getting the recording which is hard to hear. If u know, correct me if I\'m wrong...Send in a letter of request with the place u want to camp and when, photocopies of all drivers license, money orders for $10 per person per night to DIVISION OF STATE PARKS 3060 Eiwwa Street, Suite 306,Lihu\'e,Hawaii 96766. Do you know if the dates have to be specific or you can just let them know the week you plan to be there and hike?? Also, if they are full, do they just refund your money? If u have any info to help me out, I would TRULY be appreciative. Thanks for helping us crazy tourists plan amazing vacations!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 02, 2008 7:47PM
Hi Heather. Glad you are finding the site helpful. I often get the recording at the Kauai office, but have gotten through to someone at the Honolulu office: (808)587-0300. She was able to tell me right then which dates were available for camping. You're far enough in advance, you may have a much better chance of getting the dates you want. You're hearing the recording message right. I'm not sure how they deal with refunds if the dates you request are not available.
As far as I know, permits include camping. If you hike past Hanakapiai you're going to want to camp because of the distance travelled. Give yourself plenty of time in Kalalau.
Enjoy! J
Jun 03, 2008 1:39PM
Re: the dangerous off-trail diversion after mile 8...
As Alexander said, this section is far more terrifying than anything on the \"cliff\" portion of the actual trail. Fortunately, it\'s a very short detour that ends abruptly. Unfortunately, it is also exceedingly dangerous. I can easily see how exhausted hikers could slip and fall to their doom there. It is an eroded dirt path that looks for all the world like a continuation of the actual trail, at least at the beginning.
It took me about 5-10 mins to get the guts to shimmy around the big rock with my 50lb pack, only to get past it and have the trail end after about 30 meters. My wife and I were overwhelmed with frustration and dread, realizing we were off-trail and that we had to go back around the \"rock of death\" AGAIN! My wife took her time and went back carefully, I on the other hand refused to tempt fate again and chose instead to climb straight up a steep embankment to the real trail, which was about 20ft directly above.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 03, 2008 7:05PM
Sounds scary, Greg. The bluff at 8 mile is a great spot to take a rest. When you're done, just stick to the cliffside trail and follow it over the stream crossing. Even still, crossing the stream can be a bit sketchy because of trail erosion on the other side. I'm glad you made it through alright, but as you experienced, veering from the trail on the crumbling cliff sides can be extremely dangerous, especially with extra weight on your back. J
Jun 03, 2008 9:58PM
I am planning on hiking to Kalalau in late July. I tried to obtain a permit on the days DLNR said they were available but by the time my application was recieved the dates had already been taken. What are the chances I will be caught if I camp without a permit. Also what is the penalty if I do so?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 03, 2008 10:39PM
Hi Joshua. As you know, camping without a permit in Kalalau is illegal, and as with anything, people do it. A crew flies in, periodically, to check for permits and issue tickets. No one knows when they will make a trip in. If you are not in compliance, encounters with officials may not be pleasant. There is a monetary fine and time with Kauai courts and you will be asked to leave immediately. Keep in mind that they close the valley for about 10 days in the summer for a goat hunt. No camping is allowed in Kalalau at this time and you do not want to be there, illegally at that time, especially.
J
Jun 07, 2008 4:17AM
I'm planning to hike Kalalau in a week, where can I get water along the way? I have a filter/purifier pump but am wondering how much water I should keep on me and where I'll be able to refill.
Jun 09, 2008 7:39PM
Aloha travelers. I am a bit puzzled that backpack magazine would publish this sacred spot to the world and envite the world in without really explaining how difficul this trail is and really explaining this isn't a "tourist trap" people have died on this trip and I believe in 2005 a man dissappeared and hasn't been found since. If you do this trip, prepare physically for months and importantly,, as a local that lives in Kauai, enjoy it, keep it a secret and leave without a trace. Mahalo...
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 09, 2008 7:54PM
Aloha Michelle,
Mahalo for your comments to the Kauai Explorer comments forum. Which backpack magazine are you referring to? Kalalau is not only listed in many tour books, it is pictured in many advertisements. Right or wrong, it's not much of a secret and it seems to continue to gain more and more attention.
Our hope with Kauai Explorer is to get accurate information regarding safety and preservation about a sacred place that people are already aware of. We hope with the popular user forum that people can really communicate with each other about this serious and challenging outdoor adventure. Your comments are exactly what we appreciate featuring. Mahalo. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 09, 2008 8:15PM
Aloha Jeanna. Super important to stay hydrated on this trail, so good to think about water while hiking. As you may know, officially, it is advised that you treat water, not just filter it, but many people just filter it. There is a river at Hanakapiai (2 miles in), at Hanakoa (6 miles in), at Pohaku Au (8 mile point) and at Kalalau (11 miles in). When packing your water, keep in mind how heavy it can be and that travelling light on this trail is essential. Enjoy! J
Jun 10, 2008 6:37AM
Helllo, everyone. I read on another site that someone guestimated that with all the ups and downs on this trail you actually end up hiking about 5000 ft in elivation, even thought the highest point is only about 800 to 1000 ft. Does that seem about right to anyonw who has done it? Thanks for the site!
Jun 12, 2008 7:10PM
Mahalo Kauai Explorer Staff for this site! Pretty much all my questions were answered by others and I felt totally prepared. I filled a simple day pack w/ compressed foods and had 4L for H2O. I only needed 2L bottles, @ every ridge I found H2O to filter. BUT there is a misconception by the hippies on the trail that its safe to drink the water sans treatment!! Not safe. I bought the 'Steri-Pen' UV H2O treatment and it worked perfectly. Enough water and fast, no filtering-it retards all virus and bacteria so they r unable to regenerate inside your body. thats cool
Jun 12, 2008 7:43PM
I know several people have had questions about trail altitude gains, I found the following chart on another blog and thought it could be helpful to someone:
http://great-hikes.com/blog/images/KalalauTrail04.gif
Jun 17, 2008 1:57AM
I'm going to be in Kauai on buisness, will only have one day to hike/bike. I'm a strong hiker/biker. 11 miles one way on foot is too far for my one day. What would you suggest?
Jun 17, 2008 5:36AM
Hi, just wondering if there is still an ex-Marine named Bill working on the trail - I met him when I was there last winter and he was so nice - and the trail obviously needs him, so I was just kind of hoping he is still in the area.
Jun 17, 2008 9:29AM
I would like to hike this trail around the end of August with my girlfriend, since she is coming out from Missouri! How hard would it be to get a permit to hike this trail in that amount of time and where would I go to get it?
Thanks and God Bless,
Justin
Jun 17, 2008 3:40PM
Thanks Justin! Exactly what I needed to know. Looks like its less than 3000 ft of incline and decline. That sounds a lot better than 5000! Although the ups and downs look STEEP! But this gives me a better idea on what to be prepared for. Thanks again.
Jun 17, 2008 5:45PM
Great site. We are leaving Seattle tomorrow (Wednesday) and will start our five-day trek on Friday, June 20. We feel pretty well-prepared, thanks in part to info from you folks.
Any last-minute developments we should know about?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 17, 2008 7:15PM
Hi Justin. Check out the links to contact info for getting permits on this Kalalau page under the photo, below the heading "Camping Permits". You may want to try calling both the Oahu office and Kauai office to get info on whether permits are available during your stay. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 17, 2008 7:21PM
Aloha Wendell. If you still want a taste of the Na Pali, you can hike the 8 mile round trip to Hanakapiai Falls. Check out our Hanakapiai page for more info. You'll want to begin this trek first thing in the morning. There are also some rigourous and beautiful hikes in Kokee. Depending on where you're staying on the island will determine how long it will take you to get to the park. This site highlights four Kokee hikes: Pihea, Awaawapuhi, Kukui and Alakai Swamp. Most of these would take almost an entire day. Happy hiking. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 17, 2008 7:50PM
Hi Jason. There has been some work done on the trail, much of which has been done by volunteers like Bill. We've heard he's still around doing good works. Aloha. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 17, 2008 7:53PM
Hi John. Fresh from the trail, an Explorer team member reports that the path is dry and gorgeous. Sounds like the waterfall at Kalalau beach is barely a trickle, so water may need to be retrieved from the river (which you cross before getting to the beach. Have a great trip. J
Jun 18, 2008 1:20AM
Hello Explorer staff! This website has been incredibily helpful in preparing for this hike. Thank you for maintaining it. Thanks to everyone who has hiked it and contributed excellent advice. I leave the June 21st for Kauai and will be on the trail the 26th. I've been looking at the Kauai forcast (Garden Island paper online) and have been seeing thunderstorms in the forcast for next week. I'm concerned about mud, I did the first 2 miles in dry conditions last year. Last year I also did the Pihea trail to the Alakai swamp trail in mud and it wasn't very fun. I'll be camping at Hanakoa the 1st night (with my sister) and continuing to Kalalau the next morning. We have a 5 day permit and are so pumped about Kalalau! I read some campsites are closed at Kalalau and are near the pit toliets. Is this a problem with the amount of campers there?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 18, 2008 7:56AM
Mahalo for the feedback, Julie. The report from hikers this weekend is that the trail is pretty dry. You may encounter some mud, but summer tends to have the driest conditions of the year. If you end up hiking in the rain, remember that flash flooding can occur at the rivers even if it's not raining where you are. Enjoy Kalalau! J
Jun 18, 2008 5:01PM
Great site - thx
Few questions...
When is goat hunting season?
Is there any good snorkeling near Kalalau? Know the riptide can be rough in the winter, but how is it in late July? If not bad, any good areas worth snorkeling in? If a no-go there, any suggestions for day trips on the east side of Kuaui (IE on way back to airport) or near Hilo? More remote/less people, the better...
Also, do you have any recommendations for places to camp nearby the night before hitting the trail that\'s not to far from the trail and easy to find late at night? Even better if there\'s good snorkeling nearby
Lastly - is there a consensus re: transportation from Lihue to trailhead, hitchhiking aside? Cab easiest, but tough to time pickup on the way out, I assume given lack of cell coverage. Any idea of cab cost? Or cost of shuttle services? Or is a rental car for $350 for a few days the easiest way to go?
Thanks again. Much appreciated.
Jun 18, 2008 5:37PM
forgot 2...
Is there any worthwhile fishing in Kalalau? If so, any shops you might suggest speaking to in the area re: bait, etc?
Lastly, are there any boat services who would pick up from Kalalau and drop at Polihale? Assume a charter is needed for this - if so, would you have any suggestions as to who to contact?
Thank you again
Jun 20, 2008 3:28AM
It is probably one of the most amazing hikes one can do. I stayed in Lihue and drove up in the morning of June 2 (5.15am) and started walking at 6.20am and did the return trip in one day i.e 9.5 hours of walking and got back to Kee Beach at 5.25pm leaving enough time to have a nice dinner back in Lihue. This is a tough return walk and I would only attempt it if you have a solid endurance background.
Jun 22, 2008 9:28AM
My wife and I are looking at hiking the trail next month. We are both in shape and have hiked for many years in the Northeastern section of the US. We are considering hiking the 11 mi trip IN/OUT (22 mi) in one day but not sure of a few things.
1. What a good extimate for time departure and return??
2. Do we need a permit if we are not camping?
3. Do we need to bring gaitors for our boots?
4. Is there a lot of traffic on the trail?
Thanks in advance!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 23, 2008 7:04AM
Aloha Evan. As an avid hiker who has hiked this trail for years, I will tell you, absolutely, do not plan to hike in and out in one day. This trail is strenuous for even the best of hikers and besides, once you see Kalalau, you will be very disappointed you did not prepare to stay at least one night. No matter how far you decide to hike, this trail is best begun as early as possible, mostly due to the heat factor. You do not need gaitors for your boots. There is "a lot" of traffic on the first 2 miles of the trail to Hanakapiai and it then thins out dramatically. This is one hiking experience not to rush through. Aloha. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 23, 2008 7:29AM
JWC, don't bother fishing from the shore at Kalalau. If you want a local shop where you can get fishing supplies and info, go to the Lihue Fishing Supply. You can possibly connect with kayak companies about potentially helping you get to Polihale from Kalalau, though there may be permitting issues we're unaware of. An online search for kayaking Na Pali will show you the local companies that take folks out on tours. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 23, 2008 7:35AM
Goat hunt is in August. No snorkeling at Kalalau. Ocean conditions are the most mild in summer but extreme caution should be used at Kalalau year round. Hilo is on the Big Island, not Kauai. No remote snorkeling near airport area. Haena Beach Park is the closest camping area to the Kalalau trail, right next to the road. Other folks in this forum have connected with a tour company on Kauai that does offer rides to the trailhead. We don't recommend any company, but it may be worth checking out. J
Jun 24, 2008 10:53AM
hi everyone!
just wanted to share some photos from our Kalalau hike this April.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/achopenko/sets/72157605674256321/
(There are some photos of narrow steep places between mile 6.5-8 if somebody is still afraid of it :) )
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 24, 2008 6:56PM
Mahalo for sharing, Alexander. J
Jun 28, 2008 12:16AM
First of all, thank you for this web site. You do a great job with all the information!
I live in Hawaii (on Oahu) and started planning my Kalalau trip a few months ago. Ever since I was a teen in the 70\'s and hearing about Taylor camp, I have wanted to experience Kalalau and the NaPali coast. My dream came true this week as we started out on June 23, and came back yesterday, June 26. I have to tell you, this is a trail that will delight, fill you with a sense of place as well as challange you! Please use extream caution on the entire trail. I read about the \"cliffy\" section over and over, this is actually one of the most stable areas of the whole trail since it is on rock ground. Other areas of the trail are on loose dirt, that is what you should be most cautious of!
On thing I would like to remind everyone of that is planning on doing this hike is that this area is to be respected. By that I mean this palce is old, it has ruins of old villages and heiau (Hawaiian alters). Please be mindful of this when passing through this trail and give proper respect(you are lucky to experience this). I also encountered a few hikers who thought they were still in \"the city\" crowding fellow hikers space and on their heels for long periods of the trail. Please be mindful of other\'s space.
If you are lucky enough to do this hike you will not be let down!
Jun 29, 2008 3:15AM
Hello- Is there a shuttle to the kalalau trailhead? I'm from Oahu but don't have friends or family on kauai to shuttle us out there. It would be great if you could let me know! Aloha, Tara.
Jun 30, 2008 5:28PM
Can this trail be done in one day? I have hiked the halfdome trail in yosemite many time with no problems. I know I can hike 22 miles in one day, but hte question is can this trail be hiked in one day?
Thanks
Jul 01, 2008 8:26PM
Thanks for the great site! I am looking for further details about camping Na Pali, are there guide books detailing regultaions? In Canada we have fire bans frequently even for cooking fires. Are fires banned at any times and how is the information posted?
Is there a book you could recommend for food we could forage for?
Thanks in advance for your answers. We are to hike/camp Nov 21-29/08
Jul 01, 2008 10:46PM
John: You can hike the trail in one day, but it would be a real waste if you did, and would just be plain hard. The beach at the end is worth several days - its really a piece of paradise not to be missed. There are spots on this trail where you are going about an hour per mile. Also, you need to be looking down at your feet for much of it due to the terrain -- therefore, you have to stop and look out and see the scenery. You'll want to add some time for that. If you have the opportunity to come back and do the trail when you want, then by all means go for the fitness challenge -- it just depends on what your goal is.
Jul 03, 2008 11:31AM
I just got back from spending two nights on the trail. Wow, what a beautiful place! My only regret is that I didn\'t stay for longer. I got to do most of what I wanted, but I didn\'t have enough time or energy to go exploring up into the Kalalau Valley, and I didn\'t read the book \"On the Na Pali Coast\" by Kathy Valier. It\'s quick and informative read that points out some plants and history to check out on the trail.
This message board was a huge resource in preparing for my trip. I know there seems to be some longstanding concerns that everyone keeps mentioning (cliffy section, where to park...), so I\'d like to offer my experience.
Buying fuel canisters for stoves like Jetboil, MSR Pocket Rocket, Giga Power: Pedal Paddle in Halalei sells the large size but a short walk up the street (towards Lihue), Kayak Kauai also sells them. Kayak Kaua\'i, however, sells much more camping equipment than Pedal Paddle. Go to Hanalei to buy fuel before the day of your hike. White gas is probably available at any Kmart/Walmart/Ace Hardware.
Where to leave your rental car: Kayak Kauai will let you leave your car in their parking lot (in Hanalei) for $10/night. They should also be able to drive you to the trailhead by 7:30am for $10/person. If you are in decent shape and hike somewhat regularly, I think a 7:30 start would be fine for doing the whole hike in one day. If you\'re a slow hiker, I\'d recommend taking a taxi from Kayak Kaua\'i (or wherever) to get at the trailhead by first light. End of June seems like between 5:30 and 6 would be perfect. Better to get more miles out of the way while the day is still cool. If Kayak Kaua\'i is driving you from their shop to the trailhead, you\'ll probably be able to buy isobutane canister fuel the morning of.
The \"cliffy\" section between mile 7 & 8: No problem. Bill is doing an excellent job of maintence and there is plenty of foot room. Still, this area should not be dismissed too quickly. If one were to fall down the side while wearing a large pack, that would pretty much be that since you probably wouldn\'t be able to stop yourself from tumbling all they way down.
Water: Obviously there\'s the leptosporosis to be concerned about. I would recommend a carrying capacity of 2 liters per person. Between mile 2 and mile 6, there was only one small area of trickling water (around mile 4?). If you decide to pass up on refilling at the trickle (if it\'s even still there for the rest of the summer), you\'ll appreciate filling up 2 liters at Hanakapi\'ai. Other than at Hanakapi\'ai, you probably could get away with only filling up 1 liter at each river crossing (Hanakoa, mile 8, Kalalau), but a little extra is always nice to have.
What to pack: Keep it light. I can\'t imagine anyone would need a sleeping bag. An insulating sleeping pad, long underwear, warm hat, and something to stop the breeze from blowing heat away like a light tent, bivy or tarp pitched to the ground in spots should work fine. There are creepy crawlies, so many people will probably prefer the protection of a tent with floor and bugscreen, but I had no problems sleeping on just a pad under a tarp. Mosquitoes are a problem at Hanakoa, though.
Trekking poles, staff, or a sturdy walking stick will make all the steep ups and down much easier on your legs/knees.
Footwear: The terrain will tear the soles off of cheap shoes. I\'d recommend a very breathable pair of quality trail running shoes. Also, bring moleskin or something that to keep blisters from forming. Extra socks helps, too.
The official camping sites are at Hanakoa (mile 6) and the end of the trail at Kalalau Beach (mile 11). If for whatever reason, you\'re somewhere in between the two and you won\'t make it, there is plenty of level ground near the helicopter pad at mile 8. There is also water just beyond this point. When I went in june, sunset was around 7:30 and by 8:30 it was too dark to hike without a flashlight (moon wasn\'t up yet).
Most of the folks that start on the trailhead are only going to hanakapi\'ai beach or the falls. After that beach, trail traffic thins way down. By the way, going to Hanakapi\'ai falls for the day isn\'t an easy day hike for someone who doesn\'t hike. It\'s a total of 8 miles and the last mile to the falls is pretty much just on slippery rocks. I saw too many people who hadn\'t brought enough water or anything to snack on. But I suppose if you don\'t mind eating mangoes...
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 03, 2008 8:12PM
Mahalo for the feedback! You are right - this truly is sacred ground and deserves the utmost respect. Be prepared, take your time and you will receive the gift of this special place. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 03, 2008 8:18PM
Aloha Tara. This Kalalau page on the site is sponsored by a company that offers rides to the trailhead (see their link on the trail sign next to the camping permit section). Explorer does not recommend any business but we do encourage users of the site to support its sponsors. You can contribute to keeping Kauai Explorer going by letting our sponsors know how you heard about them. Mahalo! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 03, 2008 8:37PM
Aloha. Thanks for the feedback. When you get your camping permits, you'll be briefed on regulations. Basic fire protocol should always be followed and only in designated camp spots. Do not intend on foraging for food in Kalalau. Come completely prepared with all necessary sustenance. You may stumble across wild guava (usually no mangos in winter) but there is no food there that you can rely on for a meal (though campers often come together potluck style with the food they've hiked in). Enjoy. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 03, 2008 9:10PM
Aloha Jed. Mahalo for your feedback.
For users on this forum, keep in mind that everyone's experience is different.
Many people may want a sleeping bag, especially in the cooler winter months. Mangos are usually only dropping in summer (and can not be relied on as a food source any time of year). Moleskin is an excellent item to bring on the trail. Yes, camping is by permit only at mile 6 and Kalalau. Yes, there is flat ground at 8 mile and people may need to sleep here in an emergency, but camping at this spot is illegal and there are no facilities to accommodate campers. Camping here can have an adverse effect on the fragile ecosystem.
The sponsor of this Kalalau page also offers rides to the trailhead.
Thanks for sharing your experience Jed!
As you can see, it continues to be reiterated: pack light and start early on this trail. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 03, 2008 9:24PM
Aloha John. Sorry for the delay in a reply, for some reason my response didn't post. This is a critical question. This trail is not to be done in one day. The factor of daylight is fundamental, as it would take no less than 10 hours to complete the trip, if you did not stop and carried no weight. This trail is to be done slowly, as it traverses dangerous cliffs. Once you get to Kalalau, you'll understand why it would be crazy to simply turn around and try to make it back by nightfall (which would be nearly impossible). This is one trail not to be rushed. It could be life-threatening to do so, even for the most experienced hiker. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 03, 2008 9:28PM
Mahalo for your feedback. We agree with everything you posted, Sparky, except that we say this trail cannot be done in one day and still have daylight. Do not try to hike this trail, roundtrip, in a day. J
Jul 05, 2008 7:02PM
I'll echo many of the other posts here to say what a fabulous resource you have provided here. My wife and I hiked the trail in 2003 (to Kalalau in one day - highly recommended), fell in love with Kalalau (but didn\'t spend near enough time there), and are planning on hiking again in a few weeks. However, our trip this year is not as well planned and we are still working on permits. Fingers crossed and hopefully it is not too late. If we make it on the trail, I\'ll be happy to post an update when we return. Aloha.
Jul 06, 2008 11:04AM
Question on Waimakemake Falls (a.k.a. Davis Falls) located in Kalalau Valley. I can't find much information about this on the web, and my trail book briefly alludes to it, yet it sounds intriguing enough. Is it worth the 1,500-ft elevation gain hike up the valley to it? My buddies and I will be camping at Kalalau in a few weeks.
Jul 06, 2008 11:09AM
Another quick question: On the Kauai bus website, there is a clause about the prohibition of "oversized backpacks." Does anyone know of problems backpackers have had riding the bus from Lihue airport to Hanalei enroute to Na Pali/Kalalau trail? I don't want to wind up being denied entry on the bus and have to find other means of transport, arriving late at the trailhead.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 07, 2008 8:20PM
Hi Chris. Mahalo for the comments. We'll add that hiking the trail in one day is not recommended for everyone. Depending on the weight you're carrying and your physical condition, camping at Hanakoa, halfway in, is the best choice for some. Aloha! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 07, 2008 8:26PM
Aloha. This waterfall does not have an official trail leading to it. We know of people that have followed goat trails to this area, though it was dangerous at many spots. For preservation and safety reasons in this fragile ecosystem, it is not recommended to travel off the main trails. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 07, 2008 8:30PM
Aloha. You'll notice on the Kauai Bus site that they give measurements for carry on items. If your pack is larger than those measurements, then you may have a problem. If you don't take the bus, we know of at least one company (besides a cab service) that offers rides to the trailhead. They sponsor this Kalalau page. J
Jul 10, 2008 8:13PM
Hello to Kauai Explorer, your site has been indispensable as a resource and guide! And Mahalo to Teresa and the DLNR in Honolulu for coming through with my permit - I was afraid after reading all the horror stories about the permit process, but there is hope after all!
I will be on the trail in mid-August for three nights. I'm sure I won't have much trouble finding great trails while I'm there, but my question is if you can suggest some good day trips inland from the Kalalau camp site? I don't want to miss out on any spots, maybe even some secret spots if they exist? Something that really captures the spirit of the place? If you would rather send directly to me, my email address is dbrusser@gmail.com or I'll check this site for your reply.
Thanks and mahalo!
Jul 10, 2008 11:57PM
Should you take the Dept. of Land and Natural Resources serious when it comes to the Na Pali? HAHAHA! The Governor does not seem to think so. She just announced $1.2 million to rebuild the first 2 miles of the trail and the DLNR does not get a penny. Why? Because the state knows the DLNR is a joke on Kauai and has never maintained the trail, leading to the death and disappearance of many poor souls. That IS negligence plain and simple. So the state is going to hire a private company to do the DLNR\'s job! I love this! Save your money on permits. Take a chance you won\'t run into one of the freak commando rangers they send in there to harass the peaceful residents. Live free as an outlaw. Use the permit money to bring supplies to the volunteers like BILL who are actually making the trail better and safer for all. Or just donate to a charity on Kauai.
Oh yeah and this propaganda the DLNR is pushing that long term campers litter is a laugh as well. I lived back up in there for 3 months and never saw a single ranger pick up a single piece of trash. Rather, it was the \'outlaws\' that I witnessed collect at least a dozen trash bags full of crap that tourist hikers left behind while rangers sat at their station playing cards. Remember, this trail is going to kick your butt no matter what bra! The tourists, exhausted, usually leave all of their useless walmart camping equipment behind before they hike out. Don\'t be one of them. I repeat, it is not the \'outlaws\' littering! They worship that valley and would never disrespect the Menehune spirits out there with garbage. They live Pono with the Aina. Tourists... no respect. I saw a grown women once so beat by the hike that when she got to the Kalalau river she dropped her HUGE pack, popped a squat right on the trail, 10 feet from the river and started urinating. I witnessed this because I was swimming in the river directly down stream from her. AAHHGG! Lets just say I gave her a little piece of my mind when she was done.
Good luck to all who make it out there. It truly is paradise... so have some respect and hike out what you brought in. Don\'t wash in the river with harmful soaps, don\'t relieve yourself within 100\' of any water sources, and report any violent or belligerent individuals you meet to some of the friendly native guys living out there. They will know how to take care of any problems you may run into, while the DLNR spends permit dollars on their toy helicopter fly overs. Just my opinion though... peace!
P.S. Some of the DLNR rangers on Kauai are great human beings... and then there are the storm troopers, I hope you never meet one.
Jul 12, 2008 4:38PM
Great Website!! My family is vacationing in late Aug thru Lador Day. We haven't done any hiking at all, but would like to try something new, nothing too hard but with a little of a challenge. I have 2 daughters, ages 13 and 7. Which of your trails would you recommend? Mahalo
Jul 13, 2008 8:12PM
Aloha! My sister and I only did half of this trail as we packed WAY to much. We should have listened to others on this post board, we had close to 40lbs each, should have had half as much. We met Jed both before and on the hike. Heed his advice. We decided not to continue past Hanakoa due to the balance issue of heavy packs on "the cliffs" at mile 7. We also met Bill and many others passing through both directions on the trail. Even though we didn't make it to Kalalau, this trail was an incredible experience and all the people we met past mile 2 were generous and very kind. Thanks again for this message board, it is by far, the best advice for this hike.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 15, 2008 9:24PM
Aloha Daniel. Mahalo for the feedback. The trails that meander through Kalalau valley are not named, per say. Half of the adventure is seeing where they lead. Fellow campers may also be able to give you tips while you're there. Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 15, 2008 9:39PM
Aloha Wallace. Thanks for the feedback. With not a lot of hiking experience, you may want to just check out the Kauai Path from Kealia to Lihi Boat Ramp or the section of this path at Lydgate (this is highlighted on our Trails page). You can also rent bikes in Kapaa to ride the path. For another moderate walk, check out the Mahaulepu Trail that walks the South side coastline (also featured on this site). Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 15, 2008 9:53PM
Aloha Julie. Thanks for taking time to post this for future hikers. Sorry you didn't make it to Kalalau but we're glad you used common sense - that could have saved a severe accident. We'll say it again, WEIGHT will make or break this hike, even for the strongest hikers. Hopefully, you'll have a chance to make it all the way next time. J
Jul 15, 2008 9:56PM
Is it possible to arrange for a boat ride back to Ke\'e beach if we only want to hike one-way the full 11 miles from Ke\'e beach to Kalalau Beach?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 15, 2008 10:29PM
Hi Debbie. You may want to check in with local kayak companies that sometimes offer pick up services for Kalalau campers. We don't know the specifics of what they provide, but they should be able to give you more info on options. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 15, 2008 10:35PM
Mahalo for the comments. Though we don't necessarily agree with all points in this post, we support this forum as a place for many viewpoints and experiences. Thanks for the reminders of how to tread lightly. J
Jul 18, 2008 10:02AM
I hiked this trail in one day!!! It can be done. If you are a fit hiker this trail is no problem. Best way to impress the locals. (It does freak them out, when you tell them that you did it in a day, I went on a NaPali catamaran cruise afterwards and told the Capt we hiked it and he flipped!!! It is long, with many ups and downs. Bring lots of water, my brother drank 12 liters!!! Stash bottles on the trail side for the return trip. There are lots of goats and pigs on the trail, so you need to clean the water if you drink out of a stream. A Steripen UV sterilzer works great, I drank liters of creek water, decontaminated with the pen and no lepto!!! Eat a good meal the night before and in the morning, be on the trail by 6:00 am and you will be back by 7:30 pm. Don't hang out too long in Kalalua (treat it like the everest summit). The trail trolls are interesting (check mile 8 hut resident!!!) This is the most beautiful and challenging day hike in the world DO IT!!!!!!! you won't regret it!!!
Kauai Rules!!!!
Jul 18, 2008 5:56PM
hate to sound lame, but how common are the creepy crawlies when camping out at Kalalau? I live here in Kauai so I know there's a lot of insects, but I am usually seeing them from inside my windows at night or when I am digging up dirt. When I went out to Hanakapiai, I did see a medium centipede on the trail but I am imagining all sorts of people camping attracting lots of giant roaches that will run over my unsuspecting feet at night. Am I being phobically paranoid?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 21, 2008 8:26PM
Thanks for the comments John. Many people do hike this trail in a day, though weight and the hikers level of physical fitness are major factors in how challenging it will be. It is a beautiful hike, though it is not recommended for everyone. The official word on purifying drinking water is to treat it or boil it. Though many people only use a filter, they do so at their own risk. Aloha. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 21, 2008 8:37PM
Aloha CS. If you live on Kauai, you know that "creepy crawlies" are part of the life here. I have found that the summer often has more flies and roaches crawling about the camping areas in Kalalau. A combo of more people and warmer weather, I suspect. In terms of centipedes, your chances of encountering them in the Valley is the same as if you were camping anywhere. Generally, pretty rare. Should you get bit, fresh noni, green papaya or urine are all remedies to help alleviate the pain. J
Jul 27, 2008 9:37PM
We are hiking into Kalalau for a 3 night stay in August. Any advice on how rainy it will be. Or what time of year to avoid this trail due to rain?
Also could you reccommend some good plant guides for the island and trail and good places to get them?
Jul 28, 2008 3:14AM
Aloha,I have hiked the whole waimea canyon hike,down in and back up in 2 days.am I ready for Kalalau?44yrs old,power walk 4.5 miles every day.
is there a way to bypass mile 6.5 to 8?
a little afraid of heights...does permitt have a limit of nights,can I stay a week?Mahalo so much.....
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 28, 2008 7:56PM
Aloha Heather. August tends to be a drier month, though July has been rainier than usual this year. The Na Pali is typically the most wet during the winter. The further you go on the trail, the drier it is, generally speaking.
As for plants, check out the experts at the National Tropical Botanical Gardens. This link will take you to an online resource about the plants. Scroll down to their Gift Shop link and you'll find a Books and Media area that lists their recommendations.
http://ntbg.org/plants/
Enjoy your hike! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 28, 2008 8:02PM
Aloha Kawika. Is anyone ready for Kalalau, really? Kidding aside, we can't tell you if you're ready, but it sounds like you're getting a good dose of incline/decline hiking, which is what the trail does for the entire 11 miles. As you can see in the posts the main ways you can make this trail 'doable' is by starting early, packing light and staying hydrated. There is no way to bypass sections of the trail. Any attempts to go around this section could be life-threatening. Never veer from the trail. Go slow, have solid footwear and take it one step at a time. Permits are issued for a maximum of 5 consecutive nights. Enjoy! J
Jul 29, 2008 1:55PM
My husband and I are planning to hike the Kalalau Trail as part of our 10th anniversary trip this year. We are not set on a specific date and wonder which of the following months are generally the best bet as far as weather goes -October, November, January, February or March? I've also heard that much of the beach disappears during the winter. Is this true?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 29, 2008 7:33PM
Aloha Kim. Weather is hard to predict, but generally Kauai is the most rainy and cold in the winter months into Spring. October may be the driest, though that is just a guess. The beach can narrow during the high surf of winter, but there is always some significant sand there. Just be very careful with the ocean conditions, year round, as this beach is dangerous for swimming and help is a long way off. Enjoy! J
Jul 30, 2008 12:36AM
My friend and I were there from July 5-9. We spent the first night at Hanakoa which was a good call for us. We also took the bus to Hanalei with our packs. This website had me worried about the cliffs from mile 6.5-8, but we were fine. No problems. Something that we were suprised by at the end was that the local airline took away our stove, despite the fact that there was no fuel attached. They said that this is what they were doing and produced documentation to prove it. Funny how we were able to get it from CA to HNL and to Kauai before they took it away. We had to have some friends pick it up and mail it back for us. We met a couple out there that was burning kukui nuts for fuel - this would certainly be a lighter way to travel as they are in abundance out there. All in all, a great trip. It was hard and challenging - so pack light.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 30, 2008 6:56PM
Thanks for the comments, Jennifer. Glad you had a great time. We'd advise checking out the Kauai bus website or our Ebook to get the dimensions for packs on the bus. There are restrictions, we wouldn't want hikers to get caught with a pack that's too large and no ride. Good info on the airlines. Aloha. J
Jul 30, 2008 8:18PM
Mahalo for maintaining this informative web site. My daughter will be turning 40 this year and I\'ve invited her to hike to Kalalau with me in late August. Having done it once before, I know at least a few of the pitfalls, but it was good to learn about the \"bad trail\" at Mile 8. Also learned the hard way about too much weight. I left about 10 lbs of clothes and food hanging about 5 feet off the ground from a tree near Hanakoa on my way in. Came back for it 2 days later and the goats and other critters had scattered my stuff all over the forest floor. Nothing edible left, of course, but clothes were salvagable. Main weight issue for me now is knowing how much water to carry. Time before, I hiked in winter and there was plenty to get from streams. But if Hanakapiai, Hanakoa, and Kalalau streams are year-round sources (I use a Steripen bug killer), seems like a 3L bladder should do it, don\'t ya think? That\'s 6 pounds or 25% of total bag weight, which is a lot, but I\'d hate to run out of water on a hot August day.
Also, our permits are for 1 night each in and out at Hanakoa, and 3 at Kalalau. But we really would like to make it all the way in to Kalalau the first day. Think the rangers would give be ok with that, given that as you have indicated before, sometimes ya never know that the trail will throw at you....could be great footing, cool day, and fast walking to allow us to make it in 10 or so hours (we plan on leaving at 6:00 am)
Mahalo for any information/advice you might care to share.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 31, 2008 8:20PM
Aloha Curt. One of our team members hiked the trail last month and reported that the notorious section of trail before mile 8 was looking pretty good. Of course, trail conditions shift constantly, so you can share on the forum your experience after your hike if you like. Thanks for reiterating the point - yet again - about weight on the trail. Obviously having to abandon weight mid-trail is not eco-sensitive and can create real problems.
As for water, there are year-round rivers running at Hanakapiai, Hanakoa, the 8 mile mark and at Kalalau. As long as you have a trusted water treatment system, filling up at these spots may save you weight on the trail.
Legally speaking, you may not camp in Hanakoa or Kalalau without a proper permit. Technically, you are in violation if your permit is not for the date/location where you are camped. Kalalau sees a lot of visitors and permits help manage the impact of these campers. Of course, rangers only make periodic passes through Kalalau to enforce this. You never know if you'll be there when they are. Hope this helps. Enjoy. J
Jul 31, 2008 8:48PM
Aloha,
Just wanted to clarify. I had planned on picking up the entire bag full of extra weight when I came back through Hanakoa and taking it all out with me. Needless to say, I did pick up everything the goats had thrown about and left the forest just as I had found it: quiet, green, and trashless. I won't underestimate the goats again though.
Cheers
Curt
Aug 02, 2008 12:22AM
Curt, I was hiking the trail end of June/beginning of July and brought a 3lb water bladder. All the smaller streams were dried up, (Kauai was in a drought at that time), and I filled my bladder to the full 3 lbs., as the only places to get water were mile 2 & 6 (I only made it to mile 6--packed to much weight, plan to return in March to complete the trail). I'd suggest filling the bladder up totally, you certainly don't want to run out of water mid-hike.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 04, 2008 6:54PM
Mahalo Curt. Of course, thanks for picking up the remains the goats left behind. Your situation is a great example of how even the best intentions can sometimes lead to unexpected results, especially in the wild. I hope that all who read your posts hear the message we offer frequently: pack light! Aloha nui. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 04, 2008 7:02PM
Thanks for the feedback for Curt, Julie. Yes, the rivers run at 2 mile and 6 mile. Should you have gotten to 8, you would have found another source there. Definitely want to stay hydrated on this trail. Let us know how your March hike goes. J
Aug 04, 2008 11:07PM
Mahalo for your thoughts about water, Julie. I recently purchased a 3L (6 lbs of water) bladder and based on some trial hikes here on the mainland, believe that the four main streams should provide sufficient quantities for my use while hiking the Kalalau again. Of course, I\'ll be using my Steripen or tablets to purify.
Aloha nui.
Curt
Aug 10, 2008 3:20AM
hopefully I am emailing the right site. We are coming to hike the Napali Coast in early October and were wondering about the weather and ways to get to the trailhead without leaving a rental car at the trailhead for the time we will be in there.
Aug 10, 2008 7:21PM
Hi. We are visiting just til Wednesday and are considering hiking the first two miles with kids age 7 and 10. At home, they hike a few times a year, but i\'d still call them beginners. What are your thoughts about this hike for them? Also, it\'s been raining a fair amount since we arrived a couple of days ago. Any effect on the trail that we should be aware of?
Thanks.
Aug 10, 2008 8:52PM
I just hiked the Kalalau Trail August 4-6 with my 20-year old daughter and 13-year old son. It was beautiful. Beware of mosquitos in Hanakoa Valley - apply repellant at Space Rock before descending into Hanakoa Valley. We want to thank Bill for his work on the trail, which has improved conditions for all. Shelf/Ridge area at mile 6.5-7.5 very passable. We used a Steripen to purify our water along the trail. Very lightweight. We won\'t forget the folks we met along the trail, the residents of the Valley, or those incredible sunsets.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 11, 2008 8:25PM
Aloha. You sent your message to www.kauaiexplorer.com. Many folks communicate about Kalalau in our forum, here. October begins to get more rainy, but one can never say for sure what the weather will be like when you're here. Be prepared for some mud and stay in tune with weather reports while you're on island.
Kauai Explorer does not recommend any business, but we do suggest users of the site support our sponsors. The sponsor of this Kalalau page, Kauai Tour Guides, offers rides to the trailhead. Their website is: http://www.kauaitourguides.com/
Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 11, 2008 8:33PM
Hi Janie, Thanks for logging on while you're on island. This trail is strenuous and the rains of the past days can definitely impact this portion of the trail because this area of the island sees a lot of rainfall. This trail has steep inclines and declines for most of the 2 miles (one way) and you'll do it all again on the way out. If you're not sure, try another trail that is not as challenging, like Nounou on the East side or Mahaulepu in Poipu. Hope this helps. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 11, 2008 8:45PM
Hi Craig. Mahalo for giving us some feedback about your Kalalau experience. Just a reminder that the official word on safety for the water is to boil or treat it. Of course many people use filters, but they do so at their own risk.
Aloha. J
Aug 12, 2008 12:19PM
I am planning a trip to hike the full length of the Kalalau trail in Oct. and I would like to know what the weather is like at that time, specifically rain. Also, I will not have a car. How difficult is it to get to the trail head and back to the airport? Thanks for your help.
Mike
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 12, 2008 7:11PM
Aloha Mike, I answered this exact question on the Aug 11 post. October can be more rainy, but it's hard to predict what the weather will be when you're on the trail. Generally speaking, the first section of the trail tends to be the most muddy when it has been raining. The sponsor of this site's Kalalau Page, Kauai Tour Guides offers rides to the trailhead. We don't recommend any business but we do suggest our website users support this site's sponsors. Their website is: http://www.kauaitourguides.com/
Enjoy! J
Aug 15, 2008 2:00AM
we will be hiking the kalalau next friday am - sunday pm. we have a permit to camp at kalalau the 1st (friday) night and the 2nd at hanakoa. is this a reasonable itinerary? our flight leaves at 6:45pm on sunday, so i was hesitant to plan on just hiking the full day out on sunday - but would you recommend this instead to give us more time at/near kalalau valley? what stops would you suggest on our ascent out?
lastly - is there somewhere on the island to pick up a detailed map of the trail?
mahalo!
Aug 15, 2008 4:22AM
How long must water be boiled to kill lepto?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 17, 2008 5:19PM
Makaio - the State of Hawaii DLNR recommends boiling for at least 1 minute. W
Aug 17, 2008 5:39PM
Is it permitted to get married at the Kalalau Beach?
Aug 17, 2008 5:44PM
I\'m doing the full hike (camping 1 night) in about a week... I did the 2 mile hike to the beach and the additional 2 miles up to the waterfall about 3 years ago and am so excited that I get to do the whole thing this time around. Question for you... I\'m a 5\'3 female with shorter legs, do you suggest hiking poles? Also I\'ve purchased Salomon Techamphibian shoes to walk in; are these good enough? Thanks, great site. Lots of good information!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 17, 2008 8:29PM
Hi Breann - hiking with poles is a matter of personal preference and how fast you like to hike. I see lots of people using pole but personally do not like them.
I use the Soloman XA Pro shoes. Those Techamphibian shoes are nice and airy, but if it gets wet the mud and water comes in-between your foot and the footbed. I've always found that shoes work better for hiking if the water doesn't get inside. Note that this is different from rock-hopping in a river where those Techna's might be great. W
Aug 17, 2008 9:24PM
We hiked the first two miles on August 11th. The trail was a little muddy in places but was one of the highlights of our week in Kauai. We thought about heading up to Hanakapiai Falls, but decided we would do that next time. Instead we spent a couple of hours exploring the beach and enjoying the scenery. We got an early start and were able to park right next to the trailhead. The view at about mile 1 where you can see Ke'e and the Na Pali coast is spectacular. There weren't very many people around us on the way in, but we passed a lot of people on the way back. It was interesting to see the variety of people and foorwear. I saw grandparents and kids as young as 3-4 years old. There were people with hiking boots and those with flip flops. The one common thing is that we were all muddy, but having a great time. If you don't hike much or exercise regularly I would suggest doing a little training before you arrive in Kauai. There are some serious climbs into and back out from Hanakapiai.
A question: are the 2 miles to Hanakapiai Falls as difficult as the hike to the beach?
Also great job with the website!
David
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 17, 2008 11:39PM
Hi David - to answer your question: the 2 miles from Hanakapiai beach to the falls are not as strenuous as the hike from Kee to the beach. Hiking into the valley is a bit more technical due to wet and slippery rocks. W
Aug 19, 2008 5:35AM
Someone who works for the State just told me today (8/18) that there was a fire at Hanakapiai, which resulted in trail closure. I can't seem to get any information about this on the web. What is the latest status? I'm scheduled to be in Kalalau shortly, and I'm concerned.
Aug 19, 2008 5:26PM
I assume the trail is closed for the time being due to fire. Does anyone have an idea how long that may be the case?
Article from Star Bulletin
http://starbulletin.com/2008/08/19/news/story07.html
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 19, 2008 10:14PM
Aloha Ryan. First off, I want you to know that due to a fire in Hanakapiai that has encompassed 40-50 acres, the DLNR has closed the trail to all hiking until deemed safe. Hopefully by Friday all will be well.
The general mode tends to be hiking out in one day but perhaps breaking up the hike in w/ an overnight in Hanakoa. On the way out you're usually lighter in your pack and have your hiking rhythm on. But it is not 'legal' to camp anywhere without a permit for that specific location.
I will always say more time in Kalalau is a good thing.
Check out the state parks PDF of the trail. The second page has a map:
http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/pdf/brochures/KalalauTrail.pdf
Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 19, 2008 10:16PM
Aloha Sara. The DLNR is making some clarifications about commercial weddings on State lands. You can read the press release here:
http://hawaii.gov/dlnr/chair/pio/nr/2008/N8-080.pdf
This document also has contact info if you need further details.
Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 19, 2008 10:31PM
Aloha Makaio. Yes, there is a fire that is being dealt with and the trail is currently closed until deemed safe by the DLNR. The Garden Island newspaper has a story about the current situation in today's paper. The link is here:
http://kauaiworld.com/articles/2008/08/19/news/news02.txt
We will keep you posted as we learn more, via the Explorer site.
J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 19, 2008 10:36PM
Aloha Willy. Yes, the trail is closed and today's Garden Island newspaper says that it will remain so until the DLNR deems it safe to cross the burned area. At the time of the story it sounded like the blaze was not yet fully out.
http://kauaiworld.com/articles/2008/08/19/news/news02.txt
Thanks for posting your article link as well.
Explorer is on the list to get DLNR announcements and we have not received any notice about the closure. We will keep the info updated on our site as we learn more.
Mahalo. J
Aug 20, 2008 9:58PM
Wed. 8/20 i just called DLNR regarding the fire (i am to hike the trail 9/4) and she said closed \'indefinitely\'...
Aug 21, 2008 1:12AM
aloha.
unfortunately, i contacted the kauai state parks office in lihue and was told that "there's NO WAY that the trail will be opened up by this weekend... the fire is still uncontained." this will effectively kill my trip this weekend, which is too bad - but i thought i'd pass it along to any other would-be hikers who were thinking about heading out this weekend to kalalau.
cheers.
ryan
Aug 21, 2008 2:39AM
I've been looking forward all summer to coming to Kauai to hike the trail only to find out about the fire! Do you have any comparable alternatives? We were going to hike to the falls. Thanks- great website.
Aug 21, 2008 4:44PM
Any updates on the trail closing situation?
We are supposed to begin hiking into Kalalau on Sunday, Aug 24th. Sure hope they get it open by then. Thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 21, 2008 7:33PM
HI Tim, I just spoke with the Honolulu office and here are the basics as of 8-21:
-the trail is closed indefinitely
-they are still fighting the fire
-even after the fire is extinguished the trail will be closed until a complete assessment is done of the erosion and damage to the area
-the trail will not be open until it is deemed safe
-anyone with permits for Kalalau can still legally camp there if they get there by boat
- updates can be found here: http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/announcements/index.cfm
We'll keep you updated here on the site, as well.
Thanks. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 21, 2008 7:35PM
Thanks for helping get the info out there, Ryan. Check out my last post to Tim that has detailed info from the Honolulu office. Keep in mind that if you can get a kayak company to get you to Kalalau by water, you can still legally camp there. It will probably be a lot less crowded in the Valley now. J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 21, 2008 7:40PM
Hi Nat. Depending on when you're coming, the trail may be open by the time you get here. However, it sounds like there may be a lot of work necessary to make the area safe even after the fire is finally extinguished. If you want some challenging hikes with sweeping views, try some of the trails in Kokee. You will come to vistas overlooking the Na Pali, just from a different vantage than the Kalalau trail. Our site highlights Awaawapuhi (which also has a connection to the Nualolo trail). Pihea is also an alternative. Neither has waterfalls, but they are challenging and gorgeous. Enjoy! J
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 21, 2008 7:44PM
Hi Curt. Unfortunately, it sounds like the trail will not be open when you had planned to hike. However, you can still hire a kayak company to guide you by water to Kalalau and you can continue to legally camp there with your permit. I posted some info for Tim a few posts up, here's the recap of the basics as of 8-21:
-the trail is closed indefinitely -they are still fighting the fire
-even after the fire is extinguished the trail will be closed until a complete assessment is done of the erosion and damage to the area
-the trail will not be open until it is deemed safe
-anyone with permits for Kalalau can still legally camp there if they get there by boat
- updates can be found here: http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/announcements/index.cfm
We'll keep you updated here on the site, as well. Good luck. J
Arius Hopman
Aug 22, 2008 5:06AM
Great website and a good service. See above link...or google islandbreath Na Pali for a detailed desription of the K trail before and after Volunteer Sommers year-long work. Dozens of photos.
Cheers, Arius
Aug 23, 2008 12:47AM
Aloha,
I have been planning a trip to hike the entire Kalalau Trail for over a year now. My wife and I have had our 5 night camping permit and airline tickets from Colorado for over 9 months. Now with the fire it appears we will not be able to do the hike. I read above about being dropped off by kayak but our permit doesn\'t start until Aug 31st and the last day to have kayaks legally out there is Sept. 1st. That info came from the parks dept. and in speaking with them they also said that all the other permits for all the other parks on the entire island have been booked. Please give me some ideas of what I can do. I do not want to have to cancel the entire trip due to money lost of rebooking airfare and hotels but at this point it doesn\'t seem like I have any options. Any info you might have would be greatly appreciated. Any chance it may be open by Aug. 31st? Being from Colorado I am no stranger to wild fires and 40-50 acres seems pretty small. We just had one down the road with over 400 acres burned. Any chance we could still hike in even if it was not legally open? Please help!!!!!!!!
Aug 23, 2008 2:23PM
We have had permits since January to hike the Napali coast from August 31-September 5. This is our anniversary trip. Yesterday we got a call saying the trail is closed indefinitely. The NLDR is of no help whatsoever. They said all other campgrounds were full. What do we do? We\'ve been planning this trip for months. We looked into rescheduling, but it will cost us double if we do. This is our one and only chance to get to Hawaii. We\'re coming from Colorado. Any suggestions? We were told kayaking wasn\'t allowed because of the dates we were coming. Please help!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 23, 2008 5:35PM
Hi Jodie - I wish I could help you with this trail closure. I went to Kee yesterday (8-22) and the trail is still closed even though the fire is extinguished. The DLNR does not seem concerned with how this affects travelers like you - in other words I don't think they are in a rush to re-open the trail. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 23, 2008 5:43PM
Adam - I expect the trail will re-open soon. I used to be a firefighter and that fire was not large, nor did it threaten anything. The DLNR is under pressure to wrap up the fire cleanup and open the trail to the public. W
Aug 23, 2008 8:19PM
To Adam & Jodie ... my girlfriend and I are in the same boat as you guys are, we planned on hikig the Kalalau Trail Sep 4 , camp a couple nights, and either hike out or get a boat to take us out. and i also just found out (like you did) that the last day for boats (legally) is 8/31, so even if the trail is still closed the first week of Sep., we apparently cant even plan on hiring a boat to take us in and out, which would have been my 'worst case' scenario. we have been 'training' for this hike for a couple months, and i personally have been kind of 'dreaming' of doing the actual hike for a few years, so 'cheating' and taking a boat both ways would still be a pretty big letdown,since i REALLY REALLY have been pumped to hike the entire trail ! but at least we could still experience the Kal. valley and beach for a couple days. if you guys hear of any 'options' or ideas , please post them here or email me tsx500@yahoo.com . i was thinking the same way you were, like if the trail is still 'officially' closed come Sep. 4, then maybe we would still give it a shot, however i dont know how smart that would be (?). i'm gonna stay positive up until then ! Tim , Chicago
Aug 23, 2008 9:48PM
I went to the trailhead early this morning (5:30-Saturday Aug 23) Within about 2 minutes of my arrival, two park rangers and 4 potential hikers arrived. Clearly we all that same thoughts in mind.
The rangers related that the trail has apparently not been impacted by the fire, but that the trail remains closed because helicopters and firefighters are continuing to work on extinguishing the fire. Allowing hikers to pass through the area would hinder those operations and put the hikers at risk, according to the rangers, which is why the trail is still closed. They also stated that the fire is a difficult one to put extinguish because it is burning and smoldering along the ground and under accumulated leaves, brush, etc. They also mentioned that anyone caught attempting to use the trail would be issued a misdemeanor citation, apparently not a good thing ot have on one\'s record. Apparently at least a couple were issued yesterday.
I too am totally bummed out by this unfortunate event. My daughter arrives this afternoon at which point our plans (in effect for almost a year) were to begin loading our backpacks for a five day camping trip to Kalalau starting tomorrow morning. But the gendarmes will be at the gate, ticket book in hand, unless today\'s efforts by man and Mother Nature result in some quick quenching of the hot spots.
Frankly, since the threat seems to be limited to getting a load of water dumped on our heads by an errant helicopter, and since there are workers on the ground there as well, I don\'t see why \"through hikers\" with permits to camp at Kalalau couldn\'t be allowed to enter, either as a group or individually (since there are so few of us) and be \"escorted\" past the hazardous area, since there is no telling how long the current fire situation will remain in effect. So if anybody from Kauai Parks is reading this, how about thinking \"out of the box,\" showing some Hawaiian hospitality to the folks that help pay bills, and figuring out a win-win situation for all.
Continued thanks to Kauai Explorer for maintaining this site and allowing us, like Kilauea, to vent.
Aloha, Curt
Aug 24, 2008 2:21AM
To everyone in the same boat as us....I talked to the fire department today on Kauai. They said that they think the trail will be open by the time we arrive, which is Saturday, August 30th. Would you agree Kauai Explorer Staff member? If, for some reason, it is not open yet, they said to call them and they would help us find other campgrounds and trails to hike. Not exactly what I want to do since we've been looking forward to the Kalalau Trail for almost a year now, but better than nothing. Let's just keep our fingers crossed that mother nature looks out for us this week.
Aug 24, 2008 3:30PM
Curt, reading your post actually makes me feel a little better about my situation(planned hike on Sep. 4) . hearing that the fire did not actually affect the actual trail sounds encouraging, and hearing that the fire is out and just 'smoldering' a bit underneath , makes me think that by Sep. 4 there shouldn't be a problem with re-opening the trail . fingers are crossed . . . . . . . hopefully the DLNR feels at least some sort of 'pressure' to get the situation resolved asap . Tim,Chicago
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 24, 2008 5:09PM
Jodie - I spoke with rangers and firefighters at the trailhead yesterday and the trail is scheduled to be open on Tuesday 8-26. W
Aug 24, 2008 7:37PM
Yea!!! Thank you for all the information you have provided. Without this website, we'd still be wondering what we were going to do. Thanks again!
Aug 25, 2008 6:24PM
My wife and I were a couple of the 28 hikers that were rescued by a fire dept zodiac on the first day of the fire. The fire did cross the trail and burned along it for a good half mile. I could see an erosion problem with much of the vegetation that held the soil in place now being charred.
Here are a couple of photos from the fire:
http://www.websitesalaska.com/scvolz/Hawaii_424.jpg
http://www.websitesalaska.com/scvolz/Hawaii_434.jpg
Aug 25, 2008 9:38PM
Steven, thanks for sharing the pictures. Where did you get stranded and where did yo utake the pictures? I'm glad we got to see the trail on August 10.
David
Aug 25, 2008 10:22PM
Hi,
my husband and I are also going to hike the trail starting on Sep 4 - if the DNLR gets the trail ready(my fingers are of course crossed). I just found this website about one week ago and wanted to say thank you for all the amazing information and help I have found on this site!!!
We hiked the first 2 miles 5 years ago and have dreamed of doing the whole 11 miles since then and finally we got our permits in order to do it. I am very excited that it looks like the trail will open soon.
Mahalo again for all you amazing work!!!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 26, 2008 6:23PM
Mahalo for the great feedback, Anette. We'll keep you posted on the trail status. Have a great hike! J
Aug 26, 2008 8:20PM
We were on our way back and the fire had everyone stuck at Hanakapi'ai Beach. I tried to go up the trail to see if it was passable and found the fire burning on both sides. It was about that time that members of the fire department came through and had us go back to the beach. The told us that there one helicopter was down for maintenance, but they would try and send a boat. The smoke was very thick and we were getting ash and live embers dropped on us. From the beach we could clearly see the fire through the smoke (see link to photo in my previous post). After several hours the fire dept was able to send a zodiac but were unable to land because of the rough waves. We had to swim out in pairs of two. They took 12 of us at a time and brought our gear in garbage bags. In the end we were safe and had a heck of an adventure on our honeymoon.
Aug 27, 2008 12:31AM
The Trail is officially reopened !
Aug 27, 2008 12:32AM
Does anyone know if AT&T cellphones work along the Napali coast and/or at the Kalalau beach ? i have the newer 3G model,if that matters at all (?) thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 27, 2008 6:34AM
Tim - your cellphone will not work at Kalalau. Even if it DID work I would still recommend you leave it at home :-) W
Aug 27, 2008 9:09PM
After months of planning and years of dreaming of hiking Kalalau, it was a major, major, major disappointment to have this brushfire occur on the exact week of my planned adventure. On Monday 8/25, I took Liko's boat tour (which I highly recommend)! His boat is designed to enter some of the caves along the coast below Hanakoa and Awaawapuhi (which you cannot see from the trail). So, this was a real treat that well compensated for not being able to hike it, and I'm very thankful for how things panned out. My friends were very generous indeed, and no longer majorly disappointed. I'll still have to plan another trip to Kalalau, which seems to be like the Apollo 13 mission for me personally. Our plan "B" was to kayak Na Pali, but weather and rough seas did not allow for that either.
I'm wondering how such a tragedy could have occurred. It is most regrettable and disheartening to see such blatant disregard for the environment and laws of the land for someone to not only have illegally camped there but to start an open fire which was rule #1 explicitly stated in all capital letters on the permit. Many of us go through the tedious legal process of obtaining permits so that when rangers check we may present them. If they are so vigilant about checking on hikers, how could someone have camped at Hanakapiai and also started a fire? What a horrible damage to a beautifully prestine area. We could see the damages from the tour boat.
Nevertheless, Kauai has some outstanding breathtaking beauty outside of the Kalalau trail, which I may not have seen otherwise. I enjoyed the Nualolo Cliff trail and Canyon Vista/Waipoo Falls trails which were out of this world and truly spectacular, and I highly recommend them to everyone out there. Good alternatives if Kalalau is not do-able. I had three days worth of camping supplies, so that came in handy! Kauai truly is the "island of discovery."
Aug 28, 2008 1:02AM
does anyone out there know if there is cryptosporidia and/or giardia (i think these are officially classified as 'pathogenic cysts' i believe) in the fresh water along the Napali coast ? the reason i ask is that i plan on using AquaMira drops(chlorine dioxide) to treat our water when we hike the trail next week , and i believe that the instructions say that you must wait up to 4 hours after treatment ,before drinking the water, IF it has crypto
Aug 28, 2008 1:07AM
(contd.) ... if it has crypto or giardia , but if not then you only have to wait maybe 30-90 minutes tops before drinking. i have learned online that the leptosporosis bacteria , which Kauai is famous for, is killed off within only 30 minutes after application of the AquaMira drops. thanks for any help !
Aug 29, 2008 5:26AM
So is it official? Is the trail really open? Sorry not to trust you Tim but can anyone else confirm this? I´m in austria so I have a logistics problem calling the DNLR. Thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 29, 2008 6:09AM
MG - the trail opened on Tuesday 8-26. W
Aug 29, 2008 4:49PM
Aloha,
Returned yesterday (Thursday) evening from four glorious days with my daughter on the Kalalau Trail and in the Valley itself. Hiked in early, making Hanakapiai Stream by daybreak, kinda slow going because it rained almost the whole way there and trail was of course a bit slick. Met and real nice chap named Daniel there and hiked in off and on with him. With daylight and clear skies, the rest of the trip pretty normal. Bill\'s work on the trail is absolutely brilliant. Seems the state should find a way to support his continuing efforts to make the trail a whole lot safer for everyone. We stopped and chatted with him for a while at Mile 8, took him up on his offer of orange gatorade powder, and shared a few stories. Great guy!
Got to the beach and found our favorite campsite available, since most folks had been forced to leave by the fire. So the three of us set up camp and enjoyed our first of several meals under the noni tree.
Spent two days on day hikes up the valley, made far more enjoyable by hooking up with a local fellow who knew the trails and some of the out-of-the-way places that were simply awesome.
Hike out with Daniel was uneventful, except for an attack by a group of kukui shells, who had grouped together by the base of a small tree awaiting our passage. When I stepped on them they savagely ripped my foot out from under me, causing me to fall directly onto their conspirator, a large, sharp, pumice rock. So after unwrapping myself from the tree and with scraped and bloodied arm and leg, we headed for quiet place to allow my daughter to apply her nursing skills to clean and neosporinize my wounds. Let me tell you, I think those shells are the biggest hazard on the trail, and I hope to see the necklace makers come in for a clean sweep soon.
Celebrated our journey with a wonderful fish taco dinner at the Hanalei Gourmet. Mahalo Daniel!!
We\'ll be posting a longer description of our adventure with photos soon on a web site, since we used up two long-life batteries and a large memory card documenting the trip.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 29, 2008 7:31PM
Always love to hear the post-hike recount. Thanks for following up and sharing your experience on the forum, Curt! Aloha. J
Aug 30, 2008 8:13AM
Awesome, awesome, awesome! Seeing the monstrous philodendron leaves and skies filled with stars at night were well worth all the effort, even the cliffs. I am witness to the conspiracy of the kukui nuts mentioned above. It\'s amazing the man didn\'t lose a limb! Other than that little episode, the hike was fun, challenging, exciting, breathtaking and really a trip of a lifetime.
Aug 31, 2008 3:05AM
Does anynone know where you can get fuel canisters, preferably MSR IsoPro, on Kauai. I want to bring my MSR Superfly, but know I can't bring fuel canisters on the airplane. Thanks...Greg
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 31, 2008 4:27PM
Greg - I am almost certain I have seen those at local camping stores. Try Kayak Kauai or Peddle and Paddle in Hanalei. W
Aug 31, 2008 10:09PM
When you getting here Greg. I\'ve got an MSR tank that I used for only 3 days of cooking and will be happy to give it to you if you are arriving before Sept 13.
Aloha, Curt
Sep 01, 2008 3:40AM
OK....I think I have most everything ready for our hike in a couple weeks. Got the permits, camelback pack, lightweight stove, fuel canisters (when I get there). lightweight freeze-dried food, Katadyn Water filter, sunscreen, bug repellant, sleeping bag liners, sleeping pad, great hiking buddy and a good attitude. Am I forgetting anything "major" and I'm still worried about parking our rental car, even with no valaubles in it, at the trailhead. Am I being paranoid? I am so looking forward to our stay there.
Sep 01, 2008 5:38AM
This a great site! So much info. One question (I looked but didn\'t see if it was already asked - sorry if it was) what happens if you can\'t get a permit and you camp anyway? Is it a fine or what? We plan on doing everything we can to get a permit, but it sounds like the DNLR is in no hurry to help you out!
We are looking at the first week of October and I am hoping it is not too late...
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 01, 2008 5:00PM
Hi Greg - sounds like you are prepared. Are you bringing a lightweight tent? We are going into rainy season. Make sure you have some good treats.
For parking I suggest the YMCA camp Naue. Summer is over and camp is once again open for camping at $15 / night. You can park your car and valuables for $5 / night. The camp is safe, quiet and only 2 miles from the trailhead. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 01, 2008 5:02PM
Sam - the DLNR will fine you and may make you hike out early if you do not have a permit. The fine is not major but leaving Kalalau early is. Try your best to get one. W
Sep 02, 2008 1:50AM
We debated about bringing a tent. We will be hiking the trail in 2 weeks and thought if it did "sprikle" we could sleep in the cave. I can't imagine the waves are picking up enough yet to make that impossible. Any thoughts? I have heard people say they had to open up the whole tent anyway because it got too warm. I myself and am cold weather boy, born and raised, and tend to get too warm if anything.
Sep 02, 2008 1:53AM
Hey man....thanks for the offer. We'll be arriving the evening of Friday, 9/12. It can't come soon enough after the days with temps in the 50s here in Seattle. I'm always willing to save a buck if I could find a way to take it off your hands.
Sep 02, 2008 2:21AM
Sam,
In spite of the many negative comments posted by others, my experience with DLNR Permit Office was good, provided I was dealing with Pearl Ajimine, who was very accessible using email at pearl.t.ajimine@hawaii.gov and very pleasant on the phone as well. I had to change the dates of my trip and she had the new permits re-issued in no time, as well as accepting jpg copy of my drivers license. I\'m thinking that if you enter into negotiations with a positive attitude she will reflect the same back at you.
I also left my rental car at the trail head for four days. No valuables in it of course. And no issues either when I got back, although we did encounter a frantic New Englander who had locked her keys in the trunk of her rented convertible. The top was down, rain was on the way and she had no clue in the world as to where she was, having taken a wrong turn onto Kuhio Highway way back near Princeville. I think she finally got a mechanic out there to jimmy the trunk. I thought afterwards: can you pull the rear seats out of a new Mustang convert and access the trunk release latch?
Also, I still have that MSR Fuel can that is about 90% full. FREE to the next caller. email me at hohoscaler1@aol.com to set up a time and location. We\'re chillin\' on Anini Beach for the next 2 weeks. Aloha, Curt
Sep 02, 2008 6:25PM
I just wanted to echo Curts comments - my experience in dealing with the DLNR has been nothing but positive! I have talked on the phone with the local Kauai office(I also spoke with Pearl), and the Ohau main office. They have all been extreemely helpful with my permits and questions. I will say this - they are not always easy to get ahold of and you have to be a little persistent, for instance if you are calling them on the phone - they don't answer all the time, but once I talked to them in person they were great!
Yeah - I am so excited that the trail is open again so that we can hike it. I did check my list against Gregs list from a few days ago - and I think we are all set. Now it is just up to may hiking legs, to make the journey!!!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 02, 2008 6:42PM
Hi Greg. Technically, the cave is not a 'legal' camping area, though plenty of people use it for sleeping. A tent can be a nice thing to have to protect from mosquitos (a campfire keeps them away, too) and a place to put your stuff. Weight on the trail is critical, so if you're willing to wing it with the elements in the Valley, then perhaps leaving it behind is a good call. Enjoy! J
Sep 02, 2008 11:16PM
Thank you for all of the wonderful information on this forum. I\'m much calmed about mile 6.5 to 8 and the narrow cliffs.
I\'m also glad to hear about parking and ride options. Does anyone know about trustworthy people or businesses (preferably in Haena or Hanalei) that are willing to safely store the luggage you don\'t take on the trail so that it need not be left in the car?
Mahalo!
Sep 03, 2008 1:08AM
We leave the 13th. Where you spending night of the twelvth? Send me email and we ca continue coordinating withthat or by phone hohoscaler1@aol.com. Mahalo
Sep 03, 2008 4:36AM
For Julie,
2 years ago I left my luggage with a very nice lady that lives about 2 miles from Kee Beach. I spoke to her again this year and she said she'd would be happy to repeat the "service." Her name is Betty. The only compensation she asked for was a donation to the Kauai Humane Society, which we did then, and actually are doing every year now. She might also let you keep your car at her house and give you a ride to the trail head. I'm sure she'd be happy to hear from you.
Aloha, Curt
Sep 04, 2008 4:48PM
I am hoping to hike the first two miles with my sons 8 and 11 in October. Is this portion of the trail too dangerous for kids that age? What about the rest of the trail. Wife is opposed to going further with the kids. Thoughts?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 04, 2008 6:23PM
Mike - 8 and 11 year old kids can definitely hike this trail. I did it with my 3 year old daughter. You can always turn around. W
Curt
Sep 06, 2008 7:04AM
Check the web site for pictures and text of our hike in to the Kalalau Valley August 25-28 and our adventures in the valley itself.
Sep 06, 2008 3:51PM
We will be hiking the kalalau in october. I am wondering what kind camping supplies are available on the island. I am mostly wondering about my method of cooking. also I am bringing a filter is fresh water easy to come by?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 06, 2008 5:08PM
Hi Jon - I can recommend three camping supply shops: Da Life in Poipu, Kayak Kauai and Peddle and Paddle in Hanalei. There are many sources for water on Kauai. W
curt
Sep 07, 2008 4:24PM
Jon,
IMHO you can't go wrong with a JetBoil camp stove. Fast, light, and easy to use. If you're going to be camping elsewhere as well, suggest you purchase one. If not, contact Micco at Kayak Kauai about renting one. Water treatment is also important on the island, something that will KILL every living thing in the water, especially the dreaded (but apparently rare) Leptospirosis. Several options of course (tablets--slow, 3-minute boil, Steripen <my personal favorite>),but a filter is useless against eensy weensy bacteria like lepto.
Sep 08, 2008 5:21AM
Hi, I am planning to hike Kalalau Trail one way (11 miles) in mid September. I am plannig to park my car at Haena Beach. My question is what are my options on getting back to Haena from Kalalau Beach? Thank you.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 08, 2008 4:44PM
Vit - there are no legal backpacker shuttles to and from Kalalau. Also do not leave valuables in your car at Kee. W
Sep 08, 2008 8:09PM
My husband and I are thinking about planning a trip over Christmas to Kalalau valley. Typically, what is the weather like in December? We'd hate to fly all the way from New Orleans and be rained on the entire time. Thanks
Sep 08, 2008 10:05PM
A couple of questions for people that have been to Kalalau recently: Is the waterfall at the end of the beach flowing again? and are the campsites near the waterfall open officially? if not are people camping there anyway? Thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 09, 2008 5:16AM
Hi Lauren - over 25 years I have seen some of the best, and some of the worst weather in December. Job security for weather-forecasters and tent manufacturers. W
Sep 09, 2008 7:04AM
Yes, waterfall is flowing. Don't know if the camp sites are offically open but there were people camping there. Just hiked the trail on the 5th, in and out in the same day. Pretty amazing scenery and views! Took me 9 1/2 hours of hiking and spent 45 minutes on the beach. Probably would take much more time with lots of rain. It is a difficult hike and the sun gets you in the early afternoon when leaving Kalalau Beach. Bring lots of water (2 gallons/person) as I ran out and had to bum some off a guy at mile 8. He has apparently set up permanent camp and taken it upon himself to do trail maintenance.
Sep 09, 2008 4:41PM
Aloha Scott,
Spent 3 nights on Kalalau Beach in late August. Waterfalls were flowing fine and there were a couple of handy lengths of bamboo to help you fill your bottles while staying dry.
I'm not sure which of the campsites you are referring to. The closest one to the waterfall has a great view of the beach, but given the number of rocks lying on it and its position directly under the cliff, I think it would be unwise to camp there. The next closest one is outside the rock fall danger zone and was available for use.
Speaking of rock hazards, while we were there a couple had set up their tent on a slope directly under the cliffs near the east end of the main camping area not far from us. One of the "residenTs" of the valley, who shall remain nameless, cautioned them as to the danger of their situation and they wisely moved. During the night, we heard at least two large rocks fall in the vicinity of their former campsite, so IMHO it seems prudent to keep your camp site some distance from the cliffs.
Curt
Sep 10, 2008 10:07AM
Kalalau is amazing. I read that a few people are planning on bringing young children... bad idea. First of all, it's a tough, long trail. Secondly, are you going to be okay with your 6 or 8 year old seeing naked hippies running around? Each time I have gone out there, there have been both male and female hippies that were basically living there and naked pretty much all day.
Sep 10, 2008 6:07PM
Aloha All,
OMG Matt, you make it sound like Kalalau is some kind of nudist colony, which in my experience is far from the truth. On two trips (and counting) to the Valley the only folks I\'ve seen nude on the beach have been tourists enjoying a naked swim. On my last trip, I was fortunate enough to be introduced to and have conversations with a number of the folks who have lived in the valley for years. Free spirits, to be sure, but also people who, for the most part, share my values for protecting and preserving the unique nature of this special place. I learned that, just like in other cultures, there is a behavioral code among the residents, one that seeks to encourage environmental protection and discourage activities which would bring undue attention to the \"community\" (activities such as stealing, rampant public nudity, etc). Like other communities, there will be a segment that \"acts out,\" to the detriment of the community at large, but my understanding, based on these conversations, is that such actions are dealt with as necessary. Admittedly, I have only been there twice, and I know others who read this forum are far more conversant with the mores and behavior of the residents than I, so if I\'m off base, please set me straight. I just don\'t find the \"hippies running naked on the beach\" version of life in Kalalau to be accurate.
I do wonder how many parents would encourage their young children to make the hike in. Does that actually occur?
Aloha, Curt
Sep 10, 2008 8:57PM
Planning on a hike towards the end of september and am totally clueless in regards to what weather to expect. I figure it could change wildly, so I plan to pack light and just get wet.
Does anyone know of a company that would drop off some kayaks at the beach so we could yak back instead of hike back? I've always thought that would be something amazing to do.
Sep 14, 2008 12:25AM
I am planning on doing this hike in mid to late October, if I can get a permit. I am wondering if the ocean is to rough to swim in at that time of year? Also, is it possible to get to Honopu Beach, or is the water to high/rough in October?
Sep 16, 2008 8:56PM
My buddy and I just returned from Kauai on Sunday. We hiked to the Kalalau Beach on 9/8 and hiked back out on 9/10. It was awesome! I have read some of the blogs and I would not recommend this hike for children. It was very difficult and many part of the train are very precarious (e.g., loose dirt, falling rocks, and cliffs) not to mention the unexpected wind gusts. I would have to say the craziest part of the trail, which some of the locals called the NAR (short for Narley), involved hiking literally on the side of a cliff. Absolutely breathtaking views!!!!
Here is the list of items I brought in the order of importance:
1. Water Filtration System (No STERIPEN - VERY UNRELIABLE),
2. Hiking Poles,
3. Hat (with a good size brim... mine was water wicking and covered my neck) that can be secured to your head,
4. Instant Food (just add hot water),
5. Head Lamp (to walk around camp at night),
6. First aid provisions (e.g., dear skin band aids for blisters, neosporin, bug spray, sun screen) There is an aloe plant by the falls which proved to be very helpful;
7. Waterproof camera (Olympus makes a good digital);
8. light weight bed pad,
9. light weight tent,
With regards to shoes, I can not emphasize enough to wear something light weight with excellent tread. I wore a pair of hiking boots which I found to be too heavy. My buddy wore a nice pair of hiking shoes made by New Balance.
I emphasize light weight because this was my first time and I carried many things that were unnecessary and dead weight (I am embarrassed to list). My bag weighed in at 53 lbs. Which was WAY too heavy. Although I am a big guy, this really tested my endurance.
When I go again, I will keep my bag to less that 20lbs. Some may say this is still too heavy; however, for me, there are somethings that I just will not give up. :-)
With photo ops along the way in the hike took 8 1/2 hours. The hike out took 7 1/2 hours.
Final comment: Start EARLY in the morning. To avoid mid day sun and the wind which usually picks up in the afternoon.
Always inform other family members of your intentions and camping plans in case of an emergency.
I hope everyone reading this has as much fun as we did. It was truly a life experience.
Sep 17, 2008 1:28PM
i'm going to hike the kalalau trail in december , but i'm heading there straight from the airport and don't want to carry all my stuff with me - is there any safe place/lockers to store bags?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 17, 2008 4:30PM
Jesse - September-October are usually great months for nice weather. We get rain but not big wind or frontal passages. To answer your Kayak drop off question, nobody offers that service. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 17, 2008 4:33PM
Alice - I do not know of any lockers but you can safely park a car with your stuff at Camp Naue in Haena (2 miles from the trailhead). W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 17, 2008 4:36PM
Great info OC! Thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 17, 2008 4:40PM
Sharon - unless you are very experienced in Hawaiian waters, the Fall-Winter conditions at Kalalau could be lethal. There are calmer days but one needs to recognize subtle changes as the surf can rise quickly. Help is a long way away. W
Sep 18, 2008 12:17AM
Alice, see several posts above, one by Curt, who mentions a local trustworthy lady named Betty who apparently will store hikers\' bags/car for a very small fee (i will call her for my next trip/hike next fall) Tim
Sep 18, 2008 12:33AM
i hiked the whole trail in about 9 hours total (that of course includes several rest/water collection breaks, etc...no rush since we started at 630 am). did it w/my girlfriend, we carried moderately heavy packs (me about 32lbs, her about 23 ). first time for both of us. totally awesome experience from beginning to end. we camped 2 nites in one of the first sea caves past the waterfall (the first one i think). if u do the same, make sure to NOT be directly under the cliff face or even within 30-50 feet of it, since rocks DO fall, mainly kicked by goats from way up above. we saw and heard many rocks fall and you do not want to be hit by one in the head !) we left our rental car unlocked at the trailhead, and upon return we discovered that someone had been inside (glove box,compartments all opened up) but of course we left nothing inside it,so no harm or damage done. we used only Katadyn water purification tablets (chlorine dioxide, not iodiine)to purify all our water, and i called Katadyn to find out exactly how long it takes the tablet to kill lepto, they said 15 minutes, although to be safe i was waiting an hour and put only used very dark water bottles like the directions recommended. back to the awesome experience... our first night, once it got totally dark out, there were no clouds and i have never seen so many stars before in my life (not to mention several shooting stars !). by the way we took a small motorized 18' boat back to Haena County Beach park, then hiked back to the trailhead to our car, about 1 mile hike. we hiked into the Kalalau valley our first full day there (we only went in about 1 mile or so) and found a nice pool where we could dive in. we met a super cool nice local man who frequently lives in the valley, and met his daughter who was visiting her dad at the time. learned about the apparently incredible healing powers of a local fruit found there called Noni. i plan on finding some kind of pure Noni extract product (juice,etc) back home , to try it daily for awhile to see if it indeed has the benefits that our new friend claims. i dont however redcommend eating the fruit raw, it tastes (to me) like vomit !
Sep 18, 2008 4:36AM
Thanks for the checklist OC. Couple of comments for you.
1. Regarding Steripen: I'm not familiar with any problems with Steripen's effectiveness if the water is reasonably clear (as it is in most of the time in most NaPali streams), but would certainly like to learn about any specific issues you are aware of.
A few positive Steripen reviews are at http://www.trailspace.com/gear/steripen/classic/#reviews
and a good video on what it is and how it works is at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM8-7vhex54
I can't see how a filter would be effective against micro-organisms like microbes and bacteria, organisms which are rendered harmless by the Steripen UV rays.
2. You mention a light weight sleeping pad. I looked all over for one that will give me a really comfortable surface to sleep on and ended up buying a long (78") Big Agnes Air Core. It's very comfortable and compresses to a nice small size, but mine weighs 34 ozs (not the 28 oz stated by the manufacturer), which is over twice the weight of my sleeping bag. Since I like to travel light, I'd sure like to know about any lighter pads that would give me the same degree of comfort as the 2.5 inches of air that I'm sleeping on with the Air Core.
Mahalo for your thoughts.
Aloha, Curt
Sep 18, 2008 8:34PM
i have read a couple of reviews saying that the Steripen failed in tropical environments (probably not much different than Hawaii's ... ) . i realize that sounds kind of wierd,given that the device is meant to be immersed in ... that's right, WATER ! go figure. but the reviews i mentioned seemed legit, and i cant remember on which website i saw them (maybe Amazon,maybe backcountry.com, ? ? ). just google "Steripen reviews"
Sep 19, 2008 3:11AM
can someone tell me, what is Kalalau beach like in the winter (lets say Jan.)? are the sea caves gone ? how much of the actual beach is gone? where do people camp ? i am planning my next trip and have heard all about the monster crashing waves in the winter, and i would love to see/hear/feel them, as my previous 2 trips to Kauai have been in the summer/early fall. thanks.
Sep 20, 2008 6:07AM
Before even arriving on the island, Greg and I had done a lot of research into this trail, especially on this website. What we found pre-hike was the challenge described by the bloggers and the message boards sounded like a fun and exciting trail that, though difficult, could be done with a pleasant demeanor. When we arrived on the island, we questioned many natives and visitors about the trail, mentioning we were planning on hiking it, with the intentions of camping for two nights. The majority of people described the trail as a splendid ride with danger lurking around each corner, a memory you would never forget. What we found was that, indeed, we would never forget that journey. The vistas were astounding, the flora and fauna were unique and diverse and the trail...well, the trail was friggin\\\' arduous and daunting. Up, down, back and forth, try not to die, repeat. Trecherous cliff sides threatening certain death at the misplacement of a single step, signs warning of poison, drowning, bacteria, tidal waves and being washed out to sea. When we finally reached Kalalau valley and set up camp, we were both so exhausted we could barely move (keep in mind we blasted through the trail in 7 hours) and though we had both brought, what we thought were ample amounts of water, we were severely dehydrated. My biggest tip to fellow hikers is bring more water then you think you\\\'ll need, due to the many ascents, descents and high temperature and humidity. Because of the heat, we decided to hike back at night, which ended up being both a good and bad decision. We left at 7 p.m. just after sunset having eaten the rest of our food trying to prepare our bodies for the long journey back. There was a certain amount of contentment not really knowing where the trail went five feet ahead of you, so you didn\\\'t have to worry about the numerous and horrible switch backs, or the jagged cliff sides. Speaking of switch backs, we found the most dangerous and difficult part of the trail to be the switch backs leading down the hill to the \\\"sketchy\\\" part of the trail. This part of trail was no more then 6 inches across, made of loose dirt, slanted towards the \\\"precipice of death\\\". On our way back we were literally checking our watches every half hour in hopes that hours had passed and we were near completion of our trek, only to find that we were contstantly hours away from being done. We were privledged enough to see a different side of the fauna at night. Thousands of frogs dotted the trail as well as a couple wild boar, and even the cutest baby goat curled up on the smallest of cliff ledges just above our heads on the \\\"sketchy\\\" part of our tour. We do not regret taking this hike in slightest, however, if we are to visit this part of Kaua\\\'i again, it will be by kayak. Speaking of kayaks, we were witness to the reason why they are not allowerd to launch or land after september on the Kalalau beach. A pair of campers were leaving one early morning and trying to launch off the beach into 4-8 foot waves. Many attempts lead to an overturned kayak, missing paddles, various supplies drifting out to sea and two very wet campers, while onlookers oo\\\'d and awe\\\'d. Overall i would suggest this trail to experienced hikers and campers. No children, elderly or sickly.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 21, 2008 4:40PM
Tim - Kalalau in winter is awesome. There is still beach, just considerably smaller than summer. The sea caves are generally in the surf zone. Still plenty of camping in the trees. If the surf gets giant - which is can in Jan - you will have awesome views from the trail, and you'll hear it wherever you are. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 21, 2008 4:48PM
Greg and Nate - thanks for the informative post. This just shows how different each hiker's perspective is. I personally have never felt near death on the Kalalau trail, but that in no way is meant to invalidate your experience. Cities scare me more than this hike. W
Sep 22, 2008 1:15AM
I have a similar question as Tim's...I'll be hiking Kalalau in early March and was wondering the same about surf, sea caves, etc. I realize it can be very rainy or dry that time of year, I've been onisland during that month before. I made it to Hanakoa in June and wanted a comparision of weather to March. Thanks to all for the input.
Sep 23, 2008 3:06AM
Aloha Julie,
My first hike to Kalalau was made in March of 2006. As you may recall, that was the winter of 43 days straight of rain and the dam break just east of Kilauea. Although not raining when I hiked in, the portion of the trail from Kee to Hanakoa was wet and very slippery and the weather cool and cloudy. I was VERY glad I had brought my hiking poles. Once past Hanakoa, however, the clouds disappeared, the temperature rose, the trail was much less slippery, and I enjoyed the other challenges of the 2nd half of the trail, which had suffered greatly from the previous month of rain. I did find out upon my return that DLNR had officially closed the trail the day after I started hiking in due to \"horrible trail conditions.\"
Now that Bill has done such a good job on widening and otherwise improving many sections of that portion of the trail it is a lot safer, something I found out during my hike in during late August this year just after the fire at Hanakapiai.
This time I wasn\'t as fortunate, finding the trail officially closed when my daughter and I arrived to begin the hike in at 6:30 one morning. We were told that although the trail was fine, our presence could interfere with helicopters dropping water on some \"hot spots\" and there were concerns about dropping loads on our heads.
Figuring that helicopters wouldn\'t be flying before daybreak and that the gendarmes had to get their rest, the next morning found us past Hanakapiai shortly before the sun came up. It was an interesting two miles climbing with head lamps on in the darkness and a fine mist falling. My daughter unknowingly stepped smack onto a large frog as we were descending to the Hanakapiai Stream and let out a blood-curdling yell as her boot softly and quickly squished poor Mr. Toad into trail kill. Thank god we didn\'t have to deal with flip-flop-wearing tourists at that early hour though.
Once again, Hanakoa was true to form as the dividing line between clouds and fair weather and we had a bright and sunny time of it from there to Kalalau, which we found to be practically deserted due to the fire-related evacuation of a few nights earlier. Thus, we were fortunate enough to re-occupy the campsite I had used 2+ years before, under the spreading noni-tree which, by the way bears fruit in late summer that, when stepped on in the dark, feels remarkably like stepping on a large trail frog--take my daughter\'s word for it.
A couple of my previous posts show a link to my photos (my name is underlined) and a more complete account of the hike in.
Have a great time, Julie. It\'s the trip of a lifetime but, paraphrasing the Lays\' Potato Chips slogan, \"Betcha can\'t go just once.\"
Aloha,
Curt
Sep 23, 2008 3:18AM
OK boys, just which one of you made the "no elderly" crack?? For many of us, age is nothing but a state of mind, and frankly I felt like a boy scout hiking the trail this year, until the kukui shells attacked. I'm looking forward to celebrating my 70th birthday two years hence by swimming again in one of the Outlaw Pools.
Aloha, Curt
Sep 23, 2008 1:36PM
(for Curt)THANKS for the info on hiking Kalalau in March! I do remember March \'06 and all the rain and the dam breaking. I was in AZ at the time, I visit Kauai often. I\'m looking forward to returning to Kauai, going past Hanakoa, and relaxing on Kalalau beach! Hope the weather is kind.
Sep 26, 2008 2:16PM
Thank you for an incredibly informative site. We are hiking the trail on Sunday - any word on current conditions? Also is it worth it (and relatively safe)to pack in fins to swim to the next beach from Kalalau?
Lastly - where in the valley should we look for mangos, guavas, or any other wild edibles? Thanks again!
Sep 27, 2008 4:17AM
Thanks for maintaining this very informative website. I was wondering if there are any issues with food storage at Kalalau. From what I've read, there don't seem to be too many critters that can get into your food. Is hanging food recommended? Thanks for any info you can provide.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 28, 2008 5:12PM
Hi Scott - the only critters at Kalalau are ants, roaches, rats and cats. Nobody hangs food but make sure it is well sealed. And watch out for the 2-legged rats! W
Sep 30, 2008 4:48PM
My girlfriend and I want to hike the trail Oct. 27-29. We are looking into booking a shuttle from the airport to the trail head on Oct. 26 and returning on the 29th. The shuttle can take up to 4 people. Cost is $188 round-trip. Is anyone interested in splitting the cost with us on those dates?
Oct 01, 2008 7:38PM
We, my husband and I, just hiked the trail for the first time a month ago on September 4, and stayed for 3 nights. We loved it!
The 1st night we stayed at Hanakoa, and we were very grateful not to have to hike the whole way in the first night 5 miles felt more like 15. We camped in the 2nd camping area across the stream, beautiful but lots of mosquitos, thank heaven for DEET , as soon as we applied it they were gone(however the 3 other natural repellants that we brought(including wristbands with vit B and citronella wipes did not hold a candle to the mosquitos. Hanakoa was beautiful.
The next morning we were up early and hiked the longest 6+ miles I have ever hiked, but boy was it worth it. We had the best \"beach front condo\" with our own private view and path to the ocean, it even came with a surbboard! We spent 2 days/nights on the Kalalau beach wondering why we didnt stay the maximum number of nights and enjoying the beauty of the beach, water falls, caves etc. etc.
The last morning we got up before the sun and headed out really early. Early enough that as we approached mile 8 we could here frogs singing while we were hiking. It was so much easier on the way out, and we hiked the whole way out in around half a day.
Like all the other 1st timers we brought to much stuff. Think light and tropic. We liked having a tent and our lightweight sleeping bags & pads, but didn\'t need so much xtra food or changes of clothes!Duh!
I would bring a minimum of 2 liters of water per person, we did and even though we refilled with filter and tablets at every possible stream we ran out twice.
If it was the rainy season I would highly recomend hiking poles, as it was dry almost the whole time we were there and we didnt miss them, but with mud it would be a whole different story.
This was by far the hardest hike I had ever done(much harder than the half marathon I did a month earlier at altitude. It was also the most rewarding and we are looking forward to doing it again!!!
The best of luck to all who are planning to do this hike in the future!
Thank you Kauai Explorer for all your valuable information and help in getting us ready for this Amazing Adventure. We will definitelly be back!!!
Oct 01, 2008 9:36PM
Aloha everyone,
I forgot to thank all of the amazing people we met while on the trail, both hikers and "residents", also a great huge thank you to Bill for maintaining the trail.
Oh, and did I mention how wonderful the stars were at Kalalau beach. Out of this world!
Also on a more cautionary note - the day before we hiked in a couple were on their way into Hanakoa when the wife/girlfriend slipped of the trail and broke her leg in the afternoon, her husband/boyfriend hiked out for assistance - she ended up being stuck of the trail overnight by herself and if the rumours were true had at least one boar come up and visit her during the night. I don't believe she was brought out of there until 11:00am the next day. Not knowing the full story I still hope everyone is careful out there!
Mahalo
Oct 02, 2008 6:03PM
Hi all,
What a great resource this site is, thanks to Winston for all the work on it!
My buddy and I did the trail Sept. 20 - 24th and had an amazing time. The trail is physically challenging if you're not in decent shape, and is indeed hairy in spots but I'm pretty sure-footed and not afraid of heights, so I was never freaked out. My friend had some anxiety coming back through the mile 6 - 8 portion, mainly because he was thinking about it all day!
I highly advise walking poles if you think you're going to have trouble in the gnarlier spots - they are a great comfort.
Staying at the YMCA Camp Naue the night before was perfect as it allowed us to lay all of our stuff out in a comfortable environment (i.e. not at the beach park by headlamp) and pack efficiently. Plus it was a secure place to park our car with our extra stuff in it (well worth the $5/night), and the caretaker gave us a ride to the trailhead. Awesome!
We did NOT pack light, so we were going to spend the first night at Hanakoa (Mile 6), but were advised by someone we met there that it's VERY muggy and buggy, and we should press on to Mile 8 where there is much better camping. Indeed, Mile 8 is a fantastic place to stop for the night. A guy named Bill has set himself up there to do trail maintenance and he's very hospitable - he even fed us soup! From there it was a pretty easy 3 miles into Kalalau Valley in the morning.
Had a fantastic couple of days in Kalalau Valley, camping at the end of the beach, until a group of yahoos arrived who were only staying for a night. Honestly, people - you're severely short-changing yourself if you hike in one day and hike out the next. Kalalau is not something to just be crossed off your list - take some time with it, for crying out loud!
On the way back, after being bone dry for three days, it started to rain, which made the trail a lot trickier and the camping less fun the last night. Definitely be prepared for rain, have your rain fly/tarp/whatever handy.
I'm definitely looking forward to coming back some day . . . it's just too amazing a hike to only do once in a lifetime! Aloha and mahalo to all who helped us out!
--Jefferson
Mike
Oct 03, 2008 7:39PM
My wife and I have been coming to Kauai for a number of years and have talked about doing this trail. This site is a great resource. Thanks so much.
On Sunday, we tackled the hike to Hanakapi`ai Beach and then on to the falls. We are in our mid-50's in good condition and handled the round trip in a little under 6 hours, spending a total of 30 minutes at the beach and the falls.
My question is: how representative is the Hanakapi`ai hike compared to the rest of the Kalalau trip? Comparable but longer? Tougher and longer? By what degree?
Thanks!
Mike
Oct 04, 2008 4:51AM
Hi,
I am going to Kuai on Oct 5, and staying in a hotel. I have permits to camp at kalalau on Oct 9 leaving Oct 11. I have heard wonderful things about this hike and I can't wait. I am just wondering, what is the best place to leave our luggage, and get to the trailhead? Are there lockers at the Airport, and is taxi the best way to go? Do you know how much cab fare is to Ke'e. Any recomendations would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Belenie
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 04, 2008 6:42PM
Hi Mike - if you can hike to Hanakapiai falls then Kalalau is within reach. The falls round-trip is 8 miles. Kalalau is 11 miles. Both are pretty tough. Hanakapiai is more wet and slippery while the hike to Kalalau involves more climbing. W
Oct 07, 2008 11:40PM
Glad I stumbled across your site! My parents invited my husband and I to hike the trail with them over Christmas, spending 4 nights total and I've been digging around doing research on the trail and conditions since I've only done the initial waterfall day hike.
So far, from what I've read the things that pop up on my radar
1) December rain can make the trail more challenging - bring poles and wet gear and be prepared for the slippery section of the 6" wide trail (oh my)
2) Surf is more dangerous in winter at Kalalau - I was hoping this wouldn't be the case but not surprised - any personal opinions on the conditions in Dec?
3) No lockers at airport and shuttle is 188/rt for up to 4 people - any feedback or recommendations from others on how they managed this in the past? Local places to store stuff and park the rental car? (We'll have a rental as we are there a few days pre and post hike)
4) Beach space at Kalalau is smaller during the winter - how is the tree space for camping? Should we have any concerns here? Doesn't seem like it will be an issue but thought I would throw that out there.
I think those are the burning questions for now, the rest have been answered by this forum! Thanks!
Oct 08, 2008 4:36PM
We just did the 8 mile round trip hike to the falls and back last week and loved every minute of it! It was definitely wet and slippery but we were able to do it in about 7 hours with a stay at the beach for 30 minutes and lunch at the falls for thirty minutes. What a beautiful hike! We recommend the couples massage on the beach at Hanelei Day Spa following the hike...what a great day!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 08, 2008 4:59PM
Hi Ali - here are some answers...
1) Yes it can rain in December but it can also be very nice and the trail is not actually only 6" wide.
2) Better watch out around the ocean on all N and W shores in winter.
3) You are right - there are no lockers. You can park your rental car at YMCA Camp Naue for $5/night. The camp is only 2 miles from the trailhead.
4) The beach is smaller, but still very large at Kalalau in winter. Plenty of campsites in the trees.
Have fun - W
curt
Oct 10, 2008 12:25AM
The only places where the trail is 6" wide is where the ocean is 600 feet directly below you. Just kidding of course. The trail is almost 12 inches wide in those spots.
Aloha,
Curt
Joel & Alison Plys
Oct 11, 2008 2:16AM
We just hiked and camped at Kalalau in September. We should have stayed longer. Hiked in on a Tuesday and out on Friday. Wednesday & Thursday we hiked to the Big Pool (3 miles from Kalalau beach). There was so much more to see, do, experience that we will definitely stay longer next time.
WHAT IS THE LONGEST YOU CAN STAY (with permits)?
We relaxed on Saturday and then did the 'Everest of Kayak Tours' with Kauai Kayak on Sunday. It's a 17 mile trip and we had FANTASTIC weather so it was quite easy. We'd highly recommend doing this if you are fit enough to see what you hiked from the ocean - very cool!
Oct 17, 2008 5:05PM
do i need a permit if i am just hiking for the day and not camping?
Oct 17, 2008 5:39PM
Is the weather usually good at the end of november?
I've heard there is lots of fruit on the trail is this true and are you allowed to eat it? Would there be any fruit at the end of november anyway?
Thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 17, 2008 11:26PM
Hi Laura - November is a mix of beautiful days and rain. If a front comes through or we get some trades mixed with moisture it will be wet. The most common fruit along the trail is guavas and you can eat as many as you find. Other fruit is very hard to find. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 17, 2008 11:28PM
Tandm - per DLNR rules you must obtain a permit any time you hike past Hanakapiai (although plenty of people ignore this rule). W
Oct 24, 2008 10:06PM
Love the site, thanks for the info. I\'m making my second trip to Kalalau from Michigan in May 2009 and this time we\'d like to swim over to Honopu beach. Can anyone tell me if this is too dangerous for decent swimmers? How is the surf in early May? Thanks!
Oct 27, 2008 2:52PM
We are super excited to hike and stay on Na Pali, though we have some last minute questions;
We have our permits for Nov 24-28, being that it is the rainier season, I am guessing we should bring a tent, do you know about the weights of the tents they rent at Peddle & Paddle? Or can we take our chances and just bring a net to sleep under the stars?
In previous posts you speak about mosquitos, how bad are they? Are they worse getting close to winter?
Thanks for all your great info!!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 27, 2008 6:49PM
Hi Chris - glad you love the site cause it is made with love. In May the swim to Honopu will be long because the beach is smaller. The trades also blow pretty strong in late spring / summer. Swimming to Honopu takes more than just strong swimmers, you have to recognize currents, weather, changes and hazards. In short, don't do it unless you REALLY know what you are doing. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 27, 2008 6:51PM
Hey We B - I would bring a good tent this time of year. Peddle and Paddle tents are poor quality. Kayak Kauai rents some decent REI tents but nothing replaces your own in terms of quality control. The mozzies have been out lately so if you are sensitive to bites then definitely bring multiple;e forms of protection. W
Oct 31, 2008 6:12PM
Thanks for putting together this trove of info!
I have a couple of questions - we're planning on hiking the entire trail sometime around end of Nov/first week of Dec. I'm wondering what the condition of the trail is like when it rains (which I guess is not uncommon at this time of the year?) Is it too slippery to be safely hike-able?
Thanks,
Kunal
Nov 06, 2008 10:20PM
Just did the trail October 20-25. It was fantastic - as beautiful, rugged, and challenging as I'd been told!
The cliffy/eroded section was not as bad as I'd imagined. My impression is that the main problem is vertigo - if you have problems with heights, you'll struggle. If not, it's very manageable. Luckily, unlike the eroded trail before and after, the cliff part itself is pretty solid footing.
A couple of other things I found that I wanted to pass on to others:
1) Make plans for your car in advance. We planned on leaving it at the YMCA, which was closed. Then we talked to Kayak Kauai, who wanted an too much money and were less than friendly. Then we called a friend-of-a-friend, who didn't have any useful advice. We finally just ended up leaving the car at the parking lot with nothing in it and all doors unlocked, and crossing our fingers. Worked out fine, but it delayed our start significantly.
2) BRING TREKKING POLES!!! I don't know why everyone doesn't use them - on the cliffy and eroded parts, not to mention the river crossings, they were absolutely invaluable.
3) Bring more water treatment tablets than you think you'll need - we ran pretty short, as you'll drink a lot in the humidity.
4) If you have a travel hammock, bring it - if not to sleep in, then to relax and nap.
Enjoy! I've got an artificial leg, so if I can do it, you can too!
Nov 08, 2008 6:15PM
I am an experienced hiker, my wife and I are coming at the end of Feb. What is the best way of getting a permit? Also you recommend not leaving a car at the trail head?
Nov 08, 2008 8:18PM
I have a few questions for those of you on the Kauai Explorer Staff. What are the odds in late January that I will not be able to do the full 11 miles on Kalalau Trail due to closesures, flooding, etc? I live in Portland, OR. and I LOVE RAIN, so I'm not to worried about the precip in terms of comfort. How are the bugs in January/February? Last but not least are there any shuttle services between the airport/trailhead? Thanks in advance!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 12, 2008 5:00PM
Hi Kunal - prepare for wet conditions on the trail (although it has been super dry lately). Safe and slippery are relative terms as hikers deal with these conditions differently. Lots of people like poles and shoes with solid traction are a must. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 12, 2008 5:07PM
Hi GCH from Portland - tough to say about the trail closures in January. The State DLNR closes the trail for some questionable reasons and does not inform hikers traveling from afar. Feel free to contact us as your date approaches. The rain will not be as persistent as you get in Portland. Prepare for bugs with a good tent and repellent. Lastly, there are no shuttles but you can park a rental car at the Y-Camp in Haena for $5 / night. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 12, 2008 5:08PM
Spencer - get your permits from the State DLNR in Lihue (as stated on this page). Better to park at YMCA Camp Naue than the trailhead if you have valuables. W
Nov 13, 2008 5:17AM
My wife and I are going to Kauai & Kalalau Nov 20-23rd.... The weather has been listed as 30-60% precip on the North end. Do you know if the trail is still open all the way, and will mosquitos be an issue at night if we are not on the beach? thanks,
Bill D.
Nov 14, 2008 11:01PM
Great site.
In the lower 48 you have to hang food to keep the critters away. Do you have to hang food on the Kalalau trail? Are there pigs, dogs or rodents that we need to worry about?
What is the condtion of the eroded sections these days. I am bringing a group of 14 at end of December and some are not very experienced hikers.
Thank you
Nov 16, 2008 3:26AM
What a great site and service you provide! Just seems to fit with your \"Paradise Island\".
Did the big island 3 years ago and found our dream vacation for the last two. We hope to stay for at least 2 monthes in 09.
We are in our mid 60s but live on a CO mtn. and are in good shape, however packing as though we were on mtn. expedition was a huge mistake. 45# packs did us in and we turned back after spending 2 nights at the 6 mile campsite. We were way heavy on everything but water...no sooner got home and got all new stuff...our first-ever poles, Tevas, LtWt packs, etc.
Only thing I can possibly add to the wealth of info posted is that we Really enjoyed having Tang type stuff for our treated water.
Can\'t wait to get back on the most incredible trail either of us has ever seen.
Mahalo!
Nov 19, 2008 7:11AM
Finished the trail for the first time on Nov. 16th. The weather hiking in a few days earlier was humid and the trail was dry. Pretty strong rain brought by the tradewinds started on the 15th. By Nov. 16th the trail was very muddy and hiking was a much different experience. Parts of the trail were extremely slippery (the red mud is the worst).
Three of the rivers were barely passable. There was a lot of teamwork on the trail, with hikers helping each other across the rivers. The rivers do rise and fall relatively quickly. At Hanakoa (Mile 6) we made the obvious mistake of stopping for a bite to eat on the wrong side of the river, and by the time we were through, the river had become a raging torrent. On the other hand, the river at Hanakapi`ai Beach (Mile 2) was initially uncrossable, but after waiting 2 hours it had gone down enough to allow careful crossing using a rope someone had strung across earlier.
A few rainy day lessons (in addition to cross the rivers when you can):
1. Poles. They came in really handy.
2. Bring a little extra food. We packed really light, but we did have an extra meal and I now realize how easy it is to be stuck because of a river.
3. Bill at Mile 8 provided a great haven from the weather. He put up a tarp so that we could cook out of the rain, and built a fire so that we could dry our clothes. He even made some great coffee. I\'m not sure why Mile 8 isn\'t an \"official\" campsite on the little green map we got with our permits, but it is very nice.
Nov 19, 2008 7:52PM
any word on the trail condition? muddy from all of the rain the last week? we are hiking tomorrow.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 20, 2008 11:43PM
Hi Bill - the trail is wet but currently open. I do recommend a good tent and repellent because the mozzies love mainland blood! W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 20, 2008 11:47PM
Hi Joe - we don't have to hang food here but you should have some means of sealing it from bugs and perhaps mice. The trail is currently open but muddy / slippery because it has been raining. Still wonderful and beautiful. The people who are coming this fall / winter are being treated to mellow crowds. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 21, 2008 12:06AM
Muddy and fun - go for it Scott.
Nov 21, 2008 12:16AM
Hi folks, me and my girlfriend hiked the trail last month, WOW, what a kick that was. I like reading about the other take on the trail, I was noticing where some are needing ride to trail head, I highly recommend kauaitourguides.com they provide a 188.00/RT up to four, from airport to Kalalau trail head, driver even stopped at camping store for supplies and as we were starving when we came off the trail a pit stop in Hanalei for food.
Nov 21, 2008 2:47PM
Just a pathetic showing by Hawaii\'s Department of Land and Natural Resources...Bill Summers has been working to help restore the trail as it was in desperate need of help. The DNLR however wants to prosecute him for doing this good deed.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008811200346
A little info on Bill and what he has done for the trail:
http://billsummers.info/index.html
Nicolai Barca
Nov 22, 2008 4:09AM
For those confused on the Hunting regulations of the area, The Kalalau Trail lies within Public Hunting Unit-G, open 365-days per year, bowhunting only, open bag limits for goats and pigs. There is no longer a rifle hunting season and has not been any for the 8 years I've been hunting out there (except for the special rifle seasons held in previous summers).
I highly encourage anybody to go after the female goats (nannies) as an improved means of lowering the population. The best hunting is between Hanakoa and Kalalau.
One of the reasons I bring this up is because there seems to be a lot of misinformation on so called "seasonal hunting opportunities." I am attempting to get these websites to update that info.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 22, 2008 7:29PM
Thanks Nicolai.
Nov 30, 2008 3:14AM
My friends and I are hiking the Kalalau trail this summer, but we are having trouble figuring out how to get the jet boil fuel to hawaii. Any suggestions?? Does anyone sell jet boil brand or do we have to go with coleman?
Dec 01, 2008 4:11AM
Hi. Some friends and I will be backpacking the Kalalau trail in late July 2009. If we rent a car, is there a safe place to park it near the trailhead? We'll be camping along the trail for 5 nights total and we're worried about leaving a rental car. If there's no safe place to park it, what is the best way to get to the trail head? Also, do you know if any stores in Kauai sell Jetboil camping stove fuel?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 02, 2008 5:18PM
Hi Rachael - two stores in Hanalei - Peddle and Paddle and Kayak Kauai - carry various types of camping fuel. Since you cannot transport fuel on commercial airlines, yours is a common request and I'm sure they can help. Personally I like my MSR stove because it can burn all kinds of fuel and you don't have to purchase those wasteful canisters. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 02, 2008 5:30PM
Hi Jessie - we do NOT recommend parking your car at the Kee trailhead. You can park at YMCA Camp Naue for $5/night, take the Kauai bus to Hanalei or use one of the shuttle services. Please see previous posts regarding camp fuel. W
Dec 02, 2008 6:24PM
Thanks for the useful information. I\'m reading conflicting info on bringing kids. We are hoping to bring 4 children (9 to 15) over the holidays this xmas. We live and hike in the Colorado Rockies (Durango), so we\'re used to hights and trails. It sounds as though there are some very dangerous, exposures. Can we do anything to protect them or is it advisable not to bring them?
Dec 03, 2008 4:14AM
Aloha!
Great website. I keep reading!
My wife and I have hiked to Hanakapiai many years ago and now would like to hike the entire Kalalau Trail - next week - and have 5 days for it. I'll call the office tomorrow to try to get permits. (Sorry for the short notice. I hope it's still do-able.)
Is it ok this time of the year?
Thanks for your answer.
Hardy
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 03, 2008 7:32PM
Aloha Hardy and thanks for using the website. Hiking is great this time of year. We hiked last week and the trail is in nice shape. W
Dec 04, 2008 3:16PM
Thanks for the really useful information. What advice would you have for hiking the entire 11 mile section with children (ages 11 to 15). We are from Durango, CO and have hiking experience, but are somewhat concerned about the demands and exposure of this trail. We have permits and are otherwise pretty ready.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 06, 2008 12:22AM
Hi Yogi - I would say with confidence that the hiking here is no more treacherous than in Durango. The volcanic rocks are generally loose so don't trust them like Granite. I have hiked the trail many times - including with my daughter when she was 5 - and I always see kids having fun on the trail. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 06, 2008 12:25AM
Hi again Yogi - at the narrowest sections of the trail the width is about 18 inches and you will be looking at significant vertical drops off the edge. I have never heard of anyone falling off but some people really get scared, most people love it. W
Dec 08, 2008 1:03AM
Aloha! We\'ll be visiting Kauai in Feb \'09 and the Kalalau trail is a must. Is it possible to acquire permits....lets say a week before the hike upon arrival, or is it advisable to get permits ahead of time(like now)? Is calling the best route to apply for permits? I\'m assuming we\'ll have to specify exact dates for our adventure as well.
Thanks KE staff, this is a wonderful resource!
Dec 08, 2008 4:31PM
Aloha and thanks for the amazing website.
I apologize for using your website for such a request as the following, so please delete it if inappropriate.
Having just now read at http://great-hikes.com/blog/kalalau-questions/ that the public bus is not an option (they apparently don't allow big baggage), I?m trying to find transport from lihue to the trailhead the morning of wednesday december 17th, and returning to lihue saturday december 20th.
If anyone wants to share a rental or go in on a shuttle or something, please let me know!
thanks ilan
ilan.elson-schwab {(At)] icr.ac.uk
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 09, 2008 4:44PM
Hi Marc - I suggest contacting the State DLNR as soon as you know your dates, NOT when you arrive. W
Lindsey
Dec 10, 2008 6:04PM
Hello!
is there a way to get from Kalaulau trail to Koke State park/Weimea Canyon by foot? Or the other way around?
I would like to hit both parks on my 10 day trip.
Is it do-able?
Dec 10, 2008 8:23PM
Hello !
I'm planning to hike the Kalalau trail and I was wondering where I could leave my luggage. I read a lot of sites saying that leaving my stuff in my car is not a good idea. Does someone know what I could do ? And is it safe to let the empty car at trailhead or should I look for another solution for the car too ?
Thank you !
Caroline
Dec 13, 2008 9:04PM
The Bus...Mon-Sat.
Airport to Lihue Big Save $.50
Lihue to Hanalei #500-$1.50
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 14, 2008 5:51PM
Hi Lindsey - there are no connecting trails from Na Pali to Kokee. It has been done - in modern and Hawaiian times - but the cliffs are steep with very loose rock. Basically you have to go around the long way via the road. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 14, 2008 5:58PM
Hi Caroline - we do not recommend leaving your car with luggage at the trailhead. This is because there is nobody around at night and the area is known for break-ins. Better to park at Haena beach park or at YMCA Camp Naue ($5 / night and 2 miles from the trailhead). W
Dec 16, 2008 4:00AM
We have permits for the Kalalau trail for 12/28-31. With all the rain we\'re getting I wanted to find out how the trail is holding up... is the north side of Kauai getting this weather?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 16, 2008 6:00PM
Hi A & B - the trail is open. I hiked on Saturday and had a blast in the rain. We have had plenty rain but Kauai has good drainage. W
Dec 18, 2008 4:07PM
Thank you for your answer. Another question : do you know if it is possible to apply and get the hiking permit in advance ? I did that for the camping permits (they should be on the way) but I can't find anything about the hiking permit, except "going to the DLNR" in Lihue.
Dec 18, 2008 7:55PM
We just hiked the Kalalau Trail last week... and got out just before the storm hit. The trail was extremely slippery and muddy. Wear GOOD TRACKING boots. Pack light. We got our permits when we got to Lihue with no problem. When you get to Kalalau Beach, you will see that there are people that live out there, even though they're not supposed to. Very kind people we met.
Dec 18, 2008 10:52PM
Thanks for this great website. My wife and I (both over 60 but have hiked with backpacks before) are just back from our trip to the Kalalau Beach, and like to share some information which others might find useful. I had found by mapquest a hotel within walking distances. www.kauaipalmshotel.com 1.5 miles from the airport and a few blocks from the Permit Office at 3060 Eiwa Street, Room 306. We arrived at Lihue airport Tuesday Dec 9th at 6:30 pm, walked with our backpacks to the hotel, $ 83.56 incl tax for the night. Hotel was not fancy but clean and ok with down to earth food places within 200 yards. We had a good dinner at Lihue BBQ Inn with local food - no tourists there besides us, not expensive, good Japanese food & sake. They were open also next morning at 6:30 for breakfast. Waitress asked about our plans and was worried to hear we planned to go to Kalalau, and warned that a BIG storm was coming in. We then walked over the Permit Office, where we were at 7:45. They start at 8:00, but the office was open already. They took our permit application and money (no credit cards, bring cash!) sharp at 8:00, and we had our permits by 8:10, for first night at Hanakoa 6 miles, despite reports on this website that it?s not so nice, but we did not think that with getting permit this morning and then having to get out to the trail head we could have a start early enough to make it all the way to Kalalau. 4 further nights at Kalalau. We asked about the storm, they did not know (but at home before we left the weatherforecast had also not looked too nicely, but it was dry now). The bus Lihue-Hanalei Main Line has bus stop at Lihue Big Save, right across from the permit office, and we had still time to get some crackers at the Big Save and still made the bus at 8:34 (bus leaves every 2 hours, and we hadn?t thought that we would make this bus already, so were 2 hours ahead! Bus info at www.kauai.gov ) to Hanalei at 9:44. In Hanalei get off at the Hanalei Post office (second to last stop!) We didn?t know and stayed on to the last stop at Hanalei Court house. My wife then walked back the few hundred yards to get camping stove gas at the Peddle & Paddle in the Ching Yang Center - which is at the Post office stop. She was back by around 10:15 and we hitchhiked on. First car took us half the way, second the rest. Both easy. Starting the trail at Ke?e beach at 10:50. River crossing at Hanakapi?ai was ok, and hikers coming out suggested a good camp site at 8 miles next to a small Helicopter pad on the cliffs over the ocean, as being much nicer than Hanakoa. It?s not an official site, so for that reason probably nowhere mentioned, but verbally many told us too. Although we looked, we did not see any mile markers (other than 3 and 10). The scary part around mile 7 was ok for us, some loose gravel to make it a bit slippery but manageable. We were at the mile 8 camp around 4 pm, and although timewise we probably could have still made it to Kalalau with 2 more hours of daylight, this was a great site so we stayed with the two other tents which were there already. At 6:15 the storm set in furiously with hard rain and thundershowers all night, windgusts we estimated up to 70 mph, tree branches coming down, one onto the tent, a wild night, with me having some concern what if a big gust picks up the tent with us and sails us over the cliff. But as you see, that didn?t happen. It rained all next day. One couple decided to go back out again despite the rain and slippery trail. The other hiker and we decided to stay and ride it out. Next night was dry, but following morning some rain again. We went on to Kalalau when it cleared a little. The first half mile was the scariest part for me (besides the storm night), as the trail was high, narrow, and now from the rain wet and very slippery at times, with me trying to hang on the small roots etc. My wife had less problems here, to her the mile 7 stretch had been scarier with some loose gravel making it slippery there, although that had still been dry then. We wondered how the folks made it out the day before in heavy rain. River crossing at Kalalau was ok. Rain got heavier again after we got to the beach, and very heavy again all night, again gusts, and heavy thundershowers. Some campers had gathered under the Ranger shelter and said they were just in survival mode. When we arrived there was the one main waterfall, next morning there were 5 big ones and unnumbered small ones with rivers gushing down. One hiker arrived and had lost his backpack when crossing the river. Continued raining all day. Radio forecast predicted clearing only by Monday. We wrote off our flight home on Tuesday, but had enough food and our daughter?s good tent stayed dry. Weather cleared Saturday late afternoon, and stayed ok during the night. I suggested to try to make it out to the 8 mile camp perhaps late afternoon if it stayed dry. Kalalau River was crossable late morning, so we went around 11 am, despite our worst fears that trail section might be washed away, trail was actually ok, and at scary mile 7 part the gravel was washed away, so made it actually better for my wife. We gave us high 5's after that. We arrived at Hanakapi?ai around 5 pm, and heard from others that a Ranger had closed the Hanakapi?ai river crossing all day, and the road to Hanalei had been closed for two days too because the bridges had been under water ! We camped overnight, and next morning crossed the river with dry feet on the rocks close to the surf. Hitchhiked to Hanalei, first car took us, stayed overnight there at Hanalei Inn (very nice & close to bus stop but $166 incl. tax.) Took bus 7:20am from Hanalei to Lihue Big Save by 8:32. ($ 0.75 for each of us over 60:-) Lihue shuttle bus from there 8:34 to airport 8:56 (could have walked in probably almost the same time) and made our flight home in plenty of time! My wifes comment: ?What a great trip - how lucky we were!? Which proves: It?s all attitude in life :-)
Aloha & Mahalo
hardy
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 20, 2008 6:46PM
Hi again Caroline - if you have a permit to camp at Kalalau you have a permit to hike the trail. The link to the State DLNR is on this page. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 20, 2008 7:09PM
Great story! Thanks Hardy.
Dec 24, 2008 1:34AM
Very helpful site.
I am hiking the trail in mid Jan. I have read that Honopu Beach is one of the most beautiful beaches in the Pacific. I was wondering how long the swim was, how long it would take and if it is even possible in the winter. I will have fins and snorkel gear. Is it worth it???
Dec 25, 2008 2:14AM
We\'re planning to do the Kalalau Trail in Feb/08 and I discovered you can store your car at KayakKauai in Hanaeli for $11.00 a day; 15minutes from the trailhead. Take a taxi there.
Bill
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 26, 2008 5:04PM
Hi Chris - you better be a word-class waterman to attempt swimming from Kalalau to Honopu in January. First, you'll have to read the daily surf conditions (and it could very likely be huge that time of year). Additionally the beaches are much smaller in Winter which means that the swim could be 10X farther than in summer when there plenty sand. Don't get into trouble because help is a long way off. W
Dec 30, 2008 4:51AM
I am planning on hiking the trail next week. Any news on condition of the trail, especially miles 6-8? Has it been pretty muddy?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 31, 2008 6:47PM
Hi Jack - yes it has been raining and yes it is muddy. Miles 6-8 will be slippery if it is wet. Everyone is different in terms of comfort level. If you fear heights then that section will be a challenge. W
Jan 02, 2009 5:38AM
Just back from hiking the trail Dec 30-31. Trail was a breeze (relatively speaking) on the way out. Miles 6-8 were actually my favorite portion. Rained all night. Hiking back trail was much more slippery, muddy with portions of trail becoming a stream. Mile 7 was a challenge from a mental standpoint. On the plus side, many, many beautiful waterfalls appeared. Walking poles a definite plus. We were encouraged to cancel our hike during the days prior, but are all very glad that we did not listen. Trail was difficult but definitely doable.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 02, 2009 6:16PM
Good post Jeff - who told you to cancel? W
Jan 02, 2009 7:29PM
In a couple of weeks, we plan on hiking only the first two miles since we are still amateur hikers. Do we still need permits?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 02, 2009 8:33PM
Hi Dominic - you do not need permits to hike Hanakapiai. W
Jan 03, 2009 5:51PM
Is there any "formal" lodging available near the trailhead? I'd like to fly in and get to Pedal and Paddle to get fuel the first day, stay overnight by the trailhead, then do a couple days at Kalalau Beach before heading back. Been having a hard time finding any information on local lodging for some reason.
Also, you consistantly reccomend against solo hiking, any reason for that other than that fact its obviously dangerous on any trail if you're not experienced at it? I'm an avid solo hiker, but if there's anything in particular about this trail that makes it more dangerous, I'd be interested in hearing it.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 04, 2009 5:32PM
Hi Llarian - the closest to formal lodging near the trailhead is YMCA Camp Naue. It is 2 miles from Kee and offers hot showers, bunks, tenting and is quiet. The cost is $15 / per person per night. Also I think that solo hiking is great if you are experienced and prudent. W
Jan 04, 2009 9:27PM
I have a question:
Does the trail go in a loop, or do you go back the same way you came? If it's not a loop, I assume you'll pass by the same scenery going back?
Thanks!
Jan 04, 2009 11:02PM
I am traveling with my pregnant wife. Are there restrictions on types of water filtering that one can do with a pregnant woman? Tablets of iodine we are told are not recommended. She is 4 months pregnant and a great hiker but the chemistry is important.
Also what level of tent do you recommend?? HIking in Jan around 24 to 26th.
tks Love your site.
RAJ
Jan 06, 2009 3:00AM
Hi there! I just read David Lurk's blog about Kalalau Beach, and I am inspired to go there.
Is it true that there is a hippie community that lives off the land year-round? Are they welcoming to people who visit and stay for a while?
If I wanted to be befriend them, what sort of things would they appreciate as gifts?
Thank you,
Ronald D.
Jan 06, 2009 11:27PM
Hi! I was really curious about your answer to "Bruce" about bringing children on the hike. We have an 8 and 6 year old and a 2 year old (would carry him in a pack). We hike and camp with them all. What do you think about doing some or all of the trail?
Chuck
Jan 07, 2009 4:48AM
I know the risk of saying anyone can do this trail, but most hikers only hike down to Hanakapihe`ai Beach and onto the falls. We have hiked and seen very elder hikers, hikers with no shoes, teenagers jogging even on the narrowist parts and other areas in the rocks. It isn't easy, but I believe most people given the desire and willingness to get muddy will find the trail unforgetable.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 07, 2009 4:57PM
Hi Louis - Kalalau trail is NOT a loop. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 08, 2009 3:51PM
Hi Karen - since it sounds like you are a hiking family the trail should be fine with a 2 year old. I don't know if you are thinking about a day hike or going all the way to Kalalau. Kalalau is 11 miles each way. Hanakapiai is a great day hike to check out the conditions - I hiked 2 days ago and it was a muddy as it gets. I suggest a recon before you go backpacking. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 08, 2009 3:56PM
Hi Rob - I'm hesitant to give different advice for your pregnant wife, other than the general statement that all of your water should be treated. Don't know about the iodine relative to her pregnancy - I have never liked using the tablets. For tents I use a 3 season MH that has the ability to withstand rain and wind. The biggest problem I have is that it gets too hot in the tent. Thanks W
Jan 12, 2009 1:57PM
Thanks for all the great info on this site. We are planning to hike to Kalalau and spend one night and hike out the next day at the end of the month. I was wondering on the type of footwear you think would be best.
Jan 12, 2009 6:03PM
We will be visiting Kauai for the first time. For those of us not wanting to conquer the Kalalau trail but just wanting a a little taste of a view and a short hike in and out, are there any openings for a halfway decent view prior to 2 miles in?
Jan 13, 2009 4:02PM
My husband and I just returned from an unforgettable trip to Kauai. We wanted to give a big THANK YOU to this website for all the information that helped to make our hike to Hanakapiai Falls as amazing as it was!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 13, 2009 5:45PM
Hi Vicki - even if you only hike the first .5 mile of the Kalalau trail you will be stoked. There is an amazing view of Na Pali at a spot unofficially called "windy point." Go as far as you feel and be sure to explore the area around Kee as well. I see a lot of visitors make the long drive and never get out of the car! W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 13, 2009 5:55PM
Hi Amy - my favorite footwear are the trail runners (Soloman makes some great shoes but there are other brands). Many people prefer the support of hiking boots. I do NOT recommend Teva-type sandals because the mud gets between your foot bed and sole. My only other comment is that 1 night is not long enough to explore Kalalau. W
Jan 14, 2009 6:24AM
Hi, My husband and I are getting to Kauai on Saturday and were hoping to hike the Kalalau trail on Sunday and camp, then head out on Monday. Is it too late to get a permit? I've been trying to call the office in Lihue and no one answers and the mailbox is full. Any suggestions?!
This is an awesome site!! Thanks for all of the great tips.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 14, 2009 5:33PM
Hi Tate - if the DLNR is not answering your calls or emails I really do not know how to help. You could try contacting another office. It's too bad that you travel a long way to Kauai and attempt to follow the rules, but are not serviced by the organization tasked (and funded) to manage the park. W
Jan 14, 2009 10:12PM
I have read some posts about bringing children and going the full length of the trail in and out in one day. INSANE! Do not try either one. This was the most amazing thing I have ever done but you must be smart and very well prepared. Literally, people die. Kids are probably cool on the first two miles. It is very touristy. The rest of the hike is a no-joke, kick your butt, most beautiful and dangerous thing most people will ever try. I recommend it to fit and adventurous people. But, seriously, why would you drag a kid across a swollen river and off of shear cliff faces, up and down five valleys or risk getting stuck in the jungle with them for days due to a flash flood? Stupid.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 15, 2009 8:36AM
Aloha Brandon - your perspective of the Kalalau trail may be accurate for you and others, but it is not the only perspective. Bringing children is totally acceptable and wonderful if you are prepared and experienced. Obviously this is not a a good introductory kid's hike. But I have hiked with many kids to Hanakapiai falls (8 miles) and they did great. Kids do better than most adults. My daughter and I first hiked Kalalau when she was just 7 and it was no problem for her. It's a matter of conditioning. As for adults, running / hiking the trail 1 way is a good challenge that any seasoned trail-runner / hiker. Then there are the super-fit guys (and girls) that I have seen go in and out in 1 day with no problem. Seriously. I'm glad it was the most amazing thing you have ever done. People die in flooded streams and the ocean - but I have heard no reports of people falling off the trail. The cliff faces are not shear and the rivers are normally not swollen. So, I respectfully disagree with you. It is not "insane." Na Pali is not "touristy." It is not the "most dangerous thing I have ever tried" and certainly not "stupid." Perspective. W
Jan 16, 2009 1:42PM
Reply to Ronald: Regarding the folks who \"live off the land\" in the valley. We befriended several of these folks during our brief stay in September. In terms of \"gifts\" I\'d stick to the essentials, namely food and footwear. Any food you can leave behind for them will be appreciated and it helps lighten your outbound load too. One of the residents was kind enough to spend two days showing us the \"hidden\" treasures of the Kalalau. We saw some fascinating countryside and even got to dodge Coast Guard helicopters hovering over the forest looking for weed growers. However, in all our moving about, his Soloman shoes finally disintegrated, leaving him shoeless. So when we got back to Hanalei, we purchased a pair of sandals for him and gave them to one of his compadres at the Hanalei public beach to take back to him. Hopefully he got them.
By and large these folks are intelligent and friendly, though as you might expect a few were none-to-happy to have \"tourists\" know too much about their activities. I suggest you check in with \"Mayor Ron\" when you get there and learn more about their style of living firsthand. His Boston accent is still strong after 30 years of \"living off the land.\"
Aloha, Curt
Jan 16, 2009 3:53PM
Thank you W for putting things in perspective.
I can see your perspective also Brandon - there are kids that I would never ever want on a trail like this - but I also think there are grown-ups that are equally scary to imagine on this hike. I think it is mostly about the preparation and also what interests you as a human being.
I am a scuba instructor and I have seen 10 year olds that I would rather have as my scuba buddy on a dive than many adults that I have seen on many dive trips. IE I would also rather do this hike, with a well-hiked, well-prepared, well-behaved 7-12 year old, than with many adults.
A question for you W(kauai explorer staff) - when you have hiked with children do they usually cary their own pack? If so what is the recomended weight ratio for a child? Or would I as an adult carry their stuff and just have them carry snacks and maybe water?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 16, 2009 6:48PM
Hi Anette - I'm glad you understood the intent of my reply to Brandon. Truth is that most kids are in motion all day long and therefore better equipped than more sedentary adults. Another observation is that most kids key into the energy / attitude of their parents or supervisors. I have seen some throw fits, while others are completely in the moment of exploring. It is important to provide the correct equipment and nourishment to keep them going. Kids need good footwear, light packs (if any), nourishment and constant reminders to drink water BEFORE they are thirsty. When my daughter was young I carried everything, now she has a small CamelBack. Acutal weight depends on the kid. Hope this helps.
Jan 17, 2009 9:46PM
I'll be heading to Kauai next week to check out some of these hikes. This is a great site and has alot of great info. I currently live on the Big Island and have hiked pretty much everywhere there is to hike here so it's time to expand my horizons! I see your expanding to the other islands. Being an avid hiker and snorkeler of the Big island I would be more then willing to help out with information, pictures, and anything else you might need. Thanks again for the great site.
Jan 19, 2009 3:04AM
Thank you so much for having this blog as we found it very useful when planning our trip to hike the Na Pali Coast. Five of us hiked it in early January and spent the first few hours in the pouring rain, which made for extremely muddy and slippery trail conditions. But what is a little mud? Most of the people in my group are in good shape (marathoners) but some found it more tough than others.
Now for the specifics--
We began at dawn and it took us 2 hours to reach Hanakapai (perhaps it being so muddy didn\\\'t help our time).
What followed was beautiful and not so bad, but the first hiccup was a stream crossing. Perhaps because it was raining so heavily this stream was pretty full. I recommend taking water shoes since we found hopping on slippery rocks with a backpack was too scary for several members of my group (mostly me). Otherwise, just tons of switchbacks and a fair amount of elevation.
Once we got to mile 7 where it becomes arid (and at that point the sun was hitting us so drink LOTS of water before this) it became down right terrifying for some and just a little unnerving for others. This mostly depends on how well you handle a trail that is a foot wide with drop offs to the sea. This lasts about a mile. Take your time (a walking stick helps) and it\\\'ll be ok. Once we made it to mile 8 you\\\'re clear of all but one of the scary parts.
A note about mile 8. Along the hike we met several people that told us that they camped at mile 8 (unofficial) and that it was much better than the end. Not true. There is a small camping area and a nice stream a few yards away but don\\\'t camp here unless you are spending more than a few nights at the end and just need a break.
At this stream is where one of our hikers became quite dehydrated and didn\\\'t think she could make it to the end. Other members of our group took her backpack and walked the last few miles at a very slow pace. The resident bow hunters (yes, they told us they had a permit) at mile 8 told us the rest of the way was EASY and all downhill and based on that we didn\\\'t think taking the sick hiker the final miles would be a problem. THat was not true. In fact, just after the stream there is a short part that is much scarier than mile 7, but since it is so short just don\\\'t look down and it\\\'ll be over. After that it was not exactly easy. There were a fair amount of switchbacks and an elevation climbs. It took a toll on the sick hiker and the folks carrying her stuff.
Before you start your steep steep descent down a trail that doesn\\\'t really look like a trail you will see the sign for the Kalalau Trail (or maybe it was after the steep part we just remember). Either way, it is still a while before you get to the beach. Before you reach the end you have to cross another stream. In this case, it was more of a full, fast-flowing river. This is where my water shoes came in handy (though others nimbly skipped over the slippery rocks). At this point, so close to the end, I think I saw two dogs skipping up the trail followed by a completely naked girl. It fit.
After crossing the stream we continued down to the beach to find a campsite. There are a few people that seem to live there that are not in the best camping spots. We found a spot right next to the beach and had just enough time to set up our tent, check on the sick hiker, and take a few pictures before it was dark. I believe that for the sick hiker we could have made it to the end with several daylight hours to spare. Oh, and there was a monk seal resting on the beach, which was just so perfect.
Don\\\'t forget to look at the stars. They seem wonderfully close.
If you pack up at 7am with plans to hike back out be prepared to have the residents stare at you like you are crazy for missing out on the experience of Kalalau. We contribute this to poor planning and if we were to do it again we would most certainly stay there for AT LEAST two nights (we want to go back and camp for 5).
If you can manage in your pack, bring a little extra for the long time campers at Kalalau. They were very kind to us and gave us Emergen C packets for our sick hiker. We heard that they have nightly \\\"swap\\\" meetings to exchange stuff gathered throughout the day. So if you have extra, think about leaving with them. When I go back I will definitely take a bottle of tequila and lots of books.
Our return hike didn\\\'t take as long (the long time campers told us it would take one and a half hours less and they were right). After the steep climb out of Kalalau the first few miles are very easy.
Other comments to things I\\\'ve seen posted on this blog:
1. Walking sticks are a must
2. Iodine works for the water
3. Pack light
4. Didn\\\'t find rain gear necessary even though we were rained on for the first two miles (you dry out).
5. Bring extra socks
6. Stay more than 1 night
7. Several people in our group took just sleeping liners instead of bags and that was a good exchange for weight (but it does get cool at night so bring tights).
If you want to see some photos feel free to check out my kauai set (the na pali post pics are few pages in): http://www.flickr.com/photos/sushicircus/
and another set that has really good pics is http://flickr.com/photos/schmandtfamilydoesiran2006/sets/72157612566379210/detail/
I can\\\'t wait to do it again!
KG
Jan 19, 2009 5:24PM
My husband and I would like to hike entire 11 mile Kalalau trail - but are not able to camp overnight since we have children that will not be coming with us. Is it possible start at Kalalau Valley trailhead and hike back? If so, what types of services are out there to get us there early in the morning?
Jan 19, 2009 6:24PM
I plan on hiking and camping this trail with a few girlfriends Feb 3rd-9th.
Any tips, weather, permit help, etc?!
Curt
Jan 19, 2009 7:09PM
<b> An Opportunity for Islanders and Vistors to help with Science on \"Service Day, 2009\" <b>
If you visit the web site linked to this message, you will note that Professor Rob Holman at Oregon State University, has one of the world\'s largest collections of beach sand in his laboratory. He\'s a friend of mine and is always looking for more information on the global distribution of beach material.
So if you have an opportunity to collect some sand from remote Hawaiian beaches like Kalalau, Nualolo, or Niihau, take a pill bottle, zip lock bag, or film cannister with you and slip some sand from the beach (or dump some out of your boots or tent) into the container, let him know where and when you acquired it, and mail it off to the good Professor. I\'m sure he\'ll be happy to include your contribution in his collection if he doesn\'t have a sample from your beach already.
Cheers
Curt
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 20, 2009 12:55AM
Hi Lyssa - the tips are pretty much all here if you read through them. Weather is always changing. Today is super beautiful and tomorrow it's gonna get stormy again. You guys will have fun. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 20, 2009 12:57AM
Hi Jane - you can get dropped off at Kalalau by boat but that service is not organized or legal. In Winter you would need to be an expert ocean swimmer / surfer to deal with the surf at Kalalalu. Perhaps you should just hike to Hanakoa and back (12 miles). W
Jan 20, 2009 7:49AM
i'm planning on hiking the entire eleven miles and camping for a night or two in mid march. just wondering what the probability of flash flooding and heavy rains will be. i know it's impossible to predict the weather but, if there are such events will i have an out or should i just wait it out? also, i will have a water filter but should i be concerned about more than giardia and e. coli and the usual critters in the h20? p.s. i live in big sur, ca and am used to nature always winning.
Jan 21, 2009 5:32PM
Wanted to thank the Kauai Explorer Staff for this site. We had an amazing time on our 5 day hike. We had 4 adults and 4 kids (10-15 yrs old). The kids elected to go all the way to Kalalau Beach on the first day, so we pushed it and made it for sunset (Dec. 23). No problems, but the way out pounded rain the entire way! Used rope to get across river, but this is stuff we\'ve done in Durango, CO where we live. Useful info that we followed: go light, watch the north swell, light footwear, pick lots of fruit (yummy java plums!), and have a blast.
Aloha,
Yogi
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 22, 2009 1:24AM
Hi Sara - yes is can rain in March but it could also be totally clear. You just gotta go for it and be prepared. Bring a good tent. If it really is flooding you should just wait it out rather than cross a flooded steam. The flood events rarely last more than a few hours. For filtration I personally use a filter but the State of Hawaii Dept. of Health (and filter manufacturers) will not certify that it is 100% effective. This is primarily because they do not want to be liable - and nor does Kauai Explorer. Boiling and iodine are the only officially 100% safe water treatments. W
Jan 25, 2009 4:28AM
I'm also interested in what Ronald Dooley has asked about ,mostly because I've heard rumors of it as well.
So... is there a hippie-esque colony living around the na pali coast.. or is that fake?... or what?
Any light you could shed on the subject would be fantastic.
Thanks again
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 25, 2009 6:21PM
Kyle - since I was a kid there have been various people living at Kalalau. There are all kinds of styles so it's hard to classify them as "hippies." There are friendships, gatherings and even a sweat lodge but no organized colony (at least that we know of). Some people stay completely to themselves. W
Jan 25, 2009 7:47PM
This comment board has been an amazing source of information, thanks so much! My husband and I are planning on hiking the trail in March and spending two nights at Kalalau. My main question is about getting to and from the trailhead. It seems like there is a bus system, but does it start running pretty early? Is there any kind of shuttle system to the trailhead from local accomadations? Thanks!
Jan 25, 2009 8:09PM
check my post here on 16 Jan, Kyle. Colony? I wouldn't call it that. But loosely organized social group and other more solitary individuals, they are for real, and worth knowing if you want to hear some interesting tales.
Jan 25, 2009 11:15PM
I'll be hiking the trail mid-February with a friend. Wondering how many other campers we can expect on the beach. Any estimates?
Jan 26, 2009 2:41PM
Thanks for all the great info on this site. My husband and I are hiking in Jan.31 any updates on the trail conditions. We have our permit and are really looking forward to the adventure. Thanks again this site it has really helped in our preparation for the trip.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 26, 2009 5:18PM
Hi Amy - the trail is in good shape. We hiked it yesterday. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 26, 2009 5:20PM
Hi Steven - I think the State DLNR issues up to 80 camping permits. There will probably be less than that at Kalalau and there is plenty of space down there. W
Jan 27, 2009 1:55AM
Oh W!!!!! YOU HIKED IT YESTERDAY?????
I am so friggin jealous!! Forecast here is for continued sub-freezing weather, snow followed by sleet followed by friggin' freezin' friggin rain! Oh to be on the Kalalau Trail instead. I'd even be happy to slip on a few kukui nuts just to enjoy being out there once again.
Curt
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 27, 2009 4:53PM
Hi Beth - the bus runs to Hanalei and then many people hitch a ride to the trailhead in Haena. Otherwise you can rent a car and park it at YMCA Camp Naue for $5 / night. Our E-book has more info on bus routes. W
Ralph Snardfarker
Jan 28, 2009 2:16AM
Would you be willing to provide any more information regarding the old route, people who have done it recently, maps etc?
Nicole - Kalalau to Kokee has been done in the past, there even was a Hawaiian trail. People have also lost their lives trying to hike up the 3000'+ back wall of the valley. No trail, lava rock and cliffs are not a good combo. W
Jan 28, 2009 3:25AM
Thanks so much! We are mailing in the permit application today. Can't wait to be enjoying the amazing North coast.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 29, 2009 4:20PM
Hi Ralph - I know a number of people who have hiked out of Kalalau to Kokee. I only know that they made the hike and approximately where they went up the back wall, nothing more. I also had a friend who died hunting at the back of Kalalau. W
Jan 30, 2009 5:52PM
I am wondering if Bill Summers is still in the area? I really enjoyed meeting him and was very grateful for his work on the trail when I hiked last year. I was looking through the website link on an earlier post, and thought I would send him a small check in hopes he can afford to stay on the trail a little longer.
Jan 30, 2009 11:43PM
there is much peace in the kalalau valley and beach. dont abuse heaven on earth.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 01, 2009 5:26PM
Hi Jason - Bill is still around and still doing good work on the trail. The State DLNR is trying to prosecute him for illegal hunting but they probably should be trying to figure out how to give him a full time position! Don't know of any way to make a donation. W
Feb 01, 2009 10:11PM
When I met Bill last summer, he said there was a store in Hanelei that took donations for his work. I can't remember the name of the store, but I'll be back on the trail in March and hope to see Bill again!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 01, 2009 11:00PM
Julie - I've heard that you can leave donations at Wainiha Store, but have not verified that personally. W
Feb 02, 2009 5:16AM
Regarding donations for Bill, I'm thinking that Arius Hopman has or would be willing to pass along donations to Bill, since he spends so much time at Kalalau. He can be contacted at info@hopmanart.com in Hanapepe.
Feb 02, 2009 6:37AM
This website mentions a PO Box in Hanalei where you can send Bill a check:
http://billsummers.info/index.html
Also, if you scroll back to November 21st, there is another link to a newspaper article about DLNR trying to prosecute him. I guess DLNR would rather spend their resources flying helicopters into Kalalau to look for permit violations than actually doing any work on the trail. Boo for them, and three cheers for Bill!
Justin
Feb 02, 2009 6:59AM
To the several readers that were wondering if there was a way to donate to Bill Summers' efforts on Kalalau, there was a post a year or so ago on this site listing this site, http://www.billsummers.info/ . I have no way to verify if it is "legit" though.
I've run into Bill several times, in my opinion he is doing a great service being caretaker for an area that has been shown too little care for too long.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 02, 2009 4:52PM
Good post Curt and Bill - did you know that the DLNR spends a huge amount of their budget using expensive helicopters to remove trash. A live-in ranger at Kalalau would provide aloha, safety, pack out your trash guidance and discourage other abuses of the park. Our DLNR chooses instead to do trash and enforcement raids - no wonder there is no money and no maintenance. When I was a kid, the rangers loved Na Pali and frequently stayed there. It was really cool. W
Feb 03, 2009 12:20AM
About 15 years ago my (ex) wife and I visited Kauai and stayed on the north shore. I was training for a marathon at the time and I thought it would be a great training RUN to bag the trail, roundtrip, in one day. I started out on the trail with some protein bars, trail mix, some fruit and two small bottles of water, thinking I would find replacement potable water somewhere along the way. I believe it was July or August. Well, I did run the first 11 miles out to the beach and I made great time. I even skinny dipped like everyone should. But I had to walk back because I ran out of water and there was no water on the trail. I tried begging water off people but there was no way they would give up their supply. I was very tempted to drink the trickles of goat poop infested water along the trail but didn't (in retrospect I probably should have).
When I reached the beginning of the trail having made the second 11 miles without water I met some people at their car who had those small apple juice containers for their kids. They were kind enough to give me a couple and I remember sucking down the first one and feeling the life-saving nectar course through my veins.
Yes this trail it is a little treacherous in places and it is beautiful as everyone will tell you. But it won't be a happy trip if you don't have enough water. I have not read the hundreds of notes here, but let me say this: PACK AS MUCH WATER AS YOU THINK YOU WILL NEED, THEN DOUBLE IT.
The roundtrip is possible in one day if you are in excellent shape. If you are not running at least 30 miles a week or the equivalent in other exercises and you can't carry 30-40 pounds on your back, then don't even try it.
Good luck to you who make the roundtrip - it is harder than a flat marathon. Trust me.
Feb 03, 2009 3:26PM
Hey there, I'm wondering what kind of fruit I can expect to see, and hopefully taste when I go to kauai. I've been trying to find all the information I can about growth patterns, and flowering seasons and all of that stuff, but when it comes right down to it, I can't find any ACTUAL information on when fruits are actually on the trees ready to eat, or what kinds there are.
So my short question is; What kinda of fruits can be found on kauai, where abouts are they mostly located, and when during the year are they edible.
Feb 04, 2009 4:23AM
Yeah, W, when we were there in August and the locals were showing us around the valley floor, I got a couple of great photos of the underside of a CG chopper.
All that money wasted to bust a few guys just tryin to make a livin off the land.
This country made the right choice for president; maybe some sanity can be injected into the bureaucracy as well.
Aloha
Feb 04, 2009 6:24PM
my husband and i would like to come and visit to hike and camp. when is the best month for this activity and how do i apply for permits? thanks!
Feb 04, 2009 8:30PM
How\'s the fishing @ Kalalau around Feb. I know wave conditions, etc..effect accordingly but thought I\'d bring my Ugly stick and try some whipping w/ rubber \"scroungers\"...any ideas/suggestions??? Tanks eh!
Feb 05, 2009 2:46AM
I have a very tough decision to make and was hoping for some input from this wonderful and friendly group. As part of our vacation this spring, I really want to spend some time on Kauai. But due to other commitments, we only have 4 days (arrive Sunday leave Thursday). So, I am wondering if it is worth it to spend most of that time on the Kalalau trail or if that should be saved for another trip. I had wanted to hike in one day, spend two nights then hike out. So, if it were your first visit to the island would you explore a little more or dive into the really good stuff (i.e. Kalalau)? Thanks for any input!
Nathan
Feb 05, 2009 4:25AM
My group of 4 just got back from the trail (1/30/09) and it was in great shape. Very muddy at first, but then we had no rain for our 2 days on the trail (stayed on the beach overnight) and there was a lot less mud on the way back. Really only had mud in the last 2 or 3 miles on the return trip. Both rivers were nice and low, safe enough to wade across easily. Plus, the "scary part" after mile 7 must either have been vastly improved, or exaggerated from the various reports, because it wasn't any more tricky than other parts of the trail. The main difference was there were no trees to break your fall, and you could actually see the cliff face, so it was mostly just the perception of danger that was greater there. On the return trip, I actually had to ask my friends "did we just pass through the "scary part?". :)
Temperatures were great on the beach. Had a tent and a silk sleeping bag liner. That, plus 2 pairs of socks, leg extensions to my convertible pants and a light jacket kept my warm enough all night, even on the beach. I didn't need to carry a bulky sleeping bag all the way out there. Had an emergency blanket, too, but I didn't use it.
Mosquitoes along the trail and at the small waterfalls were very bad. Bring bug spray. The sun can beat down pretty hard, even in January, so bring sunscreen and reapply halfway through, perhaps at the 6 mile camp.
I plan to post LOTS of photos, video and my Google Earth / GPS track to my site, www.Hammerfel.com , but if you have any questions in the meantime, please email me at hammerfel at gmail.com. Thanks! this thread was the BEST resource for trail info ANYWHERE on the web! :)
Feb 05, 2009 10:17PM
My brother and I will be coming in from Oahu to hike the trail. As information above dictates, I see you can take the bus to Hanalei and then hitch to Haena. We were thinking of staying at the YMCA that you had recommended. Do you know how far the YMCA is from the actual trailhead? Is it walkable or will we have to hitch there too? Thanks for any help you can give!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 08, 2009 5:53AM
Hi Kyle - bananas, papayas and guavas grow year round. Seasonal fruit includes oranges, avocados, mangoes, citrus, lychee and a number of other tropicals. This site is admittedly not an expert resource for edible fruit. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 08, 2009 5:59AM
Most of the info is here Vicki.
Feb 08, 2009 6:48PM
Hey there.....
I\'m going with my partner camping this next week to Kauai and we are going to camp along the Na Pali coast trail. Our plan is to hike in the 11mi the first day, camp and hike out 1/2 way the next day, camp and out the last.
I am used to camping in the northwest and have never camped on the beach. I can imagine that we may/may not be able to do this and maybe upland.
My question is: Inflatable pack mattress ?? Or no??
We are having a debate and I don\'t wanna be unprepared. Thanks!
Steve
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 09, 2009 3:56PM
Hi Paul - Feb is not the best month for fishing at Kalalau but you might get something if there is an inside channel and you get into some Papio. Expect it to be pretty rough. W
Feb 09, 2009 5:00PM
We are hiking 2/18/2009 - 2/25/2009
Just found this site and had a few questions. If anyone can help me out, I\'d really appreciate it.
1. I have heard that the bus system will NOT allow Backpacks. Is there any good way to get to the trail head from Lihue Airport with at reasonable price, w/o renting a car? (and reliable for a pick-up for the way home)
2. Sleeping bag not neccesary? Really?? weather says 59-62 degrees at night, that sounds chilly.
Thanks for your help. Anyone else going to be on the trail next week?
Feb 09, 2009 5:03PM
Hello, My brother and I are hiking the trail in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know of a good way to get to the trail, from airport, with our backpacks? Thanks,, Frank
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 10, 2009 5:29AM
Hi Nick - Camp Naue is about 2 miles from the trailhead and you can usually catch a ride. FYI Camp Naue is not always open for walk-in campers. Summer months get busy with groups reserving the entire camp. W
Feb 10, 2009 4:45PM
Help! We leave tomorrow!
I need to know if I should take a inflatable mattress on the Kalalau Trail even if we sleep on the beach.
Feb 12, 2009 10:38PM
Do you know any possibility to store luggage/valuables while on the trail?
Do you know a good spot to leave a rental car while hiking to Kalalau (I suppose Ke`e beach is NOT a good option...)
Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 13, 2009 4:21AM
Hi Steve - even on the beach a comfortable Therma-Rest is key. Raw sand is not very comfortable to sleep on. W
Sabrina Motta
Feb 13, 2009 5:53AM
My friend and I want to hike the trail in 3 days (April 12th- 14th)n- where would you recommend we camp during that period. I was thinking about hiking in to Kalalau beach the 1st day, staying there 2 nights and hiking back out the last day - is there a better way to do it?
Feb 13, 2009 6:57AM
Hey there, me and two friends are planning to go to kauai from April to August, and my mother seems to think that we will be rained on for the entire duration that we'll be there.
I'm asking if there is indeed a wet season and whether or not we're going to be in it.
"Weather" or not we are going so... what kind of rainfall can we expect? Half and half? 1/4? Do tell!
Thanks
Feb 15, 2009 1:13AM
What a wonderful site -- do you know if satellite phones (such as Iridium) work along the trail? Would you recommend one for safety or is making outside contact in case of injury 8 miles in not very problematic?
Do you have any suggestions on how we can determine the safety of swimming in the Ocean, near shore, at Kalalau when we are there in early May? Or is this something we just shouldn't even attempt. Is there much chance to catch fish this time of year?
Feb 21, 2009 12:08AM
I\'ve got an MSR Reactor and I\'m wondering about a good place to purchase the IsoPro fuel for it. Thanks!!!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 21, 2009 5:44PM
Mike - check Kayak Kauai or Peddle and Paddle in Hanalei. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 21, 2009 5:49PM
Hi Matt - I know cell phones do not work on Na Pali, but perhaps sat-phones do. If you do get injured you can usually signal a helicopter, boat or communicate with other hikers on the trail. For swimming, if you cannot read the ocean and recognize currents or rising surf do not even attempt to swim. And finally, yes you can catch fish. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 21, 2009 5:57PM
Hi Kyle - your mother must be crazy and I don't know where she got that info. Even in rainy times it does not rain all the time. April-August is generally drier and rain showers bring rainbows. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 21, 2009 5:59PM
Sabrina - I always recommend hiking the entire trail and camping at Kalalau for two reasons. First, the camping at Kalalau is way better than anywhere else. Second, the 11 miles is not that hard for anyone who hikes or exercises regularly. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 21, 2009 6:00PM
Hi Tina - at this time the best option is to rent a car and park it at YMCA Camp Naue for $5 / night. Your car and stuff will be safe there and the camp is only 2 miles from the trailhead. W
Feb 22, 2009 6:45PM
Aloha, Thank you for this most informative site and for the time it must take you to run it. I will be in Kauai for the last two weeks of Apr. and wish to hike the Kalalau trail. I have not yet had success in my attempts to communicate with the folks at DLNR Parks. My question....What are the penalties if you hike (and are caught) without a permit. I want to hike the 11 miles in, stay one night and hike out the following day. This is not my first choice but if I can\'t get a permit in time I also do not wish to squander my only opportunity to hike this trail. Thank you, Lash
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 22, 2009 9:36PM
Hi Lash - this is some un-official advice from someone who hears a lot of comments about how difficult it is to get information and permits from the State of Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources (DLNR). The DLRN is an agency paid by tax dollars and therefore supposed to work for YOU (not the other way around). If you have sincerely tried to contact the DLNR via the channels they suggest, AND still cannot get a permit, then just go. I don't know the actual amount of the fine, but it is certainly worth the experience of one of the greatest parks in the world. GO. W
Feb 22, 2009 10:15PM
Ok, so I found this website really helpful for our prep to hike the Kalalau Trail in mid-february of this year. Sorry if this is super long, but I know I appreciated as much insight as possible before we left!
First of all, my husband and I stayed 3 nights out at Kalalau beach. We hiked straight through, both there and back, and didn't regret it. It seemed most people were just there a night, and those who broke up their trip regretted it. Of course, if 11 miles of strenuous hiking is out of the question, then by all means camp along the way. But if you can run 5 miles comfortably and have experience carrying a pack then just slug it out and go all the way. It took us about 6 and a half hours.
Next, some parts of the trail seriously freaked me out on the way there. With the combination of mud, high exposure and narrow, sloping trails, i have to admit I was intimidated. There were 3 places in the last 4 or 5 miles that made me cringe. That said, on the way back I didn't bat an eye (less muddy, and i knew what was coming) so I reckon a lot of this fear was mental. Still, I think it's good to know it's there.
We brought silk sleep sacks, long pants, socks, a fleece and vest and were still cold when we slept. If we'd had a light blanket i'm sure that would have made all the difference and still probably less bulky than a sleeping bag. Folks who had hammocks to hang out in during the day seemed to have it made.
It was pouring rain when we set out on the trail, it was like hiking in a waterfall. But we warm and actually the rain didn't bother us at all. I know it seems weird from the comforts of home, and I had the same reservations myself, but the rain cools you off, the clouds give a nice break from the beating sun, and you just don't notice it. We just made sure to keep our stuff really dry (lined our packs inside and out with contractor bags). If you're stuff is dry, you wont mind being wet during the day.
Take a walking stick! I hike a lot and never use one, but this thing was the best tool on my trip... especially for balance in the sticky mud.
Footwear: We both wore our very worn-in Chacos (the kind with the grippy tread). I wouldn't recommend any water shoe, but our Chacos were excellent. We even toted our running shoes just in case the Chacos didn't work out, but we never used them. We were both pleased and had no sores or blisters. Our Chacos definitely helped us be intrepid hikers through the puddles and rain. But if ankle support is a priority to you, then go with hiking boots.
Our main concern was our rental car. After some assurance from the folks at Pedal and Paddle we simply left absolutely nothing in our car and parked at the trail head for 4 days. no problems. we even had an obvious, white PT Loser (thanks Dollar rent-a-car). We heard the break-ins happened 3 times last year by this one dude who they finally caught. So, be cautious but not paralyzed by this fear.
One more thing, getting permits was easy to do in person. We just went into the office in Lihue right when we arrived and, although understaffed, the folks at DLNR were very friendly and we got our permits right away.
We absolutely loved our time on the trail and in the valley. One of the best hiking trips I think either of us has ever done (and my husbands a professional mountaineer). So, just go have and have a fantastic, memorable, peaceful and safe journey!
Feb 23, 2009 12:58AM
Lash,
When I wanted to get REAL information, I contacted Pearl at the DLNR Office in Lihue, either by e-mail
pearl.t.ajimine@hawaii.gov
or by calling her direct at (808) 274-3444.
or send me an email and I\'ll send you the form and you can mail it in.
Others have also reported good results from Pearl. Good luck. You have plenty of time to \'Githerdone\" before April.
Aloha
Curt
Feb 23, 2009 2:33PM
Hi,
I am planning to stay for 1 ou 2 nights at Kalalau Beach. Is it safe to leave the tent (with a locker) and all the stuff inside (not camera, etc...), and walk around during the day?
Thanks
Flavio.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 23, 2009 5:59PM
Thanks for the follow up Lindsay.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 23, 2009 6:00PM
Hi Flavio - we have not heard of tents being tampered-with during the day. W
Feb 24, 2009 12:05AM
Hey there, I was just wondering what kind of fishing I should do at the north west face of the island..? Should I bring a fishing rod and try to find some form of insect to use as bait or, is it more a spear fishing thing?
Feb 24, 2009 11:25PM
For Kyle.
Regarding fishing. If it were me I'd bring a real nice big surf rod, a sand spike, and some good heavy weights, because this time of year you can expect the surf zone to be super wide compared to summer. I have no idea whether lures, live bait, dead bait, chicken wings or raw beef would work best, but if you stick with something that will hang onto your hook until it gets out there you should be ok. I can't imagine any one snorkels at Kalalau in the winter months. Would you agree W?
ALoha,
Curt
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 25, 2009 1:33AM
Kyle - Kalalau is not good snorkeling in summer OR winter. It's all sand bottom and no reef / fish. Great swimming but not good snorkeling. For fishing I would just bring a light tackle spinning rig with some spoons and a few jigs. There are fish in the inside channel, even in big surf. No fish (except a shark) will bite chicken wings or beef. If you want to bait-fish use squid cause it stays on your hook. W
Feb 25, 2009 1:38AM
Aloha,
my girl friend and I are come to Kauai for a month at the end of March. We are going to camp the whole time and both want to hike the Kalalau from the 2nd of April to the 9th. I think this should be sufficient time to get to the valley and have a good three night stay.
Should we apply for permits before we leave or are they easy to attain upon arrival? same for camping?
thanks much
cheers
Ryan
Feb 25, 2009 3:10AM
I'm hiking the trail in a couple of weeks. I'd like info from others about lining your pack (inside and out) with bags to keep items dry from rain. Right now, I plan on covering my pack on the outside if it rains, but I'd like info from others with experience on hiking in the rain. thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 25, 2009 4:40AM
Hi Julie - over 20 years I have only used ziplocks for food / other critically dry gear and my good pack + rain fly for the rest. Stuff seems to get more wet when you are trying to setup camp in rain. When it's pouring everything is going to feel damp. I really liked a previous poster who noted that in big rains the best thing is to strip down to everything but your footwear and bathing suit - then just hike. All the raingear is pretty hot and cumbersome here. Hiking in the rain can be a lot of fun. I just did it today. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 25, 2009 4:42AM
Hey Ry - if you can get permits before you come you will not have to go to the State office in Lihue during their business hours. You'll have a great time at Kalalau. Pack light and stay as long as you can. W
Feb 25, 2009 12:01PM
Hey W, I was kidding about the chicken wings. Ive been spending too much time here at home watching sports and munching such things I guess. :)
Aloha,
Curt
Feb 26, 2009 9:17AM
With the pigs and goats running around. Am I needing to iodine my water or just use msr type filter?purifier? Thanks to all and have fun.
Feb 26, 2009 2:09PM
Great site and information. Thanks! I'll be coming back for a sixth time to beautiful Kauai in December and hope to hike the Kalalau solo. I was wondering if there was any way to get from the Kalalau valley over to Kokee Park and into Waimea Canyon, perhaps following the stream. Visually, highway 550 doesn't look that far, but I know looks can be very deceiving. Thanks again for such a terrific, up-to-date site!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 26, 2009 5:20PM
Hi Geoff - there is no trail from Kalalau to Kokee.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 26, 2009 5:21PM
Chris - there are numerous posts on this subject in this forum. W
Feb 26, 2009 10:38PM
My family and I hiked the Kalalau trail for about 4 hours back in late December and found it to be an awesome experience. I just wish I would have known about the iron oxide in the dirt before we went as I would have worn old shoes and clothing I didn't care about, as it does not wash out and will stain your clothes permanently. The trail was very muddy and I hear it is most of the time. Wear good solid shoes (not flipflops or sandals)for the trek as it is not easy, and one misstep might put you in trouble (yes there are dangerous parts to the trail) and last word of advice for those of you thinking of taking small children-Don't! unless they're stapped on to your back. Definately, one experience in Kauai not to be missed.
Meredith Chang
Feb 27, 2009 8:37AM
For some good recent photos of the Kalalau Trail and Pihea Trail out to the swamp, check out this new blog.
Feb 27, 2009 6:12PM
I will repeat what many others have already stated - what a great site for finding info. My twin brother and I will be hiking the trail next week. For this time of year, how much water would you recommend starting the trail with considering we will have water treatment pills and a filter (2L?)? About how early do you recommend safely starting the trail if you are not using hiking lights (1/2 hr before sunrise?)? Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 27, 2009 9:06PM
Thanks Andy - for water 2L per person is a good amount for the hike. I always drink a lot the night before (I mean water of course). You can also pump or treat water from streams along the way if you want to carry less. For light you could start at 6am and be at Kalalau around noon if you are a hiker. W
Feb 28, 2009 2:18AM
Just hiked the 22 miles (both ways) on 25th&26th. All I have to say is that is a gnarley hike!! I'm scared of heights and I thought the whole trail was pretty bad! Just gotta keep your head down and power through it! The wind is something fierce too, too windy to even sit on the beach! Overall happy I did it, the sunset and stargazing were unreal,but that was gnarley! 6 hours in, 5 out, and that was hoofing it! oh yeah, and the trail was dry both days thank god.
Mar 02, 2009 2:59PM
Anyone know of a place on the island to rent a small, light two person tent and some sleeping bags to go along with? My husband and I are going to be there next week and are hoping to score some camping permits and hike the trail....but we need to rent a tent and some other gear. Any recommendations would be appreciated!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 02, 2009 5:53PM
Hi Stephanie - Kayak Kauai in Hanalei and Outfitters Kauai in Poipu rent tents. Not great tents but they will work. W
Mar 04, 2009 7:01PM
Hello,
My fiance and I really want to hike the entire trail on our honeymoon. Can we leave our rental car overnight near Ke'e beach, as we will only be out one night?
Thanks!
Mar 04, 2009 10:04PM
Kyle here again, me and a friend are planning to hike all over Kauai, just assume we'll be all over the island.
We're bringing a katadyn pocket water filter so we won't have to continually buy water or carry it with us, BUT I have read about "Leptospira interrogans" and that it resides in some fresh water of kauai.
I'm just asking if you have any experience with this bacterial infection, and if it only resides in certain parts of the island-one site stated that it was only found on the north face, but what does "the north face" entail?
Also, do you think it would be wise to pre-buy the antibiotics to treat Leptospirosis?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 05, 2009 2:08AM
Hi Kyle - I personally have not had Lepto but my friend got it and was miserable. We were both in our 20's and very fit. He really suffered. So the bottom line is you don't want to get Lepto. It can occur in any location where dead animals or feces make it into your water source. Antibiotics are used in the treatment but the best thing to do is avoid getting Lepto. W
Mar 05, 2009 11:32PM
It's ironic. There was another person with the name Kyle asking similar questions regarding the Kalalau Trail, hiking, water filtration, etc. because he was planning on "camping for six months." He was told by a moderator and a guest not to do this, yet here is another person named Kyle, asking the same questions, going for the same amount of time, and he's getting hints and support.
"Kyle here again, me and a friend are planning to hike all over Kauai, just assume we'll be all over the island."
I'd assume, but the correlation is too high. I'd also assume what you are doing is illegal and you have a general lack of respect for all that is beautiful - but environmentally and culturally.
Kauai Explorer - PLEASE don't encourage this any longer!!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 06, 2009 5:21PM
Hi Brett (and the Kyles) - I answered Kyle's questions about fishing and water but still do not advocate any illegal camping. Kyle will probably find out that the reality of camping "all over the island" is not the friendly, paradise scenario he imagines. There are all kinds of factors that just make camping "in the bush" un-desirable, including bugs, rain, lack of water, no sanitary place to take a dump etc. People will get upset when they find out you are camping illegally. W
Mar 06, 2009 5:57PM
Aloha,
For general information: I contacted the Center for Disease Control and they informed me that at present there is no scientific data that concludes that filtering (with present portable technology) will remove the lepto pathogens.
Mar 07, 2009 9:51AM
I want to hike the non-permit portion of the trail this week. I will only be in Kauai for one day and want to hike to Hanakapi'ai Falls. How long will a round trip hike (average) take?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 08, 2009 3:23AM
Hi Mark - the hike is 8 miles total to Hanakapiai falls. It can be done in 2 hours but you'll probably want to make a day of it. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 08, 2009 3:36AM
Hi Marilyn - you guys will have fun but I'm not going to guarantee the security of your rental car. You can also park it at YMCA Camp Naue for $5 a night. W
Mar 09, 2009 3:00AM
Hello again from snowy Idaho! This website is such a great resource, thank you!
A few questions/comments:
I emailed Pearl from a tip in an earlier post and this was a successful way to get in touch for permits.
We are planning to camp for half the vacation and stay at a hotel/condo/hostel for the remainder, any suggestions for budget stays?
Would it be a realistic idea to plan on camping at Hanamaulu our first night on the island (arriving in early evening), can you walk there from the airport? A somewhat out-dated guide book I'm reading reports it might be a tough crowd, maybe not something we want to deal with our first night?
We are planning on bringing carryons that meet the airline requirements, a small backpack and \"purse\" each. Do you think these would be appropriate on the bus?
Has anyone heard of Aqua Mira? I use it all the time in the Rockies, just wondering if it would be effective on Kauai for water purification.
All for now, I\'m sure I will think of more. Trying to be laid back about everything since it is Hawaii!!!! But with all the permits starts to get confusing. Thanks again!
Mar 10, 2009 12:23AM
For Mark, I think that 8 miles to the falls is more likely to take you about 3-4 hours. Its still a pretty hard hike. Like W said, make a full day of it.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 10, 2009 12:57AM
Hi Jess - I love coming to snowy Idaho as much as you love coming here. First, I would not personally camp at Hanamaulu. It's just a terrible place to start your vacation. Nothing is really cheap here but you might be able to get a place at the Lihue Inn the first night, then you should head North or to Kokee as soon as you can. A lot of people try to do it without a car, but a small rental is fairly affordable and a good way to stay mobile and store your stuff. If you park your car in public places with lots of people (eyes) then the chances of a break-in are very low. This way you can go to Camp Naue, Sloggett or some other better places. I use a Katadyn with good success. I know the permits are confusing but you'll have a good time. W
Mar 13, 2009 1:22AM
Hi there! Me and a few Friends are planning to spend about 2 week in Kauai hiking on any trails we can find really (and maybe checking out some not so treaded paths), and my biggest worry is footwear! Mostly because we've got some camping permits and will be out in the bush area for about 3 or 4 days at a time.
I'm worried that if I bring a very sturdy water proof hiking boot that they will invariably get wet and take forever to dry, or perhaps lead to swamp foot.
On the other hand tho, I'm worried that if I bring a very breathable hiking shoe that dries very fast, that the possibility of spraining my ankle and thusly severely impacting my trip is heightened.
I've talked to the resident outdoor store people in my town, and they can't make up their minds either.
So, I'm pleading with you, since you have first hand experience with the trails and jungles of Kauai, which would be better?
Is it a dangerous place for ankle injury due to slipperiness or anything like that? Off the trails included. Or Should I be more worried about the possibility of massive rain?
Please take into consideration the fact that we want to, or plan to atleast, spend a little time off the trails.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 13, 2009 5:21PM
Hi Marky - first you should know that hiking off the trail can get you into a few kinds of trouble. The very fact that you are asking about footwear suggests a lack of experience. That said, I have hiked all over Kauai with trail runner type shoes. The one time I wore heavy boots I regretted it. Lightness and quick-dry is more important than support. W
Mar 15, 2009 5:02PM
Planning on a hike in October-would you say this trail is safe to hike alone for a woman? And if not, do you know of any sites for finding a hiking partner?
Thanks-
Mar 15, 2009 8:41PM
Haha, well thanks for the advice W, I eventually bought trail-runner shoes as a place holder that fit me really well, if I didn't hear other wise (still haven't worn them outside, can return them) So I guess I'll just keep them.
Thanks for the info, really put my mind at ease.
Mar 15, 2009 11:36PM
Hello,
I am visiting Hawaii. Maui with friends May 1-8. I'll be by myself on Kauai May 8-12 followed by the Big Island May 12-16. I would like to hike the entire Kalalau Trail and camp for one or two nights. Is there a guide service available that would also take care of permits, camping gear etc.?
I would also like to sail for a day and see the cliffs from the water.
What would you suggest?
Also, do you know of a horseback ride/overnight camping?
Thank you
Mar 17, 2009 7:13AM
Haven't seen a trail report in a little while. I understand that you have been receiving a good bit of winter rain (at least on the East side of the island).
My wife, my brother and two of my teenagers have been training for a couple of months to get our legs in shape for the trek.
We have permits and have sifted through all of the valuable information on this site (thanks).
We are a little nervouse about the rain though. Does anyone know how the trail may have been impacted?
BTW we are planning hiking into Kalalau Valley this weekend.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 17, 2009 4:41PM
Hi Michael - I've been hiking 3x to Hanakapiai this last week and yes, the trail is wet, but that doesn't change the fact that you guys will have an incredible experience on Na Pali. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 17, 2009 8:20PM
Hi Sarah - we are not coordinating, reviewing or booking activities at
this time. Seems like people are looking for authentic, non biased reviews on things to do. We also want to support / promote credible, quality activity providers and guides. Would you utilize this service if we included it on Kauai Explorer? We've reviewed and posted a bunch of info here but it takes considerable time.
Thanks W
Mar 17, 2009 9:24PM
My fiance and I are planning a trip to Kauai in October, and want to spend a night or two camping and enjoying Kalalau. This seems like a stupid question based on the wonderful experiences everyone on this website has had - but here goes. I grew up on Oahu and my family never went on any hikes in the rainforests. We had heard a lot of stories about trails, beaches, etc. that were unofficially \"off limits\" to tourists, non-locals, etc. Often marked with signs \"Kapu\" (forbidden) to signify not so wholesome activities, stay away. People sometimes would go on anyways, and well I guess experiences were not always pleasant.
Sounds like this type of thing does not happen if you stay on the trail at Kalalau, but I wanted to see if anyone has heard of or experienced any problems ever. Hope this doesn\'t sound negative, I love Hawaii and the ALoha spirit. Just want to be prepared.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 18, 2009 12:08AM
Hi Jennifer - not a negative question at all. There are no Kapu signs on the Kalalau trail. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 18, 2009 12:10AM
Hi La - I have seen a number of women hiking alone but cannot certify that it is totally safe (then again neither are the back alleys of suburbia). Sorry but don't know of any hiking partner connection websites. W
Mar 18, 2009 11:11PM
Hello all & Explorer staff! I completed the Kalalau trail with a friend Mar. 10-12, in all the way one day, stayed a day, out all the way the next day. I highly recommend going all in and out in one day, much better then halfsies. It was magnificent, extremely muddy, wet & rainy, and beautiful all at the same time. We chose to wear hiking boots (for better ankle and bottom of foot support) vs trail running shoes. We changed out into closed toe sandals for river crossings. This worked well, but it took a bit of time to change. River crossings: my biggest fear! The rivers were high and at one point, Kalalau was running red and high. Other hikers helped us across and by planting one foot at a time the current was o.k. I told my friend, "it never rains after mile 6". WRONG! It rained on us all the way through mile 10 going in. Mile 6.5-8 was very slippery and dangerous. It freaked my friend out, but heights don't bother me, I talked her through that section. I was behind her. We saw all kinds of footwear: from hiking boots to trail running shoes to barefeet. One other thing I was totally amazed at: the sand at Kalalau beach was so soft it was like a carpet! We had nothing to lay on but ourselves and the sand molded to our bodies. It was so incredible! Thanks to all the people who've posted for advice and to the Expolorer website for all the valuable information!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 18, 2009 11:34PM
Glad you had fun Julie. FYI the area of the coastline is only drier during the typical Trade wind weather (where wind blows from the East). Easterly winds bring weather primarily to the windward side and the leeward (opposite the wind direction) is much drier. It's a classic rain-shadow effect. Recently - as is typical in winter months - the winds come from all directions, making Kalalau and other generally dry areas potentially wet. W
Mar 21, 2009 2:55PM
My husband and I hiked the trail March 16-18 and it was amazing. We had dry weather except for 5 minutes of rain at Kalalau, and were surprised to see how wet and slippery it was on the way out once we reached mile 6. The information contained in the forum was wonderfully helpful. We wore running shoes, carried light packs, used iodine to treat water (which I always do now because I find filters to be too bulky), and slept in long underwear with silk sleeping bag liners. We were able to pick up a few necessities in Hanelei, but brought most of our food/gear from home.
The one comment I did want to make is we hiked slower than we thought we would. We live in the NW and are pretty used to covering about 2-2.5 miles per hour hiking. The Kalalau trail took us 7.5 hours on the way in, and 8 hours on the way out. We stopped for about 20 minutes for lunch each time. Overall we found that it was not a problem at all to do the whole trail in a day with slow, steady progress. Once we saw the swampy camping available at mile 6, we were more motivated than ever to keep moving. Also, we had a limited time schedule so we only spent one full day at the beach. 2-3 days would have been great for relaxation and exploring the valley. If you can take the time, do.
Thanks again for all the great info on this site and good luck for everyone hiking the trail in the future!
Mar 21, 2009 10:11PM
My friend and I got a permit to hike the trail and camp at Kalalau for 2 nights from April 12th-14th. I've heard there's been a lot of rain and was wondering what reports on the trail conditions have been. I'm a strong hiker, as is my partner, but I am NOT a huge fan of heights and am concerned about the cliffy section - I've heard such mixed reports about the trail, perhaps you can tell me what it's like right now? Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 22, 2009 4:20AM
Hi Sabrina - no doubt that right now the trail is wet and slippery, esp. on the first 6 miles. Lots of people are still hiking and dealing with the narrows around mile 7-8. Chances are it will get drier as we head into April, but there are no guarantees. W
Mar 23, 2009 6:05AM
recently completed the Kalalau trail it was awesome,challenging but not as tough as I thought it was going to be with a heavy pack,I hope someone monitors whoever maintains the trail to keep it as natural as possible.The challenge is what makes it worthwhile,if you can't do it stay home.No handrails,no bridges just let it be.
Mar 24, 2009 10:30PM
Jess from Idaho again, can't wait for the trip!
We plan on camping for half of our stay and I cannot decide what to bring for sleeping. My coolest sleeping bag is rated 15F, which seems like major overkill. Any ideas for a cheap alternative (I can't justify buying a warm weather sleeping bag just for this trip)? Do you think a liner, warm clothes and a pad would be sufficient?
Also, still going to try and use public transpo as much as possible, but getting mixed messages about it. Any suggestions for car rentals if it doesn't work out?
Thanks again!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 24, 2009 11:25PM
Hi Jess - your 15 degree bag would be miserable. A liner would work, so would sweats, socks and a hoodie. The car rentals all compete on price so just go online and look for the best deal. W
Mar 25, 2009 4:38AM
Hey Jess, Cheap island rentals was a great way to cut costs on renting a car. 160 bucks for a week! Check them out on craigslist. We had a 2000 chev cavalier 4door and suited us fine. Anahola/anini was beautiful for camping. Salt pond smelled funny. Poipu was amazing for snorkeling. The Ymca up by haena is cheap for a bed..15 dollar bunks.right on the coast!Awesome area!. Hanalie is Gorgeous and has good food. If your doing kalalua stay 3 nights if you can.Its worth it to relax back there.
Hope this helps I just got back and loved it there,even with the rain. Kauai Palms hotel in Lihue was 65 bucks..cheap and nice and friendly. My only regret was not doing a boat tour of the Na pali..oh well Ill be back!
Mar 26, 2009 10:45PM
W---Glad I asked about the sleeping bag, will be nice to not have to haul it around. Thanks!!!!
Chris-----Thanks as well for the good info., sounds like you had a great trip. We were thinking about a boat tour so that is nice to know. Did you (or anyone else out there in cyber-land) hear anything about staying at Kauai Sands? It gets mixed reviews but I\'ve found some really cheap prices online...Anyway, can\'t wait!
Mar 27, 2009 10:48PM
Aloha~
My husband and I are in the very early stages of planning our first Kalalau Hike in July...no questions at this moment, but a big Mahalo for this fabulous, informative website! There is a ton of info here...I don\'t know if we will even need to post a question.
With much Aloha & Mahalo...
Britt
Mar 27, 2009 11:40PM
Jess~
Regaring your inquiry into Kauai Sands...go to wizardpub.com...the author of this site gives very unbiased & accurate reviews about places to stay in Hawaii. I've relied on his site each time I've traveled around the islands...his reviews have always been spot-on.
Mar 30, 2009 8:30PM
Just back from Kauai and the Kalalau trail. It is an awesome trail, one not to be taken lightly. I have had the oppurtunity hike the Grand Canyon and that was much easier than this. weather was very cooperative for me, no rain, the sun however seemed to zap a lot of energy from me. Bring enough water, I had an energy drink in one of my bottles and could have used one or two more. used iodine tabs to purify water seem to do the trick, also used just a filter and didn't have a problem. lots of friendly people on the trail. If you are planning on more than 2 days, take the time to see Hanakapi?ai Falls. thinking back I would spend s night at either 6 or 8 mile, continue to the beach the next day, as I was shot once I got there. Next day up the Kalalau Valley, to big pool, beautiful. Plenty to see and experience. At my age I'm hopeing to do another trip, this one for 7 days, that would allow enough time to really explore the area. Good luck, be prepared go as light as possible
Mar 31, 2009 2:33AM
Two Questions:
1. Is there a guided tour for the 11 mile hike?
2. What is the most cost effective way to get to Kauai from Oahu?
We have very little camping experience, lots of hiking experience and would LOVE to do this hike!! We fly into Honolulu on April 14th and would love to do this hike before we enjoy Waikiki.
Thanks
Mar 31, 2009 3:32PM
I want to hike the Kalalau trail and not camp, I heard you can take a boat out, is this true?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 31, 2009 11:13PM
Hi Heather - there is no guided tour of the Kalalau trail. The hike is 11 miles EACH WAY so unless you are in superb, marathon shape you'll have to do part of the trail or camp. Hiking to Hanakapiai falls is an incredible, tough 8-mile round trip. For airline tix you just have to check online with Hawaiian, Go! or Mokulele airlines. Waikiki and Na Pali - you are going for ultimate contrast! W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 31, 2009 11:20PM
Hi Faith - there are no official, legal boat shuttle services to and from Kalalau. W
Apr 06, 2009 10:20PM
Hey so a group of friends and i are pplanning on the kalalau hike in early july camping for like 4 days or so, curious about the conditions then. Also wondering if we really need permits and what happens if we dont have them. also if we should just apply for permits before hand or if we can just get them right before we start the hike.
cheers
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 07, 2009 9:06PM
Hi Andrew - you'll probably have dry and hot conditions at Kalalau in July, with trade wind showers in the Haena - Hanakapiai area. You should try your best to obtain permits now, in advance. W
Apr 08, 2009 3:14AM
I am plannin on doing the hike with my friends and camping out somewhere. We do not want to do the full 11 miles and than hike back the other 11 miles to our car. What would you suggest in doing. I would like to keep the trip around an 11 mile hike or so total. Were should we camp. Suggestions would be awsome. I would like to see the nice spots of the trail
Apr 08, 2009 3:33AM
These boards are fantastic preparation for a Kauai visit, as my family learned during our recent visit. We stayed in Hanalei for the last week in March and we hiked a small portion of the trail. Our 5 kids are 9 down to 2 months, so with three walking and two in backpacks, we chose to keep search and rescue at home by keeping it simple.
Yes, the hike starts right off with steep and tricky, but very quickly is simply beautful. Within minutes the view is fantastic and pretty much stays that way. My 62 year old father fell and injured a hand and some ribs but even he thought it was worth it. While we didn't make it to the end or even to the falls, this is a fantastic trail and highly recommended, even if only a portion is hiked!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 08, 2009 4:46AM
Hi Josh - the only other legal camping area along the Kalalau trail is at Hanakoa. Hanakoa is 6 miles from the Ke?e trailhead. The campground is in the valley and there is no beach. Hanakoa also catches a lot of the trade wind rain; in fact it is a turning point from the rainy windward to the much drier leeward side. After you climb out of Hanakoa towards Kalalau you'll notice the change in vegetation. In summary, I have never camped nor will ever recommend camping at Hanakoa unless you want to test a tent or bug repellent. There ARE dry days there but these are the exception. People camp in other areas of the trail but that is not cool because there are no facilities. Hope this helps. Do the whole thing. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 08, 2009 4:48AM
Man Loren - your response means so much. You have the true explorer attitude (so does Dad). Mahalo W
Apr 08, 2009 5:02AM
What happens when one is camping with out a permit??
Apr 08, 2009 5:55PM
I was planning on doing the whole hike in one day to Kalalau and camp over night at kalalau, I was than planning on getting up early morning and hike back to get my vehicle at the start of the trail. If I have a very light back pack on with just traveling with water and a light snack how long would it take me to jog/walk the 11 miles back. I am a tri-athlete and have participated in many marathons. I was hoping to do it under 4 hours is that possible. Also, Can I drive on the road with my vehicle to the start of the trail to kalalau beach were we would be camping to pick up my friends and how far of a drive is that. Thank you much. I appreciate all the help
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2009 12:45AM
Hi Josh - the trail is definitely doable in 4 hours if you are in solid shape. It's been done in just over 2 hours. If it is wet that will affect your time. Don't' fully understand your driving question but there is no road to Kalalau. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2009 12:48AM
One might get a ticket from one Ranger!
Apr 09, 2009 2:34PM
Is there any road close to Kalalau Beach? Or is there a road that you can take from ha'ena state park to Kalalau beach.
Apr 09, 2009 3:06PM
Are you allowed to camp at Hanakapi AI beach?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2009 4:52PM
No Josh - Hanakapiai is closed for camping.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2009 4:52PM
No road to or near Kalalau.
Ti Conkle
Apr 09, 2009 5:13PM
My husband and I hiked this trail March 27th and found it to be absolutely delightful! We hiked from Haena Beach Park to Kalalau Beach the first day, and spent the next day exploring the Kalalau Valley and lolling on the beach. Hiking out the following day in a gentle rain, we enjoyed breathtaking and vivid colors- the red dirt, the green lava spires, the aqua-teal-blues of the ocean made for amazing photos.
We spent 10 days backpacking the entire island, taking several exploratory hikes including the Nu'alolo Trail-Nu'alolo Cliffs Trail-Awa'awapuhi Trail Loop as a warm up for the Kalalau hike.
The weather was exceptional- sunny, warm, light breeze, occasional light rain. Couldn't ask for better.
As we were backpacking/camping for a week and half, our Kalalau packs were about 45 lbs each. We are experienced hikers, and with well-balanced loads and trekking poles, we had no problem navigating the cliffs or the narrow sections of trail. Being well-conditioned is strongly advised, but that's a no-brainer.
We did find the permitting process for both State and county parks to be absolutely the most difficult challenge of the entire trip. We obtained permits for Kokee State Park and the Kalalau Trail, then had to scramble to get permits for the county parks (noteworthy: only one county office is set up to take cash or debit/credit).
All in all, it was an amazing trip- and we look forward to returning to do some extensive hiking/exploring in Waimea Canyon next time.
Apr 10, 2009 2:50AM
My husband and I hiked the trail March 31-April 4. I was worried about so many things - the cliffs, the bugs, the weather, my knee which had been acting up... but it was an amazing experience as soon as we started and I am so glad that we did the hike! Camped the 1st night at Hanakoa, 2nd and 3rd nights at Kalalau just above the beach, then the 4th night at Hanakoa. 1st day/night was rainy and very muddy, so unpleasant - after that it cleared up and we didn't experience the rain and mud again until the last two miles on the way out. I would say that hiking poles are a must... especially for shorter/less-in-shape hikers. We wore hiking boots too and were glad to have them for the ankle support and resistance to mud. Carried Tevas which were very good for the stream crossings and for walking around near the beach. Hanakoa was not our favorite campground, however, was perfectly located and I'm glad we stayed there just to rest and break up the trip. If you're not confident about completing the 11 miles in one day, I'd say it's definitely worth it! Our only regret was not having more time at Kalalau - one full day was nice but more would have been nicer. Definitely walk to the far end of the beach and check out the caves, and definitely watch and photograph the sunset!
Apr 10, 2009 6:38AM
Hi,
Was wondering how the weather was for hiking this trail in early May?
Thx!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 10, 2009 6:34PM
Hi Joe - the weather question is one of the most common. May usually has nice trade wind weather with some showers. W
Apr 11, 2009 11:28PM
Hi -
My girlfriend and I are planning to hike the trail beginning April 20. I've been checking the weather periodically and it appears that there's been alot of rain lately. I was wondering what the current trail conditions are, and if you expect them to become better/worse in the next 7-10 days.
Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 12, 2009 5:00PM
Nate - the conditions are good now. Rain is a possibility that you have to prepare for, but do not let it stop you from hiking. W
Apr 14, 2009 7:25PM
My wife and I are planning on hiking the trail this June. We are concerned about leaving our rental car while we are camping. Where is the safest place to park?
Apr 15, 2009 2:57AM
Hi -
My girlfriend and I are considering hiking the trail over Thanksgiving weekend. I've hiked it once in the past - my friend and I were dropped off at the beach by a Captain Zodiac raft early in the morning and we hiked out. I'd like to do the same thing again with my girlfriend. Is this option - via Captain Zodiac or another company - still available today and at that time of year? Thanks.
Apr 15, 2009 6:28PM
I am hiking the Kalalau Trail on May 26th for 3 days and am looking for a hiking partner/s. I plan on hiking to Hanakoa on the 26th and then to Kalalau on the 27th and out on the 28th. If anyone wants to hike and camp let me know. Thanks.
Apr 16, 2009 4:04PM
Greetings. Look forward to walking to the falls and back mid July. Not sure if bugs are a factor in the day or the amount of vegetation we will encounter, especially on the path up to the falls. Despite the heat then, are long sleeves and pants reccomended?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 16, 2009 5:30PM
Hi Krink - I would choose repellent over long pants and shirt. Personally I never have used bug repellent while hiking but lots of people do. Seems like the real attacks happen at night. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 16, 2009 5:35PM
Kirk - park at the YMCA camp in Haena for $5 / night. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 16, 2009 7:14PM
Hi Kevin - Captain Zodiac has not been in operation for some time now. In my teens I drove the gear / landing boat every summer. These days there are no legit companies offering a drop-off. If you are and experienced waterman you can Kayak to Kalalau. W
Apr 24, 2009 1:56AM
Hello there! Great website! very helpful.
I am thinking of going to Kauai for 7 days between the 2nd and 3rd week of May 2009. The only thing is that I am planning this trip myself and I know is not the best to hike alone, unless you are experienced...?
I am planning on doing 11 miles in a day and camp for as long as I can at Kalalau. (Is there a limited time to stay there?) what is the weather range day-night? I will pack some food but would I be able to find some out in Kalalau?
Thank you!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 24, 2009 5:38PM
Hi Mel - hiking alone really depends on the individual. You can legally camp at Kalalau for up to 5 nights. Bring food because you probably won't find any there. W
Apr 25, 2009 2:46AM
Absolutely invaluable site! I am concerned about transportation because we had planned to take the bus to the end (Hanalei?) and then hitchhike to the trail head but now understand the bus will not allow us to take on our backpacks!?! Just how big exactly is 10" x 17" x 30"? Is that like a school size backpack?
Apr 26, 2009 10:03AM
I know it isn\'t advisable to make a trek like this alone, especially since I wouldn\'t regard myself as an experienced hiker. I\'m thinking about starting May 6 and then camping at the end and coming back May 7, or maybe May 3,4. Couple questions, is there enough traffic on the trail that it would be ok for me to do alone? Is it worth doing solo? What can I do to further prepare should I go solo? Is there a best time of the week to do the trip as fare as more traffic on the trail?
Apr 27, 2009 4:52AM
One more question, are there hikes on Oahu that have similar challenges compared to this? I.e. Steep grades, slippery trails, and places where heights may be an issue. I would love to use my days in Oahu to see if I'm up for Kalalau. I'm mostly concerned with how I'll handle the grades and heights because I don't have a good basis of comparison to other adventures.
Thanks again for all your time,
Andy
Apr 28, 2009 1:46AM
I'm planning on hiking the Kalalau Trail May 1 - 3 alone. I will be needing transport for Lihue Airport to Trailhead and would prefer not to rent a car. Is hitchhiking a fairly reliable mode of transport on the island and is it generally safe?
Apr 28, 2009 6:58PM
Andrew if you feel you're not an experienced hiker I'd give yourself at least 2 days to complete the hike. Your best bet would be to camp at mile 6 (Hanakoa). There usually isn't any traffic to speak of, but if you don't feel comfortable doing some parts like miles 7 and 8 by yourself, just wait out at a campsite and hook up with someone.
I'd say its definately worth doing solo, it's what i'll be doing the second half of May as well. It's primal!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 29, 2009 6:44PM
Hi Dawn - that is larger than a school-sized backpack but still, the bus does not make it easy to get to the trailhead. I have seen hikers with backpacking-sized packs catch the bus with no issues. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 29, 2009 7:13PM
Hi Andrew - all of the islands have steep mountainous areas. The topography in Hawaii is very diverse. Oahu is amazing and that's why so many people hang out there. When I lived on Oahu we hiked up Tantalus, Diamond Head, Aiea, and on the N shore. Personally I prefer hiking on Kauai, Maui and the Big Island. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 29, 2009 7:18PM
Hi Andrew - Hawaii has amazingly diverse topography. Steep, mellow, wet, dry and even altitude on Maui and the Big Island. Oahu is beautiful but crowded. We used to hike Tantalus, Diamond Head, Aiea. I don't like hiking on Oahu as much as Kauai and Maui. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 29, 2009 7:23PM
Larry - hitchhiking works. You can catch the bus to Hanalei and hitch to Kee. W
Apr 30, 2009 3:36AM
This a very useful website. Thanks for all the information. I\\\'ve just got some days off and got a nice deal with air fares. My husband and me are planning to do the hike to Kalalau beach in one day and hike out next day. I have been trying to get the permit but nobody is answering the phone or the email. We\\\'ll arrive Friday May 8 after their business hours and they will be closed during the weekend. We flight back on Wednesday. Do you know what are our chances to get a permit on Monday morning? Do we still have time to hike in? Should we hike in on Saturday without permit? How often the rangers check out for permits and what is the fine? Thanks again and congrats for your website.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 30, 2009 5:27PM
Hi Ana - keep trying to get the permits or contact somebody at the office. If you have tried your best without success then it would be a shame not to experience Na Pali. The rangers do not hike - they fly in via helicopter. Since this is so expensive and obvious, the chances of you getting a citation are small. Worth it! W
May 01, 2009 4:19AM
I was in Kauai a few years ago and we hiked the first 2 miles and it was amazing! We were planning a trip to Mexico next week but we might change our plans...(due to the swine flu hassle). Anyway, we would love to hike the whole trail. We called about 5 different phone numbers to get a permit. They just gave us the run around. I know it's totally not reccommended but my question is, what is the penalty if you are caught without a permit? It's really frustrating to get the permit. Thanks for any info.
May 04, 2009 9:38PM
My girlfriend and I just hiked the Kalalau trail (April 20 thru 24). We didn't know exactly what to expect. Now that we've done it here's a few tips I thought might be useful for anyone planning a trip:
1) I strongly suggest hiking poles. We had one each. I think two might be a bit cumbersome. They are invaluable for the stream crossings and save alot of stress on your quads and knees during the steep ascents/descents. They also provide a little extra security if the trail is slippery and on the exposed sections between miles 6 and 8.
2) We just slept with a cotton bedsheet which was almost warm enough. I suggest bringing lightweight thermal bottoms/tops for sleeping in as it can get a little chilly and damp at night (especially if you're close to the beach).
3) We brought a water filter but didnt use it at all....instead we used water purification tablets. The waterfall at the far west end of the beach provides some pretty clear water. A Steri-pen would have been the way to go here as you could immediately treat the water and drink while it's still cold. I would still bring tablets as a back up though.
4) We hiked in and out in one day which, in my opinion, is the way to go if you are in shape and can do it. It took us a little over 6 hours at a moderate pace. If you can't make it all they way I would try to at least make it to Mile 8.....the camping is much nicer here than at Mile 6.
5) If you have time while you're there I recommend hiking up the river that you will cross at Mile 10. There are countless fresh, clear swimming holes and small waterfalls along the river that are absolutely amazing to swim in. Just follow the trails that run along both sides of the river. We spent a whole day just exploring and swimming along the river. Bring some snacks and water and just go......
6) If you have time on the way in or on the way out, take the time to hike up the stream to Hanakoa Falls at mile 6. It's about 20 min one way and definitely worth it.
7) GO AS LIGHT AS POSSIBLE.....your legs/feet/back will thank you and you'll be able to go that much faster.
Hope this info is useful to anyone that's planning on hiking this incredible trail.
Brent
May 06, 2009 8:13AM
Hello, still checking out your website and can't wait to get to Hawaii. A few questions:
We'll be camping at Hanakoa and then Kalalau, and then out in a day. We'll take the first day to explore Hanakapia'i. We'll travel light (do you think 3000cu" is enough for a pack?) I'm bringing a thermarest, tent, fleece bag liner [no bag], pillow, and of course the cooking essentials.
Should I bring flippers to swim to Honopu? I am a strong swimmer, and we'll be there 7/27 9calm waters?). However, I'll also be there later, on 8/5 when I do the Na Pali row with a group. My wife is agile, but I can't vouchsafe how much pull she can put out (she's 5'1"). I'll be training with her a bit in the pool (mostly for breathing control during snorkeling [not at Kalalau]) but I don't know how much swimming improvement I can expect. I dunno, I might bring my own fins but leave hers behind. I would hate for her to miss out though.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 06, 2009 8:35PM
Hi Emily - please see previous posts on this subject. Too bad the permitting office is making it hard. Perhaps you should file a complaint with the State or Kauai Visitors Bureau. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 06, 2009 8:51PM
Hi Brent - here are some answers. I would bring whatever pack you normally use for backpacking. For swimming to Honopu, we are hesitant to offer advice because there are so many variables. It can be quite easy and calm, then change drastically. It's not enough to be a strong swimmer, you need to know about Hawaiian Ocean conditions and surf. Bring your fins and perhaps you can find somebody with experience at Kalalau. When you kayak in August you'll probably be able to get to Honopu, but remember that landing on the beach is illegal. W
May 07, 2009 6:23PM
I will be hiking the Kalalau Trail in June, and camping at the end on the beach. I think I need a hiking pass and a camping permit, but can't get a hold of anyone at the DLNR. Does anyone know if I can pay and get my permits by mail, before I arrive in Kauai and/or how much they are?
May 07, 2009 11:44PM
Hello,
Enjoying reading all the comments here.
I have been to Kauai twice and hiked only the first two miles of trail each time. Will be there May 29 - June 9 and would love to do the whole trail but my travel partner can\'t do it. I\'m in great shape and not worried about the hike more worried about being an inexperienced camper. Any advice? If anyone is looking for a hiking partner I would definintely be interested.
Thanks,
Darryl
May 11, 2009 2:29PM
Just wanted to share this with anyone who is interested. It is a map of the trail in google maps topo view. You can also click on the Show elevation check box and see the elevation profile.
http://www.mapmyhike.com/hike/united-states/hi/hanalai/759123902433492200
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 12, 2009 4:58PM
Hi Jeff - I would suggest you keep trying to get permits prior to arriving. Too bad the DLNR is making it difficult. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 12, 2009 5:01PM
Hi Darryl - camping here is pretty simple. Travel light. W
May 14, 2009 2:41AM
Darryl, I did this trail 2x, the first time only to mile 6-packed to much. Second time to the end in very muddy conditions. Camping was a concern for me before the trip, but really, it was simple, just think through your food requirements. I read alot online (this site is the best) and in books and it helped. You'll have a blast, I wish I could go back today!
May 14, 2009 8:48PM
Hello,
I am moving to hawaii the end of this month and have been feeling a calling to Kauai - specifically, the Kalalau Valley. I am wanting to live in the valley for at least a year for spiritual/personal reasons. I'll be eating on a raw foods diet - meaning fresh fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, greens - and i won't be hiking in and out for food. So aside from what i can grow myself for food, what is there in the way of vegetables, fruits, greens that grow naturally/wild in the valley that i can forage. (I know about the permit laws and the raids - I feel in my heart tho that this is where I need to be) Any help would be very appreciated.
Mahalo,
Keith
May 15, 2009 5:17AM
This is a great site, very useful information on here.
I am going to Kauai next weekend (Memorial Day Weekend). I do not want to hike the entire thing since Its only my girlfriend and I and she just hiked once in her lifetime.
I would like to do a day hike. Hanakapiai Falls at the 2 mile marker may be a bit short for me. I was thinking about hiking to the 6 mile marker. Is there anything passed the 2 mile marker such as any streams, pools, or waterfalls or just scenery?
I could not find a good map of the trail indicating any attractions along the Kalalau Trail. Any good link for a detailed map?
Thanks!
May 15, 2009 5:43AM
My wife and I ? both in our early 50?s ? hiked the trail 20-22 Apr. After hiking many, many trails in Hawaii over the past 3 years, this was the culminating event and it didn?t disappoint. In fact, we still can?t believe it and check out our nearly 4 GB of photos quite frequently!
It was a superb trip, despite some of the challenges described below, and we would do it again. Like Nate above, who hiked about the same time we did, we?d like to offer some thoughts in the hopes others find it useful.
1. We hiked the full 11 miles to the beach the first day. It was pouring rain most of the late morning and mid afternoon, which made stream crossings and the 6.5-8 mile section somewhat challenging. We stopped at the shelter at mile 6 with many others waiting for some letup, but after about an hour, we decided to press on. We donned our river shoes to get past the swollen stream, changed shoes, then slogged thru loads of mud approaching the ?scary part?. As it turns out, even with wind blowing, some residual rain, and slipping and sliding down the switchback approach to the narrow sections everyone talks about, we didn?t find the scary part that scary. In fact, the rock ledge/path was a welcome change to the sliding. We found our poles invaluable as was all our rain gear. All told, we left the trail head at 0700 and arrived at the beach at 1730, despite these delays and very slow going.
2. We camped at the furthest site closest to the waterfall at the beach. It was idyllic. We used our filter and tablets and replenished our Camelback bladders, fired up our mini stove to heat up our Mountain House dinner, and were treated to rainbows over the Pali. Unbelievable! Please don?t overlook the night activity either, which was complete light-free star gazing. Also unbelievable!
3. For the second day, we had originally planned to just lounge around the beach as most folks do, so we spent the morning checking out the beach, caves, etc. and cleaning up muddy equipment from the day before. However, since the weather was absolutely beautiful and the sun was hitting the Pali perfectly, we decided to break camp at about 1300. We wanted to do at least some of the hike in perfect weather and we weren?t sure about the weather for our originally planned hikeout the following day. We figured we?d make it to mile 8 and camp. After hanging around on Red Hill for a while admiring the stunning view back to the Pali and the beach, we set out again and made it to mile 8 pretty quickly. Since the weather was still so great, we decided to press on and overnighted at mile 6. There was no one on the south side of the stream, so we had the whole place to ourselves. I didn?t find the bugs to be that much of a problem, although we did spray.
4. As it turned out, the third day was also perfect weather. So for our final six miles, we just took it easy, spent lots of time taking pictures, lounged around at Space Rock for about 45 mins for instance just soaking it all in, etc. We met our ground support team at about 1500 and took showers at Ke?e beach park.
In retrospect, we found that by breaking up the return trip, even though that?s not what most do, we actually enjoyed it more as we were able to spend more time looking around, stopping when we wanted, and didn?t feel any pressure whatsoever to crank out 11 miles to finish. Of course the perfect weather helped.
Also, I had thought we over-packed with equipment, but given the varied conditions, we used just about everything we took: poles, river shoes, rain parkas, covers for the packs, a little extra clothing since everything was soaked, and first aid items. By my calculation, we probably took one extra day of food too much (bars and trail mix), but that was the only thing extra. We took a light weight sleeping bag and pad X 2, a light tent, Snow Peak stove, one can isobutane (4 oz can, which was perfect for 7 boils of 25 oz of water), Katadyn water pump/filter, tablets, bug spray, rope, 3 bladders (7 liters), and titanium cooking pot/utensils. The only extravagance was two nights of hot chocolate. Total starting weight for each pack (with all bladders full of water) was 28 pounds. I know that?s a bit more water to carry than is recommended, but we?re glad we had it since we used it all on the way in and frankly didn?t feel like stopping much to pump in the torrential rain. We had a better rhythm on the way out so we used the filter/tablets more and carried an avg of 5 liters between us thus reducing weight.
As for the trail, it?s written quite frequently above that the elevations (gross generalizations here) are 400? up, then 400? down to the first beach, then 800? up to Space Rock, then to mile 6 it?s up and down within a narrow 200 or so foot range, but from 6.5 to 8, it?s actually a fairly steep DOWN, then up to Red Hill, then down to the beach. What?s not written much about is that conversely, on the return trip, just remember that the first traverse UP to Red Hill is fairly steep, then from 8 to 6.5 is also a fairly steep UP immediately after the reported scary parts. Just keep that in mind when you?re pacing your trek in and out.
We had a great time, would do it again, and like many of the posts before us, would add time to our stay to enable more exploring. Thanks to this blog since it?s absolutely critical to read and get all the hints from others to help shape what you bring and how to treat the trail. At the end of it all, please take time to congratulate yourselves for an outstanding achievement. You?ll remember it the rest of your life.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 15, 2009 7:04AM
Hi Chmura - there are a number of great climbs and amazing views beyond Hanakapiai. Hanakoa falls is about a 13 mile round trip hike and very quiet. W
May 15, 2009 11:31PM
We hiked the trail last July (2008) and did not heed the advice of many previous hikers. Our goal was to pound out the full 11 miles in one day. It could have been easily done had one of our hikers not gotten sick and dehydrated (probably not a good move for him to eat a pain pill before the hike).We missed the real beauty of the trip; the trail. Although an emergency camp site at the old heliport pad was quite scenic as our sick hiker was ready to pass out and fall into the ocean! We made camp and tried to hydrate him but he needed medical assistance. We had to hike out the next morning and our idiot friend ended up in the hospital for 3 days. I will be back in 2009 without the idiot hiker! Any fan if hiking must have this on their wish list. It was amazing and that was just half of the trail!
May 17, 2009 9:38PM
I am going to backpack the Kalalau Trail the 3rd week in June, 2009. I am cosidering purchasing a ultra light sleep bag that's only rated for temperatures down to 35 degrees. I am assuming this is all that I will need, but would like to confirm - any thoughts on appropriate sleeping bags for the Napali Coast? Thank you,
Ian
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 17, 2009 9:46PM
Hi Ian - get the lightest, most compact sleeping bag you can find. Some people just use a bag liner. It's gonna be hot in June but a cool breeze from Kokee drops into Kalalau on many nights. W
May 18, 2009 3:29AM
Im planning on hiking/exploring the trail for a few days in mid june and was wondering if there was any kind of transportation service at all that could get me to the trailhead from the airport. i was planning on hitching, would you say it is relatively safe on kauai. also, i love my jet-boil but i do not think i can take it on the plane, do you know of any place that rents them? lastly, I am a very experienced hiker and would love to hit up some off the beaten path fun, any ideas? thanks
May 18, 2009 11:00PM
Thank you for this great website and for the answer to my sleeping bag question.
I wanted to know if you had any info. on the Mohihi-Wai-alae Trail over on the Waimea Canyon side of the Island.
I hear it's supposed to be sublime but that you need a 4WD to access the trailhead at the end of Mohihi-Camp Rd.
Have you done this trail?
Do you need a 4WD to get to it?
If you have done the trail, is it worth the effort?
Many thanks,
Ian
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 19, 2009 8:21PM
Hello again Ian - I've camped Mohihi-Wai-alae via the Kukui trail and up a brutally steep climb out of Waimea simply known as "red hill." This hike is much tougher than Kalalau in my opinion. We came back out the same way but you can also access the area from Hanapepe valley or Camp 10 road in Kokee. I would not drive to Camp 10 without 4wd, even a slight rain would make the hills impossibly slick. The area is remote and beautiful, with the only disturbance coming from helicopters. W
May 20, 2009 5:23PM
My boyfriend and I are coming to Kauai and would like to spend 2 or 3 days hiking/camping. He's an experienced backpacker but I'm not at all. We're in our mid-twenties and relatively fit. Everything I read says that the Kalalau Trail is amazing, do you think it will be the best fit or would you recommend a different trail? I'm worried that it will be too hard. We also wouldn't mind camping/staying somewhere and doing different hikes from one spot.
May 20, 2009 7:15PM
Hi, I assumed that the 11 mile Kalalau Trail ends in the Kalalau Valley and that there is ocean access in that valley. Could you tell me a little more about the valley and what's there? Thanks!
May 21, 2009 3:35AM
Trip report: A group of 10 of us, roughly 30 years old, hiked this trail in early May, 2009 with perfect weather. It took us 11.5 hours on the way in and was pretty hard on some people. Some locals had landed a boat and half of our people managed to negotiate for a ride out a couple days later. They paid $80/pp but we later heard local rate is more like $50 if you are lucky enough to find yourself in that situation. My friends were just glad not to hike it back out. We gave them some of our weight and managed to hike out in 8.5 hours, but this can be a long trail for some people. None of us had hiked much in the past, however. Fortunately, we started early both days. There was one guy who passed us twice on our way out that ran the whole 22 miles in much less time than it took us to hike it. :)
One suggestion: if you are bringing a camp stove, do not tell Hawaiian Airlines. They have some ridiculous policy where they will not allow the stove on board if it has been used. Most people weren't even asked, but when they saw our backpack, that is what triggered the question. Despite the fact that their sign clearly states it is only the fuel that is banned, they refused to budge. TSA won't care -- I asked them myself. In fact, one of our camp stoves made it carry-on both ways (without fuel).
We filtered our water with MSR Miniworks EX and Katadyn Hiker filters and then treated it with MSR Sweetwater Purifier drops. No one got sick.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 21, 2009 5:58PM
Hi Katie - Kalalau is hard to beat and if you are fit then you'll have no problem. Another option is camping in Kokee and exploring the great trails and cooler temps up there. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 21, 2009 6:00PM
Hi Stacy - at the end of Kalalau trail you come to Kalalau valley and beach. The valley is a great place to explorer and beat the daytime heat. There are a number of pools in Kalalau valley and some amazing views. W
May 21, 2009 6:47PM
Got back from Kalalau a few weeks ago. It was my second time there and as amazing as the first! @ Brent - We attempted the swim to Honopu but the ocean was too angry that day, it wouldn\'t even allow us past the breakers. The undertow was very powerful and dangerous. My brother who lives in Hawaii and knows the ocean well lost his snorkel and mask and nearly his life. So my advice is to enojoy Kalalau Beach but do not attempt the swim to Honopu unless you are very sure of your skill as a swimmer AND the ocean conditions are calm and safe.
Emma
May 22, 2009 12:13AM
Two friends and I are bound for the Kalalau Trail on monday - our permits are for the 25th to the 28th....right when the weather is forecasting rain.
I'm curious 1)how is the trail right now in terms of maintenance and stream crossings?
2)How lame will rain make our trip? Enough to change our dates?
3)How many hikers have actually fallen to their death from this trail?
We are all experienced Sierra Nevada backpackers, but this trail makes me a bit nervous. Then again, I've never read so many diverging opinions of a trail before hiking it before!
I like your site.
Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 22, 2009 1:15AM
Hi Emma - I checked the weather and it looks like the highest potential for rain will come before Monday. We could really use some rain right now. The trail is basically unmaintained and I haven't seen any rangers doing maintenance in over 20 years. A volunteer named Bill did some amazing work but he is not being supported by the DLNR. I would not change your dates and have never heard of anyone falling off the trail. Go for it. W
May 23, 2009 5:47PM
In June we are traveling to multiple islands not to mention multiple states on our vacation so we don\'t want to pack to much do to airline bag fees. We have hiked to Can you recommend what you can rent where (I.E. packs, tents, sleeping bags), and where to buy stuff, ie tablets, etc. We are hikers (we have actually hiked to Hanakapiai beach before), but are not expert campers so any packing recommendations would be appreciated. We only can afford one to stay one night.
Thanks
May 26, 2009 1:26PM
My girlfriend and I did the Kalalau Trail on Monday, April 27. We had originally planned to do it on April 24 in two days, but heeded the advice of the DLNR to wait for the flash flood warnings in effect throughout the Hawaiian Islands to be rescinded and any high waters to subside. Our decision to attempt the trail in a single day was dictated by our itinerary. Our flight to Honolulu left on April 29, and April 28 was our reserve day in case we were forced to overnight on the trail.
We began walking at just after 7 am, arrived at Kalalau Beach at about 1:15 pm, began the journey back at 1:45 pm and arrived at Ke\'e Beach at about 7 pm. We had perfect conditions throughout the day. The path was dry, the rivers calm, and it did not rain. We carried one backpack with some extra clothes, rain gear, a first aid kit, 4.5 liters of water, dried and fresh fruit and sandwiches. We took turns carrying the backpack and the digital SLR camera. I found poles very useful for some parts of the trail, even though I don\'t normally use them.
In retrospect, we could have used another liter or so of water. Instead of carrying half the day\'s water ration all the way to Kalalau, it might have been better to take along some water purification tablets so that we could fill up empty bottles on the way back.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 26, 2009 7:39PM
You can rent and get supplies in Hanalei at Kayak Kauai and/or Peddle n Paddle. Have fun. W
May 29, 2009 5:35AM
on may 12th we hiked the kalalau trail into the 8 mile mark where we spent the night as my wife was not feeling well . next day we stayed there until about 3:30 when she started recovering . bill at mile 8 is a saint and very accommodating to all that pass by . it is a shame he is not recognized by the parks dept. we are both in our 50\'s and really had no problems physically other than my wifes sickness . the psychological part of the hike is another matter , but just keep your eyes on the trail. kalalau beach is fantastic we spent 3 nights camping . hiking poles were an asset for my wife ..i like to have my hands free to grab onto things . we too found someone with a kayak that we paid to escort us out ..we left at 6 and finished after dark at haena beach ..got to see the phosphorescence from our paddles and wake . we were very lucky as far as weather and trail conditions it was dry and sunny with no wind and the ocean was calm . i swam to honopu one day ..took 37 minutes to get there but was well worth the effort . to those that have talked about transportation . we hitchhiked all over the island during our stay and never had any problems . as far as the camp stove i would agree that you should not tell anyone that you have one ...tsa made us take ours out of our checked bags and give it to security , but i stuck the burner in my carry on and made it thru . it sucks that they wont let you claim it without letting you check it , so i wouldn\'t tell them you have one . HAVE FUN AT KALALAU , WE DID !
Jun 11, 2009 4:16AM
Is there a way to set up a pre-arranged boat trip back from kalalau beach after the 11 mile hike in? what information can you offer about boating back?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 13, 2009 5:17PM
Hi Jack - as stated in previous posts there are no legit boat companies offering a shuttle service to / from Kalalau. W
Jun 14, 2009 7:40PM
This has been a really long and fascinating read.
I\'ve determined a couple things - one is that my friends and I were probably not the most brilliant people to not think about permits for this trail until one week before. I\'m going to call the office like crazy during the next week, but as we\'ve already booked the tickets for Kauai, I think we\'re definitely going to hike this trail, permit or not. It sounds beautiful.
Thanks to this, I\'m not going to take a sleeping bag - just a liner, since we\'re taking a tent for the bugs. Water filter, tablets, check - light pair of hiking boots, and the full intention of hiking out all the way there on the first day. Thanks for all the advice and I\'ll tell you if I make it out alive!
Jun 15, 2009 11:28AM
I finally got my permits to camp October 15-17! It only took 2 months and relentless calls... My wife and I are planning on getting on the trail at 6:00 a.m. however, we are concerned about parking our vehicle. Previous posts say to try and leave our vehicle at the YMCA camp at Haena but is there anyone there that early to leave it with? We don't have a lot of options as we are arriving late on the 14th and staying at some dive in Princeville. I would be ok with the hitchhiking thing but my wife surely won't have any part in that. If all else fails is there at the very least a Taxi service that may be running that I can get a ride from princeville to Ke'e? Also, I'm a strong swimmer and would certainly entertain the thought of swimming to Honopu. We've been to Kauai in late October before and the seas have been a mixed basket. What are my chances?
Jun 17, 2009 8:41PM
Our group of 22 people (14-boys; 8-adults) just completed the 22-mile trek to Kalalau last week (June 9 -14, 2009). We spent two nights at Hanakoa Valley; and three nights in Kalalau.
Most of the trail was nice and dry, except for a few small spots near the slow flowing streams. The trail area along sliding sands (about 1-mile past the Hanakoa campsite) can get a little scary, as there is a lot of loose dirt on the trail.
I would highly recommend bringing hiking poles to help balance yourself, even if your not carrying a heavy pack. There are numerous places along the trail (about 35%-40% of the trail)that someone could easily slip and fall off if your not paying attention to where your stepping.
The Kalalau Trail was very difficult and challenging, but the spectacular views along the trail were well worth it.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 17, 2009 10:42PM
Hi Chris - I would be interested to know more about your permitting challenges with the State. You might want to skip the dive in Princeville and stay at Camp Naue for $15 / night. Then you can get up early, park your car safely and start hiking into one of the most amazing places on earth. There are taxis that will take you to Kee if you decide to go that route. For swimming to Honopu, I'm going to recommend you don't do it. It takes more than just being a solid swimmer, you need the knowledge that comes only with experience in these waters. W
Jun 18, 2009 1:15AM
I followed the detailed instructions from the DLNR homepage and mailed all the required docs and copies of our I.D.\'s. I sent a check and a postage paid envelope for the permits. Granted, we live in NY, but after a month of not receiving any information I got a little impatient. I started to call both the DLNR office numbers in Honolulu and the office on Kauai. Being careful to note the time difference I called everyday Monday-Friday during the business hours (Hawaiian time), leaving several messages that went unanswered. Finally, the second week a break through. Someone in Honolulu answered the phone! That person took my info and told me someone would call me shortly with more information. Amazingly someone did actually call me back! I was told that my app was still being processed! That Friday the same lady called me back to say that she had personally approved the permits and they were being mailed out. The slow turn time I could have lived with but the irritating thing is that no one ever seems to be answering phones at either office! Hopefully they start accepting internet apps to avoid this hassle! I love Kauai and cant wait for this trip. We come 1-2 times a year but have never done the Kalalau trail. Truth be told I would have chanced the DLNR and gone without permits but I have nothing but respect for the people and traditions and thought it best to do it legit! Mahalo for the advice on the YMCA Camp. Sounds like the best way to go! I\'ll avoid swimming at Hanakapi\'ai as well ;)
Jun 19, 2009 10:18AM
Hiked this trail in October of 2008. Was by far the toughest but most beautiful hike I've done. VERY well worth the effort - but make sure you leave at least one full day to be able to stay on the beach and enjoy it. We made the mistake of hiking to the beach one day, and then hiking back to Ke'e the next day, leaving us no time to enjoy the beach at Kalalau and take in the sights.
Jun 20, 2009 4:55AM
I am due to backpack the Kalalau beginning Monday, June 22nd. Online the weather for Kauai is showing the week+ as showers showers showers! Any insight on the upcoming weather would be appreciated.
Thanks much.
Jun 20, 2009 11:11PM
I am 48 yo and hiked the Kalalua trail about 15 years ago. I am planning on doing this incredible spiritual journey once again. However, 9 years ago I had cancer and had my left lung removed. I am 5'11 and 175 lbs workout regularly and am in great shape. Do you think this is something I should tackle...I know that it willbe a challenge of a life time. Also, is there a camping gear store to rent a few things...Thank you
Jun 21, 2009 12:01AM
We (myself and my wife) are coming to Kauai to hike Napali Coast early October. We plan to pack in for 5 nights. Can you please let us know how to get there without a rental car?
We need to get there without a car as we don't want to leave a rental car at the trailhead for 5 days.
Thanks for your time,
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 21, 2009 6:24PM
Hi Ian - don't worry about the showers. We have strong Trades right now and the rain leaves as quickly as it comes. By the time you reach Hanakoa it's going to be so hot and dry you'll be wishing for some showers. The weather reports are misleading. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 21, 2009 6:28PM
Wow Ken - I admire your tenacity. Only you can judge your fitness / ability to make this hike. You certainly know it will not be easy. Rent camping gear in Hanalei at Peddle and Paddle or Kayak Hanalei. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 21, 2009 6:29PM
Hi Deshimunda - please read through the posts here. Your options are bus, hitchhike, taxi or rent and park at Camp Naue. W
Jun 22, 2009 4:28PM
Hi and thank you for an incredable site with all the info you need to plan and carry out an incredable adventure filled trip to Kauai. I am coming to Kauai on Feb. 26 for a week and really want to make this hike in and out in a day. Richard in his post above says they did it in 12 hrs. That seems a bit fast with any time to enjoy and photograph all the beauty. I have thought that it would be alot easier if I limit myself to getting to mile 8 or so [just past the scary part as everyone calls it] and back. This is the part that first intrigued me as I love heights and cliffs. I am 49 and in good shape and have started a training course to better prepare my self. Last Sept I did several partial desents into the Grand Canyon to about 2500 ft down and back out in around 7 hrs. with around 2 hrs. spent in one place for sunrise. I had no problems and felt great afterwards. My real concern is that I am alone and would like to find or hire someone to go with me and carry a pack as my back limits me to about 15 lbs. for long term walks. I realize that this is not enough to have the things I need to be safe. Any advice on the hike and or where to look for a person to go with me would be fantastik. Thanks again for a great site.
Jun 26, 2009 1:29AM
Because the YMCS has a group the night we are going to be there, they can't accommodate us for the bunk house, tent space, or parking. Any thoughts on where to park a rental car where it won't get broken into and we won't have to hitchhike too, too far? Also, what's the deal if the car does get broken into? Are we responsible for the damage?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 01, 2009 3:32PM
Hi Dawno - we've covered this topic as best we can. Your responsibilities for the car are between you and the rental car company.
Jul 01, 2009 9:03PM
Is there any way to walk from one road end to the other road end? For example, linking the Kalalua trail to others and get to the Pihea Trail maybe....thoughts?
thanks
Jul 02, 2009 6:53PM
We are getting married in Kauai in April 2010 in a small beach ceremony. We were on the island in 2006 and fell in love with every inch of it! Do you have any suggestions for where we should hold the ceremony? We would like to have it as private as possible, but know that the beaches are all public. Any help and suggestions would be truly appreciated! Thanks so much!
Jul 04, 2009 12:55AM
Is there a camping at Hanakoa? My boyfriend and I would like to do the trail. We are in good physical shape and enjoy adventure, however we haven\'t backpacked much, and have reservations about hiking 11 strenuous miles with gear :) What would you recommend?
Thanks for the great info and advice!
Jul 04, 2009 8:18AM
I want to hike this trail during July 2009 but I do not want to hike alone. Are there any hiking clubs that hike this trail during the month of July? Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks!
Jul 04, 2009 8:06PM
We just got back from 3 days on the trail - wed to friday. The weather was great and the trail was in good shape. We\'re a little worried about two guys that camped next to us - they left with snorkel gear to swim to the next beach around noon on Thursday. We hadnt seen them again when we left on Friday morning... But they could be exploring another section.
The hike took 7 hours each way(excluding stops) - I\'m a photographer and stoped a lot fo pictures. We\'re heading out on a boat tour today to get another perspective of Na\'Pali.
Our packs were probably a little heavy, including about 8 pounds of camera gear. Overall, it was an awesome hike.
Jul 08, 2009 5:15PM
First off i want to say thanks to all the moderators of this site, cause you have all given some great advice and helped me and a few friends plan our trip for Jul. 9-12th.
I saw the eairlier post about the showers for weather and how they come and go very fast and not to worry. my question on that was about the streams. are they going to be flowing pretty heavy cause of all the showers lately or will they be fine?
we are really looking forward to this weekened for the hike. been planned for about a month and it has finally come!!
Jul 09, 2009 4:46AM
So just to be clear, this trail is 11 miles each way correct? Do you have to get a permit to camp at the 11 mile point, which is what? My husband and I would love to do this trip and camp at the 11 mile, if that is what it is and head back the next day. Do you suggest bringing a tent? Thx!
Jul 11, 2009 12:53PM
Hi W.
Graet info. My wife are going this August near end of the month. We heard there will be a goat hunt at the end of the month and the trail will be closed then. Two questions. If we hike right before or after the hunt will that pose any concerns? Any news on the condition of the trail currently? We plan to hike in the 11 miles one day and then hike out the next. Thanks for all your great info.
Jimmy
Jul 12, 2009 11:51PM
My boyfriend and I live in Honolulu and hiked the trail in mid-April on our first major trip to Kauai. Did one night at the 6-mile mark, and two at the end. Best part of Kauai.
Rode the public bus ($1.50 per person per transfer) from the airport to Hanalei with one transfer at the Lihue Wal-Mart no problem with a 25-pound pack and 30-pound pack. We did measure and were just under the bag maximum measurements listed online. Took N. Shore taxi to trailhead from the Hanalei Post Office ($25). But we hitched for free all the way to our hotel in Kapaa from the trailhead on the way out no problem. We rented a car for the remainder of our visit, but were glad we didn't pay for one for the four days we were on the trail.
We did the permitting process here in Honolulu, but it didn't seem like permits were enforced frequently along the trail, as we were never asked to show them. Even being here in person, it was difficult to deal with DLNR, which seems understaffed.
My advice: Allow a full day at the beautiful end beach to relax and meet the friendly fellow campers. Take it slow along the cliffs after mile 6. And pack as light as possible: Travel-size mosquito repellent/sunscreen/Advil are a must. There are frequent fresh-water streams for filtering water and to wash clothes for reuse. Bring water sandals if possible.
Here's a YouTube link to a video of our hike. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAJDnxK9VNg
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 18, 2009 6:08PM
Hey Jimmy - you'll have to deal with the DLNR regarding the goat hunt. The trail is dry and in great condition. Have fun. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 18, 2009 6:10PM
Yes Madon - 11 miles EACH way. Permits are required to hike past Hanakapiai and for any camping activity although I have never seen any rangers on the trail. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 18, 2009 6:11PM
Hi Sean - it has to really rain to create a flash flood, much more than just passing showers.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 18, 2009 6:15PM
Yes Julie you can camp at Hanakoa.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 19, 2009 6:34PM
Hi Nick - there are many beautiful locations to tie the knot. Just realize that you may be dealing with weather and certain sensitivities. Our advice is to hire a reputable coordinator with local knowledge.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jul 19, 2009 6:35PM
Hi Steve - there are no trails that link up the North and West ends of the road.
Jul 22, 2009 4:16AM
To throw my 2 cents in - I hiked the trail last week with a group of 8 total, and it was amazing. My only regret was hiking in one day and out the next day.
Some thoughts:
1) It\'s strenuous. Don\'t underestimate the physical exertion. We had marathoners & people who hiked Kilimanjaro in our group. While it wasn\'t as tough as Kilimanjaro, the exposure to the elements & mental challenges were significant. The sun beat down the entire hike back, and despite drinking about 5-6 liters of water/gatorade on the hike, I was dehydrated for the next two days or so.
2) Time: It took us 10 hours on the way in, and just under 9 hours on the way out, only stopping for lunch & occasional snack breaks. I think we would have been hard pressed to do it in under 8 hours without breaks.
3) Gear: I found a hiking stick to be extremely useful, especially through the downhill sections. Even with it, my knees were both shredded after the hike. Others who didn\'t use hiking sticks didn\'t seem to miss it. If you have any doubts about your knees, I would also bring an ace bandage, which was crucial for my hike back. Hiking boots are pretty essential with a heavy pack - you don\'t want to twist your ankle and have to get helicoptered out -- after hiking 2 miles uphill to a helicopter site!
4) Food: Having Backcountry dinners (risotto with Chicken, thai curry chicken and rice) bought from Peddle and Paddle in Hanalei was awesome for replenishing the spirit. We were in pretty rough shape by the time we got to camp and having warm food helped revitalize us. We also brought mac n cheese, and I swear it was the best mac\'n\'cheese I have ever eaten in my life!
There were a lot more campers than we expected. At least a good 20-30 people camping there. If you want to borrow someone\'s fire, you can bring in \"supplies\" to trade them. Things like instant coffee, canned meat, toilet paper and cigarettes go a long way towards making friends. :)
5) Crawler\'s Ledge: We had a couple people with a pretty significant fear of heights on this hike, and they both managed this section okay. Fortunately, neither of them were inclined to get vertigo -- stopping on the ledge would be bad. The return trip weighed heavily on their minds though, and they weren\'t really able to enjoy the stay at camp. For others (including myself), the ledge didn\'t seem all that bad - as long as you\'re not looking over the edge and are careful with your feet & holding onto the wall, it doesn\'t feel that bad. The way there is about twice as bad as the return trip, due to the downward slope of the outbound ledge.
Hope this helps, and good luck & have fun for all those who are considering it in the near future - it was amazing and something I\'ll remember for a long time!
Jul 22, 2009 10:49PM
my wife and I are doing a 5 day backpacking trip this coming september. I can't wait. we are both so excited. we're hiking the entire 11 miles the first day, then staying three solid days on the beach, then hiking out the last day. we are currently figuring out what gear we should bring. some questions......
would anyone suggest bringing a lightweight hammock?
would anyone suggest bringing a light weight chair?
what about building fires at the campgound. to cook on. is there wood around to makea small one?
tablets or water filter, or both?
hiking shoes- i was thinking of hiking in some solaman water shoes. would anyone disagree. didn't think I need to lug some heavy hiking boots.plus then I could use the water shoes to explore the waterfalls once I got there.
anything else you TOTALLY thought was great to have there at the beach? or wish you would have brought?
thanks in advance.
Jul 23, 2009 1:00AM
I am planning on hiking the Kalalau trail, but I am not sure where to park. I am told that the parking lot is not safe to leave my car overnight, as there have been many break-ins. Where is a safe and secure place that I may park my car for the evening?
Jul 23, 2009 1:02AM
I was wondering if there was a shorter trail that connected to the Kalalau 11 mile trail that I could take out of the park? I want to hike the 11 miles and camp on the beach overnight, but I am wondering if there is a shortcut I can take out of the park the next day.
Jul 23, 2009 2:19PM
My wife and I plan on going to Kauai in August and we would love to take in a good hike.
I feel I'm getting some mixed messages from this board... everything I read flags this as an intense hike sutible for only experienced hikers... but then I read things like it being done in 4 hours, or being done in crocs... people doing it with "bad knees"...
I'm not in the shape I was when I backpacked the rockies by any means (I have about 30 extra pounds), but I'm rather confused.
Would two people in "average" shape be able to hike this in 2 days?
If not, can you suggest any other lighter hikes that would yield great photo ops? (we are both professional photographers.)
Jul 23, 2009 7:36PM
Hello...friend and I are headed to Kauai Oct 15- 21 2009. I really want to do this hike and I believe the waterfall is at the 6 mile mark? Is Oct a good month weather wise? We are both in good shape. Best guess on how long it would take to do 12 miles in one day? We don't plan to camp overnight
Jul 26, 2009 4:57PM
My boyfriend and i are headed to Kaua'i for the first time in october. I've been looking up information on the Kalalau Trail and haven't been able to find any specific information about the grade of the trail. We are living in boston right now and have been spending time hiking around here quite a bit. I'm just wondering if there was a little bit more information about the hike besides it being difficult and strenuous. any information would help. thank you so much.
Jul 27, 2009 4:43PM
I am taking the trail on August 31st and looking for someone to go with. Its my first time on the trail so I would like to have company just for safety sake. If you know of any sites or ways for me to find someone else taking the trail on that day I would really be truely greatful.
thank you for your time,
Eddy
Jul 29, 2009 6:09PM
I'm hiking the trail with my dad in 2 weeks. We're hiking in one day, camping, hiking out the next to camp at the site near the Hanakapiai Falls. What do you suggest we do for food?
Thanks!
Jul 29, 2009 8:23PM
i was wanting to do this hike and stay two nights next week, but no camping permits are available. any other way to obtain these permits than through the DLNR? are there ever cancellations? what happens if we just go for it without permits? is the trail patrolled by rangers?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 02, 2009 4:39AM
Hey Eddy - what would you pay for a local companion?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 02, 2009 4:40AM
Hey Lauren - think about the trail like the Rockies only much more humid.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 02, 2009 6:43PM
Hi Kyle - I have always preferred a good Therma-rest lounger over a hammock or chair. You'll have a hard time finding wood at the beach but plenty in the valley. The water filter question has already been covered in this forum. Soloman makes incredible shoes but I prefer the trail runners over water shoes - your call. I think it's totally great to have these things at the beach: good food, time, a book, and more time.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 02, 2009 6:44PM
Sarah - park at YMCA Camp Naue in Haena for $5 / night.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 02, 2009 6:47PM
Hi Brian - your question illuminates the point that we all have very different perspectives. I have never once feared for my life on the trail but then again I've seen people crawling. With good shoes, light packs, decent hiking fitness / experience and 2 days you can definitely do the hike. Other great hikes: Hanakapiai falls, Okolehau, Mahaulepu, Kilohana, Kukui, Awaawapuhi.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 02, 2009 6:49PM
Hi Nick - you can either hike to Hanakapiai falls (8 miles RT) or Hanakoa falls (12 miles RT). Both are beautiful. Hanakapiai has a larger pool and more flow. October is a great month unless we get a storm (which can happen any time). Give yourself a full day and start early. W
Steve
Aug 03, 2009 12:08AM
Did the hike two weeks ago. A great hike but strenuous both ways, especially if you do the entire length at one time. DEFINITELY carry enough water (probably at least 3 liters per person each way). Helps to have at least 2 to 3 light meals/energy snacks each way. I used 3 food bars (e.g. Clif bars) plus 3 Clif Shots each way. If you can carry more food/water, it may be helpful as backpack weight allows. Start EARLY in the day (preferably around 6 a.m.) as the increasing heat and humidity will take its toll as the day progresses. Just a note, about a third of the way between Hanakapiai Beach and Hanakoa, a moderately large tree had fallen across a somewhat narrow portion of the trail, making for somewhat difficult maneuvering around the obstacle going in and coming out. I did report the problem to the Dept. of Parks in Lihue after returning and they said they would have volunteers go out to take care of the problem. I guess they don't have formal Parks Service people regularly monitor and take care of these problems.
Aug 03, 2009 12:57AM
Does anyone know the dates of the feral goat hunt on the Kalalau trail? The DLNR usually does not answer the phone and no infomation about the dates is posted on the DLNR website.
Thanks
Aug 03, 2009 1:47AM
Lauren in Boston: while you are training in Boston, i would be doing as many steep hills as possible, wearing the same type/weight backpack as you will on the real hike. (i am assuming u are wearing some sort of backpack ?) do any types of hills, short and steep , and/or long and gradual. thats what me and my girlfriend did in Chicago for a few months before our first Kalalau hike last Sept. Instead of doing long (8 mi.) flatter hikes, do shorter hikes with tons of shorter steeper hills,also wearing the same type footwear that u will in Kauai.
Aug 03, 2009 1:48AM
Sarah: ij wouldnt worry about seeing any rangers. long shot. go for it.
Aug 03, 2009 1:52AM
Sarah: i left my rental car for a couple nights at the end of the road parking lot at Kee . but i had done my 'homework' before the trip and learned about what goes on around there, and made sure we left nothing in the car and left all doors unlocked. when we got back to our car it had been entered and gone through, but no damage... so i guess no harm done ...
Aug 03, 2009 1:54AM
Lisa: my suggestion is to stay more than one lousy night at Kalalau ! AT LEAST 2 sista ! ! i would definitely skip camping at Hanakapei and do it at Kalalau instead.
Aug 04, 2009 2:34AM
Aloha,
im heading over to hike the kalahua trail on the 17th of august. I have missed the month gap to write and secure a spot. Ive talked to state parks of kauai and they said they are all booked for august but come in and try anyway.
Im flying from australia to see this coast and would be devo to miss outon the trail. Is there anything else I can do to get a 5 day camp permit except hope for the best?
Aug 05, 2009 9:44PM
Hi, i plan on doing the trail in early to mid September,this will be my 2nd visit to Kalalau Beach. the first time we camped 2 nights in the camping area by the trees. this time however i would like to try camping in one of those \'sea caves\' located just past the waterfall. My question...is this a safe/recommended area to set-up camp for a few nights? i\'m referring to safety regarding something such as \'rogue\' high waves which could possibly come up far enough to enter the sea cave ? or does this sort of thing only happen during the winter season ? or is there any other reason not to camp there ? thanks very much for this great informative site !
Aug 06, 2009 11:37PM
Hi I am coming to Kauai and would really like to hike the Kalalau but my friends don't want to hike it and I do not want to hike alone. Are there groups that do the hike or ways to meet up with people that want company? Thanks!
Aug 08, 2009 1:58AM
Dear KES,
Spending 5 days in Kalalau the first of October...can't wait. Your info. has been so much help!!!
Was wondering...love to read and plan on taking one or two books, but have heard there is a library up valley. What do you know of it? How to find it? Can anyone check out? Trade? Leave books? Any info would be helpful as books are heavy and I like to travel light!!!
Ciao,
Busconi
Aug 08, 2009 6:23PM
Does anyone know if Bill Summers (I think that is his name) is stil out on the the trail and working on the more precarious parts of it? I met on the trail last year. He had done some prett amazing work on the trail and I hope he is still out there making it safer for everyone. I had heard he had gotten into some legal problems with some state folks but not sure what happened to him.
Aug 08, 2009 7:31PM
I am coming to Kauai and would like to hike with my wife to the falls that is 4 miles in on the trail. We are 50 years old, not in excellent shape, but usually walk several miles on the treadmill with varied inlcine 4 times or so a week. I think we can hanlde the 8 mile RT. Will zipline at 8am in princeville 1st, then drive to Ke\'e to sratrt the hike. Any recommendations/thoughts?
Aug 09, 2009 4:06AM
does anyone know if the rains caused by hurricane felicia are causing problems on the trail?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 09, 2009 7:09PM
The rains are not here yet but we'll get some activity Monday-Tuesday with conditions improving in the latter part of the week.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 09, 2009 7:12PM
Hi Bob - you'll be fine on the hike. I would recommend doing the hike on a different day than you do the zipline - that way you can relax and make it a full day.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 09, 2009 7:14PM
Hi Tommy - yes Bill is still around. He is the best asset we have for maintenance / stewardship on the Na Pali. While the DLNR spends lots of money using helicopters to enforce laws, Bill is down there working away. As a whole, the park is not in great shape because none of the State employees are truly connected to Na Pali. They don't hike, camp or love it like Bill.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 09, 2009 7:27PM
Hi Toni - there are no formal groups but plenty of people on the trail.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 09, 2009 7:30PM
Hi Peter - camping in the cave is OK if there is substantial sand between you and the shoreline. September is usually pretty calm and we get minimal tides here. Check out the high water line and ask other people. The biggest danger is falling rock.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 09, 2009 7:38PM
Hi Sophie - you can try visit the State office in Lihue when you get here. Also try their form at http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/camping/kauai.cfm. They don't make it easy. Rangers rarely actually hike the trail.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 09, 2009 7:46PM
Hi John - I don't know about the dates but I do know it's pretty hard to get info from the DLNR.
Aug 10, 2009 3:25PM
sorry but since i will be on the Island for 2 weeks this year i have to stick to a strict budget this time. I\'ve already spent a Lot getting geared up for the trail. I guess i will have to take my chances and try to hook up with someone at the trail head. Thanks for your response!
Mahalo :)
Aug 11, 2009 1:00AM
John: the feral goat rifle hunt is Sept. 8-13 . hiking/camping can be resumed starting the 14th
Aug 11, 2009 10:14PM
does anyone know , when arriving by plane into LIH airport on Kauai, from which side of the plane do you get the killer views of the island ? thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 12, 2009 12:18AM
Port side Peter - but the views are way better once you get off the plane and start exploring.
Aug 12, 2009 2:05PM
Thanks for this great site - so much useful info. We have our permit for Aug 23-24. We spoke with hotel today and the local who answered said parts of the trail are closed due to weather and trail conditions. He advised against the hike due to conditions; he said he's done it twice. I hope he's incorrect - any feedback would be greatly appreciated. My wife will be crushed if she can't hike the trail.
Aug 12, 2009 2:08PM
Great site! I just went to EMS to buy chlorine dioxide tabs and was told they're not allowed on airplanes, as well as the liquid, but iodine is ok. Does anyone know if this is true? I'm assuming Peddle and Paddle (?) sells the tabs out there if necessary.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 12, 2009 5:10PM
Hi Bobbi - I don't know about the regulations but I wouldn't put it past TSA. Peddle and Paddle or Kayak Kauai sell camping supplies, both are located in Hanalei.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 12, 2009 5:11PM
Hi Jimmy - the trail is open. Any weather we get from tropical depression Felicia will not affect the trail. I spoke with a friend that came out yesterday.
Aug 12, 2009 10:58PM
I rang to book permits for Sept 11-16 and was told the trail will be closed for a goat cull (Sept 8-13). Does anyone know if it would be feasible to kayak in (boat drop-off is no longer an option?), camp at Kalalau for a few days then hike out once they have finished hunting? Or any suggestions for an alternative trail elsewhere on Kauai or neighbour islands? We\'re relaxed about location, but dates are unfortunately inflexible.
Mahalo,
Abby
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 13, 2009 5:17PM
Hi Abby - there are individuals that will drop you off at Kalalau but they are operating unofficially and we can't connect you with them. If you kayak in, you gotta kayak out (kayaking Na Pali when the surf is down is great, you can carry a lot). Na Pali is definitely one of the best hikes in Hawaii. Other personal favorites are Kokee, Waimanu and Haleakala.
Aug 14, 2009 6:03PM
Camping Equipment - When we went, we didn't know about this place to find camping fuel and supplies.
Wish we had known, cause Walmart wasn't much help..
Check it out
http://www.pedalnpaddle.com/main-frame.html
Aloha!
Aug 14, 2009 7:29PM
My wife and I are looking to fly in on Sept. 20 and stay until 24th or 25th. Do you know of a good car shuttle service/ taxi from Lihu?e airport? I?m assuming the best place to get butane gas is at Pedal n Paddle? Honestly how is the camping at Hanakoa? I hear it is not great and I don\'t know about Hanakapi\'ai but I?m sure it\'s busy with people as its only 2 miles in. We are thinking of hiking up the Hanakapi\'ai Valley to the waterfall (I hear it\'s nice) and then camp at either Hanakapi\'ai or Hanakoa as it will be 10 miles if we go up to the Hanakapi\'ai falls and then out to Hanakoa. Also do you recommend the short hike up Hanakoa Valley or the Kalalau Valley? Also, most literature talks about no swimming, wading and bodysurfing at the beaches unless you are an experienced swimmer familiar with local conditions. I?ve read you can swim around the corner to the SW to one or more of the most beautiful beaches in Hawaii or even the Pacific. The book notes that the swim should be done in the summer when the swell is low and you should take fins for the swim back against the current. I talked to the ranger and she noted the swell has been high this year and would not advise it. My question is, is most of the literature trying to avoid most novice swimmers?
Mahalo,
Phil
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 15, 2009 8:00PM
Hi Phillip - you can catch the bus from Lihue to Hanalei. Peddle n Paddle or Kayak Kauai have gear. Hanakoa is not great camping - enclosed, wet, shady. Camping is no longer allowed at Hanakapiai. Kalalau is by far the best camping and exploring. I suggest pushing as far as you can right from the start of your hike. Best is to get to Kalalau in 1 day and spend as much time as possible exploring the beach and valley.
As far as swimming on any Na Pali beach and venturing around the corner to Honopu - if you cannot easily discern currents, changing conditions and other hazards then don't do it. Fact is that people have lost their lives at just about every location here. As locals we know how to asses conditions and work with the ocean. Sure it can be super-calm at any of these beaches, but that is constantly changing. Please please exercise caution.
Aug 17, 2009 12:12AM
We plan on hiking the trail in november. How is the weather then? The areas on the trail where you have to be more cautious, between 6.5 and the 8 mile mark from what I have read. How wide is the trail?
Aug 17, 2009 5:42AM
Hello,
we are going to hike the Kalalau trail from Sep 1 to Sep 3.(Tue-Thu) I have read on DLNR website that Haena beach campground is closed on Mondays. Is there any other place to stay overnight,close to the trail?
Thank you so much!
Aug 20, 2009 9:46PM
We arrived back from Kauai this morning, and since this site was so useful for us I am posting an update. We hiked out of Kalalau after two nights there on Tuesday. It took us 7 hours and the trail is in great shape right now. The exposed areas are actually either rocky or more grippy than other parts of the trail right now...a little rain helps tack up the clay, I could see treacherousness though in very wet or very dry conditions.
The beach at Kalalau is huge right now and Honopu is right around the corner...literally just a couple hundred yards and well worth it, our whole group of 10 made it comfortably. That said, the staff advice holds - assess the ocean and wind conditions, and your own swimming ability. None of us were great swimmers but we are comfortable - all up less than 15 minutes each way, but back will be more against the down coast current. My guess is the beach will be significant at least until mid-september.
A couple of other tips as there is wildly varying info here in the comments:
- @Kyle - take a hammock! it was the most comfortable place in our campsite...we did however sleep both nights on the beach under the stars - highly recommended! If you are taking a thermarest or similar consider a harness that converts it to a chair...easy to carry and you\'ll have a chair too. There is plenty of seating on rocks at most camps though.
- Water, everyone is different so recommendations on how much you need are worthless. I personally drank 9 Litres or so on the day we came out. It is very easy to get dehydrated! Take 1-3 Litres per person and either tablets or a filter to restock at the streams. If you can\'t replenish at the streams you will find it hard to carry enough water - trust me! Be aware that not all filters are rated for leptospirosis, you will need to check this if you filter.
- We are moderately experienced campers and backpackers and found the trail rates up there in difficulty but should be doable by moderately fit pepole with some hikimg experience. The trail even in non exposed areas (just because there is vegetation doesn\'t mean it isn\'t a cliff;) is narrow - watch every step you take (loose rocks etc), particularly when you are tired...if you want to take in the views, stop walking! Thats it you should be fine!
Great great website - thanks again...
Cameron
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 22, 2009 6:49PM
Thanks Cameron!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 22, 2009 7:32PM
Hi Jana - you might try Waipa or Camp Naue (Naue is probably closed but opens up after that first week of September).
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 22, 2009 7:33PM
Hi Patty - November can be great but I'll go with my generic response for weather in Hawaii: hope for great weather / prepare for rain and wind. The trail is about 2 feet wide at the narrowest sections. Have fun (hope you get cool days and clear nights).
Aug 23, 2009 12:42PM
PATTY : the trail can get as narrow as about 1 foot in many areas ,even some more 'dangerous' sections. just go slow, focus, keep your eyes on the trail in front of you. one step at a time and you'll be o.k.
Aug 23, 2009 4:40PM
Explorer Staff, thanks for all that you do to keep people informed about this wonderful island/trail. I am glad to hear that Bill is still on the trail. What an amazing labor of love! One would think that he has created a template that could eaily be copied by a few dedicated folks. A few folks and a few dollars could make a huge difference. I am in the process for booking a May flight to hike the island/trail once again. I know that May is the end of the rainy season but will the trail condition be altered due to the rainy season? I am concerned that I will be coming to a trail that has been battered by the rainy season and in poor condition.
Aug 23, 2009 4:56PM
Is there a website that people can donate money to Bill Summer's cause? I think if more people knew about his work, there would be many people interested in helping this incredible guy keep the trail safe.
Aug 23, 2009 7:08PM
Hi, my partner and I are planning to complete the full 11 mile trail in early October, we are both very fit and experienced hikers. We would like some advice on how long it will take us to complete the trail and where we should camp? Also, what are the options of getting to the trail head without renting a car?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 23, 2009 7:44PM
Hi Thomas - thanks for the positive feedback. Bill is a true ambassador to Na Pali - I just saw him the other day. Alone and without funding, he has done more than a funded crew of DLNR "workers." Just shows the importance of loving and connecting with the place that you work or live. Imagine Na Pali if it were properly managed by local stewards.
Anyway - for May don't worry about trail damage. It's a non factor. Na Pali has great drainage and rains and erosion happen year round. May is a great month.
Aug 28, 2009 10:21AM
Hi, I'm hiking the entire Kalalau trail in november with a tent. I don't know what to do, because I have to apply for a permit : spending 1 night in Hanakapiai and 1 night in Kalalau, or 1 in Hanakoa & 1 in Kalalau? I'd also like to hike the Waimea canyon trail. Is it possible to go from Kalalau to Koke'e without a car?
Thank you so much, greetings from Spain!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 29, 2009 6:25PM
Hi Jordi - camping is not allowed at Hanakapiai. As stated before in this forum we recommend hiking all the way to Kalalau in 1 day. There is no connecting trail to Kokee. Have fun.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 29, 2009 6:36PM
Hi Ravit - your questions have already been answered in this forum. Have fun.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 29, 2009 6:38PM
Hi Tommy - there is no site for Bill donations that we know of.
Aug 30, 2009 3:05AM
Tommy,
Found this website for donations to Bill Summers in my research on the trail...created by someone who met Bill and wanted to help him out. http://billsummers.info/index.html
As far as I know it is legit but you'll want to check it out first before donating.
I'm heading over in October to spend 5 nights in Kalalau...hoping I'll meet up with Bill.
ciao,
Busconi-
Aug 30, 2009 12:47PM
I am coming to Kauai next week to hike the Kalalau trail with a friend. We are planning on camping at Kalalau beach 2 nights. My question is regarding transportation. Trying to figure out the most cost effective way to get to the trailhead. Heard that it would be unsafe to leave a rental car at the trailhead for 2 nights. What would you recommend for transportation? or parking?
Aug 31, 2009 3:32PM
TARA : last fall i left my rental car at the trailhead for 2 nites. i left nothing of value inside and left it unlocked. when we returned from the hike, someone had gone thru the car (glove box open, etc etc) but there was no damage done.
Sep 01, 2009 2:33AM
TARA.. hitchhike . my wife and i hitched all over the island in may when we did the kalalau . she had never hitched in her life . by the end of the vacation she was standing at the side of the road with a smile and her thumb stuck out . we are both in our fifties .
Sep 01, 2009 3:07AM
My wife and I hiked a good portion of the trail on Aug 22nd and 23rd. We got our permits around 1 month before as required. Our plan was to hike all the way to Kalalau beach and camp there for the night and return the next morning. We did ample research about the challenges of the hike by reading this site other sites and asking locals when we arrived. We are both in fairly decent shape, however my wife is in better condition physically. We started early around 6:30am and enjoyed the beatiful views, took some awesome pics, refreshed our water with chlorine dioxide drops we got at a local sporting goods store.
It was tough but manageable until we arrived at about the 7 mile spot on the trail. I think this was the beginning of the \"crawlers ledge\" section, or close to that section. I was physically shot at this point and when I looked down I felt with my legs and endurance shot, that if I continued I would be risking my safety. My wife wanted to continue but turned around with me at that spot. We camped at a camping spot and hiked out the next day. This hike is the real deal and those taking it on should do their homework about this challenge. For me it was more difficult than I anticipated. I am dissapointed we did not make it to the end, however, it is very remote and an injury out there would mean hours and days before someone could help one out.
For those in excellent shape and who do their homework this hike is doable, however, the full 11 miles in one day is an intense, challenging goal and is not for everyone.
I will always cherish and remember our hike on the trail and respect this gorgeous, wonderful place.
Sep 01, 2009 3:49PM
RAVIT : i did the whole trail last Sept. w/my girlfriend. we are both mid-upper 30's, very good physical shape, experienced hikers. she carried about 25 lbs. in her backpack, i had about 32. including several 'rest'/water/food breaks, it took us a little over 9 hours . we started by 630 a.m. We are doing it again in mid -Sept.
Sep 05, 2009 3:05AM
I traveled the trail many times in the late ninety\'s - each time i did it i got faster - fastest time was outbound at around six hours - but we were trying to outrun a forecast windstorm we had heard about from incoming hikers. I think i was 37 in decent health (SF mountain biker) - the guy who said it is the \"real deal\" is right - if you screw up you will die on the trail - i have had friends held back from the abyss of a cliff edge with just the strap of their back pack. i have run into camoflaged \"goat hunters\" that appeared out out no where and scared the xxxx out of me and then a dozen naked arizona cheerleaders on K beach being led on a vision quest by Judah... really. Travel light, get the cheap green sock reef walker with the soft bottom, great for the mud since your feet WILL be wet the entire time on the trail.
Dont be a rebel, get the permit - when you see that magnum PI helicopter fly in to camp and they cut up your tent and send you packing - it sux. Keep in mind there is also a subcluture that inhabits (and possibly protects) the area that can be both heavenly and lord of the rings.
And you city dwellers - yes YOU - you are welcome to come but beware, there is a condition that exists called \"green-out\" which is similar to snow blindness - you can be made crazy by too much jungle, and dont forget the giant centipedes - sting like a wasp right on the heel of your foot! Oh yeah and the goats that get all territorial and toss rocks down from the ledges above, oh and the wild pigs - DO NOT MESS WITH THEM! unless they are on a spit, tastey local boy style!
the best tent in K valley is a tarp - one up top one on the ground.
pack out your trash you lazy yuppie guppy\'s!
the waterfall at the far end of the beach once had a dead goat in it (at the top part where it flows over the cliff out of view from the ground) and every one who drank the water got super sick.
Be careful camping under the big mango tree - never sit under the coco palms near the ranger shack etc...
Aloha
J
Sep 07, 2009 2:47AM
This has been said many times and I am going to repeat that this site is an incredible resource if you are considering hiking the whole or even just part of the trail. For those that hike past the 2 mile section you are required to get hiking permits and I took Curt\'s advice from this site and contacted DLNR to get them. I used the email that he mentioned in his post which is... pearl.t.ajimine@hawaii.gov. Pearl was very quick to respond to my email inquiry\'s and it was a simple process to get the permits. I requested the permits about 35-40 days before my arriving to Kauai.
TIP FROM MY EXPERIENCE(hiked with my wife Aug 22-23, 2009)...
If you want to go to the end at Kalalau Beach I STRONGLY RECCOMMEND that you plan on camping at Hanokoa the first day. This way you can wake up early the next day rested and refreshed to hike the next 4 miles. I did not do this and tried to do it in one day and I was too tired at the 7 mile section and then hiked back to Hanakapia which meant my wife and I hiked 12 miles in one day, longer then if we would have not stopped at the 7 mile section. Everybody\'s condition and hiking abilities are different, but in my opinion it is safest to camp at Hanokoa and then finish the next day.
Unless you hiked this trail before, you should read all the posts here and you\'ll get many perspectives and then seriously take stock of your own abilities and do what makes the most sense for you. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Jimmy
Sep 08, 2009 11:36PM
A big thanks to the Kauai Explorer Staff -
Per my earlier post and the KES response, it appears the best way to get to the trailhead from the airport in Lihue without a rental car is to take the bus to Hanalei. My question is; what the best way to get from Hanalei to the trailhead? Taxi, Shuttle, beg a local or like I read in a previous post hitchhike?
How is the day hike up Hanakapi?ai and Hanakoa Valley hikes? Are they worth hiking up?good waterfalls etc or is the only valley worth hiking up is Kalalau Valley?
Please excuse me if I missed this info. on another post.
I?m are Hiking in on he 21st of September and out on the 25th. So if anyone is doing the same and wants to coordinate/share a taxi transportation to the trailhead send me a e-mail at phillip@pdlastudio.com.
Sep 09, 2009 6:22AM
We hiked the Kalalau Trail on August 31st. My girlfriend had only hiked once before (3 miles in the cool weather of New Hamphire). She said she would tackle Na Pali if I carried in all the supplies. My pack weighed about 40 pounds; she carried a camelbak. She knows how to negotiate!!! She made it with no problem although she is amazing and determined. It took us about 11 hours each way but with a lighter pack it could easily be done in about 8 hours. We slept on Kalalau Beach and returned the next day. Simply amazing hike and similar to the one I hiked to Boiling Lake in Dominica.
Sep 09, 2009 3:27PM
A big thanks to the Kauai Explorer Staff -
Per my earlier post and the KES response, it appears the best way to get to the trailhead from the airport in Lihue without a rental car is to take the bus to Hanalei. My question is; what the best way to get from Hanalei to the trailhead? Taxi, Shuttle, beg a local or like I read in a previous post hitchhike?
How is the day hike up Hanakapi?ai and Hanakoa Valley hikes? Are they worth hiking up?good waterfalls etc or is the only valley worth hiking up is Kalalau Valley?
Please excuse me if I missed this info. on another post.
I?m are Hiking in on he 21st of September and out on the 25th. So if anyone is doing the same and wants to coordinate/share a taxi transportation to the trailhead send me a e-mail at phillip@pdlastudio.com.
Sep 09, 2009 9:19PM
I just called the state parks guy at Lihue and he told me that the camping permits are not available for the dates I wanted, and that I needed to show up in person to get a hiking permit, and that the hiking permit would only allow me to go to the 6 mile point and no further. Does this sound accurate?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 12, 2009 5:39PM
Hi Glenn - getting good customer service from the DLNR depends on the person you get. I don't think it's right that the permitting system is so complicated being that Na Pali is one Hawaii's premier parks. Keep trying.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 12, 2009 5:40PM
You can find the permit application here: http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/camping/kauai.cfm Fill it out and mail to the Lihue district office: Division of State Parks 3060 Eiwa Street, Room 306 Lihue, Hawai?i 96766 Include a self addressed, stamped envelope and they will mail the permits back to you. Cost is $10/night/person for camping a Kalalau.
Sep 13, 2009 11:20AM
hey there,
some freinds and i are planning on hiking the trail next week. we have a few questions that we would appreciate some information about:
* were wondering if many people boat back from the end of the trail? if so, how would we go about arranging this?
* how pedantic are the rangers about carrying permits? and how much is the fine if we do not obtain them in time? furthermore, if we ARE discovered without a permit is it just a fine? or will we be turned away from the campground?
*will iodine tablets suffice to decontaminate drinking water? is boiling water enough? is there any alternative?
*how much would a taxi cost from lihue to ke\'e?
*would you recommend hiking the full trail in one day or is it worth staying at the various campgrounds along the way?
thanks and sorry about all the questions!
regards,
Traviconuko
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 13, 2009 5:28PM
Hi Fernanda - December is not peak whale season but there usually are a few early arrivals. The whales are most active in Feb-March. Dolphins are here year round. Have fun!.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 13, 2009 5:32PM
Hi Traiconuko - all of your questions have already been answered in this forum.
Sep 13, 2009 9:04PM
A friend and I will be hiking Sept 21-24, hoping to make the full 11-miles in one day. Loking forward to seeing for myself all that is written on this great site. any advise thats not on this site? we are both in moderate shape, having hiked the grand canyon last year with little to no problems.
Sep 14, 2009 3:43PM
LISA : pretty much all the advice you need (and then some !) is found somewhere on this site. just keep scrolling and reading ..... this site is the best. i will be hiking in on 9/20 with my girlfriend(all the way in one day) and back out on 9/25 (actually we may have a boat pick-up that morning).we did the hike last year in early Sept.(our first time). are you carrying backpacks? i assume you will be,since you said you are staying a few days. get a real early start(we plan on being on the trail by 630 latest) and get a good rest the nite before cuz you will need it. drink plenty of water before and during (we used only water purification tablets,no filter, w/out problems). feel free to email me tsx500@yahoo.com with any questions. there are plenty of long stretches of the trail where you need to be super-careful of your footing. there are plenty of opportunities to get hurt if you are not being focused on the trail. not trying to be Debbie Downer here, but you dont want to get injured on this trail, even a twisted ankle. so stay focused,dont rush,and enjoy. it\\\'s the best coolest most ultimate hike (and destination !) that i\\\'ve ever experienced, no doubt. feeel free to email me ! Tim, Chicago
Sep 16, 2009 12:44AM
I hiked the trail twice, once halfway and once all the way including camping. I've heard from sources on the trail--"hippies" or "residents"--as they are referred to-- that if you don't have permits, rangers will destroy your gear, i.e. rip/ruin tents and packs and demand that you leave immediately. Anyone know if this is true? I've always had permits, but never seen a ranger. In regards to water, I would both filter and treat the water. Don't want to risk getting ill where help is a loooong way off. This is the best site for info about this trail, bar none. Thanks KEStaff!
Sep 17, 2009 1:29AM
For those of you looking for a ride to the trailhead, consider Craig's list. I placed a ride request note under Rideshare and the next day I had several responses. A heck of a lot cheaper than a taxi or rental car and you get to spend the time talking to someone local. Twelve more days before I hit the trail....can hardly wait.
Sep 17, 2009 11:25PM
Aloha...we are coming over next weekend (9/25-9/29/09)to hike to Kalalau over 4 days; we have a stove, but need gas canisters since we can't carry on plane. Kauai Kayak didn't have, Pedalnpaddle are not answering, any other resources we could try? Also, any word on trail conditions?
Mahalo!
Sep 20, 2009 10:20PM
Hi, I'm coming to Kauai Sept 24 - Oct 5. I plan on doing the Kalaulau hike. Maybe not all 11 miles, but I really want to get a good hike in, and I've been hiking my whole life, in great shape. Not scared of heights. I am bringing a friend that IS scared of heights so I think I'm on my own. Can I hike this trail or any trail alone or would you not recommeend it?
Sep 21, 2009 3:53PM
Thanks for all the great info. You mentioned parking at the YMCA Camp Naue for safety purposes. How far is this from the trailhead? Is it walkable?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 22, 2009 5:33AM
Camp Naue is about 2 miles from the trailhead.
Sep 25, 2009 5:12AM
Great information, thank you so much!
I understand that there are two campgrounds on the trail. One at Hanakoa (6 miles) and one at Kalalau (11 miles).
How is the one at Hanakoa? Does it offer any facilities? Is it comparable to the one in Kalalau? We are thinking about staying for two nights at Hanakoa to allow us enough time to enjoy the best part of the trail. Would that work?
Thanks in advance for your advise!
Sep 25, 2009 9:31PM
By far the toughest adventure I've ever done. The views were amazing, and well reaching Kalalau could not have been more exciting. The climbs are tough, and steep. I can see how this trail can be very dangerous. Luckily my boyfriend and I did this on a great weather day. It was slick in some areas, but I have to say that miles 6.5 through 8 were tough, and well if it had rained or been raining we would not have gone... I'd hate to be out there on those days. If I had to give any advice to add to what others have provided, is check the weather. Heavy/moderate rainfall can definitely make things more sketchy than they already are and read lots of reviews if this is new adventrure for you.
It's absolutely AMAZING!!! And I'm glad that we got the opportunity to experience this.
(excuse my spelling :))
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 27, 2009 6:00PM
Hi Petra - I would suggest staying only 1 night at Hanakoa (if even that). Kalalau is a much nicer area to camp - more open, bigger, drier. In general the camping facilities on Na Pali are lacking due to the fact that the DLNR mismanages the park. That said, the experience and the area is amazing and beautiful - mother nature shines!
Sep 27, 2009 9:39PM
My husband and I spent 4 nights at Kalalau from Sept 20 to 24th. As many others have posted it was an incredible physically challenging experience.
Our bad experience occurred at the end of the trip. We did park our car at Ke'e beach with nothing in the car and the doors unlocked as some have recommended. When we returned to the car, someone had drilled a hole in our gas tank and siphoned out the gas! That form of vandalism never occurred as a possibility to me. Heed previous posts . Don't leave a car at the beach overnight!
Sep 28, 2009 1:27AM
I am looking for a Tim Lydgate who lived on Maui for a bit and was a photographer. If you are he, or know who I'm talking about, please e-mail me. We had such a great connection, once upon a long time ago......Mary
Sep 29, 2009 4:59AM
Anybody know current conditions? Flying Tuesday, hitting the trail Wednesday through Friday.
Sep 29, 2009 7:29AM
I read some comments about hiking to Kalalau in November... but just to reassure myself - is it safe? I'm from O'ahu and my boyfriend and I plan to hike there and camp for a couple days.
How are the rains and surf? Is it okay to camp during this month?
Mahalo,
Kawai
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 29, 2009 5:21PM
Hi Kawai - right now the rainfall is a typical Trady wind flow. Scattered showers. The surf this time of year is more active, but that doesn't affect the Kalalau trail.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 29, 2009 5:21PM
Epic conditions. Have fun.
Sep 30, 2009 1:49AM
Flying to Kauai on Friday, Oct 2, will be on the trail bright and early Saturday morning. Anyone else hitting the trail the same day??
Looking forward to five spectacular days!!!!
Really want to thank Kauai Explorer Staff for all the info posted on this site. It was by far the best site for accurate, honest information on the trail. Thanks soooo much. I feel really prepared !!!!
ciao,
Busconi-
Sep 30, 2009 6:44PM
KATHY : that reallys sucks about them stealing all your gas ! i left my unlocked rental car at the trailhead last week for 5 nites w/out a problem. and last year i left it there for 2 or 3 nites, the bad guys just went through it but no damage done.
Oct 01, 2009 9:04PM
I have read about people LIVING illegally in Kalalalu Valley... Is that so? Is it likely to meet them? Are they friendly?
Oct 01, 2009 10:27PM
Many people have mentioned having trouble obtaining permits for Kalalau. I have just received my permits for May 2010 and the process couldn't have been easier. Got to the Hawaii Division of State Parks website to download the application (all instructions are listed), fill it out and mail it to them with a check to pay the fees. It took about a month to get them back, but I had no problem! Apply for permits in advance (try 6 to 8 months ahead of time!). Thanks for the great website- lots of good info! - Peace
Oct 02, 2009 6:41PM
TRIP REPORT : i have gotten so much helpful advice from this awesome website over the last couple years,which helped me plan and prepare for my first Kalalau Trail hike last year,and my 2nd time last month(mid-Sept.09). this hike is the real deal, and the more practical,\'local\' advice you can get prior to doing a hike like this one, the better. so i decided to \'give back\' by submitting a trip report of our trip done a couple weeks ago in mid to late Sept. My girlfriend and i were staying in a Princeville condo and drove our rental car to the trailhead ,arriving at 615. we left the car there for the full 5 nights(doors unlocked), and when we got back, it was still there, unharmed,no issues. so back to the start of the hike...after final prep of our packs,etc (i carried about 40 lbs.,my girl carried around 30). this was our second hike in to Kalalau Beach so this time we had a much better idea what to expect,etc. It seemed like alot of the first 6 miles or so was consistently moderately wet (although i know the conditions could\'ve been much worse,like in winter) and that made our pace slightly slower than we wanted,due to obvious safety concerns. it took us about 1:20 to Hanakapei stream (approx. end of mile 2). along the way,the only water purification we used was Katadyn tablets (chloride dioxide i think is the active ingredient)just like last year. the trail finally seemed to start drying out after mile 6 or so.it seemed like most of the time up to mile 6 it was raining lightly. we had no problems with the \'cliffy\' parts around miles 7-8,just took our time to avoid any \'excitement\'.also we knew what to expect since we did the trail last year,so that helped the nerves a bit.eventually it took us about 9 hours total to reach the beach.we made a beeline to the first large seacave past the waterfall hoping that there was \'vacancy\' there,since that\'s where we stayed last year(Sep.08) and loved it. luckily there was only one small group of campers in the cave,so we could easily setup our camp there w/out crowding anybody.while i\'m thinking about it, here\'s a little \'warning\' to anyone thinking of camping in one of the caves ... beware of falling rocks from the cliffs directly above and around the caves. i think they are mostly kicked down the cliffs by goats (intentionally ? )although i imagine some rocks may fall due to natural erosion,etc. We saw several rocks,all sizes,fall to the sand and made sure that whenever we exited or entered the cave, to move quickly thru the \'danger zone\' as we called it. the beach this year was much shorter than last year same time, due to the ocean being higher/bigger swell ? so we couldnt walk down to the western end as far as last year. oh well. things could be worse . . . we met a few people who the day before had tried to swim from the far western edge of the beach, around the rocky point over to Honopu Beach, but they were stopped midway and forced to return, when they ran into a school of man-o-war\'s and one guy got cut up pretty good by them ! but he was ok fortunately, no serious harm done. prior to our hike, i had heard from Tracy, an employee in Hanalei at Kayak Kauai, that there would be a couple large swells coming in around the 3rd or 4th day of our 5-nite stay at the beach.this info made me worry about our intended camping spot in the seacave,since it is not as elevated as most of the traditional camping spots behind the beach in the trees. and my worries were validated as during the 4th night the water started creeping up closer and closer to us,eventually forcing us(and the other cavesters) out early that morning. we re-located down the beach (east),safely out of harm\'s way,for the final 5th night.during our 5 night stay, we visited the valley once,hoping to make it to the big pool/Outlaw pool (not sure of the difference between the 2) which is located about 2 miles into the valley, but we \'lost the trail\' around 1 mile in, and just hung out there by the stream and had a little lunch before heading back.talking to other campers who visited the valley, it seems that alot of people get lost,just like us, trying to find the big pools, unless you get help from a \'local\' who knows his way. most of our time at the beach was spent just relaxing,reading,talking to new friends that we met every day,etc. Also,the amount of stars you can see on a clear dark night, is amazing,not to be missed ! We had pre-arranged for a small boat to pick us up the morning of our departure. so we packed all our stuff into our packs and put them inside large,sturdy garbage bags to protect them from the ocean. we did this last year successfully , as the waves were very small.however, this year was a different story. our boat arrived at 730 and we(along with 2 other couples we met on our trip,who were looking to avoid the hike-out and take a boat) all dragged our fully-loaded garbage bags to the water\'s edge. however, the surf would not be our friend this day,as non-stop 8-12 foot waves washed away our hopes of an easy 30-minute boat ride back to civilization. one couple made an attempt to time the waves but they were quickly pummelled back to reality by a 10-footer. after waiting and waiting for about 30 minutes,hoping for a brief respite from the ocean, we waved-off the waiting boat and began readying our packs (and our minds) for the long hike back. it really was just too risky trying to get our heavy bags out to the boat in the conditions. if we had just been swimming out to the boat w/out any bags,then it would have probably been doable safely,since everyone was decent swimmers.by the time we had re-prepared our packs for the hike back, it was 9 am,and we planned to do the whole hike in 1 day,as the other 2 couples had late flights to catch that night. on the hike back,we stayed with one couple while the third couple (married) had to slow their pace dramatically since the wife\'s feet were in very bad condition,causing her great pain to walk far. that couple eventually made it back safely in about 9 hours, and we made it in just over 7 hours,as our packs luckily were significantly lighter than the way in,as most of our food was gone,plus i \'donated\' a few items to other campers before leaving (a couple cheap blankets,couple books,etc). also the weather going back was better than the way in...no rain,and the trail was much dryer overall than the hike in. although we were really hoping to get that easy boat ride back, looking back i\'m kind of glad that we hiked it out, since we didnt hike out last year(only in),so now,in a sense, i feel more \'complete\' .plus,putting aside the tremendous physical and mental challenges of the trail,we got to experience, for the third time,all the beauty and wonders that this incredible hike offers. and let me tell you, each time gets better, although i admit that the very first time (Sep 08) was definitely \'extra\' special ! thanks again to everyone on this site whose excellent advice helped us thoroughly prepare for our hike(s) this year and last. we definitely plan on doing this hike again,hopefully next year sometime.
Phil
Oct 04, 2009 8:05AM
Just came back from Kalalau yesterday (Friday). Spectacular trail. A few points to emphasize again are:
1. Every section of this trail is challenging one way or another - climbing up and down rocks, slippery mud, cliff ledges, shifting sand and gravel, tree roots, etc., all on very steep slopes. Misteps due to fatigue or carelessness could have very serious consequences. This isn\'t the trail to push your limits.
2. Trail is plenty wide if you pay attention to your footing and don\'t get distracted.
3. The cliffs at Mile 7 are actually easier than other parts because the footing is good (when its dry) and it is very short. Long drop, however, if you are careless.
4. Frequent showers and erosion make many parts of the trail slippery and/or unstable with loose rock. Take hiking poles.
5. Support the organizations and individuals who work to maintain the trail against the forces of nature and the erosion caused by feral goats. I ran into Bill Summers Wednesday. He\'s doing heroic work, but could use some help.
Oct 06, 2009 7:25PM
My husband and I are trying to plan a trip to Hawaii in the second week of January. We are hoping to backpack for 3-4 days and then stay at a hotel and lounge for a couple days. The Kalalau trail seems like the perfect backpacking portion. I am wondering what sort of weather we could expect in January and wondering realistically about the 6.5-8mile sections of the trail. We've both hiked extensively in the pacific northwest and on the east coast as well as throughout switzerland, and I want to know how truly steep and fear provoking these sections are. Thanks for any advice people have.
Oct 06, 2009 7:29PM
from some post i read i need a permit to do the whole trail. were do i get this permit?
i also read that it is possible to arrange a boat pick up if you do not want to hike - out. anny links / urls were this can be arranged?!?
i am really looking forward to our holiday in november, and at least we would like to to the short trip to the Hanakapi`ai Valley falls. Of course doing the whole trail is a challenge, as my wife broke her feet this summer and still has some, but little trouble with that. so we may hike in, but do not want to hike out....
Regards, Stefan
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 06, 2009 11:46PM
Hi Sara - weather is hit and miss in January. You just have to go for it and be prepared. It's not that you'll get cold, just potentially wet. I never wear rain gear while hiking Na Pal (feels like a plastic bag sauna and you sweat plenty anyway). I do like a solid tent, good pad, rain tarp and cocoa. I honestly cannot give you advice on the infamous ledge - people have totally polarized reactions. Personally it's one of my favorite parts. Have fun. W
Oct 07, 2009 6:05PM
SARAH : i have done the whole trail 3x , once last year and twice last month. i\'ve never done the trail in very wet conditions,as you may (or hopefully not)experience in January,although the cliffy sections tend to be relatively drier than miles 1-6. if you search on Youtube (try \"Kalalau Trail cliffy\" for example)there are several videos to look at, plus lots of info on this website if you scroll back and do some reading. if you have issues with height or vertigo,you could have a problem at times. from my experience,most people are a little concerned/anxious prior to hitting the cliffy parts for their first time, then they get thru w/out a problem and continue onwards. also, i have met and heard about people who really got freaked out by these parts. last year one girl i met on Kalalau Beach made it thru after a minor panic attack,but was too scared to hike back out 3 days later, and luckily found a guy on the beach w/a kayak , who took her back. also this year (last month) i met a gal in a similar situation, she got pretty scared on the way in (but made it all the way), but didnt believe that she could do it again on the hike out, as she was asking around looking to take a boat out a couple days later. the only problem is, it\'s pretty much impossible to get a boat pickup after Sept. due to the rougher ocean conditions that occur in the fall and winter. Personally, i researched (like you are doing) the cliffy parts prior to my first hike last year,and just tried to mentally prepare in advance.i dont really have issues w/heights but you probably wont catch me skydiving or bungee-jumping either ! when we got to the cliffy parts last year, it was kind of like i expected, and we just took our time,focused on each step,and blocked out any distractions until we got thru. the less weight you are carrying in your pack,the better (i think) since you will feel more \"nimble\" w/lighter weight. plus, if you\'re wearing a pack, try to make sure there isnt any gear sticking out to the sides (sleeping pad/bag,etc) that could hit against the cliff(or catch on a tree-limb along other parts of the trail) and knock you off balance. during the cliffy sections, it\'s pretty tight with the cliff on one side of you,a 12\" wide trail beneath you, and occasionally sheer,unprotected dropoff on the other side. also, alot of people (including me) will kind of lean into the cliff side and grab onto rock to help stabilize, especially around the more tricky parts. take your time, dont rush, keep your eyes on the trail beneath and immediately in front of you, and you\'ll be fine. it can be a bit windy in these sections,so be ready for that too. there are a couple small sections around miles 7-8 that arent really considered \"cliffy\" but where the footing is kind of crumbly,loose dirt (narrow too) and you need to be extra careful there too. even prior to the cliffy parts , alot of the trail is quite narrow w/dangerous dropoffs, and alot of times you can\'t really see the edges of the trail due to heavy foliage growth which covers and borders the trail edges, almost giving a little bit of false sense of security. be careful to keep your feet on the trail and dont step on the \'edge\' since the foliage may hide a dropoff that may not be visible.
Oct 11, 2009 4:51PM
Just returned from Kalalau...five wonderful nights and six days. Thought I\'d leave just a few thoughts and suggestions.
1. Train for the hike and try to get in hills. . .the Kalalau trail doesn\'t have flat stretches. I\'ve done longer hikes and hikes with far greater elevation gain, but when you throw in tropical heat and humidity, slippery conditions when wet, drop-offs along the way...it\'s a serious trail
2. Pay attention to the trail. While the drop-off is visable at the \"scary\" part, that same drop-off is all along the trail but the vegetation gives a false sense of security. If you want to take a picture or gaze at the scenery, stop and plant your feet. You never know when you might step on a slippery guava fruit, a loose rock, crumbling gravel or just wet mud. I suggest treking poles...at least one.
2a. Stream crossings...at the three major streams...be careful. If a rock looks wet it is probably slippery. I saw a guy try to boulder hop and slipped right off and took a nasty hit on his head. Easy to take your shoes off and walk across.
3. Keep hydrated...I came out on one of the hottest days with high humidity and NO wind what-so-ever. I went through five liters of water/gator-aid that day.
4. Stay more than one night if at all possible. Many came in, had time to set up camp, see the waterfall on the beach, watch a sunset, eat dinner, and then go to bed. Most were dog tired in the morning and were dreading the hike back. Stay at least two nights. There is more to Kalalau than the beach.
5. Get up the valley...there are wonders up there to see besides Big Pool. Go up the river trail and find whirlpool falls, Ginger Pools, Outlaw Pools and swim in each one. If you are in good shape, hike up to Davis Falls...AMAZING but check the rope installed in the steep part to be sure it isn\'t rotten before you trust your weight to it...find the Tamarind tree and try one of the nuts..flavor just explodes in your mouth. Find some mint for your tea or watercress for your salad. The oranges are just about ready to ripen and the same with the passion fruit. Find the giant mango trees....the valley is amazing and you should definitely take the time to explore. (and there is a library if you know where to look!!)
6. Get to know the people...the campers who come in are from all over the world..in my six days I met some of the greatest people...Phil and Cindy from Colorado...I loved the Peppermint Schnapps you left me...Jim and Jen from Washington, thanks for the Cuban cigar, Mark and Dylan from Michigan thanks for the travel tips and sharing coffee in the morning, Don from North Carolina who has been coming to the valley each October for the past 24 years - thanks for the rum, cowboy coffee and friendship, the two couples from Germany, the newly weds who bought a tent a K-Mart and hiked in on a whim, and on and on and on. And then there are the residents of the valley. My first morning I visited with Steve who has been in the valley over 30 years...he brought me mangoes and a papaya, get to know him as he knows this valley like the back of his hand, and Uncle T...a real social guy who would give you the shirt off his back and is an amazing cook, Phillip who gave me a hand across the river, Mayor Ron, Dave and G who shared the best popcorn I\'ve ever eaten in my life. Take time to get to know the culture in the valley...I don\'t think you really get to know a place until you get to know the people. If you\'re lucky you might get invited to a pizza party.
7. Take care of the valley...you would not believe the amount of trash that has been left by people...too lazy or too tired to take out their stuff. If you bring it in, take it out. If you have the strength, take out some of the extra trash. We need to do all we can to preserve this valley.
In conclusion, be prepared, be careful, take time to soak up the beauty, the spirit and culture and take care of it. There are very few places in this world more beautiful than Kalalau. Enjoy.
Oct 12, 2009 6:01PM
My wife and I are planning on hiking the Na Pali coast on 19th and 20th of October. We have already obtained our permits and are planning to start early next monday. However I was just seeing the weather forecast for next week and it is supposed to rain on both Monday and Tuesday. My question was is it possible for us to change the dates on our permits and if yes, what is the process?
Thanks in advance.
Oct 13, 2009 11:57PM
Aloha,
I am so grateful that your site exists! It is the best on Kauai and the Kalalau trail by miles(11 miles).
Despite having read all comments regarding the permit and just having called the State Park authority, the situation remains unclear to me.
I investigated if a permit for 25 Oct to 28 Oct can be issued on-site and the friendly lady of the State Park authority affirmed this request!
The office is open Mon-Fri 8am to 3pm, thus I can apply only on Monday 26 Oct and start the hike on 27 October, tha´s fine.
However, for Tuesday 27 Oct, a permit would only be valid for Hanakoa and not Kalalau. Thus we would not be allowed to hike out in one day. On Wednesday 28 Oct the permit would be valid also for Kalalau.
1.) Is it possible to have staged permits on the Kalalau trail?
2.) Is it possible to apply and collect a permit for the Kalalau trail with a state park authority on another island or only in Kauai?
I know that my investigation may be too late now but an answer shall at least help me for the next time!
Thanks for your help!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 18, 2009 5:23PM
Ravi - you'll have to contact the DLNR for that. Don't trust the weather reports.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 18, 2009 5:25PM
The DLNR is not that flexible with permits, it they are not available they are simply not available. The good news is that rangers never hike the trail.
Oct 19, 2009 7:22AM
It seems like getting to Kalalau on Day 1 is recommended, but for a 4 day/3 night trip is it worthwhile to just hike to Hanakoa in order to fit in a side trip to Hanakapiai Falls on the first day, then stay at Kalalau the next 2 nights?
Oct 21, 2009 8:20AM
Hi There! I'm planning a solo trip to Kauai in late December, after visiting a friend in Honolulu for Christmas. I'm a 27 y/o female from Colorado originally, currently living in San Francisco, so I've done my share of hiking. I'm trying to figure out how to see Na Pali, and if it's at all doable to hike a portion of the Kalalau Trail solo. I know that hiking alone - particularly as a woman - is not advised, but wondered your thoughts. What if I were to only go for a portion of the trail (~4 miles one-way and then return), rather than going the full 11 miles. Do you think that would be doable, or would you still advise against it?
If you still recommend having a buddy, I know people have asked about finding hiking buddies in the past, but can you think of any suggestions / are there any group tours that arrange hiking expeditions?
Mahalo!
Oct 29, 2009 6:15AM
My boyfriend and I (late 30\'s in age) will be visiting Kauai in mid December, and plan on hiking the Kalalau Trail, up to Hanakapiai Beach, and back, in one day. I\'d like to know:
1) If hiking poles are needed (we\'re not in the best shape, but have hiked easy to moderate trails, including Oahu\'s Diamond Head which is the most strenuous we\'ve done, without a problem).
2) Since I want to carry as little as possible in my backpack, how much cold liquid per person should we take for that 4-mile round-trip hike? [I\'ll also have an umbrella, digital camera, reef shoes and a small amount of high-carb food.... we\'re planning to eat a hearty breakfast before arriving at the trailhead between 7am-8am]
3) Where is parking located nearest the trailhead?
4) Are the narrow ledges everyone talks about, located on the first 2-mile stretch, or are those ledges past Hanakapiai Beach?
Thanks for any information.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Oct 30, 2009 5:36PM
Hi Kim - Hanakapiai is definitely more challenging than Mt. Leahi. 1) Bring hiking poles if you like them. 2) It's hot, so hydrate before and bring whatever you'll need for the 2-4 hour hike. 3) Don't bring an umbrella! 4) Parking is at Kee (the trailhead). 5) the notorious ledges are past Hanakapiai.
Nov 03, 2009 1:14AM
I've been reading and reading and watching youtube videos about the trail. I have permits for mid November, but am freaking myself out about these miles 6.5-8. I've heard about recent restoration work that has made it a little bit better- has that restoration held up?
Nov 04, 2009 11:15PM
Kim:If you are hiking upto the Hanakapei falls it would be a 8 mile round trip hike for you.
Nov 07, 2009 6:36AM
Aloha...just a quick question...is the trail busy during thanksgiving and that weekend?
Malahos
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 09, 2009 5:08AM
Hi Kevin - it's been quiet but expect more people around any holiday. Most only day-hike to Hanakapiai.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 09, 2009 5:24AM
Hi Andrea - do you want to experience Kalalau? If the answer is yes then stop watching the videos and try not to think about the narrow parts. When you get there you can always turn around (unless you look up to realize they are behind you already).
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 09, 2009 5:29AM
Hi Arnold - the camping at Kalalau is superior plus there's plenty of exploring to do down there.
Nov 12, 2009 11:12PM
My husband and I attempted the trial last Tuesday. Lo and behold, it rained nearly 3 inches that day!!! The trail became extremely difficult and slippery. Our plan to camp at mile 6 was cut to turning around at mile 4 (just prior to the falls) due to conditions. It is NO lie!!! The rain will make the once easy stream crossings VERY dangerous! The trail became a stream itself! Next time we\'ll do it in the summer. Good luck to anyone trying it in the heavy rain!
Nov 15, 2009 9:57PM
I am going to hike the Napali coast at the end of November this year. Should I wear my full grain leather backpacking boots with great ankle support or just wear these reef walker shoes that I keep hearing about? Thanks
Nov 18, 2009 8:26AM
Have a permit to hike the trail over Thanksgiving weekend, but I am worried about the rainy forecast. I am hiking with a friend of mine that is relatively new to backcounty camping. How are conditions?
Nov 25, 2009 1:50PM
Solo Hike December 30
Streams permitting, I am headed to Kalalau for a 5-night trip on December 30. I have my permit and am really looking forward to the trip. I plan to hike the full length on day one. Happy New Year.
If someone wants to join me for all or part of the hike in, email me (scotty summacan net).
Also, I am trying to go as light as possible. Pack, tent, light bag, camera, water filter, head-lamp, alcohol stove (maybe).
Can I count on a certain amount of food being available once I get there?
Nov 25, 2009 10:20PM
Hi everybody, I am 20years hiker from Czech republic and I am going to Kalalau trail on chritmas. I would like to ask if it is 2way trail? I think - is it necessary to go back the same way and finally it have 22 miles or how? Thank you so much
Kauai Explorer Staff
Nov 26, 2009 4:46PM
Yes Redana - there is only one trail and you hike the same way out as in.
Nov 29, 2009 3:59PM
SCOTTY : the only food available will be some natural fruit(s) you may be able to find in the Kalalau Valley area. otherwise i think the only other way to obtain food would be to 'swap' for food with other campers or 'locals' (i.e. swap something of yours [book,clothing] for food). of course maybe you will befriend other campers who will share food with you.
Nov 29, 2009 4:05PM
ROBERT DAY : it depends...are you carrying a backpack ? how many pounds ? by 'reef walker' shoes are you referring to 'tabis'(the ones with the felt-like soles) ? i have always worn medium-duty hiking boots on the trail, as i have each time carried a backpack of 25-40 lbs. and need the foot/ankle support that the boots provide.
Nov 29, 2009 11:46PM
Hi. I plan to hike the entire trail (in mid-December) in one day and do a little camping once I reach the beach. Is a tent a necessity, or is sleeping under the stars with just a sleeping bag commonplace? Thanks.
Dec 01, 2009 2:59AM
I keep hearing about Outlaw Pool and Ginger Pool and how people keep getting lost trying to find them. Can anyone give me advice or GPS coordinates for these pools so that I do not end up getting lost in the Valley?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 01, 2009 10:21PM
Hi Rudi - I suggest bringing a tent.
Dec 02, 2009 3:45PM
Hello - thanks for such a great site and comment section! We are planning to hike the Kalalau Trail in about a week. We have a 2-person tent, but it's not free-standing. Do you think this will be an issue setting it up at the end of the trail? Or is there nice solid ground (i.e. not sand) for the stakes in the designated camping areas?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 02, 2009 6:11PM
AJ you should be fine with your non-freestanding tent.
Dec 07, 2009 4:20AM
Great website!! Two of us are planning to do this trail in February. I am wondering if you have any recommendations for where to hike after reaching the camp that is 11 miles up the trail. Are there other trails branching out from there, or nice routes we can do from there?
Cheers,
Erin
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 08, 2009 5:31PM
Erin - there is some great exploring inside Kalalau valley. The DLNR does not maintain the trails because they don't like to hike and work, but you can still find the way to "big pool" or "Ginger pool."
Dec 08, 2009 6:53PM
Hi, my husband and I are going out to hike the trail this Friday-Sunday. We won\'t get getting into Kauai from Honolulu until Friday morning and we have to pick up the permits from the office. The parks department has advised us to camp only half way the first day and then to kalalau beach the next day and all the way out the last day. Would you give the same advice? They said that we don\'t want to get there in the dark. When is sunset, and is it simply too dangerous to walk around and/or set up after dark? We are moderately fast hikers (although we haven\'t done continuous up and down hikes too much) in our late 20s. Thanks!
Dec 09, 2009 1:56PM
We planned to hike the Kalalau trail in Dec 2007, but conditions were too rainy and stormy. Crossing the stream at the 2 mile mark was extremely treacherous then. We have a chance to try again in May 2010. Are the stream crossings usually better at that time of the year?
Dec 09, 2009 2:03PM
Does camping at Kalalau beach become very crowded? Is it obvious where one is supposed to camp?
Dec 09, 2009 8:57PM
ERIN : there are some trails leading back into the Kalalau Valley (they start near the river). At first they are not too hard to follow, but then they become much more 'faint' and it can be easy to lose yourself if you're not being careful. the best thing to do is to talk first to another camper or even a 'local' resident, to give you tips or advice. make sure to bring bug repellent !
Dec 10, 2009 3:33AM
I will be hiking the entire Kalalau Trail in mid-March. I'm a woman in my early 30's in pretty good shape, athletic and coordinated, and will be increasing the difficulty of my training to prepare. I will probably have about a 30 pound pack. Is it reasonable to hike in early one morning and hike out the next day? I may end up getting permits for more days and stay an extra night, but wanted some opinions on hiking back to back days. Also, anyone know the total elevation gain one way? I've read around 2500' through 11 miles - which in comparison to Angels Landing at about 1500' in 2.5 miles doesn't seem all that bad.
Dec 10, 2009 3:34AM
I will be hiking the entire Kalalau Trail in mid-March. I'm a woman in my early 30's in pretty good shape, athletic and coordinated, and will be increasing the difficulty of my training to prepare. I will probably have about a 30 pound pack. Is it reasonable to hike in early one morning and hike out the next day? I may end up getting permits for more days and stay an extra night, but wanted some opinions on hiking back to back days. Also, anyone know the total elevation gain one way? I've read around 2500' through 11 miles - which in comparison to Angels Landing at about 1500' in 2.5 miles doesn't seem all that bad.
Curt
Dec 11, 2009 2:29AM
Aloha Nancy,
Having done the hike a couple of times myself, and planning to return next year for another round trip, and based on your description, I believe you will have no problem making it in, provided you start early in the morning, i.e. while the air is cool and the first two miles are not crowded with tourists. 2500\' soulds about right, but as you can see from the profile (http://www.trimbleoutdoors.com/ViewTrip/51207) there is a lot of up and down stuff which tends to wear on one a bit more than a straight 2500 ft gain.
If you are like me, and you hike in one day and out the next, you will feel cheated, spending all that energy and not taking the full complement of days available to you to enjoy the Valley. 1 day in, 1 day out, and 3 or 4 glorious days is what I\'d recommend. You might also want to shed between 5 and 10 pounds from that pack, believe me the lighter you can make it the more you will enjoy the hike. Water will be plentiful, so no need to carry more than a couple of Nalgen botles and some good purifier method (I use the Steripen. It\'s fast, convenient, and safe). However, my Jet Boil stove is light and works fast too and certainly could double as a water sterilizer. Fuel is available at Kayak Kawai in Hanalei. Ask for Micco or email him at info@kayakkauai.com. Above all, enjoy every minute of the experience! It\'s the trip of a lifetime, but as I\'ve discovered, I betcha can\'t take just one.
Aloha
curt
Dec 11, 2009 2:47AM
Aloha Yiwei and others,
I\'ve found it a lot easier to set up camp in daylight. If you start out from Kee at dawn and keep up a good pace, you should have plenty of light at Kalalau to set up.
There are quite a few camp sites. However, I would suggest not camping directly beneath the cliff face, as cool as that may seem. Rocks have been known to fall during the night as the goats scramble above you and light nylon does not take to well to a large rock falling at 50 miles an hour. Neither does your head.
Enjoy!
Dec 11, 2009 7:40PM
My partner and I completed the trail 1-3 Dec. It was an amazing experience, but not a walk in the park by any means. We were very lucky with the weather which was clear almost the whole three days. I had a slight bout of sunstroke after the first day but we had a day\'s rest before the return journey so I was OK. Kalalau is a truly beautiful place and I would almost go so far as to say that the trail itself was a life-changing experience for me. I will definitely be doing more hiking!
Advice for novice-to-intermediate hikers (like myself): I think if you\'re already finding it very distressing before you get to the halfway point and find that you are not able to bring yourself into a calm and focussed state of mind (I pretty much had a mantra \"It\'s just you and the trail, nothing else matters\"), pause and consider whether you want to continue because it doesn\'t get easier from that point on. We saw one couple turn back before the halfway point, the female partner was becoming increasingly exhausted and upset. The challenge is as much mental as physical (overcoming fear and doubt) but only you know your capabilities, listen to your body.
If you are not fond of heights then you will find the height and proximity to the cliff-edge an additional challenge on this trail. It is narrow and high the majority of the time. Focus on the trail and you\'ll be fine - vertigo will kick in if you keep looking down over the edge of the cliff.
Take a walking stick - we picked up wooden sticks that other hikers had left at the trialhead and found them invaluable. Pack light and low - the most important things are water (we used iodine tablets very successfully), sun protection (I would recommend a hat and plenty of sunblock) and small, frequent snacks to keep your energy levels up.
Start as early in the day as you can - on the way in we didn\'t start until 8.30am and roasted in the sun at the hottest part of the day in the most exposed stretch of the trail. On the way out we started off at 5.30am and had a much, much better experience in the cool of the early morning.
About 3 miles from the end on the way out, at about midday, we met a group of slow-moving, inexperienced-looking hikers who said they were going all the way in. It was achingly hot at that point and they would have had around 7 hours of hiking ahead of them. I hope they were OK.
Keep an eye on the forecast before you go - heavy rain will make a big difference to your experience of the trail, and the level of difficulty and danger. If the forecast is good, give yourself plenty of time to get in and out - I would say 3 days was a comfortable period to complete for a novice or intermediate hiker. Consider breaking journey by camping at Hanakoa or 8-mile.
If you are extremely fit and experienced then you will no doubt find this trial pretty straightforward and be able to make it in and perhaps even out in one day in relative comfort. If you are of average experience and fitness it will be a challenge - a rewarding challenge but one to take seriously.
Dec 12, 2009 5:05PM
NANCE : i agree with Curt, if possible do the inbound hike all in one day, spend as many days as possible camping at Kalalau, then one day out. dont worry about having permits for your whole stay, since it is very rare to have an encounter with any rangers. i've done the hike a few times (most recently about 3 months ago) and if this is your first time then you absolutely must stay as long as possible at the beach before hiking out ! my first hike in 2 years ago, we could only camp 2 nights before we had to hike back out, and i promised myself that the next time we would stay at least 3 nights, and we actually ended up staying 5 nights (which still wasnt enough for me ! although it WAS enough for my girlfriend who isnt as fond of camping as me). regarding the elevation changes, i'm not sure about the 2500' estimate, could be accurate, but the main thing is that there are constant ups and downs along the entire trail, it's almost never flat for more than a few yards. the lighter your pack the better , believe me ! just a few pounds can make a significant difference. while 'training' at home, i would do alot of hills/incline training (with a pack on or a weighted belt or weighted vest,etc) as possible. i dont know where you live and if there are any hilly areas or mountains,etc, but for example instead of doing a long flatter hike i would do shorter hikes/workouts including lots of back-to-back hills/inclines,non-stop. that's how i trained here in Chicago. not alot of hills out here but at a local forest preserve i found one good-size hill (about 120 yards long at maybe a 15-20% incline ?) and would put on my pack or weighted vest and go up/down nonstop for an hour.i think that kind of workout is better prep than a longer flatter hike with the same weight. if possible do as much training outside in hot weather to get your body used to that, since alot of the Kalalau hike will be out in direct sun with temps over 80.
Dec 14, 2009 3:46AM
Curt/Tim: Thanks for the feedback guys. I will at least stay for 2 nights. I'm vacationing on Kauai with other people and have things planned so 2 nights is all I can spare. But if I really love it, I will return in 2 years for a longer journey.
With water, tent, food, flashlight, and some survival essentials I can't imagine my pack weighing less than 20 pounds. I think the pack itself weighs a few pounds. I will try to eliminate where I can but I am going pretty ultralight. I'm not even taking a stove or if I do I'll take a couple ounce stove that burns denatured alcohol.
In terms of training, I live in a flat area too with no good trails so I've had to be creative. I do some long walks but hit a set of switchbacks that climb 20' up a pedestrian overpass. Its boring but is a good workout. And there is a sledding hill near work that I walk up and down to get my legs, feet and hips ready. In another month I'll put 20 pounds of water in my backpack and do a couple hours on the hill as often as I have time for.
Dec 14, 2009 4:54AM
Nancy,
Are you talking about Angels Landing in Zion? If so I\'d say there is a similarity in that there are exposed sections to both hikes and both have drop-offs but I\'d say that is about the only similarity. Angels Landing is well maintained and even has anchored support chains on the most exposed areas. The first two miles or so are even paved. The Kalalau trail is not maintained and there definitely are no support cables or chains to hang onto. The dry heat in Zion is a lot easier to hike in then the high humidity and heat you\'ll find on the trail to Kalalau.
Having done both, I can tell you that the Kalalau trail is much more demanding.
But you sound in good shape and are willing to work hard to be in even better shape and you sound adventuresome...I think you will have the time of your life!!! Just be careful, watch your step, keep your pack light, hydrate and just enjoy yourself. If you can, stay as many days as possibe. I just spent six days in the valley and could have stayed many more. I have reservations already for next year....the valley seems to take hold of you and you will want to return again and again. I saw quite a few hikers come in one day and hike out the next...they missed out on all the wonders of the valley...do try to stay at least two or three nights in the valley...you will glad you did.
I agree with Tim regarding training...hills and more hills, and hike wearing your pack, adding a little bit more weight each hike. I\'m lucky to live in the foothills of the Cascades and I spent a lot of time hiking plus I added biking and running for a little crosstraining. If you are in shape, you should not have a problem hiking all the way to Kalalau. I left at 6:45 am and was in the valley before 2:00 and I stopped a lot to take pictures and soak up the scenery. What is nice,if you begin to tire, you can always stay at Hanakoa...or at the heli landing at about the 8 mike mark (much nicer than Hanakoa)and then hike to the valley the next day.
Good luck. You will LOVE Kalalau (and the hike)
curt
Dec 14, 2009 10:46PM
Hey Tim, sounds like you read my training manual. A few months before I head to Kauai I put on a 30 lb pack and do a double climb up Maryland Heights at Harper's Ferry, WV. Taking two full circuits of the trail is roughly equivalent to the distance and elevation changes of the Kalalau trail so I can judge when I'm in good enough shape to handle Kauai. Kalalau-bound DC-area hikers may want to consider taking a shot at this also.
Aloha
Dec 14, 2009 11:58PM
Is it possible to ask to permit online? If it is, where?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 15, 2009 5:30PM
RAD - go to http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/camping/kauai.cfm and apply there.
Dec 15, 2009 6:05PM
Busconi,
Yes in Zion. I actually found the final 500ft on the exposed unpaved trail climbing rocks to be easier than the switchbacks on cement and walters wiggles. I did several other hikes the same day so 10-12 miles of hiking with a total of 5000ft of elevation with limited training prior to gives me the confidence with 3 months of solid training I will be in good shape. That being said, I fully intend that Kalalau will kick my butt!
And I'm glad the cables aren't on the trail. They shouldn't be on the Zion trail either.
Good idea on the cross training - I may add some sprints on the treadmill on an incline.
Any good suggestions of shoes/boots? I am not a fan of hiking boots so I would like to wear a pair of lightweight waterproof hiking shoes. Since my pack will be around 20 pounds I have read a light pack means I could go with the lightweight shoe. Thoughts?
Dec 17, 2009 12:25AM
take a hammock ! ! !
and if you can, a light weight chair to relax in. something that will get you off the ground. and lots of good food to munch on. if you can walk 12 miles with a 20 lb pack on, you'll be fine. its so beautiful that you'll get a great spurt of energy and make it fine. big clunky hiking shoes are not what you want. some waterproof light weight running shoes (salamon). don't take any extra clothes. sleep with the hammock around you to keep warm. walking poles are a great advantage to take. get used to hearing your own heart beat and relaxing. some light weight flip flops are all you need once your there. a head light is needed too. watch for the large toads near the water fall. figure out some sort of comfortable pillow to use and a nice air matress (thermarest NEO) and a very light weight cloths line to dry stuff out (30 feet).you'll get muddy ankles, so get some Mont Bell Stretch gaiters and wear short light socks.
Dec 17, 2009 12:58AM
Nancy, I hiked Kalalau 2x, both times wearing hiking boots. The first time in completely dry weather and the second time in total mud and rain. My feet slipped in both types of weather, on the crumbly dry earth and on they slid around on the mud-one time I went almost straight downhill as the portion right before mile 6 was washed out. Very scary. Boots are heavier, especially with a few lbs of mud caked on them, but for me personally, I felt more comfortable having the ankle support over hiking shoes. I could easily see where a person would blow an ankle in shoes on the almost always uneven ground. I did many other day hikes on Kauai in hiking shoes, but still prefer the boots. I think it really boils down to personal preference. I changed into water sandals for the river crossings as I'm not good on rock hopping with a large pack.
One note...really watch the trail when you are by the mile 8 mark, it takes a turn behind a large boulder but it looks like it continues on the side of a cliff. The two people in front of us continued on the cliff face, we were following them, but when we realized it was wrong, we waved them back. The wrong path is literally on the side of the cliff and isn't a trail. Kalalau Bill put a rock pile on the incorrect trail to indicate wrong path, but of course, we didn't see that until we turned around. I believe someone else mentioned this same thing earilier in this blog.
Dec 17, 2009 1:51AM
Hello Nancy,
I hiked with my lightweight Montrail Hardrock trail running shoes and my feet thanked me!!! No need for heavy boots unless you plan on carrying a heavy load or you just need extra support. I suggest you wear what is comfortable for you but be sure whatever you select is well broken in. You will see all kinds of footwear on the trail, particularly the first two miles.. . everything from flip-flops and bare feet to shiny new, just out of the box hiking boots. It\'s is almost humorous to see what people select to hike in. At the three major stream crossings I just took my shoes off and waded across barefoot rather than boulder-hopping and risking a fall.
Feel free to e-mail if you like...I\'d be happy to answer any questions you might have. I just love talking about Kalalau.
busconi@hotmail.com
busconi
Dec 18, 2009 12:33PM
Both times I\'ve hiked into Kalalau I wore Chaco sandals and low socks. They have good treads for dealing with mud and rock and you can just wade across streams and not waste time changing shoes or boots. They could be a lot easier to adjust, but once they are, they remain tight. However, the Chacos are not real comfortable, so next year I will probably be going with the Keens Arroyo II(http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3650774). I\'ve hiked in similar Keens here at home and found them to be a lot easier on my feet than the Chacos. Downside of course is that sandals just don\'t give much ankle support compared to boots. I would stay away from Solomons and Tevas as I\'ve heard from the Kalalau locals that they end up in shreds pretty quickly.
Aloha
Dec 19, 2009 3:35PM
Aloha,
I have a hard time to find out where I can buy fuel for my stove on Kauai. One store told me they won't get MSR IsoPro until next spring. Can anybody recommend a place on Kauai where I will definitely get Isopropane?
I will need the name, address, phone and email./
Thanks in advance!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Dec 19, 2009 7:25PM
Hi Boris the only stores I know are Kayak Kauai and Peddle and Paddle in Hanalei town. Canister fuel systems are hard to find and wasteful. Personally I recommend MSR multi-fuel stoves with reusable canisters.
Dec 20, 2009 9:23PM
My fiance and i are heading back to do Kalalau for a 2nd time, this time for our honeymoon. On our first trip, we didn\'t have any luck finding our way back to any of the falls, pools, or the \"library\" in the valley. I guess we didn\'t get to socializing with the right people. Are there any clues online or elsewhere that could guide us on our 2nd try?
Dec 21, 2009 2:05AM
Thanx for a great site. An experienced hiking buddy and I plan on hiking to Kalalau in the second week of january. I realize this is short notice, but will try to secure permits anyway. My question is, if I can\'t secure permits, I plan on going anyway, will I get in any serious trouble?
I want to respectfully enjoy kauai\'s majesty, so I don\'t feel like letting a lifetime experience pass me by if I can\'t get a permit. Is there any excuse/story that might work with an angry ranger? Permit office was closed or the like, or perhaps having the application form filled out with check but not yet granted? Thanx...
Dec 22, 2009 1:21AM
Hi again, and thanks for the tips about hikes in the valley. Is there a specific topographic map for this valley and if so, what is the number? Are Ginger Pool and Big Pool marked on the map? Are any of the other trails or routes marked on a map?
Thanks again :-) I am looking very forward to arriving on Kauai!!
Dec 22, 2009 1:01PM
Merlin-
If you read the posts here you'll see the ranger's very rarely check for permits. The chance they ask for a permit are very slim. You can email Pearl at DLNR. see posts for her email. You might even get one Lihue when you come to Kauai. it's a very serious hike. Read all posts listed here to prepare your self. Merry Christmas.
Dec 25, 2009 7:27PM
Hey I was wondering if there is a bus or shuttle that takes you from the airport to the start of the trail or close to it. between dec 29th and jan 22nd when do u think the best time is to go? Weather wise and crowds. thanks
Dec 27, 2009 2:59PM
Visited Kauai several years back, hoping to visit again to go hiking. Great comments on here, but I don't see any mention of "best time" of the year to take the hike so that we can plan ahead.
Dec 27, 2009 11:57PM
ANDY : well, this question of yours may qualify as one of those questions which has 'no one right answer' . i've hiked to Kalalau twice, most recently last September. the previous trip was in early September 08. we ( my girlfriend and i ) picked the first week of Sep. because we figured that by that time all of the school-age kids/teens would be back home on the mainland for school to start, so it wouldnt be as crowded (both the trail and the beach) and so hopefully fewer tourists on the island would mean there wouldnt be as many of those annoying helicopters buzzing overhead all day long. and also we figured that we would be there early enough before the fall season so that we would hopefully avoid the threat of serious rainy weather, which could make the hike even more risky/dangerous than it already was ! and along the same line, we hoped that by avoiding stronger fall/winter weather, the surf at Kalalau would be relatively calm for our stay, since we had plans to take a boat trip back to Kee Beach instead of hiking out, and the boat can only pickup if the surf is calm enough;our boat guy told us he didnt do dropoffs/pickups past September every year. we knew we would have to haul our supplies/packs out to the boat, enclosed inside garbage bags. this is not easy or safe to do unless the waves are below just a few feet. and another thing related to the weather, we were able to make our camp each year inside one of the seacaves located a little past the big waterfall on the beach. but these caves become 'vacant' around October or so due to the higher sea levels. we really liked staying in the seacave each year. they're kind of 'private', and just kinda neat. anyway,summing up, my vote goes to ...... the first week of September, right after the Labor Day holiday. enjoy !
kevyn
Dec 28, 2009 10:11PM
Hooray! My 20 year old son just agreed to hike Kalalau with me! I hiked it 3 times in the 1980\'s and have dreamed of it daily since. Now I am 57 and am going to train to hike it again! I can\'t wait and am so excited to have another chance to do this before I am too old! Lol, maybe I already am- we\'ll see. I have started training today and couldn\'t be more excited.
All of the updates, training advise, and gear suggestions are so wonderful. Thank you for this great wedsite.
Kevyn
Dec 29, 2009 1:43AM
I have a question about if picking up the permit, is there an alternative way of having it picked up if it isn't enough time to mail the permit but the office will be closed when we are suppose to be there to start hiking. Is there a courier service on Kauii who can pick up permits? Thanks
Dec 30, 2009 7:32PM
What time does the sun rise and set in mid-February?
Dec 31, 2009 1:31AM
I hiked the trail with my son who had then just only turned 5 (!) and it was awesome, hard but awesomely rewarding. since we had wasted a lot of time picking up the permit, getting food, catching a bus up north and hitchhiking too kee beach we werent on the trail until 1:30, but we made it past the first river crossing to around mile 4 until we had to set up camp alongside the way shortly before nightfall. i had a permit for the first campground but we were just too late and too slow. what happens in a situation like this and your found by a ranger? does anyone know? im not a us citizen and i fear not being let in anymore.
that night we werent to only ones looking for a place where there was enough space next to the trail for an overnight stay and so our little area filled up. an austrian couple gave us heads up for the rest of the hike and an exhausted navy dude hated life since there werent any thick enough trees to support his hammock and he didnt bring a tent. and since the mud wasnt thick enough as it was it started pooring down and it got real cold (just last week we had -4F were i live, im not the freezing person usually). after being woken up by another real late hiker i noticed that the poor man was freezing to death in shorts and his poncho so i offered him the little space there was left in my little tent which he gladly took (must have been dying already). eventually my tent couldnt take the rain anymore and it started getting coaked inside, i kept getting dripped on the face and that made sleeping real hard so we ended up talking most of the night. that was the craziest night of my life so far. next day we packed up and i was ready to head back out since i thought the trail must have gotten so muddy it coundnt possible be fun to go on. i got persuaded otherwise by some fruit that grew just some meters further and the fact i would feel miserable if i gave up just yet. we just kept going and going and going. i was dead tired at some point, my son was holding up real good, he also didnt have to carry anything. he was just a bit fed up with having to walk that far and when we would finally be there, but took great interest in the colorful (blue and gold) big spiders he found. we kept getting past by faster hikers and looked at by everyone, but not in a judgemental way. ppl really all seemed very nice in a hippyish kind of way. i have to add it was mid winter, end of january, sunrise was around 6-7 and pitchdark again by 6:30, so it was safer finding a place to sleep from around 5:30 on. we met some men how gave my newly found hiking companion messages for the long term residents at the last campground (find the man with the long beard and the stick...) and found some little know campgrounds along the way. i cought a little fish with my waterpouch, my son fell in a pool and my feet and legs were muddy beyond recognition. we both wore open hiking sandals and i was actually very happy with them even though the werent only slippery on the outside between the mud and the sole but also between my foot and the inner layer, but i didnt have to worry about getting them wet and there were many streams to cross and some pretty big puddles. i had no change of clothes for me since between there and back my son had gone though all of his and mine, he just loved playing around water till he fell in (he knew how to swim and it was never deep or fast currents, where he landed at least). the worst parts by far where the narrow parts around mile 7 with horrifiying winds blowing around the corners and the last part down to the last rivercossing before the campground, because of the wind blowing up and getting all the tiny gravel pieces into your eyes and it sooo slippery and crumbly even when dry. we made it to the last waterfall in 1.5 days straight hiking and i was so tired and so happy when i did. we had to leave the next day at noon, because i had a plane to catch, no car so i had to allow extra time to hitchhike and got tight on food. i didnt want my boy to go hungry even though i knew i could last some days. the sunset was soooo fantastic but i missed half, because my tent needed setting up before nightfall, my flashlight wasnt any good. this campground provided a good choice of trees for my buddies hammock and i got to put my leaky tent under the hammock under the tarp and therefore also stayed dry. i dont recommend sleeping on the ground there much, because its full of nasty rocks and my cushoning consisted only of a towel and my access body fat. the waterfall at the end of the hike is very recommendable for a very cold though refreshing shower (watch out for goat above they might kick some rocks loose, you dont want to be there when that happens). dont plan on sleeping in the caves in winter, the waves will go all the way in and theres no other way out when that happens, you will get crushed. the way out seemed so much shorter, i donated a pack of sweets to one of the old permantent residents and by next morning we were back at kee beach, lend my old treebranch hiking stick to a middle aged female hiker with knee problems the last mile and got a ride to the bus stop in return.
i have very fond memories of the hike, but the best one is that i can do it, if i just dont give up and push myself just a bit further. and about my son, i was told by everyone that its totally imposible and insane, but it was all good. hes in a better condition then me, his step is as secure as a mountain goat and the liked the adventure. hes he was the only kid in there (the next youngest was 15 year old girl) and at that time there was only one other woman between roughly 10 more men there. it rained every night, but the days were very nice, not too hot but good. i returned home with 30 moskito bited on just my left leg although i had regularily applied army tested repellant and i had a farmers tan that - combined with the mud that didnt come of until 10 showers later - made me look almost hawaiian. just dont bring a gramm too much, plenty of food, a water pouch per person, light good quality camping gear and more time that me to enjoy the peace in paradise.
Dec 31, 2009 6:50PM
Response to Jon. Sunrise and sunset on Kauai on February 15 is 7:09 AM and 6:34 PM
We hiked the last week of January in 2009 and were forced to camp and then turn back around miles 5/6 due to rain then extremely high water in one of the streams. This year we will be there 2-1 to 2-4 for another attempt. We have heard that it has been very dry for the most part other than some early December storms. Can anyone confirm the present trail conditions from the last week or so or later January if you read this mid-month? Thanks. We are going to make it this time!!!!!
For anyone on the trail that week, we will be the slowest moving couple you pass. Please Say HI.
Jan 02, 2010 12:19PM
We are planning to hike the trail in August 2010. How can we find out what days the trail will be closed for the goat hunt before we make our travel plans?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 02, 2010 6:32PM
Chris - you'll have to contact the DLNR for that info.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 02, 2010 6:34PM
Guy and Karen - this year has been quite dry due to an El Nino pattern. That said, it will always be tough and slippery. Have fun.
Jan 03, 2010 10:09PM
i read on another kauai forum that this lady "bobo" who used to be part of the taylor hippie camp swam/still swims all the way from ha'ena or ke'e beach to kalalau beach. i imagine this is fairly rare and difficult, though possible for a good swimmer in summer with calm waters. is this so and how long would it take? i know i can only swim efficiently for 2 hours without a wetsuit before i cool down too much and with the current i dont know how long the 7 mile trip would take with fins or without. im also worried about shark. although i know they usually wont attack, are their any in that area?
is their any information on ppl doing this or maps of currents?
please, dont think im totally nuts, i just find the idea very interesting and am trying to gather info. thanks very much in advance for providing such!
Jan 04, 2010 12:49AM
TO KEVYN : hey , you should 'keep us posted' as to the progress of your training...i assume you are doing the hike this summer ? that would give you about 6 months which is a very good amount of time . and of course you must give us a 'trip report' as soon as you get back home ! Enjoy !
Jan 04, 2010 4:41AM
Jan 3. Just got back from the Kalalau round trip in one day. Started 6am with a headlight (till the sunrise around 7am) and returned back by 5pm. Doable and enjoyable. The views are awesome. ~5 hours each way with one hour on the Kalalau beach. The difficulty is comparable to the Rim-to-Rim of the Grand Canyon in one day. Thanks for the great website!
Jan 04, 2010 3:26PM
My boyfriend and I are planning a 5 night stay in April. I would like to hear from those of you who have stayed multiple nights what you packed to eat during your stay. We will definitely be doing some dehydrated meals, but I\'m looking for other creative suggestions.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 05, 2010 7:50AM
Yah Misha - nice work.
Jan 05, 2010 8:28PM
Aloha, we're heading to Kauai next week and wanted to hike the Kalalau Trail. We think we can do it in a day, but want to be prepared just incase it takes us longer. Do we need to take a tent or would some type of plastic sheet suffice for overnight? Mahalo
Jan 07, 2010 1:44AM
I plan to hike the Kalalau, June 24-28th, 2010 as part of my best friends wedding week. I am just starting my training for the hike and have had little luck with research seeking a training schedule. (kinda looking for something similar to the various marathon training schedules that are out there) Wondering if anyone has any feedback and/or suggested websites. Much thanks - Cheers.
Jan 07, 2010 2:02AM
Brenda, If you're doing the hike to Kalalau Beach in January, you WILL need a tent due to the greater potential of rain and cooler weather. Also I would recommend trying to go all the way to Kalalau Beach in one day if you can as Hanakoa campground is not very nice while Kalalau beach is VERY nice. And besides, then you'll have more time at Kalalau to explore. You should also plan on staying at least 2 nights, preferrably more because you will want at least one day to recuperate from the hike in, then there is so much to explore up the valley and around the beach. This isn't just a hike to check off of your list, it's an experience to be savored once you arrive at the beach. It really is a beautiful place. Spend some time there, you'll be glad you did.
Jan 07, 2010 5:30PM
Tammy,
we used a dehydrator and made our own dehydrated food - most of it from "lipsmackin' vegetarian backpackin' " and "lipsmackin' backpackin' ", we decided which recipes we were most interested in and then we tried them out at home first to see if we really liked them and so on, we also made our own "raw crackers", then we found some single packs of prepackaged Hummus that we put on the crackers. We brought Luna bars to eat on the trail on our way out and of course some nuts and dried fruits. For a sweet treat I made some chocolate-coconut maccaroons (also in the dehydrator) that were delicous and satisfied my chocolate cravings and they didn't melt, unlike our chocolate covered raisins... We also took EmergenC's to drink, both for hydrating purposes and in case the water tasted a little off. Hope this helps and gives you some more ideas than you already have. :)
Jan 07, 2010 7:26PM
Hi all,
So excited about doing this trail. My fiance and I will be on honeymoon in Kauai in May and we\'ve made this a priority. We were initially hoping to do the full trail in 1 day and whilst we\'re fit enough we think that might be a pity as the beach is so beautiful it is a must to stay at least a night.
Just a few questions:
What is typical weather in May? Is this usually a good time?
We are staying in Hanalei, how far is this from the start of the trail?
Can anyone recommend a cab company to take us to the start?
And happy new year to everyone!
Sharyn (South Africa)
Jan 07, 2010 9:38PM
AMY : regarding training for the hike, it's great that you are starting now,several months in advance ! so many people just kind of 'wing it' w/out any or enough prep/training, and they usually pay the price for it ! in your post, you didnt mention about your current state of fitness/health, or whether or not you will be wearing a backpack during the hike. well, assuming you will be wearing a pack, i suggest you go 'hiking' wherever you live, with a pack on, a few times a week. if you havent worn a pack in awhile (or ever), i would start out with around half of what you anticipate carrying on the actual hike. you need to get your body (muscles,joints,ligaments,etc) used to supporting a pack,for several hours. ideally,you would do your training hikes outside in a hilly environment, but if that isnt possible, then a treadmill would work too (but dont be like everyone i see at the gym who crank up the incline level real high but hold on the whole time to the front handgrips ! cheaters ! ). you eventually should work up to doing the majority of your training hikes on big hills (or inclines on treadmill). the entire Kalalau Trail hike is up/down/up/down, never flat ! and if you live in a warmer climate, try to do a significant amount of hiking out in the hot sun (if possible) so your body gets used to serious physical exertion in the heat. big big differerence between several hours of hilly hiking (carrying a heavy pack) indoors at 70,low humidity, versus outdoors in a jungle environment. also during your training hikes try to wear the same footwear that you will be wearing on the big day. any other questions,email me at tsx500@yahoo.com
Jan 08, 2010 1:55AM
Amy, my wife and I did the Kalalau trail (11 miles each way) twice in the past 3 years (we\'re both in our mid 50\'s). We trained for about 4 months before going by doing an 8 mile hike in our area of Northern California, once a week. These training hikes included four hills with a total elevation climb of around 900 feet. The hills really make all the difference in the world. This would take us around 2 hours and 50 minutes to complete. Most of the time we used a small day pack and only used our fully loaded backpacks once, two weeks before going to Kauai as a final test. While this elevation climb is nothing near the total elevation climb of the Kalalau trail, this seemed to work for us. Of course your age and prior physical condition makes a big difference too, so if what I\'ve outlined above is less than what you\'re presently doing, then just continue doing what you\'re already doing and you should be fine. I hope this helps.
Jan 09, 2010 1:44AM
Amy, when I was "training" for Kalalau, I did alot of strength training with free weights-arms, legs, everything, and aerobic training (mainly running). I really like Gilad's 'Total Body Scuplt' on FIT tv and he's based in Hawaii-excellent motivation. I tried to train every day. Since I live in the flat plains area without hills, it was difficult to do practice hikes, but I tried to do walks with my pack filled with the amount of weight I was planning on carrying. It looked a bit weird in my subarban neighborhood, but I didn't care. ;) Kalalau was awesome! I'm going back someday, just a matter of time and money to get there.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 10, 2010 6:11PM
Lucia - I personally know Bobo and have swam to Kalalau myself. There are no general rules for the swim - currents always change and many times you're swimming against the current. Yes there are sharks. You need to do something like this with experienced locals.
Jan 11, 2010 4:47PM
Do you need a permit to just hike the trail to the waterfall 4 miles in? We are coming on the 29th of this month - can\'t wait! Great website guys.
Jan 11, 2010 5:50PM
Anette, Thanks for your suggestions on food. I ordered the "Lipsmackin Backpackin" as well as "Trail Foods" and we are very excited to try them out. I also really liked your idea about the Emergen C packets. Thanks again.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 11, 2010 10:50PM
Hi Bernie - no permits are required for the day-hike to Hanakapiai valley and falls.
Jan 12, 2010 2:21PM
What is the distance between water sources along the trail?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 12, 2010 4:43PM
Tammy - good question. There are streams at Hanakapiai (2 miles), Hoolulu (4), Wai?ahuakua (5), Hanakoa (6), Wai?kuauhoe (8), 9.5 miles and finally at Kalalau valley. I always pump VS carry.
Jan 12, 2010 5:24PM
SHARYN : its about 15-20 min. drive from Hanalei to the end of the road/start of trail. i personally dont know about a cab company (never had to use one). if possible you must stay at the Kalalau beach ... the longer the better ! good luck. be prepared .
Jan 13, 2010 2:20AM
CHRIS, The goat hunt at Kalalau this year is August 26 - 29, 2010 according to Pearl at the Lihue DLNR office. The Kalalau trail will be closed from Hanakapi\'ai beach through to Kalalau beach during that time. This closure does not affect day hikes to Hanakapi\'ai or the falls.
Jan 13, 2010 4:16PM
i have heard about outfitters that will either drop gear for you at Kalalau and/or pick it up so you don't have to pack it out...is that true, and if so, do you have contact info?
Jan 15, 2010 10:29PM
Mahalo Nui Loa to everyone who contributed to the plethora of valuable information on the Kalalau Trail. If I have one addiction it is research, and starting with the comments in 2007, I have now finished the last posting. My Husband and I moved to Honolulu from Colorado last May, and this May we are taking on the challenge of this trail. In gratitude for all the advice given for preparation of the hike, as a personal trainer and sports nutritionist, I would like to contribute some important information. It may be a lot to read, but if it helps even one person I have not wasted my time.
WATER: There seem to be many inquires on the amount of water needed. The real questions to answer are how much and when to drink it. Besides keeping your system in balance, the basic goal of water and fluid intake is avoid dehydration. When heat or intensity of exercise lead to profuse sweating, you need to drink early and frequently. A systematic approach is to drink at least 1 pint of water 2 hours before the hike, and during the hike drink at 10-30 minute intervals. DO NOT WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE THIRSTY. Thirst is triggered at about 1 percent dehydration ? so by the time you are thirsty, your body is beginning to dehydrate. In hot and humid environments, sweat rate loss can exceed 2 liters per hour. Also, larger volumes of water tend to empty from the stomach and are absorbed into the bloodstream more rapidly than small volumes ? so chugging is preferred over sipping as long as it does not cause stomach discomfort. If you drink water frequently, you should not have any stomach discomfort. Salt intake is also very important. A little O.J. with a pinch of salt mixed with your water is an excellent natural approach for electrolyte replacement. But if you don?t want to carry more liquids or take salt tabs, pack salty pretzels and have them easily accessible to munch on when the sweat gets heavy. So take your water filters and purifying tabs and keep your body hydrated. Be wise with choosing the water you drink and bath in. Leptospirosis is a relatively rare bacterial infection in humans, but you might want to read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leptospirosis.
Nutrients: I?ll keep it basic by telling you that in addition to water, your body needs carbohydrates (with some protein and fat) during intense exercise and quality protein afterward (your camp meal) for recovery. Your muscles and brain will thank you. Choose complex carbs (whole grains, fruit) over simple carbs (sugar and syrupy stuff). Simple sugars will give you a boost, but will cause you to crash if you don?t include complex carbs. Choose bars with nuts to add some protein and fat. Freeze dried fish or jerky upsets my stomach so I avoid them, but if it works for you great! A great source of protein are the 3oz vacuum sealed pouches of tuna or salmon (found in any supermarket) ? at camp, add either brown rice or pasta with a prepared dried soup and you?ve got a great meal. If you catch a fresh fish, that?s even better! The veggie version ? add chick peas. Tasty Bite brand has a pre-cooked 8oz foil pack seasoned with garlic, ginger and spices ? it is really good! There are a great selection of dried soups in cups in most grocery and health food stores ? much cheaper than the gourmet high-priced packs you?ll find in camping supply stores. If you have access to Safeway, try the 1.8oz cup of Safeway?s Eating Right brand. Before a backpack you can empty the contents of the cup in a snack size zip-lock. At camp just put it in your bowl and add boiling water. Also, a word of caution on alcohol ? it will dehydrate your body. So don?t celebrate too much if you intend to hike out the next morning.
That covers the most important stuff. Here is the phone number I called to see if my dates were available 808-274-3444. A woman answered almost immediately (possibly Pearl, of whom a few have commented), and informed me of the number of permits currently available for my dates. She said as soon as the DLNR receives our application (get one on-line) and fee, our dates would be reserved, first come first serve. At the time I called (2 days ago) there were 30 permits open. The offices are only open from 8AM to 3PM and Hawaii now has furlough Friday every other week for state employees. They require proof of ID. My husband picked up ours at the Honolulu office of the DLNR with a photo copy of my ID; so you could ask if they would mail the permit to you if you include a copy of your ID with your application and self addressed return envelope. Don?t go without a permit. If anything, it may help to lessen the impact on the trail.
All the training suggestions provided are sound. I would add a rowing machine in your cross training ? if you can take it outdoors and on the water, paddle and bike. I?d like to add my congratulations to Jen and Jim! kudos to Jim for planning a very special place to propose ? no wonder he was smiling so much in Jen?s video (see Jen 7/12/09). When we lived in Arizona, my husband proposed to me when we took a lunch break while rock climbing ? actually he proposed to me and my dog, because when we started dating I told him the two of us were a package deal! (she wore her ring on her collar.) There was only one comment I read that I could have done without. I won?t give this person the satisfaction of recognition, but will reply by saying that nature often provides its beauty with a price. If we are gentle with nature and respect her boundaries she will reward us tremendously. Same goes for people. Be prepared and don?t feel you need to compete on a hike, listen to your body, and as mentioned in a previous comment (Lee 12/11/09): Any challenge is as much mental than physical. Oh, and always take a first kit - include some antihistamine tablets just in case if you have an allergic reaction to a bug bite.
Hau'oli Makahiki Hou!!
Jan 16, 2010 3:33PM
Is there an outdoor retailer that sells jetboil fuel on kauai? My group will be camping Kalalau beach in April and i generally cook with a jetboil stove. I was wondering if the fuel was available on the island or if i shall opt for other means of heating dinner...
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 18, 2010 5:55PM
Brian - Peddle and Paddle and Kayak Kauai both sell compressed fuel canisters.
Jan 18, 2010 10:25PM
Interested in hiking the Kalalau Trail sometime this spring 2010.
My question is: Is it safe to be travelling solo as a mature woman? And if not in this day and age? do you know of a resorce that might hook me up with like minded fellow travellers?
I\'m not big on organized groups, also not interested in spending a lot of money. I am an experienced hiker/backpacker/ mountaineer and very fit.
Been there -done that. Currently in training for climbing Mt. Ranier in 2010.
Thanks!
Kristy
Great site by the way...
Jan 19, 2010 11:10PM
I am also interested in the solo hiking question posted by Kristy. Would you say hiking Kalalau is safe for an experienced female solo?
I'm aware February is rainy and the trail may be quite muddy with flooding but just how narrow are the cliff areas?
I'm also curious about wildlife as I'll be packing food.
Thanks too for such a great and informative website!
DC
Jan 20, 2010 2:26AM
Kristy,
I can only speak from the times I've been on the trail, but I only found really friendly people...people who love to hike and explore, people from all over the world. And almost anyone of them wouldn't have minded if I tagged along with them. There always seems to be people hiking in during the day and if you weren't liking the solo adventure I would bet my bottom dollar that someone would be happy to have you join them.
When I hiked in last October there was a 75 year old woman who hiked in all on her own, stayed three days and hiked out...amazing lady. She's been doing it for years.
I hear occasionally there is a jackpot or two on the trail but I think that is a rarity. Give them wide berth and you should be fine.
And I live in the Northwest so if you can handle Mt. Rainier, you should be able to handle Kalalau.
Have fun.
Jan 20, 2010 12:52PM
Hi again, thanks for the tips and for a great forum. I was wondering if anyone can give me advice on what food i can take for an overnight trip - my fiance and i are hiking really light as we're only staying one night at Kalalau and then hiking back so we won't be carrying any fuel canistars or cooking equipment. I was wondering how dehydrated food works? Otherwise we'll resort to fruit, chocolate bars and perhaps packaged tuna and cold pasta. I was also wondering whether sleeping in a hammock in May is a good idea - is it cold and are their biting insects?
Jan 20, 2010 10:09PM
Can anyone recommend a good place to park and then ideas on how to get to the trailhead & back to car from there? Cheers
Jan 21, 2010 4:08PM
I've been calling the permit office (808) 274-3444 to find out about availability. There has been no answer for 2 days. There isn't a recording or an answering machine either. Is there any other way to get in touch with them?
Jan 21, 2010 4:09PM
KRISTY : in my opinion, you have nothing to worry about going alone. i've done the trail a few times during the last 3 years w/my girlfriend, and we camped at the beach each time for several nites. you sound experienced and fit enough to be able to handle any 'issues' along the trail. personally i've never encountered (or heard of anyone else encountering) anyone 'dangerous' along the trail or in the Kalalau valley. of course there are 'weirdos' everywhere , but i think you will be totally safe during your hike.
Jan 21, 2010 11:41PM
I'm staying on Kauai for 5 days, and during those 5 days, I want to take 2 days to hike the Kalalau Trail (camp 1 night). I was hesitating choosing 2 days and buying permits in advance (weather could be bad for those days).
Is it better to purchase them in person or take my chances, and purchase them in advance on specific days?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 22, 2010 4:21PM
Hi Marc - I suggest securing your permits in advance and staying more than 1 night at Kalalau. Rangers will allow some flexibility on your dates.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 22, 2010 4:23PM
RBIS - You can find the permit application here: http://www.hawaiistateparks.org/camping/kauai.cfm Fill it out and mail to the Lihue district office: Division of State Parks 3060 Eiwa Street, Room 306 Lihue, Hawai?i 96766 Include a self addressed, stamped envelope and they will mail the permits back to you. Cost is $10/night/person for camping a Kalalau.
Jan 22, 2010 5:42PM
I'll be doing the trail next Tuesday and Wednesday and CANNOT wait. Thanks so much for this site and all the invaluable advice. How does the trail look these days?
Jan 22, 2010 8:04PM
My husband and I will be hiking the trail early in march. Wondering what the conditions are normally like at that time (want to prepare for worst case scenerio)and wondering about the flash flooding. Is there any warning signs before a flash flood?
Jan 22, 2010 11:42PM
I sent a post earlier too. I read someone's story about the trail and his experience. The bit I'm concerned about is he said at one point the trail is less than a foot wide and at a 40 degree angle, is it true. He said there is also rampant theft and meth addicts on the trail (sounds a little unreal to me). Lastly, I've also heard if it's raining don't even bother trying. In the meantime, I'll stop reading the stories (silly internet)
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 23, 2010 12:23AM
Hi Nicole - I'm sorry you are concerned, perhaps my own personal experience will help you. Nobody has ever fallen off the narrow part of the trail. There is far more theft and meth away from the trail and in cities across the globe. I would not let rain stop me from hiking - unless its torrential and flooding.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 23, 2010 12:25AM
Nicole - it can flood any time of year. Heavy rain, dark clouds, and brown river water indicate flooding may occur.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 23, 2010 12:26AM
Trail is epic right now - it's been a dry winter.
Jan 26, 2010 12:38AM
Thanks so much for your replies. I'm very glad to hear that conditions may be okay. Rain never bothers me, just wanted to know the signs to watch for. Thanks for mentioning the brown river water, I hadn't thought of that. And a special thanks for helping me with my nerves about the narrow part of the trail. Now I just have to bribe the weather gods for 'non-flooding' conditions the first week of March. Wish me luck. Warmest Regards, Nicole
Jan 27, 2010 7:46AM
Just came out. Definately should check the weather,a dry day or two befoe hitting the trail make things MUCH less stressfull both in and out. EVERYONE I met on the trail and who lived in the Valley was so cool and so friendly I didn't EVER want to leave. Unfortunately reality calls and I return. The trail is long and hard but it's worth every step. Aloha
Jan 28, 2010 1:31AM
Brad, are there any trees at Kalalau beach big enough to support a hammock? Possibly a two person hammock? Also did u leave your car at kee beach over night? If you didnt, how did you get to kee beach? I\'ve read that kee beach isnt the safest place to leave vehicles over night for extended periods. Glad you had a great trip! Im planning one to kauai this year. I cant wait!
Jan 28, 2010 2:38PM
Hey,
we are planning to hike the Kalalautrail at the beginning of February. Due to our late arrival time on Lihue (Thursday 10.00 pm) we will get the permit not before Monday morning a 8.00 a.m. Now we have planned to start the trail on Monday up to Hanakoa Valley, next day up to Kakalau Beach and the third day back to Kee Beach.
I read in some reports, that hikers sometimes trapped in the trail due to heavy rain. Our plain to Hilo is leaving just one day later in the evening.
What do you think about our plans and could we take the risk an hike the full trail?
Best regards from Germany
P.s. Great Hoempage! Most exploratory page i have found...
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 28, 2010 5:55PM
Brent - there are plenty of trees at Kalalau. Leave your car at YMCA Camp Naue for $5 / night and you'll have peace of mind that your stuff is safe.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 28, 2010 5:58PM
Hi Chris - did you try calling the permit office? It would be best to stay in Haena and get an early start on the hike. It's so lame that you have to get permits in Lihue and not at the trailhead.
Jan 28, 2010 9:28PM
We will be in Maui for a week of spring break and are considering hopping over to Kauai to hike the Napali Coast. We have hiked the first two miles but would like to go further this time. It will be myself, my husband, and 9 year old daughter. Is there a Zodiac Shuttle service that we could use for our return?
Jan 29, 2010 2:36AM
So I'm planning on doing the Kalalau Trail with some friends in late May. If we go at a steady walking pace how many days would it take to reach the Kalalau beach and back? Also how is the weather at that time of year? Thank you!
Jan 29, 2010 3:20AM
CHRIS : sounds to me like you arent leaving yourself much room for error with that tight schedule. worst case scenario , you arrive back at Kee Thursday morning sometime,instead of late Wednesday as planned, and still have enough time (i assume) to get to your plane on-time. i believe early Feb. is prone to rain, but i dont know the current conditions there now so who knows... it is definitely possible (but not probable) that you could get delayed for awhile , waiting out a swollen stream. like i said above, it sounds like you have just a little bit of 'insurance' just in case you do get held up for a few hours. by the way, i've heard that camping at Hanakoa may be tough due to tons of mosquitoes/bugs in that area (although i've never personally camped there, just hiked thru it). the camping is better around mile 8.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 29, 2010 5:58PM
Hi Suzanne - there are no shuttles to / from Kalalau, plus this is high surf season. I recommend hiking to the falls (8 miles RT).
Jan 29, 2010 11:34PM
Hello again,
I've read through some previous posts and have decided to get some trekking poles for the trail. Do you think $40 ones are good enough, or is it better to get the $100 hot rod ones?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 30, 2010 12:13AM
Nicole - that's more of a personal shopping assistant question. My theory is always buy the best.
Jan 30, 2010 12:38AM
Sorry, you're right, I should only bother you guys for trail info. It's tempting to ask you all sorts of questions because you seem trustworthy and knowledgeable.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jan 30, 2010 5:55AM
No need be sorry Nicole - have a good adventure. W
Jan 30, 2010 1:28PM
Nicole, I purchased my hiking poles on overstock.com for around $45 and they are fantastic. They've been through 2 Kalalau trips and multiple day hikes on Kauai. My friend bought cheapos (around $20) at Target and one bent on a day hike before the big Kalalau hike, but it didn't break in half. It survived Kalalau as we couldn't find any hiking poles on the island and we looked at 7 different stores-big box and small stores alike. I'd suggest to check out Overstock.com and other sites like it and you might find a bargain for a realy good pole withouth spending $100. IMO hiking poles are a must.
Jan 30, 2010 10:11PM
Hi, my wife and I hiked the first 2 miles two years ago when we were in Kauai and absolutely loved the trail. We have hikes many trails in Western Canada (Jasper, banff, yoho, Mt Robson etc)and Kalalau, while different from our mountains, offers spectacular views and terrain very much worth the walk. We are heading back to Kauai the last week of March and would like to walk in a bit further. I have read that some recommend 4 miles to the falls (which falls are these? Is it the first stream and then up stream 2 miles?) What is pass the first stream that is worth walking to on the trail?
Jan 31, 2010 6:20AM
I\'m flying to Hawaii from Hong Kong for the Chinese New Year holiday period and I\'m hiking this trail this time next week.
If possible, I would rather get water from the streams I cross than carry in large amounts of water. Just how safe is the stream water for drinking? The disease leptospirosos sounds pretty nasty! Can I buy water purification tablets in Hanalei or Kapaa?
Jan 31, 2010 10:23PM
Nicole,
I absolutely love my hiking poles, but they\'re not for everyone. I suggest you borrow or rent a pair to try them out a few times. I have a pair of LEKI poles from REI and I swear by them but my wife refuses to use the pair I purchased her.
On my last trip to Kalalau I took my poles and while they were most helpful on places like Red Hill and the exposed sections, they actually got in the way at times. Where the trail is overgrown with vegetation on both sides, I found there wasn\'t room for both poles and my legs. Actually put one pole away for awhile and went with just one.
Also, another alternative, at the trailhead at Kee Beach, there always seems to be a bundle of hiking sticks people have abandoned after their trek...a real assortment of branches to chose from.
Have fun!!
Feb 01, 2010 5:30AM
I'm staying in Poipu and am hoping to drive to the YMCA and start hiking by early morning. How long will that drive take? How do I find out more about contacting the YMCA for parking?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 02, 2010 5:30PM
Sarah - give yourself about 1.5 hours to get to Camp Naue. Once there you simply check in at the gate and park your car near the sign in shack for $5 / night.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 02, 2010 5:34PM
Richard - you can buy tablets in Hanalei, purifiers work well too.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 02, 2010 5:35PM
Robert - Hanakapiai falls is up the valley after the stream crossing. Hiking further down the coast is nice too, less people and some big views. It just depends on whether you want a waterfall or more hiking down the coast.
Feb 02, 2010 10:31PM
Thanks for your reply about purification tablets. I'll be there in a few days time!
Where is the last place I can buy my food supply before I start the trek? Is there any food store in Haena? Or do I have to buy everything in Hanalei? That would mean buying an additional nights food as I want to camp the night before at the YMCA.
Feb 04, 2010 5:41PM
Aloha from Korea~
We are planning a hiking in late Feb.
- I've been reading many posts and blogs about permit problem.
Is that too late for permmiting? can we get soon?
- What kind of water purification do I use? can I buy purification in Kauai store like Safeway?
- Which Tablet do you use? Would you recommand the brand name?
~ how would you recommend we wear?shorts ? can it be safe from moosqitos?
~ What can we see making 11mile hiking it? is there something special view like falls or cliffs?
Please Describe kalalau point to me.
- What means 'Composting toilets'? it means No toilet anyhwhere?
- How long dose it take to get 2 miles point? is that tough?
Thank you all~
Feb 05, 2010 8:22AM
Hey Brent, sorry Ive been busy. Lots of trees both on the bluff and on the beach. Reach out to EVERYONE,your in for an AMAZING experiance! Tell Biff& the boys at the beach I said ALOHA. Believe it or not I turned into a subdivision and asked a guy picking up dog poop in his yard if I could leave my laptop at his house for a few days for $20. He said sure but I dont want your money, He wouldn\'t take any money for it when I returned. Obviously we cant all do that but the spirit of ALOHA LIVES on Kauai! I left my rental car unlocked at the beach,it was untouched. CHRIS, I took the same flight and as I said before CHECK the weather. You could get stuck by swollen rivers or extremely slippery trails. It tok me 9 hours in by myself and 8 hours out with a guy I met in the valley. As far as permits go . . .Im SURE that EVERYONE has one, but I did not see any rangers nor did anyone I met ;-)
Feb 06, 2010 11:12PM
This trail stays in your heart!!! My wife and I hiked this trail last summer at the end of August. We planned to make it to the end but I stopped at about the 7 mile mark. My wife was upset that I stopped there, but hey it was all I could safely make. This hike stays in your thoughts and it\'s all good. I\'ll always remember the beauty of the coast, the challenge of the hike, the friendliness of all the people directly or indirectly connected to the Kalalau trail. Maybe one day we\'ll do the whole trail, but even if we never go back to Kauai, I\'ll always respectlfully remember Kalalau. I love this site because I always check back in to read of the new adventures people are planning. A special shout out to W who reply\'s to many people\'s requests. He is a good man to respond so helpfully, especially when many of the questions are already answered if people look back at the old posts. The aloha spirit truely is a divine gift. Safe journey\'s to all who visit Kauai and especially to those who are blessed to experience the Kalalau trail. Peace.
Feb 07, 2010 11:42PM
We just came out after 4 days on the trail...I was there this past Tues-Sat....
TRAIL CONDITIONS
It is in good condition. Several muddy spots, but nothing to stop you. It is very narrow in spots. Stay focused and wear good shoes and use hiking sticks.
SPEED/TIMING
It takes the average hiker 1-2 miles per hour. I am in excellent shape and with pictures, a few brief breaks, and getting water, I averaged 1 mile an hour. I found it more practical and safer to camp at 6 (Hanakoa) on the way in and out. I was glad I was well-rested for the stretch between mile 6.5-8.
CAMPING
If you camp at Hanakoa, some of the better spots for tents are tucked away up the mountain or on the other side of the stream.
The unofficial campground at mile 8 does have a nicer view. BUT, I would not suggest approaching the most difficult spot (mile 6.5-8) in the dark. If it is late in the day, stop at Hanakoa (6) and start fresh in the morning.
PARKING
YMCA no longer allows parking. We left our rental car in the trail head parking lot with no valuables and unlocked. It was fine.
SIDE TRIP
I highly suggest the side trip to Hanakoa falls. It takes about 30 minutes. The trail splits shortly after crossing a stream. At the split, go LEFT. (We made the mistake of going right, following the stream, and hiked for 30 minutes in the wrong direction the first time). Go left, into the woods. It is about 1/2 mile.
PACKING
-Pack light. I cannot stress this enough. This is not the hike to bring \"extras\". Only bring what you need and be strategic in how you pack to minimize weight.
-Bring Tevas.
-Bring moleskin or something for blisters. Everyone seemed to get blisters.
--Walking sticks or trekking poles are key. There are a bunch at the trailhead as you begin the hike. They help with muddy patches, crossing streams, and extra stability in the narrow spots. I used the walking stick at the trail head and it worked like a charm.
PERMITS
Permits are a pain to get, but it is doable. I got mine 1 week prior. Any state park office can issue a permit. So if you on another island, it may be easier to go to another office than the Lihue office. In the very least, send off your $ and application, make a photocopy, and you have evidence of your efforts in case if you come across a ranger. We did not see any rangers, but we did see several park maintenance crews on the first 2 miles. No one asked us about our permits.
MISC
-Plenty of water/streams along the way.
-Lemons on lemon trees are plentiful at Hanakoa campground.
-There are people living on the trail permanently. We met quite a few of them. They were very nice, hospitable, and willing to help with info and tips. Kudos to those perm residents who help maintain the trail for the rest of us to use!
Hope this helps!
Aloha,
Mike
Feb 08, 2010 1:03PM
have hiked the first 2 miles before and it was no problem at all--about an hour each way. beautiful. now we are going back and want to tackle it all. I am concerned about the narrow/cliff parts, as there is nothing like that in the first 2 miles. I know that no one has died here, etc. But are we talking about technical climbing vs scrambling vs just walking. also, how unstable is the footing? seems really dangerous if the soil/gravel underfoot is loose. how long are these exposed regions of the trail? a few feet here and there vs the entire mile 7-8?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 08, 2010 5:35PM
Thanks for the good post Mike. Just want to clarify that parking at YMCA Camp Naue IS available - don't know why you thought is was not.
Feb 08, 2010 6:56PM
Did the hike 10 days ago and it will stay with me forever. I would highly recommend doing it in 2 days unless you have a LOT of experience, including with highly exposed hikes. Doing the cliffy part when you're already exhausted is not a good idea...
We found miles 7 through 10 to be hard (again, maybe because we were just tired). The cliffy section is of course scary (though not super technical), but the miles afterward still have some really exposed portions (exposed as in - you fall, and you'll end up in the Pacific).
Pack as light as you can. Drink and eat often, keep your pace up.
But achieving this hike will stay in my heart forever. Seeing Red Hill and the valley after all the effort and the stress was magical.
Feb 08, 2010 11:09PM
Hello W. I just called the YMCA and asked about parking there for $5 a night for the hiking and the person who answered the phone said they no longer offer that. Is that the truth? I am VERY confused by going through all the posts but the did just tell me 5 min ago that they don't offer that. what is your current experience?
We are not going until August but I like to plan ahead. :)
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 08, 2010 11:31PM
You probably called the YMCA center in Lihue. Camp Naue is in Haena and definitely still offers parking.
Feb 09, 2010 2:45AM
So many thanks to you for this incredible resource. My boyfriend and I had a last-minute blessing of an opportunity to take a trip, and we decided that the one thing we wanted to do was to fly to Kauai and hike this trail. Neither of us have ever been to Hawaii, and it's unlikely we'll be able to afford to go again, so we seized the opportunity 3 weeks ago and have been to this site almost daily as we try to prepare for our departure from Chicago in 5 days. We have had no luck with permits with our very seat-of-the-pants travel planning, but plan to take Mike's advice above and at least carry a copy of our mailed application and check in case we're stopped. We're planning to take the bus to Hanalei and then hitch to the trailhead, and we both feel confident and prepared in terms of our hiking experience and gear.
My one question is, how has the weather been this week? I've read that it's been a dry winter, so we're hoping for good trail conditions. Mud or no mud, we're still doing it, but we want to be as prepared as possible if there have been heavy rains right before we head out.
Thanks so much!
Feb 09, 2010 5:18AM
That is so weird because I most definitely called Camp Naue. 808 246-9090. Maybe we'll just have to try when the time comes.
Feb 09, 2010 4:55PM
Is it legal to carry a fixed blade knife? I have done a great deal of \"adventuring\" around the world and my RAT RC-5 has gone pretty much everywhere with me. Thanks in advance!
Feb 10, 2010 4:11AM
TO BRENDAN : i've done the hike three times in the last couple years (twice inbound,once outbound),most recently last Sept. Each time i had a 30-35 lb. backpack on - fyi ). There are lots and lots of 'exposed' sections along the 2nd half of the trail (after mile 4 or so ) where the trail narrows to around a foot or so with dangerous drop-offs to one side. you gotta be real careful along the vast majority of the trail , and try to stay focused even as you start getting fatigued. but there are just a couple 'extra' dangerous sections,mainly around miles 7-8. fyi, there are several videos on YouTube,some better than others. on some parts of miles 7-8.5 the soil is loose/crumbly (PLUS very narrow AND with very dangerous drop-offs) and you just obviously have to go slow and take it one step at a time (i know that sounds 'cliche' but trust me,it's right-on in this case). and other 'cliffy' parts are solid footing traction-wise (unless it's wet at the time) but kind of bumpy/rocky, and smack up against the cliff wall with sheer drop-off on your other side, and personally when i hit that part i would kind of 'lean' into the wall a bit and/or use one or both hands to 'hold' the wall for stabilization. anyway, i hope i haven't scared you because there is absolutely no need to be ; just be prepared mentally and you'll be fine. enjoy !
Feb 10, 2010 7:54PM
Myself and a friend are planning a trip to Kauai for the first weekend of July. We have read a great deal of information on the trail, what to expect, etc. We are considering kayaking in to the beach and are curious if anyone knows of rental locations for kayaks. We don't want a guided tour, just to rent the kayaks. Any information is greatly appreciated!
Feb 12, 2010 3:37AM
DANA OH: My wife and I have done the 22 miles of the Kalalau trail twice in the past two years and while I see that many people seem to have permit problems, I have never had a problem. But it is hit and miss as to whether they?ll have permits available on the particular dates that you may want to do the hike, especially only a couple of weeks away. We have always gotten our permits a full year in advance to assure that we can get the dates we want. As for water treatment, I use both a ?MSR WaterWorks EX? filter and ?Potable Aqua Iodine and Taste Neutralizer? tablets since a filter alone won?t get rid of Leptospirosis. I bought them at REI, a sporting goods store. I don?t know if you can buy them at someplace like Safeway but likely you could at Kayak Kauai in Hanalei.
I usually wear ?boardshorts? which is basically a bathing suit, but shorts would be fine. Some people are affected by the mosquito?s and use a repellant, but I?ve never been bothered by them.
The scenery is beyond description. It is simply beautiful including high cliff?s along the coast line, the green carpeted, fluted mountains that make up the Na Pali coast, and the beach itself. There is a waterfall at the end, but it?s not really the main reason for going to Kalalau. I assure you that it will be a life changing experience due to a combination of the extreme physical and mental challenge of the hike itself, the accomplishment of having completed it, the beauty of the scenery, the peaceful area at the beach, the star filled sky at night, and the hippies.
I have to say that I?ve never heard of ?Kalalau Point? so I cannot help you there. Composting toilets are simply regular ?out house? type toilets that use leaves and other natural debris to naturally decompose the matter in the toilet.
It typically takes us about 1 hour and 15 minutes to go the first two miles, but everybody is different and you may slow down as you get further into the hike and get tired. We averaged between 1 and 2 miles per hour. Our slowest (and first time) was 11 hours one way and our fastest was 7.5 hours one way. I suggest hiking the full 11 miles in one day so that you?ll have more time to spend at the beach and to explore the valley trails. Then spend at least two nights. This way you have at least one full day to recuperate and explore before having to come back out. More days are better.
Bring Teva?s (hiking sandals) or something like that for stream crossings, or just wear them all the way. We do. Bring a roll of white, cloth medical tape. It?s great for a multitude of things including blisters, shoe repair, etc. We tried moleskin at first, but it didn?t stay on or work as well as just plain white tape.
You may want to pack a $1.99 ?trash bag? type of poncho (available at Kayak Kauai in Hanalei) in the winter months as you could get a bit cool when you stop walking if it?s raining, which it does more in the winter than the other months. And in the summer you welcome the rain to cool you off from the sweaty hike.
I have to stress a few things.
1.) Leave early. This means on the trail at or before sunrise, especially during the winter with the shorter days.
2.) Pack as light as you possibly can, you?ll really appreciate it by mile 11.
3.) Use two trekking poles for stability in slippery spots and stream crossings. And they will also help to reduce blisters.
Feb 14, 2010 11:57PM
Hello - thanks for such a great website. Has anyone ever encountered a famous Hawaiian centipede while hiking to Kalalau or camping there? These creatures scare the bejesus out of me :)
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 15, 2010 6:07PM
Damian - centipedes are all over Na Pali. I've been bitten 3x (only 1x while hiking). Just keep your tent zipped up and a watchful eye.
Feb 15, 2010 7:39PM
has anyone else looked into obtaining a camping permit lately? It looks like they are switching over to a web-based system in March. But for the time being (as of Feb 12th) they will not be accepting any more reservations until the web site has been launched fully. rate are going up as well, it seems.
W--you have any input on this? I really want to hike when we are there in April, but I'm worried about a hang up with all of these changes!
check out the link at the top for Hawaii parks service for info...
Feb 16, 2010 12:02PM
hi friends of kauai!!! there's a group of us going to do the whole 11 mile(22 total) hike in march. we're from oahu but have never had the opportunity to experience this. we've got first aid, water purifiers, good footwear, and camping gear covered. can we get permits in advance or do you suggest to just get them when we arrive? also are you allowed to have a fire at the end of the hike? my guess would be no but wanted to ask just in case.thanks so much for any and all suggestions!!! can't wait!!!!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 16, 2010 6:18PM
Brendan - I know they are switching but have not personally experienced the process right now. Knowing the State DLNR, customer service is not their top priority. Really there should be camping and permitting at the trailhead - like it is at every park I have ever visited on the mainland.
Feb 16, 2010 7:12PM
Brendan, they are switching and one of the two people who works there is going on vacation soon. I guess things are a bit chaotic for them right now. The cost per night is $10 per person.
Feb 16, 2010 9:55PM
quick update:
I just spoke with some at the Hawaii Parks office (808-274-3444) who was actually friendly.
She said mailed applications received now will not be considered. They plan to have an online permitting system up and running by March 15th, so that we can log in from home and pay and print out permits.
For those who plan to go before March 15th, they will likely have to walk into office to get permit.
Feb 16, 2010 10:22PM
Thanks so much for all of your great help and advice!
Like Emily, I also called Camp Naue and they told me that they no longer offer parking. Do you know of anywhere else that might simply store our luggage (two suitcases)?
Thanks in advance!
Feb 18, 2010 6:43AM
I have done the Na Pali Coast Trail twice in the past, starting at Kalalau both times. The first time with Captain Zodiac and the second with a friend & his private boat. It seems now there is no option than to hike in from Hanakapiai, is this correct...or, is there a zodiac company that does drop-off's in May?
Feb 18, 2010 8:55PM
Hello,
A friend and I are set on travelling to Kauai at the end of April with the intention of hiking the Kalalau trail. We\'ve recently stumbled into the hiking/camping permits dilemma that I see some other people have mentioned previously. Their website states that they will likely not be accepting permits via the internet until March 31, 2010 and the only currently accepted method is walk-ins. Since we live in Vancouver, this is no easy task. We\'re skeptical to wait until the end of March for what might only be a chance of getting permits, especially since we\'re travelling to Kauai exclusively to complete this hike. If anyone can provide any insight into how we can obtain these permits as soon as possible, it would be greatly appreciated.
Additionally, if we travel to Kauai and don\'t get permits to hike the Kalalau trail, are there any comparable hikes that would be worth our while?
Feb 19, 2010 10:15AM
katie carter: if you're on Oahu now just drop into the Oahu office and get sorted. The larger the group the further ahead you'll need to get the permits.
Kalanimoku Building
1151 Punchbowl Street, Room 310
Honolulu, Hawai?i, 96813
Phone: (808) 587-0300
Fires - there were plenty of people using them and I didn't see any notices or brochures saying you shouldn't. But if it rains you might wish you'd brought something gas-powered.
You've got the important things covered. You'll love it.
Feb 22, 2010 12:20AM
According to the website, for those of us going to Na pali in March-early April, the only way to get the permit is in person. hehe. So I hope it\'s true that nobody will be checking too closely.
The website says that it should be up and accepting internet reservations by 31 March this year.
Feb 22, 2010 8:58AM
I am coming in on the27th and am looking for someone to do the trail with me, in one day and out the next as this is all the time I can spare. I would like to go in on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. Any one interested please contact me at guzzguys@hotmail.com
Feb 23, 2010 3:49PM
I was just wondering if there is any wildlife that we need to be cautious of on the 11 mile trail and at the camping zones. If so, what are the precautions we need to take?
Feb 23, 2010 6:34PM
I just checked out the DLNR Parks site. Camping is now $20 a night. I'm glad I paid while it was still $10. Although they could charge $50 and I would still go, at least once. Maybe see you on the trail, I'll be starting it Monday. Thanks again for all your help. This is the best sight ever.
Feb 25, 2010 8:17PM
I gave my dad the DLNR phone number and an email address to contact if he doesn't hear from us 2 days past our due date out of the Kalalau trail. Since you seem to travel the trail almost daily could he also have this site as a potential contact if he doesn't hear from us?
Feb 27, 2010 6:22PM
In light of the earthquake in Chile, is there anything set up to warn people in Kalalau of an impending tsunami?
Feb 28, 2010 3:26PM
Hello all,
Need some advice, and I\'m hoping I can get it here. My wife and I are planning on spending about 2 weeks in Kauai with 5 days at Kalalau Beach. I\'m having trouble with logistics and need some help. The only way we can afford to come for 2 weeks is to forgo staying at hotels and basically camp at the various beaches throughout the island for our stay. Furthermore, since we plan on going to the Kalalau beach first, we don\'t want to spend the money on a car rental for that first week simply to get us to the trail head.
With that in mind, we most likely get into Kauai in the evening, stay somewhere that evening then hopefully get a ride up to the Hanalei the next day where we can pick up supplies, We\'ll then spend the night at Haena Beach park. We\'ll then get started early in the morning for Kalalau. After our time on Kalalau, we\'ll need to catch a ride back to the airport to pick up our rental car for the remainder of the trip.
As you can see, we are gonna be somewhat dependent on the good nature of people for the first part of our trip. We have been considering staying at the Kauai International Hostel the first night as they offer airport pickup (however the reviews I have read haven\'t been the best). We would still need a ride up to Hanalei and Haena Beach in the morning, and am hoping we can hitch a ride up there. Finally we will need a ride from the trail head back to the airport to pick up our car.
With all that said, how difficult will it be catching rides to our various destinations? I am not to keen on the Hostel based on the reviews, but I don\'t know of any other options. Does anyone else have any recommendations?
Honestly, I would love it if I could find somebody willing to pick us up, let us stay at their place and give us ride to the trail and would be happy to compensate them for their help. However I know that in today\'s day and age finding people that trusting is difficult (not that I blame them).
So is there any advice people could share? Anything that they would do differently? I can\'t wait for this trip and the opportunity to spend a week at paradise. Thanks
Eric
Feb 28, 2010 4:11PM
Did they recently increase the price to stay hike the trail? I see a lot of people saying $10/night, but it looks like the website is stating $20/night. That seems awfully ridiculous price to pay to camp at a primitive campsite with no accommodations. I understand its a very popular trail and beach; however I never would have imagined paying $40/night for my wife and myself to camp. Seems like some price gouging to me.
Eric
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 28, 2010 8:25PM
Hi Eric - I don't know about revised fees but would not be surprised. The State frequently looks for more revenue in the wrong places, with no increase in actual services.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Feb 28, 2010 8:27PM
Hi Eric - you can catch a bus to Hanalei and hitching the last 8 miles to Kee is usually quite easy.
Mar 01, 2010 4:22AM
We are looking to go in July of this year. My husband and I have hiked before, but the only danger we really encountered were bears, mountain lions,high altitude, and freezing.
I do get nervous when looking at video footage of the drop offs and narrow trails. With that said, is there a place where we can check trail conditions/reports PRIOR to getting to the cliffs? My husband is dead set on doing this trail (he's fearless), but I am VERY cautious.
Also based on videos you see on youtube, is the trail really that bad or does the video make it look worse than it really is?
Thanks for any insight.
Elissa
Mar 01, 2010 4:31AM
I also meant to ask about the trail width. Is it really 5 inches at some points with a 350 foot drop off? That almost seems like you would be leaning over the edge?
Thanks again,
Elissa
Mar 01, 2010 6:25AM
We will hike to the Kalalau beah in late may. I am wondering if there will be dry wood can be gathered for fire? Or we have to bring gas powered stove for a hot meal and boiling water?
Thanks.
Mar 01, 2010 3:31PM
Hi Eric,
have you tried "couchsurfing" a network of people offering up a couch/bed/small room all over the world for either a trade or a very small fee? It may be just what you are looking for. More than likely better than a hostel but still very basic... but will get you more in touch with the local community.
Good Luck and Enjoy Paradise.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 01, 2010 8:06PM
Hi Sunny - you can hunt for wood in the valley but I always bring my stove.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 01, 2010 8:06PM
No Elissia - it's not 5 inches across.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 01, 2010 8:08PM
Hi Elissa - my opinion is that the trail is not as gnarly as bears and high mountains. Everyone is different but I will state once again that we have never heard of anyone falling off the trail.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 01, 2010 8:17PM
Hi Bailey - no dangerous wildlife exists on land here.
Mar 01, 2010 9:30PM
eric--
i dont know your budget constraints, but we found a few places for pretty cheap. kauai sands hotel in kappa has decent reviews and i just booked online there for around 70 bucks. Thats as cheap as a crappy motel 6 here in AL. also there is a YMCA and campground near the kalalau trailhead. dont know cost, but its got to be cheap. There is also camping in the waimea canyon area. There are also B&B's that can be found on tripadvisor.com for around the $100 mark. The other resorts are outrageously priced (but probably worth it for one night after hiking 22 miles!)
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 01, 2010 10:07PM
YMCA Camp Naue offers tent camping, bunk houses (think kid's summer camp style), hot showers, and a mellow beachfront atmosphere for $15 per person / night. Despite other posts to the contrary car parking is also available for $5 / night. Camp is basically open for walk-in traffic unless groups have reserved the entire camp. Busy season is generally May through mid-September, with Fall and Winter offering lots of room for people heading to Na Pali.
Mar 02, 2010 2:21AM
Thank you. I have read a lot of stories and there are a lot people who like to exagerate. I feel better about undertaking this trail.
Mar 02, 2010 4:22PM
ELISSA : scroll back a bit on this site to find a long answer i posted to another hiker w/ your same question about the narrow/cliffy parts of the trail,etc. I posted it probably around a month ago (?) but you shouldnt have a problem finding it since i remember it was a very long,rambling yet very informative post ! it always looks scarier on a video than when in person. at least that\'s what i thought after my first time a couple years ago. the trail doesnt quite get as narrow as 5\" but it does get quite narrow at some points. regarding checking trail conditions, i suppolse you could try calling the DLNR a day or two before your hike, but they can be hard to contact sometimes. on the day that you actually start your hike, most likely you will pass by people returning from Kalalau, and you can ask them about the trail conditions which they have seen firsthand.
Mar 02, 2010 4:33PM
ELISSA : i forgot to mention, in addition to educating yourself on the trail's terrain,demands,etc (which you are already doing) probably the most important thing to consider (and prep for) is the physical demands of the hike. especially if you will be wearing any extra weight (backpack) and especially if your plan is to finish in one day. if you arent physically (and of course mentally) ready, then by the time you even reach the cliffy parts around mile 8, you will already be physically (and mentally) worn out, making the cliffy parts even more stressful than they already are. you may already be in very good hiking/backpacking physical shape, so my preaching may be a moot point, but if you aren't, you have several months to get ready and i'd advise you (and husband) to get started right now. trust me, if you have a few extra pounds that you can afford to drop, it will make a huge difference when you do 10.5 hilly miles (in warm humid conditions) with a backpack strapped on .
Mar 03, 2010 11:11AM
Tim-
Thanks so much for the information! At this point, we are all about trying to get ourselves in the best cardiovascualar shape we can be in for the inclines etc. We are in Dayton, OH so the only place to do that is the gym. We have prepared ourselves for other hikes in Colorado of similar distance, but the altitude was what made the hike difficult as well as heavy packs(definitely not narrow trails). I think the cliffs are going to be my biggest challenge as I do fear heights and get dizzy just at the top of a mountain when snow skiing!
I hope when we get there we will have lots of people to talk to and discuss the trail. (I am thinking in July that will probably happen)
As for the weight, I am planning on taking no more than 20lbs on my back (5 of that will be starting out as water, the rest will hammock, pack itself, and other essentials such as food. I weigh 105 and do not think I could handle much more than that without getting vertigo at the end of the trail.
If you have any other tips that would be great! I am even thinking about taking my pack and loading it with weights to get used to the extra load at the gym...we will see. :)
Mar 04, 2010 9:07PM
ELISSA : I\'m from Chicago so i had the same issue as you in terms of training for all of the hills ... luckily we have some \'forest preserves\' close by , where there are a couple decent hills (maybe just 100 yards long at about 15-20 % incline) and i would wear a pack and just go up/down this big hill for awhile. got kind of boring after awhile but it was as close to the \'real thing\' as i could get ! i like your idea of wearing a weighted pack at the gym (stairclimber, incline treadmill). i\'ve done that too, and also i bought a weighted vest online (they also sell some models at Target and some sporting goods stores) which i would use instead of the pack sometimes. if you put weight in your pack make sure it is kind of evenly distributed so that u dont put unnecessary strain on your body. also, once the weather warms up , try to get outside to do some strenuous exercise in the heat/humidity, prior to your Hawaii trip. trust me it will be worth the effort. regarding your fear of heights.. i did the trail the first time 3 years ago, with my girlfriend. she was kind of afraid of heights (maybe not quite as much as you though). but she had no problem at the cliffy parts. i know its easy for me to say (since i dont have a serious issue w/heights), but all it really comes down to is putting one foot in front of the other,until you get from point A to point B, and not looking down ! at the tough parts, just focus,dont get distracted, and take your time. don\'t psych/stress yourself out way in advance ... very counterproductive ! positive mental attitude ! you will be successful ! Tim
Mar 04, 2010 10:21PM
Did the trail (to Kalalau beach and back) in 2 days about a week ago for the first time. My impression is that it's amazing in many ways. I'm not an experienced hiker but am in shape. The trail wore me out (especially the last 4 miles coming back on the 2nd day) but I had a blast. The "cliffy" section got to me but like everyone's advice, I took my time and focused on the trail. It did seem easier on the way back. This site was extremely useful/helpful. Two key things were pack light & use a walking stick. In addition I suggest bringing Gatorade packets that you can add to water. This was a big help and made the water taste better after using iodine. Before doing the hike I walked hills w/ about 20-25 lbs in a back-pack which helped prepare as well. Thanks again for all of the suggestions on this site!
Curt
Mar 06, 2010 3:08AM
Dear Winston,
Rumor has it here in the nation\'s capitol that there will be a serious effort by volunteers this summer to improve the Kalalau Trail. Is this true? If so, since I plan on making my 4th hike into the Valley to celebrate my birthday in July, I\'m wondering if there could be an opportunity to lend a hand with a shovel or wheel barrow for a couple of days. Thanks for confirming one way or the other.
Curt
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 06, 2010 6:09PM
Curt - volunteers already are improving the trail but it's limited to the Hanakapiai portion. Charlie Cobb-Adams and the volunteers are doing an amazing job. Proof that this coastline is better served by taking it away from the DLNR and putting it into hands of those that actually care. We could have campgrounds at Kee, permits at Kee, better trails, stewardship instead of of the current situation: permits in Lihue ($20 / night!) and helicopter rangers / trash removal.
Jeff
Mar 07, 2010 9:38PM
Thank you for a great website and yes the gov should outsource this maintenance to people who care will only some oversite that is necessary. My gf and I are planning to do the hike in 2 days starting around March 27th. We will decide the date when we get to the islands and visit the DLNR office and find out what is available. I have been considering to camp at Kalalau Beach without a tent just to save the weight. But as I read more and more, (rain and centipedes that bite,) I am now questioning this idea. What is your recommendation?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 07, 2010 9:56PM
Jeff - I always bring a lightweight tent. To me the space and bug repellent is important for a good night's sleep.
Mar 08, 2010 2:56AM
Elissa,
I noticed you said you live in Dayton Ohio. My boyfriend and I are going to hike the trail in April and we train in the gym several days a week and, as I am sure you know, that is no replacement for the real deal. So every weekend we hike in the great state of Ohio along the many trails we have here. I would recommend a book we use called \"50 Hikes of Ohio\". There are quite a few of the hikes in the southern region that are very hilly. Clear Creek Metro Park is located just on the south side of Lancaster. It is 4 1/2 miles with some pretty extreme inclines and declines. We just hiked Tar Hollow, located near Circleville. It is 12 miles with hills and narrow ledges. I would imagine you have some serious hills around or on the south side of Cincinnati. There is also a sequel called \"50 More Hikes of Ohio\" that we haven\'t gotten yet. There are also quite a few websites to help you if you google \"hiking ohio\". Good Luck with your training.
Mar 09, 2010 2:10AM
Super stoked on doing this hike on the 22nd of March. My wife and I are planning on hiking to Hanakoa and back in a day. I understand you need a permit to go past Hanakapiai. Will we have a difficult time obtaining this permit even though we are not camping and on short notice? We were going to pick up the permits the week before. Is nine hours a good estimate on time for this 12 mile hike for people that are in good shape and are experienced hikers? Thanks for your help.
kris
Mar 09, 2010 5:10AM
I hiked the Kalalau trail for the first time just over a week ago. Spent 3 nites on Kalalau beach before returning to Kee. It seemed like the perfect amount of time to spend for someone on a time constraint. It was just enough time to let my muscles relax, chill on the beach, and hike up the Kalalau valley to check out waterfalls and fruit trees. Once you get there you won\'t want to leave so if time allows, I would recommend staying longer!
I hiked the entire 11 miles in one day and I was definately exhausted. They are not joking about the trail being arduous, but at the same time, it is definately doable. I left around 10am and by the time I snapped 100 photos and crossed 2 swollen rivers, it was 6pm. I was battling a horrendous wind (gusts up to 50 mph) from mile 6 to red hill and it was certainly dicey around crawlers ledge (~9 mi mark)trying to compensate for the wind.
I highly recommend a tent or a hammock with a rainfly. You will appreciate it cuz it does rain and there are centipeded around. The good thing is there are no obnoxious clucking chickens! There is a wide variety of ripe fruit growing up the Kalalau valley this time of year that is delish!
I was rained on the enitre way out and it definately made the trail slick but, that said, it took just over 5 hrs to get out. Just take your time and ensure your footing in the dicey sections! Mahalo Kalalau!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 09, 2010 5:10PM
Hi Kris - try your best to get permits prior to arriving. Keep a copy of your application / letters. If you cannot get permits despite best efforts, I would still go.
Mar 10, 2010 6:40AM
We are arriving on Kauai the evening before we plan to hike to Kalalau. Most advice is to start early. The problem: we can\'t fly with fuel for the stove. We need a small 8 oz. canister for a Jetboil. We often use MSR brand canisters. The WalMart in Lihue is open late but doesn\'t carry this type of canister. Is there any place in Hanalei or near the trail head that opens early and would have that kind of fuel? We are staying in Kapaa the night before. Would anyone deliver a canister to our hotel?
Thanks for any help!
Jeff
Mar 10, 2010 8:37AM
Hello!
is there any organized tour for the trek ???
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 10, 2010 5:12PM
Hi Julie - there are no organized Kalalau hiking tours.
Mar 10, 2010 8:58PM
Jeff-
Check with Kayak Kauai or Peddle and Paddle in Hanalei. Kayak Kauai opens at 8am.
Mar 11, 2010 6:34AM
Tammy-
Thanks for the advice! I will definitely look into that. Please post about your experience in April!
Thanks again,
Elissa
Mar 11, 2010 6:39AM
Jeff,
Maybe you could have one sent to your hotel so that it is waiting for you when you check in. We are in the same boat only the additional problem we are facing is the parking situation. We are planning on leaving it somewhere safe as opposed to leaving it at the trailhead. So it looks like we probably won't hit the trail until 8:30 AM. About two hours later than what we would prefer.
Good luck!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 11, 2010 5:45PM
PARKING is available at Camp Naue despite what the Lihue office says. $5 / night.
Mar 11, 2010 11:10PM
There are other options for parking although the Camp Naue is probably your best/safest option. Its worth the $5 for piece of mind. It is about 2 miles from the trailhead.
Heres what I did. I parked at the trailhead with absolutely nothing in my rental car and left the doors unlocked. No one bothered my car. The people I hiked with put everything in the trunk and locked their doors. No one bothered their car. It\'s nice to get in your car after hiking the trail and not have to worry about hitching a ride, although hitching seems real easy and people can be generous to give rides..sweaty and stinky or not.
You can also park at Haena State Park for free and there is a lighted parking lot..I was told.
If you\'re thinking about parking at the trailhead and need a place to store your gear, Kayak Kauai offers storage compartments at their shop in Hanalei.
Kayak Kauai also will let you park your ride in their lot which is pretty much always under surveilance for $10/nite. They will shuttle you to the trailhead but you are on your own getting back.
Hope this helps!
Mar 13, 2010 10:17PM
My husband and I are hiking the Kalalau trail in just under a week. We have been training for this trip for the past 2+ months, anything from swimming and biking, to climbing stairs (oh so many stairs) with our hiking packs and gear. We\'re both pretty fit in general, have hiked in various places around the world before and generally feel like we\'re physically ready for the challenge, though I\'m sure that the narrow sections will cause me to pause for a minute (or two...) once we reach them.
My concern is with these centipedes I keep reading about. I hate bugs and I\'m worried that the stories I\'ve been reading online about people finding them in their sleeping bags, tens or beds, will keep me awake at night and turn me into a paranoid freak.
I know my questions might be silly, but are you more likely to encounter them in the wooded/grassy areas or on the beach/sand or does it really not matter? We\'ll be sleeping in a tent, and I will be very careful not to \"let anything inside\", but is there some sort of a repellent that I can spray on/around the tent that would help keep them away?
Also, if we do get stung, what\'s the best remedy for the imminent pain if you\'re say an 11 mile hike away from civilization? Antihistamine and/or Advil?
Any tips are appreciated...
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 14, 2010 5:49PM
Monika - you are way to freaked out about centipedes. You probably will not see one unless you go turning over rocks and logs. Zip up your tent and sleep peacefully. The pain is about that of a bee sting, but with less of a histamine reaction.
Mar 14, 2010 8:19PM
Monika,
In all my trips to Kalalau I have only spied two centipedes...both were on the trail and scurried away as I walked by. Even going up-valley they aren't a common sight. Never have I had one share my sleeping bag or tent with me. My advice is to put the little critters out of your mind and think of all the wonders you are going to see. I'm confident you and your husband will have an awesome, centipede-free adventure !!!
Aloha,
robert-
Mar 14, 2010 10:40PM
Where do I go get a full 11 mile permit?
Went to the website says the automated one not going to be available until late March
Mar 14, 2010 10:41PM
When we hiked the trail about 2 years ago, we parked in Haena beach park, almost directly under a street light, we locked it, but we had nothing visible in the car/nothing of great values stored in the car. We did leave 2 suitcases with clothes/swimsuits and snorkel gear etc for the rest of the trip in the trunk. We also did not open the trunk while at the beach park on our way to Kalalau beach. As far as we could tell nobody touched our rental car for the 4 days that we were gone. We tried to hitch a ride to and from the trail head, but ended up hiking both directions, but what's an extra mile or two on flat ground after/before the Kalalu trail?!? Upon the return we used the public showers at Haena beach park - before we headed out for dinner and check-in at the resort for the rest of our vacation. I think the Aloha spirit lives on and I have always been impressed with the friendliness and hospitality everywhere we have visitied esp. on Kauai.
Also a note on traveling with stoves on an airplane, make sure that it does not smell like fuel, or they may refuse to let you take your campstove on the plane. However, wether they let you or not can be very random depending on the agent checking you in so just be prepared for that. I have never experienced any problems, but I have seen other people checking in being forced to leave their whisper lite stove (or other brands) behind because the agent detected the smell of fuel... sometimes rightly so and other times I don't know what the airline agents were smelling... so in some ways it may be safer to rent a campstove once you get there. We have always brought our own, but I know we have been extra lucky.
Best of luck to those going on this amazing adventure! And once again Mahalo to the amazing people keeping up this website!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 14, 2010 11:11PM
Ummm - yah, exactly.
Mar 15, 2010 11:17PM
Ya, I thought I was overreacting, thanks for setting me straight Robert and Kauai Explorer Staff :)
I have wanted to hike this trail ever since I first learned about it about five years ago and I'm very excited about having the opportunity to do so.
One last question: I read that the water level at the stream crossings can be quite high depending on the time of the year. Has anyone ever encountered a situation where it was too dangerous to cross?
Mar 16, 2010 2:36PM
Monica,
I've never personally encountered a stream crossing that was too high to cross but it does happen. Usually the streams are gentle and easy to cross. But in times of rain, you want to keep an eye on the water level. It might not even be raining on you but up in the valley or up above it could be coming down. You would NEVER want to try and cross when the streams are high. Friends of mine recently hiked to Kalalau and on their return could not cross Hanakapiai Stream...it was just to high and too fast. They waited for several hours and the stream subsided enough they could cross. It is better to even miss your plane ride home than try to cross a raging stream. Hopefully you will have dry and beautiful weather.
Take care,
Robert
Mar 16, 2010 8:11PM
Thanks Kauai Exploror Staff great site my question is how is the signage for trails, waterfalls, outhouses etc. Were going to be there on May 17 hopefully spending two nights in the valley, thanks for your help. Brad
Mar 16, 2010 10:01PM
Monica, I went in March when it was very rainy and the streams were very high- Hanakoa, the 2nd river crossing, was at my waist and I'm a tall women. It was scary and I like water of all kinds and am used to both ocean, lake and swimming pools. In my youth I was a lifeguard. I used my hiking poles for stability, took one slow step at a time, and kept calm. It took a long time to cross. I changed from hiking boots into water sandals (Teva's with closed toe that also drain underneath. One the return out of the valley, Kalalau was running VERY high and was brown. My friend and I waited an hour and it didn't subside. Another couple crossed and helped us cross. All other things on the trip were easy compared to the rivers (mile 7 was a cake walk).
On another note, I also hiked during July and the rivers were barely running, only to my calf in the deepest spots. Amazing how they can change so quickly. Just keep an eye on the weather and watch the currents. Nothing worse then loosing your footing with a heavy backpack on. I took a dive while trying to "rock-hop" during the summer months. Not fun.
Good Luck! I can't wait until I can make another trip to Kauai and Kalalau!
Mar 17, 2010 1:47AM
Wow Julie, that sounds intense. I don't think that I would hike in if the water level was that high. I guess hiking back is a different story, you have to get back somehow but I don't think I'd risk crossing if it were too high/fast.
I don't mind water, but I don't think I would have the nerve to cross with the river at my waist (and I'm only 5'7"). From the weather forecast it looks like the last few weeks have been relatively dry, but I suppose that doesn't mean much... We'll keep an eye on the weather before setting out. We have water shoes that we plan on changing into for any crossings...
I'll keep my fingers crossed for sunny, clear skies. Thanks for the info Julie and Robert! I'll let you know how it goes when I get back.
Mar 17, 2010 11:18AM
Hi, I\'m 28(from Switzerland)in a very good shape, doing sport(as ice hockey) 5 times a week and lately started to hike 12-15 miles(with 4000ft of positive elevation) twice a week.
I would like to do the entire Kalalau trail(round trip) in one day(on June 19th or 20th).
I\'ll be alone. I\'ve some questions:
1) Is it still hard to obtain a hiking permit in Lihue? I hope that with the new web based system I will be able to get one directly on the Hawaii state parks website.
2) I?ll have a rental car, where should I pass the night(hostel ? camping? Any website to book in advance?) before my hiking day? Where should a park the car and at what time should I start hiking?
3) At what time does the sunrise come in Hawaii in June 20th?
Thanks in advance for your answers and already thanks for this very useful website!
Mar 17, 2010 6:08PM
On March 1st my husband and I set out on the Kalalau Trail. It is an amazing trail. The first 2 miles are a piece of cake. The wind was wicked and very gusty. For those who are on the fence about whether they think they can do this trail, I bet you can.
I'm sure 99.9999 percent of people who are attracted to this trail, will do just fine. I couldn't get past mile 6 and luckily caught a ride out with the helicopter that was picking up the trash at Hanakoa on March 3rd. Does anyone know what company does the garbage pick up? I'd like to send him my thanks again and some more money for the trip out.
I figured I could let the tiny percentage of people that might have problems on the trail know how I went wrong.
I've skydived, ziplined, bungeed no problem but I'm afraid to walk on ice, drive, cross a river on a log etc.
I'm happy to put my life in someone or something else's hands, but not in my own.
You do need to have confidence in yourself for some of the trail past mile 2.
If you are unsure, you could maybe stand near the edge of a cliff and picture a narrow trail. If you are comfortable, I bet you are good to go.
I have a small fear of heights, which became a huge fear of heights as I progressed on the trail.
I was my own worst enemy. I couldn't overcome my fear but it was too late to go back, and I was too afraid to go back.
If you met a part of the trail early on that makes you nervous, it might be a good idea to look behind you after and make sure that you are comfortable crossing back.
I should have clued in that I should have turned around, but I'm stubborn too. I figured I would get used to it and overcome. Instead by mile 5 and hour 5 I was becoming tired and fatigued, and because of that had even less control of my fear.
Usually I would be very disappointed in myself if I didn't complete something, but, for me, I just made a mistake.
Looking down at just my feet on the trail did work to get me through the last 4 miles to mile 6.
Again, this trail for most people in moderately good shape, will have a blast. I had no problem physically or cardio-wise on the trail. The only work out I get is kickboxing twice a week and I'm 38. So you don't need to be athletic.
We met a pregnant women on the trial, her husband had a knee brace. They did the whole trail in a day no problem.
I saw many people who I initially wouldn't think they could do it. They had no problems.
The trekking poles were a great help, but sometimes I think I was putting way to much pressure on them during my difficult spots which had the potential to make it dangerous for me. I say use them as aid, but depend on yourself more.
They were so right about just needing a 'confident step'. ie. if you can walk normally across a log that crosses a river, no problem. I take sideways, baby steps while holding someone's hand and I don't look down, problem.
I tiptoe across a patch of ice and fall down, other simply walk with a 'confident step' and have no problem.
My husband's only problem was me. I love him more than every now. He said the views were fantastic everywhere. His favourite was the last exposed cliff area before descending into Hanakoa.
If we get a chance, we want to kayack to Kalaulau Beach....except my husband's a little afraid of deep water.
Mar 17, 2010 10:39PM
Someone mentioned catching the bus up to Hanalei. My only concern there is if they will allow us on with our backpacks. Their website states that carry ons must be smaller than 9? x 14? x 22? and I don't believe our backpacks will fall under those guidelines. How strict are they in enforcing these rules? Do you think we'll have a problem getting 2 backpacks on the bus? Not sure how familiar people are with the various backpacks, but they are a Gregory Baltoro and Gregory Deva. Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 18, 2010 5:05PM
Hi Eric - I don't know how strict they are with packs, but I see other backpackers using the bus.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 18, 2010 5:10PM
Vladimir - sounds like you will do fine on your Kalalau Challenge. 1) Permits - keep trying to get them through the web and phone, if you've tried your best and still no luck, go for it anyway. 2) Try to camp in Haena so you are close to the trailhead. Park at Kee 3) You will be able to start hiking around 5:45am. Have fun.
Mar 18, 2010 7:44PM
I hiked the first two miles of the Kalalau trail to Hanakapia Beach yesterday. The waterfall there was so gorged with rainwater that no one was crossing it because the current was too strong. So heads up to people heading out, you might get stuck over there. Make sure you have enough food and water to wait out the storm waters. (Some people just had flip flops and swim suits.) I don't know how often the water level goes up like that and how quickly it comes down but I saw half a dozen people on the other side staring at the water, waiting for it to go down.
The hike was great! The trail was slippery, muddy and rocky. The view of the cliffs was nice. There was low cloud cover but we could still see.
Mar 18, 2010 9:41PM
What a great informative site!
My boyfriend and I are planning on hiking the trail in October. We are by no means lazy people but we are definatly not experianced hikers. We are buying our pack and boots this week so we can start training for it now.(1) Is this enough time? We live in Michigan and there are many trails we plan on hiking this spring and summer to prepare.(2)Does anyone have any advice on some trails here that will get us ready for the hike? The only thing I\'m afraid of is the narrow areas of the trail. Im not afraid of heights, and I know how to push myself, but Im starting to get a little nervouse about these areas.(3) Are they really that bad or will our training this summer prepare us? I have hiked before so Im not exactly an inexperianced hiker but most of the trails were 3 or 4 mile campground trails with little or no elevation. Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.
Mar 18, 2010 11:48PM
So I just called to verify that the trail would be open while out in Kauai during our trip (9/22-10/6) and was told that the trail would be closed from after Labor day until the end of October at the earliest. The reason that stated was something about clearing boulders around the campsite. Can somebody please verify this for me? I was really looking forward to this trip and was about to book my tickets. Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 19, 2010 6:43AM
Eric - we have not heard about that closure. The DLNR is indeed capable of closing the the entire amazing destination park in order to clear rocks in a certain area (probably with helicopters and explosives). The concept that rockfalls can even be prevented in this zone is a mind-boggling waste of taxpayer funds. There's also a river at Kalalau that could be used in the interim for campers.
Mar 20, 2010 9:46PM
RACHEL/GARY : according to the post right after yours (by Eric) the trail will be closed all of October. you should probably verify that first,before starting to train for the hike. Regarding training for the hike...i assume you will both be wearing backpacks ? i\'m not familiar with Michigan trails, but hopefully there are some hilly trails nearby,since those would be the most beneficial for your purposes.if you\'re not in the best shape right now, you should probably start hiking the trails now,without a pack on, until you build up your legs/endurance/cardio a bit,then add a pack with a little weight inside,and gradually increase the weight as you progress. the more hills you can do,the better. you want to try to replicate the actual trail conditions as closely as possible during your training. when summer rolls around, you should definitely try to do some of your exercise outdoors in the heat,since alot of the Kalalau hike will be in upper 70/low 80\'s (and humid). regarding the cliffy/narrow parts, i wrote a post during the last couple weeks (shouldnt be too hard to find by scrolling back) to someone who is afraid of heights and was worried about the cliffy parts. try to find that post and read it, should be helpful to you i hope.
Mar 22, 2010 4:51AM
Hi there,
Is this as tough as the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu? How dangerous of a hike is this for person going by themself?
How to get there without a car as we don't want to leave a rental car at the trailhead for 6 days.
Please let me know!
Thanks!
Mar 22, 2010 11:51AM
My husband and I are hoping to hike the Napali coast this August (provided we can get a permit). I was just curious where the best place to leave a rental car would be given we are visiting from out of the country. I get the sense there are a lot of break-ins?
Alternatively, if there is a bus or some other way of getting there we would also explore that option.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Justin
Mar 23, 2010 12:09AM
wow, permit acqusition may have just gotten a lot easier (fingers crossed), new online system is up and running now:
https://camping.ehawaii.gov/
Mar 23, 2010 1:10AM
TO JMADDEN : i think that as long as you have some prior hiking experience (Inca Trail would definitely qualify) and you are prepared both physically and mentally , and have researched thoroughly the different aspects of hike i.e. elevation change,cliffy sections,water requirements,etc.etc. , then doing the trail solo shouldnt be a problem. the more you can read on this website, the better !
Mar 23, 2010 11:07AM
Hawaii camping permit website is now up!!! You can make reservations online now!!! I just did it, create an account and login before trying to get a campsite, otherwise you will get kicked back to a create a login page. https://camping/ehawaii.gov/camping/all,c-search.html
Mar 23, 2010 3:14PM
Hi, Just wanted to let everyone know that the DLNR's ONLINE RESERVATIONS process is finally Online. I also got a confirmation from the DLNR@hawaii.gov that the trail is Closed after Labour Day until November 1st of this year for Rockfall Mitigation Work at Kalalau beach.
We're disappointed since we were looking forward to backpacking on the trail in Mid September. Being Canadian, we don't get a chance to hike on too many tropical trails. But I guess we'll just have to do it another time.
Can someone suggest an alternate multi day hike on the island?
I also wanted to say how very useful this website has been for planning our trip and to thank everyone for their advice and encouragement.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 23, 2010 6:14PM
Thanks Gail - I can't believe that the DLNR will close the entire park, but apparently that's the plan. Other good hiking can be found in Kokee and Waimea canyon.
Mar 24, 2010 9:18PM
My husband and I are coming to hike Kalalau Trail in mid May. We are bringing our daughter who will be 7 months by then. I\'ve taken her walking for miles on end, hiking (on much less dangerous trails) and camping several times. We are obviously going to be carrying her on our backs. We plan to take our time (we have a 5 day camping permit) and be realistic, ie: if it\'s too dangerous we turn back, no questions) I guess my question is, are we crazy? The goal is to make the full 11 mile hike, 2 days to hike in 2 to hike out and one in the middle to enjoy the beach. Do people take infants very often? I\'ve read that there have been no deaths on the trail but there have been falls. We are very confident in our own abilities and also know that we can handle injuries to ourselves but do you think the trail is too risky for such precious cargo?
Mar 25, 2010 2:28PM
Great site! What is the best method of transportation to the trail head? If by bus, great! If by car, where is the safest place to park? Also, what time do you recommend beginning the hike, if the intent is to complete the 11miles and set-up camp? Also, where is the best place to set-up camp? Thanks!!
Mar 25, 2010 7:11PM
I am planning on hitting the trail in the middle of May and I am all set except I cannot find a map for the life of me. Any ideas?
Mar 26, 2010 12:18AM
@Jmadden: I have done Camino Inca with my own gears (65 lbs) in 3 days / 2 nights and it was tough and very cold, almost blew my knee out... that was almost 8 years ago when I was 23... last year i did Kilimanjaro, and that was the most brutal thing I have done... but I anticipate this to be difficult hike not due to freezing temperatures or high elevation but sheer drop offs and our natural fear of heights... we just got a pass on-line for May 15-17th [$88 for 2 people), hopefully we\'ll see you guys out there. Plan to camp 2 nights, we\'ll start out on day 1 hopefully by 2pm. Does anyone have any recommendation where we should camp along the hike? Can you camp on the beach or have to retreat to the tree/palm lines... also did y\'all have problem at the airline carrying-on your hiking poles and MREs or do those need to be check in? and where between the airport and the trail head should I go get supplies? thanks
Mar 26, 2010 2:40AM
TO KRISTY : you should leave as early as u can... the two times i did the inbound hike i was carrying a 30-36 lb. backpack,with good weather. it took my girlfriend and me about 9 hours the first time, with several rest/eat/photo stops along the way. the second time was a little quicker, but not by much. and the one time i hiked outbound,beach to trailhead, not stopping as much or as long,and with maybe just 25 lbs., we took just 7.5 hrs. regarding where to camp, we actually camped in one of the large sea caves, but u can't do that year-round because the winter surf washes them out. also, there's only so much room 'available' in the sea caves... there's tons of fine choices out among the camping areas. alot of people seem to want to make camp not too far from the waterfall (shower).
Ann
Mar 26, 2010 6:02PM
My family (including an 11 and 13 year old) has plans to hike the 11 miles in April-spending three days/nights to break it up. We are all accustomed to difficult hiking but the steep drop off
(we have seen the u-tube video of the very narrow path over the steep drop off) concerns me. Would it be possible to anchor into the rock and belay the girls on as an extra saftey percaution?
Thanks so much for offering this web-site and your time!
Ann
Mar 28, 2010 2:55AM
My family ( including an 11 and 13 year old) has a permit to hike the trail next week. We have all done backcountry backpacking, but I am concerned about the narrow passes/steep cliff areas. Would it be possible to use rock anchors and belay the kids on to a climbing harness at those points or would the rock be to unstable?
Thanks much for your advice,
Ann
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 28, 2010 5:37PM
Ann - you guys will have fun on the Na Pali. Anchors and belays are not necessary - plus the volcanic rock is unstable. I've hiked that section many times, even with my daughter when she was 5. We get so many questions and posts about the "cliff section" after Hanakoa. Honestly the biggest problem is people completely psyching themselves out about the section. Nobody has ever fallen off.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 28, 2010 5:39PM
Hi again Ann - stop watching the YouTube videos and keep your eyes on the trail.
Mar 29, 2010 5:12AM
Me and my boyfriend are planning to do the 11 miles hike and spend there 2 nights. Where is the best place to stay overnight before we start the hike early in the morning (motel, camp etc.). And where we can leave the car so it would be safe. I've read somewhere that it's not recommended to leave the car by the trailhead.
Thank you very much for your answer.
Sarka
Mar 29, 2010 2:21PM
Just curious, the movie "The Perfect Get Away" where there's a scene of sheer drop off and one of the character almost falls off from the distraction of an fly-by helicopter... was that real part of the trail?
Also anyone knows from the airport to the trail head, where is the best place to pick up supplies: fuel for my dragonfly MSR, salami, water, etc?
thanks
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 29, 2010 5:26PM
Hi Nomad - that cliff scene in Perfect Getaway was not filmed on Na Pali. The actual trail is nowhere near that steep.
Mar 29, 2010 8:15PM
Nomad and Ann,
You will love the \"scary\' section...the views are spectacular, the trail is very easy to follow and you should have no problem staying upright and on the trail. As the Kauai Explorer Staff stated, \"no one has fallen off the trail\"...and that means everyone who has hiked to Kalalau...old and young, men and women, fit and out of shape, in all types of weather and time of day or night. Please don\'t let the silly movies (Perfect Getaway) or u-tube videos psych you out. It is very doable. The only people who seem to have any problem at all are those with acrophobia - a fear of heights. But even if you are fearful of heights, just keep your eyes on the trail, take your time, watch your step and whoa-la...you\'ll be through it and soon on your way down Red Hill.
Write back and tell us how it goes !!!
bob
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 29, 2010 9:51PM
Hi Lily - the Kayak shop and Peddle and Paddle have maps. You don't need a map for Kalalau but it may help you learn points of interest.
Mar 30, 2010 5:25PM
Hey All,
Wondering if anyone has kayaked to Kalalau beach from Ke'e/Hanalei and might know the average trip time. My friend and I are hiking the trail in and out and then looking to kayak the length of the trail again to get a better view of Na Pali coastline.
Also, are you allowed to stay overnight on the beach if you kayak there?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 30, 2010 7:06PM
Hi Brandon - the thing that always surprises me about kayaking to Kalalau is how quick you get there (esp. when the Trades are pushing you). The paddle takes about 1 hour if you don't stop. It's mainly a summertime trip due to raging winter surf. You still require permits if you want to camp. Kayak Kauai, Na Pali Kayak and Outfitters Kauai offer day trips from Haena to Polihale (mostly downwind), where a shuttle picks you up and takes you back to your car.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Mar 30, 2010 7:07PM
Hi Sarakanis - I've seen people hiking with small kids but 7 months is quite young.
Mike
Mar 30, 2010 7:13PM
Hi,
I had a question about hiking the full 11 miles and overnighting in October this year. I'm looking on the state park website for camping permits and it says the Na Pali Coast State Wilderness Park is closed throughout October. Is it still possible to hike the trail and do I need a different permit?
Any help much appreciated!
--Mike
Mar 31, 2010 12:50AM
Me and my boyfriend are planning to do the 11 miles hike and spend there 2 nights. Where is the best place to stay overnight before we start the hike early in the morning (motel, camp etc.). And where we can leave the car so it would be safe. I've read somewhere that it's not recommended to leave the car by the trailhead.
Thank you very much for your answer.
Sarka
Mar 31, 2010 7:51PM
I got a camping permit for kalalau beach via the website. Do I still need to go to Lihue for the actual permit, since the printout is a payment confirmation?
I was also wondering if, on top of that, we also need a hiking permit.
Apr 01, 2010 5:33PM
Sarakanis,
there was a couple with an 7 or 8 month old on the trail when we hiked it 2 years ago. Their biggest challenges seemed to be keeping the sun off of the baby, (but if you had one of the sun-covers that sometimes come with the baby backpacks that may be helpful) and also it was hard for the baby to be in the carrier for hours on end. I don't know how used to the baby carrier their baby was or how much they had hiked with the baby beforehand so it's hard to compare. They did make it... but they did look very worn out on their return trip, and they returned after only one day, instead of 3, like they had planned, because they and the baby was miserable...
Just some information for you, hopefully helpful.
I hope you have a great trip and wonderful time on Kauai!
Apr 01, 2010 10:27PM
Hi all -
I'm looking at the online camping reservation system. I intend to do this hike (in and out) this June in a single day, but nonetheless understand that I need to get a permit for at least one night.
What reservation do I need to make on the reservation site? I see that availabilities are limited to only Hanakoa and Milolii at this time. As long as I am in possession of a permit for either one of these, will I get in trouble hiking on this trail?
Thanks in advance!
Brett
Apr 02, 2010 2:56PM
We\'re going to be on Kauai in mid-May and I was wondering about the practicality of just doing the first two miles of Kalalau by myself while my wife, daughter and daughter\'s boyfriend do the beach thing. Two years ago my beloved spouse was not enthused enough about the first mile of the Pihea Trail that I don\'t think I\'ll press the issue of her tagging along on Kalalau. :-)
Any thoughts? Recommendations? Validations?
Apr 06, 2010 11:17PM
Hello! My husband and I are planning to hike the trail in Mid - May. Can't find any information regarding Day - Hike permit. Does anyone know about Day - hike permit? Only thing I heard was you can't purchase it on -line reservation site - it's for camping only.. How much is it & where do you get it???
Apr 07, 2010 2:48AM
Hello. Maybe someone has some explanation for this. I tried calling several months ago to get permits. Was told I could not get them until April 1st when the online reservation system was up. Logged on April 1 to get the permit and it was booked solid. Pretty surprising considering I did it the DAY I was told I had to reserve. I looked at the online reservations and indeed there is no availability for the week I want to go but I have a hard time believing it all booked up the same day before I got online to reserve. Is there any hopes of getting a permit? Do they issue any at the office if you show up in person? I am beyond disappointed and irritated to the point if this doesn't go through I will enjoy my vacation this time to Kauai but will never go back. Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Apr 08, 2010 1:26PM
Hi all,
I am planning to do the Kalalau trail with another friend in mid of may. We are both experienced hikers and we are planning to do the 11 miles hike in one day, camp in Kalalau for the night, and next day hike the 11 miles back.
We are debating if we need a tent or not. Are any camping spots (caves, kiosk structures, etc) that you can put a sleeping bag and sleep and be protected from the rain?
thanks in advance.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2010 7:09PM
Hi Detroit - we don't have an explanation. This is the Hawaii DLNR providing poor customer service, and potentially affecting your otherwise amazing Na Pali experience. Personally, I would just go, permit or not. Bring a letter showing your efforts to get permits.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2010 7:10PM
Tracy - you are supposed to have a permit for day-hiking past Hanakapiai. If the DLNR cannot facilitate this permit and you have sincerely tried, you only options are to 1) not go or 2) go anyway.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2010 7:19PM
Michael - of course you should do the hike while they miss out.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2010 7:20PM
Hi Brett - get the permit and you'll be fine. I haven't seen a real ranger hiking the trail in years.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 09, 2010 7:27PM
Yah - apparently the DLNR is closing Kalalau this fall to deal with loose rocks (an impossible project).
Apr 10, 2010 2:12AM
MICHAEL : i say yeah,go for it, do the 1st 2 miles yourself, hang out at the mile 2 beach (Hanakapei) and rest up for the return trip. just dont swim in the ocean there, very dangerous ! depending on your physical shape, photo breaks,etc it should take you about 90 minutes each way. just make sure to bring along enough drinking water.
Apr 10, 2010 6:50PM
Mandy - I was wondering the same thing, so I contacted a DLNR worker who told me that the online payment confirmation serves as the permit; so you just need to bring that printout with you.
cheers.
Apr 11, 2010 4:40AM
Aloha Michaelis, it\'s possible to not bring a tent, there are a few caves at the end of Kalalau beach that will keep ya dry.
I highly sugest trying to stay for more than one night!
You\'ll have an amazing time though anyways just rememeber to Malama and clean up after yourselves!
-Manu
Apr 11, 2010 9:17AM
I just came back from hiking the trail. I hiked it right after a week of hard rain. The trail was very bad, the red mud section at mile 8 was 100% eroded away (I swung across on tree roots while crawling on my knees and using the big stick for leverage. and not looking down) and I did indeed cross the 6 mile river at waist height (with a big long stick.) Other hikers had more self-preservation and camped at hanakoa.
If the weather is that bad -- the river crossings are life-threatening. I was told this along the trail and I also talked to people who know of others killed or injured. If it has rained the night before you are planning to go on the trail, then expect it to be very muddy, and don't be sad to stay halfway. (you won't be alone!)
you do not really need a stove or a tent, because there are hippies who live at kalalau and provide fire and cover. however, having your own tent is nice. you also do not really need a permit, if you can't get one, because the state doesn't have the money to fly out helicopters and check permits very often. if you can't get the permit, don't let that stop you from hiking.
having said all that, the views were spectacular and it was completely worth it : )
Apr 11, 2010 7:23PM
I am so thankful to this website and all who share.I read every post and the tips are great. I am traveling for the summer to Hawaii and looking forward to doing the whole trail in the beginning of August. Wondering if anyone will be going during that time since I am traveling alone and would like to go with others. I will check craigslist and couchsurfing site also for fellow travelers. Any other websites anyone knows of?
Michele
Apr 13, 2010 5:30PM
Hi,
My boyfriend and I are coming to Kauai and Maui from April 24th to May 5th. We wanted to hike the Kalalau Trail when we first get to Kauai on April 25th but permits were only available from April 30th to May 2 which is when we were planning on travelling to Maui. I bought that permit anyway, but I was wondering how well the trails are patrolled. My idea was to just go the days we were planning on since I do have a permit, the dates are just wrong. Will there we spots to camp? What is the likelihood of being caught/punished?
Also, has anyonr done the trail lately, what have the weather/conditions been like?
Thanks so much! This website has been the most helpful tool for hiking info, you really can't find elsewhere!
Katie
Apr 13, 2010 5:58PM
Hello! My soon to be wife and I are going to be in Kauai for our honeymoon the second week in October. I saw a post about the DLNR closing Kalalau this fall to deal with loose rocks. When will they be closing it?
Also, I've seen a number of people recomend staying in Kalalau for as long as possible. Is there lots of stuff to do and see there? Snorkeling? Everyone is saying to be weary of the water? Should I really not bring my snorkeling stuff.
Apr 13, 2010 8:04PM
I am going to be in Kauai during the end of December and early January. My family and I were hoping to do the trail sometime during our trip, but I am not sure how the weather is during that time of the year, and if it is even safe to go the full 11 miles. If someone could please send me some info, or just let me know if it is dangerous to go during that time of year, that would be great. We are fairly good hikers, not anything extreme, but we hike mountains near our home in southern California (no sudden drops, or cliffs, more rough terrain, rocks, slipping alot etc.)
Thanks for your help
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 14, 2010 4:53PM
Hi Pat - you'll have to contact the DLNR regarding the closure. It's unclear exactly what they have planned. Kalalau is great for relaxing, hiking and exploring - but the snorkeling is not good because there's no reef, just sand bottom. You do need to be very cautious of the ocean.
Apr 14, 2010 8:45PM
We are a couple from Europe; The reasone we are comming to Kawaii for few days in May is Kalalau trail & our story is simmilar to \'\'Detroit\'s\'\'(april 07 2010).
Is there a chance someone cancels his/her camping reservation? Is it worth looking at the sistem every day or visit the Kauai\'s office when landing? Being under stress (because of not having a permit) while on vacations is the last thing we want; but comming so fahr for Kalalau, we can\'t miss it!
Aloha, M&B
Apr 15, 2010 7:06PM
TO KATIE : i would just do the trail when u want, and bring along the permits, just in case you encounter a ranger, then u could explain your situation. however it's very unlikely you will encounter a ranger. more likely that it will snow on Kauai. and there is plenty of room to camp. if you aren't sure about where to camp, just ask someone for advice once you arrive.
Apr 15, 2010 7:12PM
TO SELENA : i think Dec-Jan is part of the rainy season, but of course you could get lucky and encounter a dry spell and not have to worry about rain. see the post above by Sonia about trail conditions after heavy rain. you may want to spend an hour or so scrolling back on this site to read some posts about the physical effort needed to safely complete all 11 miles. remember most people carry backpacks (assuming they are camping a few nights) and that makes a big difference versus hiking w/out extra weight. spend the time and do the research, it will be well worth it.
Chrisanna Northrup
Apr 15, 2010 9:36PM
My husband and I are going May 6 - May 9th. Couple things I didn\'t see and I have questions about...
Sounds like the thing to do is hike the 11 miles and spend more time at the beach, can\'t recall the name. My husband and I are in excellent shape, so no problem there (although I\'m VERY afraid of heights, but I did manage to climb half dome).
1. I haven\'t read much about trails off the main trail to waterfalls or scenic areas. Are there any stops along way or way back that we should definitely not miss?
2. My husband says there is a secluded beach that we can swim a 1/2 mile too. Again, I haven\'t seen anything about this. Do you know anything about this beach? The word deadly and ocean currents is used a little too much for me to swim a 1/2 mile in the ocean to a secluded beautiful beach, but I\'d love to hear about it : )
Super excited! First trip away without the kids!
Apr 15, 2010 10:22PM
me again. we are headed for 2 day 2 night hike starting on may 15th... can\'t wait!
still hoping for the folks who\'s been there who can recommend camp sites for your two nights... day 1 we will be starting ~ 2pm, i am thinking camping at the first beach ... day 2, i am thinking of camping at the 2nd beach... my thinking is pretty simple, but if you know of a secret spot please share it. thanks
willandkasi@gmail.com
Apr 15, 2010 10:49PM
We are planning to visit in late August and I am curious about swimming. I have read numerous warnings that this activity is not suggested, but it seems a shame to hike 11 miles and not take advantage of a beautiful beach. What is your opinion? Is ocean swimming something which should be avoided?
Apr 16, 2010 2:05AM
sharingfreely: You shouldn't have a problem finding a hiking buddy along the trail. I've always found people along the way to hike with when I went. I'll be going again this summer and have no qualms about hiking alone or with others. Everyone is very friendly and helpful. I'll be hiking mid-July. good luck, it the best! Kalalau justs takes your breath away, and then some!
Apr 16, 2010 9:56PM
TO CHRISSANNA : the only places (that i know of) to visit \'off the trail\' are Hanakapei waterfall which is 2 miles from the trail (at the 2 mile mark). beautiful waterfall and nice(cold) swimming there,but it\'s not a quick easy hike to get there as i remember, and then you\'d have to oobviously hike 2 more miles back just to get back to where you started from (the 2 mile mark of Kalalau Trail). i think it\'s best done as a separate day hike from the trailhead. i\'ve been to Kalalau Beach now 3x and trust me, if you\'re on a \'schedule\' w/limited time, you want to get to Kalalau Beach as quickly as possible to be able to spend as much time there( and in the Kalalau valley) as possible ! it\'s that magnificent ! there is another shorter \'side-trip\' available to Hanakoa Falls around mile 6 (i\'ve never done that one), i hear it\'s beautiful as well, but my advice above still applies. the secluded beach you were referring to is Honopu , which is \'around the corner\'(a few hundred yards i believe) from the big rocks at the far south/western end of Kalalau Beach. i\'ve thought about trying the swim before but i\'m not an experienced-enough ocean swimmer to safely attempt it, but it is absolutely beautiful. i\'ve seen it a couple times from a boat from maybe a couple hundred yards out. last summer when i was at Kalalau, a small group of 20-ish guys tried swimming there but got turned back after a few minutes when they swam into a school of man-o-wars (jellyfish) and one guy got a bunch of nasty cuts from the unlucky encounter. from \'research\' that i\'ve done , apparently if you\'re not familiar w/ ocean swimming, and you try the swim to Honopu and the current takes you past the beach, then you are in very very SERIOUS trouble. remember, there are no lifeguards on Kalalau. i\'d advise checking it out from a boat. then you can take some awesome pix,etc
Apr 18, 2010 12:38AM
We just got back from hiking the Kalalau Trail and Valley over a 3 day period. What an amazing and beautiful place. On another note, I am personally disgusted with the Hawaii DLNR. There is a ridiculously high fee of $20/night/person to stay in the park, yet there is not one bridge built to help cross the rivers, there are no blazes or markings along any of the trails, and there is nobody staffed to keep the camping areas orderly. For example - the two composting toilets at the end of the trail were covered in human feces and just plain repulsive. People reverted to using the sea caves along south side of the beach as the communal latrine, which made for pleasant exploring. This park is completely mismanaged, and I wonder where the fee money is actually going. Hawaii DLNR should be ashamed of the way they treat honest paying tourists, when there are literally hundreds of people in that valley that look like they have gone in and never left. Everyone wishing to explore that coastline should be treated equally, fairly, and with respect, whether they are an island resident or visitor.
Apr 18, 2010 1:19AM
Cecil,
There is a really strong undertow off the beach at kalalau. Don't get in over your head or you could be in trouble if the surf is big. I nearly couldn't get back in last time I went, and I'm a strong swimmer and a surfer.
Apr 18, 2010 6:57AM
Aloha Sarakanis, and anyone who has feedback on backpacking the trail with a baby...
We\'re planning to hike to Kalalau mid-June with our then 16 month old daughter, so please let us know how it goes for you! We live on Kauai and have hiked to Hanakapiai beach many times and to the falls as well. This would be the first overnight backpack for her. We carry her in a front pack and we\'ll plan to do the 11 miles in one day.
Apr 19, 2010 3:37AM
1 week from hiking time...so excited. Just wanted to echo what some others have asked: How are the trail conditions now? Anyone else been in the past week? I am hoping for some dry weather next Saturday.
Apr 19, 2010 6:55PM
Hi,
Planning on doing the entire trail in July (7/8 - 7/10) and want to see if 3 full days and 2 nights will be enough time to fully enjoy the hike? Also, what are the usual weather conditions on the trail during that time of year?
Thanks for your help!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 19, 2010 9:14PM
Yah - it's a shame how poorly Na Pali is managed. No love.
Apr 20, 2010 8:45AM
My hiking buddies and me are flying in April 29 and plan to take a bus to Hanalei, buy supplies, spend the night there, then take a taxi to the Kalalau trailhead early on the 30th. Wondering if you can suggest any inexpensive lodging for April 29th (the YMCA is booked up)?
Apr 21, 2010 12:51PM
Hi all,
So excited, my fiance and I are doing the trail on the 22nd May, sleeping overnight and then getting a boat (unofficially) back to Hanalei bay. Let me know if anyone else is hiking the full 11 miles on the 22nd!
See you there :)
Apr 21, 2010 2:20PM
Just paid for my permits for July online last evening. No problems with the website, happy to see it's online and working well as intended. I'm a bit disappointed that the DLNR charges a $6.00 "processing fee" in addition to the $15./night (which I have no problem paying). When I read the above post about the composting toliets being full and overrun with feces, I am really upset. I've been to Kalalau twice before and this has not been a problem. I can deal with dirty conditions (bring your own sanatizer), but this borderlines on outrage. Maybe the DLNR will clean the toliets up before the summer barrage begins.
Apr 22, 2010 2:47AM
Hitting the trail saturday with my wife, and praying for good weather/conditions.
we are planning on starting at sunrise, maybe even before with our headlamps on. How long do you think it will take a couple of in shape 28 yo's? mile an hour?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 22, 2010 4:52PM
Brendan - if you keep moving at walking pace the trail takes 4.5 to 6 hours.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 22, 2010 4:57PM
Hi Rick - YMCA is booked on the 29th. You might try camping at Haena Beach Park.
Apr 22, 2010 9:41PM
BRENDAY : took me & girlfriend about 9 hrs once and 8.5 the second time. that was with good trail conditions , and we took several rest/food/picture breaks along the way, and we each carried backpacks(25 lbs. for her, 35 for me) and we are mid-thirties and above-avg. shape. please let me know how long it takes you guys...just curious. the fastest we did the trail was one of the return trips, 7.5 hrs (not as many breaks, a bit lighter packs).
Apr 23, 2010 11:35PM
On the DLNR permit website, in addition to getting a permit for Kalalau, there is also an option to get one for Milolii. Where is Milolii, and is it worth spending a night there?
Apr 24, 2010 2:16PM
BRENDAN - I'm in my 50's, in good shape, and the last time I hiked to Kalalua it took me just under 7 hrs with lots of stops for pictures....stayed 9 days and came out, with a much lighter pack, in 6 hours. If you leave early in the morning and keep a steady pace, you'll get there in plenty of time. Whatever you do, soak it all in...it's a lovely hike.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 24, 2010 5:05PM
Audrey - Milolii is beautiful, dry and only accessible by boat.
Apr 26, 2010 12:43AM
Hi - we are going on our honeymoon in December 2010 ... I\'m very intrigued by this hike, though I have a feeling my soon-to-be husband will whine after a few hours in. That being said, if we hiked about three hours in and then headed back, is there plenty of beautiful sights to see in that time period? I absolutely love taking photos, so that\'s really what I\'m interested in going for.
Apr 27, 2010 3:30PM
Hey All,
Getting set to hike the trail this coming Saturday! Have been checking the forecast on CNN.com and The Weather Network and both are stating the likelihood of some sort of 'showers' over the weekend. Does anyone know what a rainfall on Kauai is like in April/May? Is anyone in the area now that could better describe the weather? I'm from Vancouver where a "shower" can last days before letting up.
Thanks!
Apr 27, 2010 11:54PM
TO KARI : after the first 2 miles you arrive at a nice beach (Hanakapei). in the winter, i dont know how much beach(sand) will actually be there due to the much larger surf levels, maybe someone else can comment on that. i've been there in the summer/fall and it's very nice but not swimmable(very very dangerous). depending on if you're carrying extra weight(backpack,water,etc) and your physical shape,camera breaks,etc, it should take you about 60 to 90 minutes to get there. many dayhikers continue inward into the Hanakapei Valley to the waterfall which is very nice,plus you can swim there (cold). it takes approximately another hour from the beach to arrive at the waterfall. however, the trail to the falls is not as 'easy' to follow as the 1st 2 miles to the beach. as i remember (i did it once), it can be easy to get a bit lost unless you're following someone who knows their way better. by the waythe falls are 2 more miles past the beach, so by the time you've arrived back at your car at the trailhead, it's total 8 miles. now, if you decide not to visit the falls and instead continue along the actual Kalalau Trail, that first mile past the beach is very tough uphill(mostly), and arriving at mile 3 is ( i believe) the highest point along the entire 11 miles of the KT. good luck !
Apr 28, 2010 12:18AM
We have our reservations for Mid-May. I am a little apprehensive; we are a mid-30\'s couple, reasonably fit, and fairly experienced at hiking, but we are not hard core trekkers or marathon runners. Ideally we can make the whole 11 miles in one day but we are not counting on it.
I do have a few questions/concerns:
1) Is it correct that there is no longer any camping at Hanakapi\'ai? We are thinking we\'ll either camp there the first night or at the Mile 8 unofficial site. It seems like Hanakapi\'ai might be ideal though since we\'d be less exhausted when we go through the dodgy parts after Mile 6.
2) Exactly how cold might it get at night? Will we definitely be okay sleeping with just thin sleeping bag liners? I\'m looking at maybe buying us these: http://www.backcountryedge.com/marmot-trestles-trails-08.aspx
3) Is one hiking pole ideal, or two? There doesn\'t seem to be a consensus on this. I have poles but my girlfriend doesn\'t; I\'m wondering if we can just share mine or if she should get her own.
Great site, love reading all the comments!
Apr 29, 2010 3:26AM
I'm heading out on the trail tomorrow afternoon. It's going to be a good week! "Showers" on all the islands will happen, however it can mean a few minutes of rain to a downpour like you've never seen before. This part of the Kauai get's more rainfall so expect to see rain at least once a day (or not more). I'm planning on both sun and rain. No matter what it'll be a good trip!
I'll be on the beach (Kalalau) till Tuesday so maybe I'll see you there Brandon?
I'll give an update on my trip when I return.
Apr 30, 2010 12:36AM
I have a permit for the Hanakoa Campsite. however, I would like to hike to the end of the trail. Is this allowed, or am I only allowed to hike to the 6 mile mark?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 30, 2010 5:08PM
Hi Adam - as long as you have a permit the rangers are lenient. It's unlikely that you'll even see them.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Apr 30, 2010 5:10PM
Aaaron - there is no camping at Hanakapiai. It does not get that cold, but you'll appreciate a tent and at least long sleeve / sweatpants. Personally I don't use poles, but most of the hikers that do use two.
May 02, 2010 1:00AM
hello everyone! we\'re back from the hike of a lifetime, and a week later my ankle is still swollen to prove it!
the trail was everything i hoped it would be and more. just to clarify from my earlier posts, it took us (in shape 28yo) 7.5 hrs on teh way in and roughly 8 on the way out (muddy, injuries slowed us down)
we started at dawn on saturday with a 30 poun pack on my back and roughly 25 for my wife, and that included 2L of water each. (you can treat h20 at several points along the way). It was gorgeous condtions for hiking--not too hot or sunny yet, and a nice breeze along the ocean. first 3 miles had mud, but not too bad. The first 2 miles are steep but pretty easy b/c the trail is wide and well worn. plus, i had doen that part before so knew what to expect. Mile 2-3 is steep and the view at \"the gate\" mile 3 marker is stunning, especially in the early morning light. made a great place for a protein bar stop. after that the hike leaves teh coast and goes into \"jungle areas\" or so I call them. It has to be 10 degrees hotter and more humid when you leave the coast...it kinda sucks. after more climbing and descending you are at Hanakoa, mile 6. Pretty unremarkable, i wouldnt camp there unless i had to. 6 miles took us 3-4 hours with breaks. not too bad.
lunch was on an island in the middle of Hanakoa stream, which was very crossable. I ddint even take my shoes off, I just stayed on dry exposed rocks. This reminds me to make the most important suggestion I can to any of you planning thsi hike--GET TREKKING POLES! They are an absolute lifesaver on downhills and stream crossing/rockhopping. I litersally cant imagine doing thsi without them. everyone I saw with an old stick looked like they were working much harder than me to wield it and had a much less reliable instrument. and unlike some others, I recommend using 2 poles. Really helps you on downhills (you can use then sorta like a pole vault to softly lower yourself when knees get tired).
anyhow, back to the trail...we ate packets of tuna fish with craisens mixed in for lunch at Hanakoa (a wonderful choice in my opinion--very packable and minimal to no preparation required), then set out for the \"cliffy\" section from miles 6.5-8.
I was worried about this section ahead o0f time. I am afraid of heights. I literally had a contingency plan in my mind that it was OK to turn back at mile 6. Ha! It was way easier than expected. barely got my nerves up. the trail is solid in all places and is actually mostly flat here. just walk in a line and use those trekking poles in case something gets loose, and you are OK! we met Bill around 8 miles, who has a camp set up. he hunts goats (which are actually pests b/c they cause the erosion you see by eating all the grass away) and plants native species of grass that are actually supposed to be on this hillside. Plus he built that helipad at mile 8 by moving over a ton of dirt and rocks in a wheelbarrow he lugged up there all the way from Ha\'ena. amazing work. we gave the guy some money, and I suggest anyone does the same. He leaves for about a week at a time and goes into town to work odd jobs to pay for supplies, which he is donating, along with his time. truly selfless work.
after the cliffy section the trail gets a bit boring and you enter more jungle area. my memory of this section is foggy b/c this is where my wife sprained her ankle. not a good place with 2 miles downhill to a beach, not to mention the hike back. Thank god for 2 guys on the trail and thier ace bandage.
Red hill is a beast, especially coming back up, but the end is in site. The last stream crossing is the most perilous by far. had to take off shoes and all for this one. it will depend on h20 levels however. the beach is gorgeous as is the small waterfall shower. one of the most unforgettable moments of my life coming out of the surf on kalalau beach and looking up at the NaPali.
final thoughts:
1. get trekking poles. two of em. absolute lifesavers for me.
2. first aid. definitely under-represnted on this site, but as a physician I feel that it needs to be emphasized more. the risk of dying on the trail by falling off is low. the risk of serious injury elsewhere (ie fracture, serious sprain, GI infection) is quite high. definitely bring a kit with motrin (boy you\'ll need that at the end) and benadryl for allergic reactions. treat your water. and for god sakes remember ace bandages! its so easy to twist an ankle on those rocks!
3. spend more than 1 night for crying out loud. we didnt, and i regret it. you want the time to enjoy the valley, which i never got to explore, and your joints will thank you for the extra rest.
May 02, 2010 11:33AM
To Anonymous re April 18 post. Given your greatly exaggerated count "literally hundreds of people in that valley that look like they have gone in and never left" I have no idea how accurate your other claims are. Frankly, I think the idea of building bridges across the streams to make it easier for people to get to Kalalau would detract greatly from the hike itself, and certainly from enjoying a relatively uncrowded beautiful valley like the Kalalau. Those folks willing to meet the challenge of the trail as it exists today are rewarded with being able to enjoy themselves at the end of the trail without the hassle of crowds of "tourists." Though we are in fact counted as such, we prefer to FEEL like locals.
May 02, 2010 4:13PM
We plan to do the Kalalau trek mid August. Will there be camping equipment available to hire?
May 03, 2010 4:49PM
Any more reports on current trail/campground conditions? Anonymous\' report on the state of the composting toilets at Kalalau are disturbing to say the least, so I\'m wondering if someone can corroborate this.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 03, 2010 9:03PM
Aaron - the current state of Kalalau is not good. The State DLNR puts available funds into enforcement via helicopter. No rangers stay down there for any length of time. Officially they cite lack of funds, but it was like this prior to the downturn. The trail to Hanakapiai is in great shape, beyond that watch out.
May 04, 2010 4:50PM
We are hiking in on May 16th, '10. We already have a 3 day permit. Both experienced backpackers from the Pacific N.W. Any suggestions on what to pack and what to leave at home? Any camping gear we bring must be packed in our lugauge so want to pack light.
Boots vs hiking shoes? Poles? Sleeping bag? If we bring a water filter, is there water sources? What kind of weather should we plan for?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks
May 04, 2010 5:31PM
Brendan - thanks for your account of the trail! Great advice on the first aid and trekking poles. After much debating, you've convinced me to get a pair.
May 04, 2010 7:42PM
People seriously need to READ more on the previous comments...it\'s all spelled out very clearly. I feel the Kauai Explorer Staff is extremely patient with all the repetitive questions. Scroll up people!
May 04, 2010 11:06PM
TO SCOTT : i\'ve done the hike 3x (twice in, once out).definitely pack as lightly as possible. for my hikes, we packed once for a 2 nite stay and the second time for 5 nites. average pack weight was about 23 for my girlfriend and 35+ for me. our tent both times was a bit heavier than an average tent (i carried it) so that added about 3 extra lbs. remember it\'s lots of up/down hiking in warm/humid weather so every little bit counts. boots vs. shoes ... i guess it depends partly on how much weight (and how much you weigh) you\'re carrying. a post up above mentioned that past mile 2 trail conditions are currently relatively bad. so if i was going soon, i would make sure to wear footwear w/newer reliable tread. some of the sketchier parts around the cliffy sections (miles 7+) are dry and \'gravelly\' (and of course quite narrow) ... easy for your foot to slide. i\'ve always worn medium-duty hi-quality hiking boots but possibly heavy-duty hiking shoes (w/good tread) would suffice. you can buy extra camping gear (if your budget allows) at Walmart in Lihue, or a couple small outdoors shops (rent also) in Hanalei. i\'ve never used poles but many people like them. i personally like to have both hands/arms always \'free\' in case of a slip or just for balance, but that\'s just me. girlfriend feels the same. but i do understand that using poles properly definitely transfers a bit of the wear/tear from your bottom half to your upper. seems to me though, that a majority of the trail is so narrow/tight that it would be tricky to constantly securely plant your poles. sleeping bags... it can get a little chilly at night, but alot of people get by wearing long-sleeve top and maybe just throwing a light blanket over body. but many people use bags. in my experience(and many others i\'ve heard) a sleeping pad is very very important. regarding water/filtering... i start out carrying a couple pre-filled bottles then refill/filter at the streams (miles 2 and 6, plus maybe another small source, i don\'t remember where). then there is the final stream right before you enter Kalalau valley/beach. once you are at the campsite/beach, you can fillup (then treat/filter) your container at the waterfall. don\'t stand too long directly under the waterfall since loose rocks can fall from above right on your head ! i packed a large (several gallons) collapsible water \'jug\' and we only had to fill that (from the waterfall) once or twice for the whole stay. and it is very light. have fun !
May 04, 2010 11:15PM
Me and a buddy hiked the Kalalau trail from 4/23 - 4/26/2010. So interesting to reread this blog and all the varying comments, which in my opinion, all have validity depending upon your perspective. I will do my best to offer a clear and concise description of our journey.
First of all, my buddy and I are both 42 and in pretty decent shape. Certainly not like we were when 20, but fit, strong and healthy and accustomed to reasonably challenging outdoor physical exertion.. We planned to camp one night in Hanakoa and two nights at Kalalau. Our biggest mistake was packing too much weight! Roughly 50 pounds each including fuel, food and water. It was wayyy too much weight. If you ignore everything else I say in this review, don\'t ignore this bit of advice. You need to find a way of getting your pack down to 25 or 30 pounds if you want to enjoy this hike. And it is NOT about the actual \"weight\", but totally about your balance and center of gravity. You will be navigating tricky hills, long step-ups, long step-downs in both wet and dry stream beds, semi-steep gravelly downhills, and tight terrain with towering cliff-sides less than a foot from you and your pack in many sections. Having a gigantic, fat pack strapped to your back really makes this very uncomfortable and unsettling to say the least. We both had nice trekking poles and while they were immensely helpful throughout, they weren\'t enough to make up for that wobbly, off-center feeling we had when taking big steps downhill and our bags brushing against the cliffs with massive drop-offs. It seems hard to imagine packing all the \"necessary\" gear including several days worth of food and fuel and being under 40 pounds, I realize that. But rest assured, you don\'t want this much weight for this hike. Find a way to significantly reduce your pack weight or you will not enjoy this hike. Through giving/trading some gear with the locals, lessening how much water I carried between streams, and eating all our food, I managed to reduce my pack to about 32 pounds for the return trip and it was like night and day. Set a goal of 30 pounds max and you will be thankful. 20-25 pounds is doable and would be ideal for a multi-day trip.
Now, onto the trail itself. Forget about any relaxing, flat straightaways or wide dirt trails. They don\'t exist on this hike. Until the last mile, you\'re either going up, or going down the entire way. The trail alters between wet, muddy, and dry stream beds and goat trails throughout until mile 9. The comments about \"5 inches wide\" are indeed accurate in the sense that the goat trail is about that wide (where your feet land). To the left and right there are plants growing maybe a few inches, but that\'s it - you don\'t want to be stepping in these areas - you want your feet landing on that thin goat trail for sure. On your way out, to the left is the cliff, maybe a foot away from you...and to the right...in many places, a fall you won\'t likely survive. The fact that nobody has every fallen and died is remarkable IMHO. One careless step in many spots would pretty much do it. I asked one of the regulars at Kalalau abou this and he said \"none that you know of anyway\"...ha!...and I tend to believe he\'s right.
Now, that being said, I was never afraid or even worried about falling. I was very careful about placing my poll and then foot, one after the other throughout. In fact, if I could summarize the hike in general, I would say that I spent the entire hike looking at the trail ahead of me and my feet throughout - eyes down and concentrating. From my perspective it was perfectly intense and really made me feel alive, right here, right now. Hiking the trail is definitely not a \"mail it in\" kind of day. You are focused and concentrating on cleanly planting your feet most of the way. It was fantastic! And don\'t feel put off, there are plenty of opportunities to stop and soak up the fabulous Na Pali coast views.
Now, as far as camping goes, I highly suggest you skip Hanakoa Falls. We stayed there and were disappointed. It had recently rained and all the decent camping sites were muddy. This place is not maintained in the least. There is a composting toilet and a single pavilion with a picnic table under it. Other than that, absofookinlutely nothing to see, or do here other than fill up your camelback and move on. I recommend planning to hike all 11 miles in one day.
As far as our speed, with 50 pound packs and a careful pace, we were making between 45 and 55 minute miles. On the return trip, we were closer to 35-40 minute miles with the 30-35 lb packs. 55-minute pace miles are pretty frustrating to say the least. With 30 pound packs I believe most anybody with some hiking experience can average 40 minute miles, with 2 or 3 snack breaks of 15 minutes and a lunch break of maybe an hour you should be able to knock out all 11 miles in about 9 hours comfortably. With less weight and higher confidence, a 6 hour hike is realistic but if it is your first time, I wouldn\'t plan on knocking it out that fast.
Rain...I don\'t know how many have been out on these trails when it\'s raining but I sure wouldn\'t want to hike some of these sections when wet. In addition to the slick-rock stream beds and crawlers ledge sections, some of the streams running through would be impassable in my opinion. Hiking this trail in the rain would not be any fun at all. Having not done it, I can\'t offer much advice but me and my buddy agreed that if it were to rain heavily, we would have to stop and wait it out.
I agree with all the others who suggest an early start too. Hiking between 6am and noon is far more pleasant than the afternoon hours. Get as early a start as you can for both legs and you\'ll enjoy it much more.
Kalalau is a fabulous hike but be prepared for a hike unlike most any other you\'ve ever done. Sierra Club doesn\'t rate it a 9 out of 10 in difficulty for no reason. It is a difficult and challenging hike but anybody can do it if they are prepared. Heck, we saw a hippy with a stick pass us by in bare feet!
Bottom line, if you have a fear of heights or a fear of death, skip this hike. Truthfully, there is nothing to fear but fear itself. That being said, if you are fearful, you will likely be miserable on this hike. It is for the adventurous type who enjoy feeling alive. This hike is nothing like all the well-maintained wide, soft, dirt trails on the West side of the Island in Waimea Canyon. Kalalau is as close to a wild Hawaiian nature experience as you can get.
As long as you understand what you\'re in for, you\'re going to love this hike. I will return for more some day.
PACK LIGHT MY FRIENDS!!
May 05, 2010 6:27PM
Here's my preliminary clothing list (not including what I'm wearing on the way in - shorts, t-shirt, socks, underwear, hiking shoes):
- tevas
- rain jacket
- fleece top
- polypro long underwear top
- polypro underwear bottom
- t-shirts (2)
- swim trunks
- convertible pants
- underwear (2)
- socks (3)
- bandanna
- sun hat
- camp towel
Can someone give me a critique? Is that too much, too little, or about right? All of the items are lightweight (no cotton). We will be on the trail in mid-May (if that is a factor).
May 06, 2010 2:04AM
KES: you commented about the current state of Kalalau not being in good condition. What exactly are you talking about? The toliets? The lack of enforcement? And by "downturn" are you referring to the economy? I'm curious if anyone on your staff can give any more information to those of us that live far away and depend on this site for relevant information for purposeful trip planning. It is the best site I've ever found on internet. thanks much.
May 08, 2010 2:07PM
We hiked the trail last Wednesday May 5th to Hanakapiaia Beach and the falls. In August 2008 we hiked to the beach and back. The first two miles are in good shape, but muddier than I remember (it rained often during our week in Kauai). Also, they have cut down a lot of trees on the ocean side of the trail which makes the hike a little hotter with more sunlight and provides more picture taking opportunities along the way. The two miles to the falls were very muddy for the first third, then in great shape the next third and the last third makes you climb and scramble over boulders. We started right before 8:00 a.m.and were back in our car by 3:00. This allowed time for pictures along the way and two stops at the beach and a stop at the falls. It can get hot, so brings lots of water
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 08, 2010 5:03PM
Hi Julie - the truth is that Na Pali is one of the most amazing places in the World. It's also one of the most mismanaged. The hike is so tough, and the reward is that you get to hang out at a large beach with camping in caves (summer), exploring in the valley, and amazing nights. You will also encounter people hanging out and doing nothing but taking, dangerously dirty toilets, helicopters destroying the peace, and unmaintained trails. If the DLNR was a private business, they would be out of business.
May 09, 2010 2:09AM
My boyfriend and I just hiked the trail the middle of April. We were lucky enough to have mostly dry weather on our hike in. We were each carrying a lot of weight (45 lbs and 35 lbs) knowing that we were staying 5 nights. About 15 lbs of our weight was dehydrated meals (Lipsmackin Backpackin cookbook). Eating delicious food was worth the weight. We really took our time, took a lot breaks and really appreciated as much of the beauty as we could. We averaged about 1 mile an hour.
We camped our first night at Hanakoa. Lots of mosquitos but we were prepared with a really good repellent and didn?t suffer at all. It is a beautiful and lush area not to be overlooked if you have the time. The hike to the falls at Hanakoa is relatively short and well worth the time. We had the pool completely to ourselves and took advantage of the opportunity by skinny-dipping. A little on the cold side, but exhilarating!
If you are interested in building a fire at mile 6, I would set up camp after crossing the stream (on the way in). There is a lot more dry wood. The only down side is you will have to cross the stream to use the bathroom. Be sure to take your own biodegradable toilet paper.
The infamous miles 6 - 8 did prove to be pretty tricky, but were not as bad as I had imagined. Like everyone says - just take your time and watch your footing. On the way in I kept waiting for it to get worse and it never did...thank goodness. On the way out it wasn?t nearly as bad but we were dealing with pretty gusty winds that were knocking us around quite a bit. At least the winds were pushing us into the cliffs and not away!
On our second day we made it to Kalalau Beach (after descending the red hill from hell). It was absolutely breathtaking!!! We were lucky enough to get a campsite located between the latrines and waterfall (shower) with a beautiful view of the beach from our tent. There was also a great place to hang the hammock. We spent 3 nights in this great location. There was plenty to do -- relax on the beach, explore the caves, take lots of pics, hike up to Big Pool (a little tricky), gather firewood, talk with fellow campers and residents.
On Saturday night everyone was invited to the bonfire and potluck. There was a lot of great food mostly made by the ?hippies?, including a delicious cake. I was able to take 3 dishes because I had packed a couple of extra dinners. If you are invited, meat dishes are a big hit. The hippies are very interesting to talk to, however, I do question what they contribute to area and the trail.
Our hike out was a little rainier and more slippery. Again, we took our time and our trekking poles were a big help.
We had the opportunity to talk to Bill Summers (3 year resident) and Daniel (3 month resident) at mile 8. We saw evidence of the work they were doing between mile 8 and 9. Nice guys doing a great service to the trail and the people who use it.
This site was a valuable resource in the planning of our trip. I read it from the very beginning. If you take the time to read, there are very few questions that haven?t been answered.
I would do this hike again tomorrow...no question!
May 09, 2010 2:25AM
Aaron - I guess it depends on how long you are staying but I think it is still a little too much even for a 5 night stay. I would take the rain jacket - forget the fleece. If you are chilly you can wear the jacket. Besides what you are wearing take one extra of tshirt, socks and underwear. You can wash what you wore in, let it dry then wear it out. If it is lightweight it will dry fast. I would change the list to:
- tevas
- rain jacket
- polypro long underwear top
- polypro underwear bottom
- t-shirts (1)
- swim trunks
- convertible pants
- underwear (1)
- socks (1)
- bandanna
- sun hat
camp towel
It may seem minor, but every ounce counts on this hike. My opinion...your choice.
May 09, 2010 3:08AM
Hi all,
I would love to hike the Kalalau trail but I'm not arriving in Kauai until September 7th. I believe that they are closing the trail around that time. The only campground that is available is Miloli'i. I've heard that Miloli'i is only accessible by boat, but where exactly is it? Is it at the end of the Kalalau trail? Is it possible to rent a kayak from someone at the end of the Kalalau trail to get there? Is it possible to get there using a blow-up raft?
Ideally, I would like to hike the trail on Septmber 7th, sleepover at Miloli'i, and then hike back on September 8th. Is this feasible?
Thanks so much for the help!
-Deanna
May 09, 2010 4:28PM
Tammy -
Thank you very much for your feedback - I will heed your advice. Between the polypro long underwear top and the rain jacket I should be fine without the fleece.
Still, as someone who always likes to be prepared, it is painful making these decisions!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 09, 2010 5:46PM
Deanna - Milolii is about 4.5 miles pas Kalalau. There are no kayak rentals at the end of the trail. The only option is to Kayak from Haena to Polihale. Also, September could be calm or it could get some early season NW surf. What you're considering simply is not possible.
May 10, 2010 12:39AM
Aaron - I would agree with Tammy but take it one step further. Having just done the hike, I would suggest this list:
- tevas
- rain jacket
- t-shirts (1)
- swim trunks
- convertible pants (1)
- socks (1)
- bandanna
- sun hat
- camp towel
And of course, you\'re wearing a t-shirt, pair of socks and convertible pants/shorts.
Underwear chaffs the inner thighs and just adds weight. Perhaps you can\'t conceive of going without, but the shorts are enough IMHO. And I can\'t imagine why you would want long underwear of any sort, especially in May. I was in Kauai 4/22 - 5/1 and the temperature range was exactly the same each day. High of 83, low of 70.
Do what you like of course. But I once again recommend trimming the weight you carry by every possible ounce and removing items that are simply unnecessary under all but the most unlikely scenarios. You can\'t possibly freeze to death in Hawaii in mid-May and you can wash your clothes in numerous streams and falls throughout the hike.
Cheers
May 10, 2010 4:11AM
KES,Great site...I want to do this hike this december,i\'m a guy 46 years old,want to do it alone,have hiked many trails.Is the Cliff section as bad as everyone says?and will i have any problems from locals if i mind my own business?can you get cell reception for emergency? need tent?clothing optional at Kalalau beach?please respond to my email if possible....Mahalo!
May 10, 2010 8:18AM
I Have hiked trail plenty of times. The trail is always different, wet, dry, sunny, cloudy, windy, crowded, empty, etc. dont rush, pack lite (under 35#\'s) and dont cross rivers if its just rained heavily and your not an EXPERT. Wait, it means your LIFE!
Respect the trail, nature, and pack out your trash...and if you care, perhaps some other peoples trash too.
PS: Deanna- if you use a blow up raft to try to get to Milolii... you would probably end up drifting to Japan. Sayonara!
May 10, 2010 3:12PM
Hello!! My husband and I will be in Kauai for a week, starting May 15th. So , so excited about Kalalau trail, :)although, we won\'t get to camp out or anything... :-(
However, I checked weather and it\'s supposed to have Scatter shower thru out the whole week... It\'s pretty normal for Kauai weather in May, right? (please say yes) We can still have enjoyable hike with scatter shower, ?? hopefully.. :-)
We both are in our 30\'s and are in fairly good shape and love hiking, not super-experienced though.
Please advise. Thank you!!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 10, 2010 7:10PM
T Kim - scattered showers is just a safe, blanket forecast for Trade wind weather. It could be totally sunny, could be rainy.
May 11, 2010 2:01AM
Hello! Does anyone know why Kalalau Trail is closed On June 4,5,6? I called DLNR office and if I got the gentleman right the close is due to hunting (? in June?). Camping is not available on these days, and he says that there was an announcement. I don\'t see it anywhere on http://www.hawaiistateparks.org site. The three days are the only days that we can spent on Kauai, and it appears that Kalalau Trail is off limits for us. Our original plan was to obtain a day use permit and hike the trail both ways in one day. We believe it is doable since we hike regularly and had done Grand Canyon - down and up - in one day a few years ago. What other hiking options do we have? Please advise. Thank you!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 11, 2010 2:15AM
Yo Dave - the cliff section does not bother me but seems to freak others out. Most of the locals at Kalalau are cool, just keep to yourself. Cell phones don't work. I always bring a tent.
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 11, 2010 2:16AM
Vera - who knows what the DLNR is up to. Customer service is not their priority.
May 12, 2010 12:32AM
Aloha Everyone..what an awesome site, I?m so glad to have found it.
I\'ve hiked Kalalau trail at least once a year for the past 10-12 years, usually alone.
(I went twice one year - the time I went on 14 Feb (quite by accident) and never heard the end of it!)
I can not imagine NOT going and look forward to it each year with as much excitement as ever. Here are my
observations, in no particular order. I hope some will find them useful. (I tried to make this post as short and
readable as possible, but it ended up longer than I?d hoped for ? sorry)
1. Everything KES says is right on the money. Listen to him/er. I do wish the question about whether or not one
can park at Camp Naue will be settled once and for all.
2. Moleskin/medical tape on feet hot spots is a very good idea. I would not hike without ankle length boots. There is virtually no flat part of this trail and you?re going to hope to never see another tree root or slippery rock by the time this is over. Just accept that your boots are going to get wet and muddy.
3. Hiking sticks (two each) are absolutely essential for me. They have literally saved my life more than once. I usually find some by the trailhead or close thereabouts. Don?t know how trekking poles would work out.
4. I only saw a centipede once, at a Hanakoa waterfall. I know they are around, but I don?t stress about it.
I\'ve been bitten at home (once) more often than when camping (never).
5. I\'ve used the Katelyn water filter without incident. Their website claims it is effective against giardia, cryptosporidium; all bacteria. Don\'t know about Lepto. I bring a plastic, collapsible 5 gallon container for use
around camp.
6. Coming from Oahu, getting from the airport to the trailhead has always been a trick. I eventually settled on
the most expensive but convenient option - car rental. I have parked at Ke?e trailhead mostly, and was only
broken into once. At least the thief was skillful and considerate enough to not damage the rental car as he made
off with my stuff. I?ve also parked at Haena campground which gives me a little more peace of mind, although it
does add two miles to your hike overall. I love the idea of parking at YMCA Camp Naue, if that\'s really true.
(is it?)
7. I try to get on the trail by 10 am and, at my pace, am lucky to get to my campsite at Kalalau by dusk (7-ish
during summer). Only once was I way behind schedule and stayed the night at mile 8 (helo pad). It\'s easily two
more hours from there.
8. On the return, I try to break camp and hit the trail about 430-500am. This allows me to attack Red Hill just
at sunrise. A headlamp is essential across Kalalau valley in the pitch-black darkness. This also allows me ample to get back to the trailhead, and prepare for the flight back to Oahu.
9. The \"scary\" part of the trail is certainly manageable by the vast majority of hikers. In fact, if you make it that far, there?s no reason you could not make it around that point. Take your time, watch your step and enjoy the journey. Don?t forget to stop hiking every now and then, and just look around you and take in the
spectacular views.
10. I got my permits online last week for this July (23-26 \'10). They cost 15 per night for residents (20 otherwise), which is a five dollar increase from last year. I wouldn?t mind the cost of this adventure if I felt the money was actually going into park maintenance. This doesn\'t appear to be the case. In addition to a payment confirmation email notification, you are also prompted to download and printout a .pdf that serves as your actual permit. The online experience was rather painless and an improvement over having to go in person with cash in hand, even with the 6 dollar online usage ?fee?. (What an insult.) However, coordinating camp permits, car rental and airline reservations is actually possible now, thanks to the miracle of the internet!
11. In all my years of doing this, I have: a) always gotten a permit; and b) never been asked to show it.
12. I enjoyed the movie \"The Perfect Getaway\", but the only actual views of the \"real\" Kalalau Trail are in the
first few minutes of opening credits. Don\'t let this film influence you in any way concerning this remarkable
place.
13. Sadly, I\'ve been reduced to picking up several cans of Sterno (canned heat) at the Lihue Wal-Mart on the way
in. I love my WhisperLite and titanium fuel bottles, but ever since Hawaiian Airlines disallowed these in my
checked luggage, I\'ve just left them home. Yes, cooking?s slower, but then, what else are you going to do other
than sitting around in paradise and watching water boil? Mountain House freeze dried meals rock.
14. Summer or Winter? I\'ve tried it both ways. Summer generally gives drier conditions and a longer, hotter day.
But it also brings more people; i.e. kayaks. And, kayaks (potentially) can bring inconsiderate campers with
larger payloads which, unfortunately often gets left behind as trash. Winter brings shorter, wetter days, more
treacherous ocean conditions, but less crowds. It also brings more wildlife (think monk seals, whales and
dolphin). So, pick your poison.
15. I pack as lightly as possible (not getting any older here). Lightweight tent, no bag, air mattress. Just
sleeping in sweats and beneath a bed sheet works for me. I wear very little clothes (if any) while hiking or
around camp. But, as usual, be safe and prepared for the unexpected in terms of essentials (first aid, etc.)
16. I bring a paperback novel and reading lamp.
17. Make every effort to discover Big Pool. It\'s a couple miles into the back of Kalalau Valley and well worth
the effort. The trails in the valley are tricky, so pay attention. You might not even find it without a guide,
or at least a good sense at reading a trail. Hint: make sure you come out before it gets dark. Last year, I
lingered at BP too long and by the time I found my way out, it was just getting dark. Another couple of minutes
and I\'d have spent the night in the valley!
18. If I had my way, I\'d move to Kauai and start a shuttle business, catering specifically to the needs of
Kalalau trekkers. An affordable, reliable transportation system for this market segment is sorely needed.
19. In most of my points above, your mileage may vary. This is just what has worked for me over the years, and
I?m still tweaking.
20. If I see you along the road this July, you can be sure I\'ll offer you a lift. Aloha!
May 12, 2010 3:24AM
DAVE : take a little time and scroll back a bit on this awesome site, there are several posts (answers to questions) about the cliffy sections. i've personally written a couple times in detail about the cliffy parts.
May 13, 2010 6:18AM
Okay, we're off to Kauai tomorrow!
One last question - pants or shorts? I'd rather hike in shorts to stay cooler, but would I be better off wearing pants to protect against vegetation and/or insects?
May 13, 2010 3:56PM
Hi All,
Thanks so much for a great website and great information. My wife and I will be heading out on Kalalau one week from today and we are wicked excited. I just have two questions: 1) When crossing the streams, is it best to just go across in hiking boots or is it better to change to watershoes or something? 2) When hiking into the valley, is it generally safe to leave tent and other gear at the beach or should we pack it up and bring it with us?
Thanks again for any and all help!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 13, 2010 4:55PM
Excellent post Dani - thanks!
May 13, 2010 7:57PM
Dan
i know the feeling--I wish i were going back in a week. To answer your question, i think it depends on your skill and conditions. when i went 3 weeks ago, 2 of the 3 major streams I could cross by rock-hopping. just kept my shoes on. My wife, who doesnt have as long of legs, had to take off shoes and wade. At the Kalalau stream, i couldnt cross and had to wade. Water shoes are very helpful for this, but certainly add weight. sandals are lighter but can pop off easier.
at the beach it seems everyone just leaves their things. after all, who's gonna take it and where will they go with it? But use common sense and dont bring anything expensive. The best thing I had was my camera, and I had that with me snapping pics.
anyhow, have fun, be safe!
May 13, 2010 8:46PM
Hey All,
I\'ve been reading this forum since I first developed an interest in hiking the Kalalau trail about 8 months ago, and even now I\'m still referring back to it after finally hiking the trail two weeks ago.
There\'s a lot of very useful information on this site, given free of charge by some well knowledged individuals. However, if I could offer one solid piece of advice from my trip to Kalalau, it would be to experience the trail yourself and make it your own.
Whether you require trekking poles and high ankle boots, or use a filter rather than purification tablets, these sort of details become quite irrelevant once you\'re on the trail and witnessing first hand the awe-inspiring Na Pali coast.
I won\'t attempt to downplay the intensity of the hike - the Kalalau trail demands your respect and is one of the harder hikes I\'ve attempted - It requires a high level of endurance if you intend to complete it within a day. However, having read the majority of posts on this site prior to my hike, I can openly admit that the experiences of others have the capacity to alter your own. For instance, there has been a lot of unwarranted hype about the exposed sections beyond Mile 6. This mile-or-so stretch of the hike is not any more difficult (or easier) than the remainder of the hike, yet every single person that I met along the trail made it their highest priority to ask about that section. This type of overhype or over-discussion about the trail can lead your imagination astray and may even spoil the chance to witness it yourself, first hand.
If you\'re enthusiastic about the Kalalau trail, I encourage you to set aside your inhibitions and just accept the trail for what it is. If in your experience, the trail is easier than you expected, you\'ve still hiked one of the most amazing landscapes in the world. If the trail turns out to be harder than you imagined, the sense of accomplishment once you reach Kalalau beach will be that much more euphoric.
Personally, I loved the trail because it WAS a challenge. If it turned out to be a Sunday stroll in the woods, I think I would have been severely disappointed. I can confidentally say that if you plan your trip in your own way, you will throughly enjoy the hike and all it has to offer.
Happy Hiking!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 13, 2010 10:31PM
Excellent advice Brandon.
May 13, 2010 11:09PM
DANI, dude excellent trip advice!
We\'ll be hitting the trails soon after we land after 2pm hopefully on May 15th, goal to set up camp somewhere (by the waterfall, bluffs, beach --- anyone has any good secret good camp sites that can recommend with in the 1st 4 miles of the trip?)... Next day May 16th, we\'ll casually make our way to 11 mile Kalaulau beach the next day and set camp there and enjoy the sunset and eat some salami and gummy bears then on Monday boogie back on the 17th. Oh yeah, is it warm enough these days that my wife and I can use just 1 summer sleeping bag as a blanket or advisable to bring 1 for each person... if you seem me on the trail, i wear be wearing a Texas Longhorns hat.. hook\'em horns and see ya on the trails!
May 14, 2010 8:59PM
My wife and I are making our final plans for a 4 night, 5 day hike on Napali and are excited. Thanks to all for your tips and I hope this is my last question. Are there good places on Kauai to buy camp food (e.g. Mountain House, other dehydrated meals or fixings). Bill
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 15, 2010 4:45PM
Bill - try Peddle and Paddle in Hanalei Town. Have fun.
May 16, 2010 3:35PM
Hi!
I'm going to Hawaii this summer (in August) with my boyfriend. We are both 25 years old. He's in very good shape and do lots of hiking.... I'm really not experienced in hiking but in an all right shape. Do you think this trail is safe and all right for me? Would love to do it, beacause it looks amazing!!!
Also, we would like to camp in Kalalau. Can we leave Kalalau by bus/car/taxi the nexte day or woul we have to hike the way back?
Last, is it possible to rent a tent somewhere in Ke'e Baech before the trail because we won't have one during the whole trip....
Thanks a lot! Can't wait to visit this beautiful island!!!
Annabelle
May 16, 2010 5:33PM
Which is less strenuous...the hike from Hanakapai Beach to the falls or proceeding up to one mile past the beach on the Kalalau Trail (to maybe mile 3 on the trail?) I have always wanted to get beyond Hanakapai Beach on the Kalalau trail to see more but wasnt sure it was up to it. I have been training for hiking the last few months so I can hike a lot on Kauai but I have not done a lot of hikes with a LOT of elevation change.
Stephanie
May 17, 2010 12:51PM
Hello,
We will be hiking the Kalalau trail May 26th to May 28th staying in Kalalau 2 nights. We are not bringing a tent, and were wondering if the caves are sufficient? Also, what temperture sleeping bag is recommended for that time of year? Is a 60 degree F ok for night time?
Thanks in advance!
May 17, 2010 5:29PM
My fiance and I want to hike this entire trail while on our Honeymoon this Sep. Neither of us are experienced with hiking but are both in our mid 20s and are in great shape. We are looking at getting some gear and have some questions.
What size pack is ideal for this trip? We will be camping at the end for at least one night so we\'ll need a tent.
Thanks!
May 18, 2010 1:11AM
TO STEPHANIE : it\'s 2 miles to go from the beach to the falls (then obviously 2 miles back). it\'s been about 3 years since i did the hike to the falls, but as i remember it wasn\'t very strenuous as in lots of up/down, it was just kinda tough at times to actually \'stay with\' the trail, as it wasn\'t clearly visible as the actual Kalalau Trail is. i remember a bit of \'scrambling\' here and there,etc ...... whereas,on the Kalalau Trail, the mile or so directly after the beach is mostly uphill (i believe the highest point on the entire KT is right around the mile 3 marker) so physically it\'s not easy,especially if you\'re carrying a moderately heavy backpack. the waterfall ,however, is a mighty fine \'destination\' offering (cold) swimming and a beautiful very large waterfall. good luck whatever you do !
May 18, 2010 1:40AM
NATASHA : i\'ve camped a couple times for several nites,in the first seacave (the larger one). each time i used a tent,but if i did it again,i would probably not use a tent (mainly to cut weight from my backpack). the only drawback to sleeping in the cave (that i can think of) w/out a tent, is that there is a little bit of water \'seepage\' constantly drops from the cave roof onto the sand (or your head) in various parts of the cave...so my point is, maybe you can get lucky and find a \'dry\' spot safe from drips for an 8-hour sleep, or else you may just need to prop something over your body and sleep under it .... one other thing about the caves, just a few yards outside the cave entrance, is kind of a \'danger zone\' where rocks fall from far up above (kicked down by goats !). usually the rocks are rather small (i\'ve seen up to softball-sized rocks hit the sand...do not linger in that area please !)
May 18, 2010 7:10PM
to DaveL: if you and your fiance are in good shape but haven\'t done a lot of hiking, best to start off your hiking career with gear that a pro would use. (i hate seeing people with lame and (especially) unnecessary gear)
1) use hiking sandals only unless you know you have weak ankles. the best are made in israel by \"source.\" i use the stream model with a pair of lite hiking socks. no boots, no anything else - just not necessary. take 1 pair extra socks in case you puncture your main pair badly. tevas nowhere near as good.
2) use *lite* hiking pants with whatever underwear you find comfortable underneath. you will not get any hotter and trust me it is just better. there is plenty of water around so no spares necessary. kalalau (the hike) is not a human-beauty-enhancing experience, so just don\'t worry about it.
3) i park at the trailhead and leave before 6am, but the point is just that leaving earlier makes it easier on you because the trail is a) cooler and b) less crowded in the early morning, which makes for a nicer start.
4) people generally leave sticks at the trailhead. take two (each) that feel comfortable, use whenever you feel it\'s a good idea. leave them if necessary along the way, you can always find something else in various spots. if you still have them when you\'re done leave them where you found them.
5) wear a light sunhat and take some sunscreen unless you have a deep tan.
6) use a cotton t-shirt (well, i do) and take a non-cotton long-sleeve shirt in case. yes it will get sweated out; you\'re not going to get very cold on this trail and it is just more comfortable that way. wash at some point if you like.
7) (now to your actual question) a smallish pack of good quality (eg. old dana bomb pack ~ 2500 ci or less) for both of you (2 packs total) is fine. get a light tent and decent small stove, iodine based water tablets, plus whatever food you guys like. don\'t succumb to the hype -- just eat what you like while hiking. (personally, i eat salted peanuts and jerky)
8) take 1 small roll of duct tape, 1 headlamp each, 1 small whistle, 1 swiss army knife, waterproof watch. maybe 2 bottles of water each, refilling/purifying whenever you like.
you can add a rain jacket, but in the hawaiian climate it\'s arguably not worth it. long as it\'s small/light, up to you.
if you go during may thru mid-september mosquitoes will be worse. but the lighter you pack the easier it is to keep moving which makes everything better.
side trip to the waterfall along the way is not necessarily worth it; feel free to skip if you\'re feeling like skipping it. (can also be nice, but, once in early april i was going that way in the morning and came across some largish wild boars...glad i had the sticks, though didn\'t actually need to use them)
overall, the kalalau trail is a pretty demanding hike as people say. you can indeed do the whole thing (in + side trip to waterfall + back out) in one day but it is punishing, so really only fun if you like going fast and know what you\'re doing; otherwise doing the whole thing in one go is misery.
May 19, 2010 9:29PM
Would a 30L pack be best or would a 40L be alright? I'll need to fit a tent in there so it can't be too small. Also this will be my only pack so it would be nice if I could use it elsewhere.
May 20, 2010 8:08PM
To DaveL:
I left you a long comment yesterday but apparently it got lost or was never posted. Since you suggest 30 or 40l... depends on whether both of you are going to be carrying a pack or not. If you think you are going to do a lot of backpacking in the future, and you might go somewhere where it will get cold and really inhospitable, you might think of investing in a quality pack that is on the larger side (like 80-90l -- you can always put just a little in it). else, get a smaller quality pack (around the size you are thinking is fine); it will serve you very well for a long time. they key is to get a high quality pack so it won\'t let you down.
That said, the key to hiking with smaller packs is taking less stuff. I generally have hiked the Kalalau trail non-stop (in/out, no camping) for various reasons, and use an underfilled old dana bomb pack (circa 1990). you could easily use the same pack and take a tent too, etc. if both of you will be wearing a pack, then you split the load with respect to certain items and share the burden.
You did not ask about what to put in your pack(s), but I would advise going light to the extreme -- no boots just hiking sandals (with lite hiking socks). no shorts just *lite* hiking pants (1 pair only). 1 cotton short-sleeve shirt + 1 non-cotton short-sleeve shirt. 1 pair comfy underwear + 1 spare. 1 non-cotton long-sleeve shirt. sunhat. basically, you wear almost everything you take with you as far as clothes; can always wash something if you like.
i do not use my hiking poles on the Kalalau trail, but rather take 2 sticks from the trailhead stock pile, and then leave them there when I come out.
May 20, 2010 9:29PM
First off, I really appreciated this forum for hepling me get ready for the hike.
My husband and I just did a 3 day / 2 night hike all the way. We are both in our 20s, he is very athletic, I'm more of a yoga girl.
We left at 1 pm, b/c of a wedding we attended before and planned on just seeing how far we got. We made it to the unofficial mile 8 camp where we were warmly invited to stay the night by the guy who has lived there for several yrs working on making the trail safer. We spent the next night in Kalalau, then the whole trek back the next day. B/c my feet were *completely* wrecked at this point by my Keens, it took about 10 hours.
Re: the "bad part." I don't even like to stand on a chair b/c I'm so terrible with heights. So on the way in, I cried several times, I sat down, I scooted on my butt, and my husband even doubled back a few times to carry my pack. I just KNEW I couldn't make it back through. But I did! And in about 1/3 the time without ever handing over my pack. (And barefoot for part of the time b/c it just seemed steadier) While I am proud of myself, I def recognize my limits now .. no more rocky cliffs for me. Just be very mentally prepared for this section if you prefer your feet at sealevel.
It was beautiful and the hardest thing I've ever done (physically and emotionally!).
Pack two types of shoes, at least flip flops to give your hot spots a rest. Our camelbacks were the perfect way to carry 3L of water each. Crystal Light packets will taste amazing and help you make friends. Bug repellent as my husband was eaten up. Motrin. Medical tape. A little cash for the unofficial trail-fixer. And less gear than you think you need! Kayak Kauai down the road stored our extra suitcase for a couple bucks a night.
Have fun
May 22, 2010 5:08PM
Thank you Dev for the information! I was wondering about the suitcases. We will definitely take your advice!! :)
May 23, 2010 1:35AM
Thanks for all the tips dave/david! I appreciate you taking the time to write that, especially since you had to write it twice!
I went ahead and ordered an Osprey Talon 44 pack and an REI quarter dome t2 tent. I kept going back and forth between the talon 44 and the Deuter Futura Pro 42, and actually I might still order the Deuter just so that I can try them both out in person, and then return whichever one I don\'t like. The mrs. hasn\'t ordered her pack yet but she will be carrying one and it will likely be less than or equal to mine in size. Hers will definitely be lighter in total weight.
You really take a stove and fuel with you? I guess I didn\'t really consider that due to the extra space/weight...we were planning on living on powerbars, etc.
Can you (or anyone else) advise on how to protect a rather expensive DSLR camera during the hike (with the river crossings and all)? I know this will be a large and bulky, \"extra\" item but there is no way I\'m doing this hike without taking some amazing photos!
Thanks!
May 23, 2010 2:04PM
Trip Report:
We just got back after spending a week on Kauai. (May 15-21)
We landed at 1pm and headed straight to the trail head, which is north on the only highway in town. In Kappa, which is just 5 miles north of the Airport in Lihue, are plenty of grocery stores for you to buy supplies (including a safeway)
Buy or bring lots of coolaid mixes.
We had some fresh fish tacos by the Light House before getting to the trail head around 3pm.
1st day was easy, coming down from Colorado 7400 feet, 2 miles to the beach and set a camp site was relaxing and easy. The trip started falling apart when I realized I left the salami in the car. Sunset was around 730pm.
Sunrise at 6am was beautiful with rainbows in the ocean and broke down the tent before 630am and the early morning sprinkle. Trail to the next camp site ~ 6 mile mark is up and down offering wonderful vista. No trekking pole is necessary.
It was just after 1pm when we got to what we call Death Valley ~ 7 mile mark where the the green is gone exposing a valley of loose rubble and goats scaling walls... the trail becomes a 45 degree 1 step wide graded mark in the mountain and that's when my wife decided she had enough and turned the other way.
I was no doubt disappointed and my spirit broken, but we went back and next day booked a 17 mile sea kayak trip down the Napali coast line and saw the rest + more that we missed.
I think if you want to do it, it's certainly possible, I saw 10 year olds in heavy backpack that did it. But the Death Valley or what the locals call it "Crawlers Ledge" can be unnerving... my best advice is keep going and don't stop and try to look it and figure out how to approach it because then ur mind is going to play tricks on you. Also pack light, and bring a trekking pole or find a stick for this portion. I say a 30 L back pack and 1-2L water with purification tablets is sufficient. Plenty sources of fresh water (there are streams and waterfalls every where including one just behind the beach in Kalaulau, it was beautiful.
Hope this helps
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 23, 2010 6:27PM
Yes many thanks to Dave and his quality posts. DaveL - I take my D700 hiking regularly in a pack with a simple sleeve. Nikons are very durable and you won't be going underwater.
May 23, 2010 7:02PM
I am planning on hiking (some of) this trail in June. I have tried before but could not find a parking spot anywhere, so I had to turn around :(
Any tips on how early I should arrive to beat the crowds? Any particular days of the week better than others?
Thanks.
May 24, 2010 9:29PM
@Jordan
We were there in mid-May and parked right on Ke'e Beach parking lot @ 3pm in front of the bathroom and shower (~ 20 yards from the trail head).
It really varies, more people go to the beach park for snorkeling and wading in the ocean than do the hike... so if you drive around a bit someone will pull out... there are also park lots 200 yards and 1 km behind the main beach lot and also another one at the dry cave ~ 2 km before trail mark... i think if you get there when people are leaving the beach or on a wet cold day, you are safe.... hope this helps
May 25, 2010 6:32PM
Thanks KES! So your "simple sleeve" for your D700 is not waterproof at all? Just a regular camera case? Hmm...maybe that will work for me too because I have a Nikon also. Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
May 26, 2010 12:24AM
Hi again Dave - my D700 is the 3rd Nikon DSLR I've had over the years. Been hiking with them in some very rainy conditions, boating too. Durability is one of the things I love most about Nikons. I do carry a dry bag - or at least a plastic bag - in case I have to swim or it really pours. But my main point is that some periodic spray or moisture will not kill the camera. It's more important to wipe it down and store dry after use.
May 26, 2010 1:54AM
Thanks again KES! I'll bring along a dry bag or a plastic bag as you suggest. I doubt my D5000 is as durable as your D700 but hopefully I'll still be good to go.
May 27, 2010 6:36AM
Hi! Two of us are doing the trail (in on June 20, out on June 24) and we\'re looking for someone to hitch with. Anyone want to take along 2 hikers in exchange for gas $$? Either or both days?
Or, if anyone knows of any other inexpensive options, please let us know! I just can\'t see paying $200 for a rental car that\'s just going to sit in the parking lot asking to get broken in to for 5 days.
Jun 04, 2010 10:03PM
Hi I'm Jacob. I've done the Na'Pali coast once before and loved it. Now I'm going back with my mom and sisters. I'm trying to find the contact information for the boat that travels out there, since they only want to hike back. Anyone have that?
Thank you
-Jacob
Jun 05, 2010 1:09PM
Hi Jacob.----There are no boats that can officially take you in or out of Kalalau. The surf at times can be extremlely dangerous, therefore, it is not encouraged or allowed for by legitimate businesses. Taking a boat is at your own risk.
Jun 08, 2010 7:02PM
I hiked out yesterday with my son, and the trail was in great shape all the way through. We made it in just under 7 hours with a trip to Hanakoa Falls for lunch and a stop to "talk story" with every other hiker we saw (much to my son's chagrin). Awesome day, with rainbows and dolphins and a nice dinner from the Koloa Fich Market after the long drive home. Pictures can be seen at the Facebook page for Kalalau Trail. http://www.facebook.com/?sk=2361831622#!/group.php?gid=47161793210
or on my Facebook page (Chuck Korb). You may have to friend me to see them, though (I'm an avowed technotard).
Jun 09, 2010 8:40PM
My girlfriend and I want to backpack the 11 mile trail in September. We are planning to do the entire 11 miles in 1 day, camp for 2 nights and then hike back. Is this a good plan? Also, we do not want to rent a car to get to the trailhead from the airport. What are our options? I heard there was a bus but doesn't look like it goes all the way to the trail head. Any info would be great.
Thanks!!!
Jun 10, 2010 1:37AM
First off, this is a fabulous information site...thank you for all your effort!!
Second, we are seasoned kayakers and plan to kayak to Kalalau and camp 3 nights. We plan to have the company we are renting kayaks from drop us off, but the pick-up price at Polihale is outrageous. Got any "offline" reliable pick-up people you can recommend who want charge us $100/pp for a pick-up and take back to Hanalei??
Jun 10, 2010 8:15AM
We would like to do the kalalau trail hike with my wife in June. We are staying on Kauai from the 15th to 23rd of July. i tried to make a reservation for the hike, but the dates were closed. Apparently only dates until the next month were open.
Is it possible to reserve the Kalalau trail hike for any of these dates now?
-Tuure
Jun 14, 2010 4:51AM
My wife and I are planning on hiking the Kalalau trail in 2 weeks, and although we have been preparing and reading up on it for quite some time, we still would greatly appreciate someone addressing these 2 questions about the infamous section between the 6.5 - 8 mile markers:
1. Since the narrowness of this section seems to make it the trail equivalent of a \"one-lane bridge,\" what do we do in case of two-way hiker traffic? Is there a right of way rule?
2. As of mid-June, what is the current condition of this part of the trail? (For example, has erosion made it even more treacherous that what was reported last summer?)
Thanks so much for any info/insights!
Jun 14, 2010 5:58PM
I would like to camp/hike the trail, but I am wondering what the safest months of the year are (and when the beach is not covered by surf) and what months are less populated by tourists. Thanks.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 15, 2010 5:50PM
The narrow section has been commented on too much in this forum. Simply put, some people will totally psych themselves out about it, others will walk on it no problem. Nobody has fallen off. I took my daughter on the hike when she was in elementary school.
Jun 16, 2010 12:40AM
People, please read the earilier posts. KES is very patient to post those poeple's posts that keep asking the same questions as previous posters. I am an avid reader of this post board, but come on! Do a little research first before you ask a question. Most have been answered on this board.
Jun 16, 2010 12:37PM
I hiked the trail last week with my son and it was in tremendous condition all the way through. It took us less than 7 hours with a side trip to the Hanakoa Falls and stopping to talk story with every other hiker we saw after Hanakapiai. We had beautiful weather, saw dolphins and rainbows, and, as always, had a magical time.
Jun 16, 2010 5:38PM
@ Julie: Totally agreed. Do your homework, people!!
Jun 16, 2010 7:16PM
For Julie
I thought I was the only one who read this post board often. I didn\'t make it all the way, but I can\'t stop thinking about the trail. The Kalalau trail sure does get in your blood.
Jun 17, 2010 2:23PM
To Nicole: I to am nuts about the trail. I only did half the trail one time, then went back and completed the entire trail a 2nd time. Now, I'm headed back in less then 3 weeks to do the trail again. I chose to go in the summer as the weather has a better chance of being clear, even if it's hot. I had a difficult time in the swollen rivers when I went in March '09 with all the rain. And it was extremely muddy, but you got used to the mud after the first 2 miles. It is magical and does get under your skin in a good kind of way. If you can, try and get back and complete the entire trail, it is quite different past Hanakoa. When I first walked out to Kalalau beach and turned around and viewed the cathedrals, it literally took my breath away-unlike any picture can ever do.
Jun 18, 2010 3:41PM
TO DANIEL : that's exactly what my girlfriend and i did our first time : hiked straight thru 1st day and camped 2 nites before leaving. i think that's a fairly common plan. the only comment i would make is, i can almost guarantee that once it's over, u will look back and wish u had been able to stay longer than 2 nites ! that's how we felt. so when we went back the next fall, we stayed 5 nites and 'did it right' ! (actually about 2 weeks would be 'doing it right' in my book !). so, what i'm also tryin to say is, if there's any way you can 'rearrange' your trip schedule to accomodate another nite or 2 at Kalalau Beach, u should absolutely do it !(IMHO). .....regarding your question about rental cars/drop-off, i can't help since both times i had a rental car and left it at the trailhead. good luck ! Tim
Jun 18, 2010 3:45PM
TO MARIEL : as far as i know, the busiest season for tourists is mid-May thru end of August(the typical summer/out-of-school season). of course, that's also when the most beach is available due to lower surf. i've gone twice the 1st/2nd week of Sept. and it was quite nice, not crowded but most of the beach was still there. as far as i know, the surf starts to pick up soon after that, but i dont know exactly when the beach starts to 'disappear' or when it 're-appears' in the spring....
Jun 18, 2010 3:47PM
TO DANIEL (again) : i forgot to mention in my first response, i heard that the trail will be shut-down for awhile sometime this fall due to some kind of maintenance work being done ... i don't know the exact dates...u might want to look into that if u haven't already...
Jun 18, 2010 7:23PM
Hello, fellow hikers! First of all, I really appreciate this site with all of the very helpful information and input from others. Thank you KES for creating this site! The earlier Jim M is my husband but he's been tied up this week and hasn?t read the input on this site yet but I read it today and decided to respond. Maybe the question about the 6.5 - 8 mile marker sounded similar to what others had asked in the past but we didn't mean to ask the exact same question. We are definitely a new comer to this wonderful site but I actually did read through most of the entries from 2007 until now before deciding to post the questions. I did not see anyone ask about the "Two-way-traffic" issue (especially if it's crowded) for the narrow section before. And we also just simply wanted to ask the current trail condition (We were not asking whether the trail was scary or not). I understand the frustration of some of the avid readers but hopefully the new comers will still be welcomed to sometimes ask silly or obvious or slightly different questions and receive some gracious responses :) I did this trail when I was a teenager and now coming back again after almost 20 years with my husband. KES staff and other more experienced readers, we do appreciate your patience and we're grateful for the input. We are totally excited to hike this trail! Fris, it is encouraging to hear that the trail is in "tremendous condition"now!
Jun 18, 2010 8:56PM
Julie and Nicole,I agree with you about how this trail somehow stays with you. Some part of the memory of the trail from my teen years are a bit blurry but I remember the breathtaking views. Look at me going back again after 20 years!
I read on the State Park website about the new permit policy which is interesting. I don't know what they mean by "public safety" but thought I'd share it with the hikers:
"NEW POLICY AS OF MAY 2010: In response to public demand and to promote improved public safety, beginning May 19, 2010, permits for Napali Coast will be issued for Kalalau only, the preferred destination at the end of the 11-mile Kalalau Trail. However, permits for Kalalau will also be valid for camping at Hanakoa, which is located a little beyond the halfway point of the trail, roughly 6 miles in from the trailhead. Permits specifically for Hanakoa will no longer be issued, but hikers are encouraged to stopover and camp at Hanakoa if they possess a valid permit for Kalalau and they feel the need to break up their trek due to such factors as fatigue, inclement weather, or impending darkness." (From the Na Pali Coast State Wilderness Park website)
Jun 18, 2010 9:35PM
Hey, wanted to share a tip with all who may have difficulty getting a ride to the trail head...I got a lift from guy who I found on craigslist. he dropped us off then came back three days latter to take us to the airport...on time I might add for 75.00 each way, Zack is his name he gave me his contact info: jaymezack@gmail.com
Have fun hiking!
Jun 18, 2010 11:49PM
Hello there. I\'m planning a trip to Kauai in a few weeks, am a woman in my late 20s and will be traveling alone. I\'m a decently experienced hiker (hiked up and down the Grand Canyon last summer in one day--intense, but fun). Which hikes would you recommend that would a)be more safe for a single girl and b)get the most amazing views. Thanks!
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 20, 2010 5:03PM
Kathy - I'd go for Hanakapiai falls. Lots of people, great views and promise me you'll hop in the waterfall. Bring lots of water.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 20, 2010 5:06PM
JES - we do encourage posts that answer new questions and our commitment is to improve the experience of all. So yah, we do get redundant questions but the goal is positive info sharing and we're stoked you're using the resource. There are not so many hikers that two-way traffic is a big issue, but if you do encounter other hikers there are plenty spots to step aside and let others pass. Have fun. Aloha. W
Kauai Explorer Staff
Jun 20, 2010 5:14PM
Yah Tim - DLNR has an $800K "rockfall mitigation" project planned for 2 months this fall. Anyone who knows Na Pali understands this is a ridiculous project that will probably do more damage than good. For 30 years we've known to avoid rockfall zones. The project is ludicrous. That money could pay for 2 rangers for 4 years (and some signs to warn people of falling rocks).
Jun 21, 2010 9:52PM
My boyfriend would like to do this hike as an overnight hike with a paid guide and rental camp gear. We are coming from Florida with only our boots! Are there any paid outdoor companies who offer this service and get the permits and what not?
Jun 23, 2010 4:34PM
Hi all. I just returned from Kauai, and since this forum was such a tremendous help in planning our hike on the Kalalau trail, I thought I?d share our experience. My wife and I hiked the entire 11 miles in on June 12 and the full 11 miles back out the next day.
WEATHER
We had great weather for the entire 10 days we were on the island and I understand rain was sparse for the week previous, so the trail was pretty dry and in general was in very good shape. Stream crossings were easy with low water flow, and only in the first 2 miles did we encounter some muddy spots. We started early both days (6am & 7am). We are from the Savannah, GA area, so we actually did not think it was all that hot and humid on the trail (85 with a sea breeze seemed ?cool? to us). Sure, the sun is more intense in Kauai, but the reality is that much of the trail is in dense forest, so we were not that hot. Just make sure you re-hydrate adequately since you will sweat ? a lot.
GEAR
We packed light. Major items included a 2 person tent, water purification system, inflatable sleeping pads, minimal spare clothes and light weight food (energy bars, nuts, crackers, etc) video & still cameras, plus the requisite safety items. With about 50 oz of water each, our packs were about 19 lbs (mine) and 16 lbs (hers). We hiked in TEVA Dozer sandals, which we liked since we could trudge through the water/ mud and just keep going. We brought aluminum hiking poles. On the way out we both felt that 2 poles was overkill and we stowed one pole on our packs (we found it was better to have a free hand for stabilizing over rocks or to take photos).
CONDITIONING
We are both fairly active and in our early 30?s. We both averaged about 10-15 miles of running/jogging each week of the year prior to the hike and have done some hiking in the past. I would not call us experienced backpackers, but we are generally in good shape.
TRAIL
Other posts have covered the trail ad nauseum, so I won?t restate the facts. Our experience was that the hills and switchbacks required some effort, but weren?t that difficult. We made it through the infamous ?scary? section after mile 7 without much problem. Yeah, the wind was howling, but each individual step was not that bad (though my wife might disagree with me on that one). One point to remember is, that if you are like us- and going down is more of a challenge than going up- then the return trip through the same section of trail is easier (since you are climbing UP the loose gravel instead of going down). Try not to let the anxiety of the return trip ruin your time a K-lau beach, since it is easier on the way back! Going down red hill at the end pretty much sucked, but the joy of being near the beach overcame the discomfort.
BEACH
We had a permit, so we camped in one of the designated sights near the waterfall. What a great spot. We explored the caves and enjoyed rinsing off in the waterfall. Like most other campers, we sat on the beach for sunset, which was just perfect. The surf was pretty rough so we did not swim at all, though some people were in the water. Overall, there were more people on the beach than we anticipated, but I think this was mainly due to the large groups of kyakers that were setup in the first cave. We met some really nice fellow hikers and really enjoyed our time at the beach. Sunset from the spot was second only to Polihale beach, which ironically had fewer people on it a few days earlier.
OVERALL EXPERIENCE
What can I say, it truly was an adventure. We were physically tested, but the challenge made the reward only that much sweeter. Our hike in took about 8 hours, with plenty of snack and photo breaks (our lunch spot at Hanakoa was awesome!). Going out it was 7+ hours. We really enjoyed the entire hike and the feeling of accomplishment when we had finished. Plus, that double Bubba burger we had after we hiked out tasted heavenly on the way back to our condo in Poipu!
ADVICE
Others may do it differently, just prepare yourself and bring what you think you will need. I?m convinced we had such a great time since we packed light, took our time and stopped to enjoy the sights. A little bit of physical conditioning before the hike will make the experience more enjoyable. We also found it very interesting to take a helicopter tour before the hike, so we could get a glimpse of the beach as well as the trail ? it really helped us know what to expect.
Happy Hiking!
Jun 23, 2010 5:18PM
good point!
I live on Kauai and would like to help get the project council to perhaps see your valid comment as a reason to reconsider plans, maybe a circulation of a petition stating the facts as you put it in your previous comment, may be all it takes to make a positive change.
Jun 24, 2010 5:54PM
Hello Everyone.
I will be flying into Lihue (from Seattle) on July 3rd and heading out to Kalalau Trail that day. I will, most likely, hike a bit on the 3rd and then do the majority of the hike on the 4th. I will be there from July 3rd - July 8th/9th. (Need to fly to Honolulu after Kalalau for best friend\'s wedding) I will be packing a hammock, instead of a tent, and I will be hiking alone. Anybody going to be on the trail?
Cheers!
Jun 25, 2010 7:23PM
Can you imagine the NPS drilling and removing rockfall hazards in yosemite? This is a huge waste of resources needed in other places on the trail.
Jun 26, 2010 2:59PM
Kathy-- I'm 26, spent 2 nights on the Kalalau (6/20 - 6/22) and went it alone. I had no problems whatsoever with being by myself regarding other hikers being creeps or anything. Everybody I encountered was super friendly and I even ran into a middle-aged man on my hike out that told me I was not only brave for doing the full hike alone, but that he admired me for it. I even asked some locals what they thought about me going by myself before heading out and they didn't seem to think it was a crazy idea. If you have the time and gear, I'd recommend doing the full 22 miles. It's probably the single most incredible thing I've ever done!
Jun 28, 2010 12:11AM
Trip Report: Backpacking with a baby! We didn?t see much in the forum about bringing babies or toddlers and wanted to share our experience. Three adults (mom, dad, and Papa) & one 16-month old. We hiked all the way in to Kalalau in one day, spent a day resting in the valley, and then out in one day. Dad carried 20lb daughter in an ?Ergo? front pack plus 30lbs of gear in backpack. The trail is very doable but lots of hiking and camping experience plus training with gear on uneven terrain is a must for the safety and benefit of both baby and parents. Bring plenty of water and purification tablets; we live on Kauai and hike A LOT and consumed much more water on this trail than expected.
Jun 28, 2010 6:38PM
I'm leaving to go on the Kalalau trail on july 4th or 5th and i was wondering if you were allowed to make fires at the campsites.
-Thanks Eric
Jun 28, 2010 7:56PM
My wife and I camped at Hanakapi`ai Beach on June 26/27. There was a yellow tent set up on the sand. Apparently it had been there a few days, the door to the tent was opened and all of the person's stuff was in the tent (including a laptop and cell phone according to one couple we talked to). Does anyone know anything about this, or what happened to the person who was in the tent?
Jun 28, 2010 11:55PM
Thanks TIM - very helpful. We are going to take your advice and stay an extra night. I am looking for info on the trail repairs, but don't see anything posted. Hopefully (Aug 28th) we will be there early enough and avoid any closures. Very excited for this trip!
Thanks again!
Jun 29, 2010 11:10PM
Great job on this web site and thank you for all the information! We have hiked the Kalalau trail in November 2008 and are going to do it again in July of this year. This time we are spending two nights to enjoy and explore the Kalalau beach area. Here are my questions:
Fire: is it still permitted to cook on open fire?
Sleeping arrangement: I am trying to find the best comprimise between lightweigt, comfort, and warmth withouth spending a fortune. Last time we camped at Kalalau with a lightweight tent and only sleeping bags - no sleeping pads. This was warm enough, but not comfortable. The ground was too hard to NOT have a sleeping pad and I barely slept all night. This year we are bringing inflatable sleeping pads with little or no insulation (very light) and I was hoping to pack light by leaving home the sleeping bags, but during the last trip (which was in November) it was too chilly to not have a sleeping bag. How will it be in July at night? Should I bring the sleeping bag anyway or do you sugest another option? Please note that we will be in a tent.
Thank you in advance!
Jun 30, 2010 7:19PM
Thanks to you guys for helping make our Napali coast backpacking trip a smashing success. My wife and I spent 4 nights on the trail and I wouldn't recommend that anyone spend less time there. I had wanted to take this trip for 28 years, since a in-and-back one day trip to Hanakoa Falls. We took it easy going in and out, staying at Hanakoa both ways, that gave us leisure time at the falls. At Kalalau we stayed in a small sea cave. My advice, pack light and spend as much time there as possible. As a friend once told me, "I guess you could go through the Louvre in an hour if you hurried." This is the Louvre of the outdoors. By the way I am 65 and my wife is 55 and we had no problems, but be sure you are in good shape for this trip. Re. transportion, you can rent-a-wreck from Island Rentals for about $150/wk, making your trip easier.
Jun 30, 2010 7:21PM
I don't want to hog the message board, but I wanted to add one more comment. After what we had read earlier, we were surprised to find the trail in good shape and very little garbage at Kalalau. The pit toilets must have been cleaned as well. Seems like somebody has done some work in there, gratefully.
Jun 30, 2010 7:26PM
hiking the trail but wondering where's the best place to leave a rental car since don't want to leave it at the trail head for 3 days? r there shuttle from hotels in hanalei or princeville?
Jul 01, 2010 2:14AM
I'm coming to Kauai at the end of August and I'm interested in doing some hiking and camping. I'm with a friend who is not as active but we want to do this hike is it manageable if we pace ourselves and camp along the way?
Jul 02, 2010 2:53AM
My husband and I hiked the trail on June 15-17. We are in our early 60s. We trained for 14 weeks on what we thought was rugged terrain. Still, Kalalau kicked our butts and tested our fitness. We made it to the end, camped along the way, and came out in three days. It was breathtaking, strenuous, physically challenging, and truly memorable. We are so glad we did it! I have some problems with vertigo, so there were spots that gave me some difficulty. All the people we met on the trail were awesome - helpful, supportive, fun and energizing. If you are looking for a challenge, enjoy new experiences, and love the earth and it's beauty - just do it. We may not pass that way again, but we are so happy to be among those who have been on that trail. Namaste.
Jul 02, 2010 5:51PM
Thanks KES for this great website. I got many useful tips from it in preparation for our trip. Just returned from 5D/4N (June 27 to 1 July) trip on the trail and it was AWESOME. Everyone was super friendly, the trail was in good shape and not a lot of trash (except for some around Mile 2 Hanakapi'ai Beach/Falls area). I have a few comments to share or reinforce from others. If you don't rent a car (and leave it at the trail head), taxi transportation to the trailhead will run about $125 one-way. Our group found a driver on Craigslist that was super. Got picked up at the airport, stopped at Walmart for fuel and on to Hanelei. We pre-arranged a pick-up time coming off the trail and the round trip cost was only $125 for a group of seven. There are so many beautiful sights to see, I really recommend at least 4 nights on the trail if you have the time. No issues with water, there were plenty of streams along the way. We filtered all water and treated with tablets just in case. I recommend taking two quart containers - one to drink from and one as your resupply bottle (to give the purification tablets time to work so you can keep moving). Go light and respect the trail - pay attention to your footing and if you want to sight see, stop to look around. The "scary" part around Mile 7 is not bad, just take your time and you should be fine. Overall, it was incredible and I definately want to hike the Kalalau again.
Jul 02, 2010 7:14PM
My husband and I (both early 50s) took on this great experience on 3/1/10. Never saw this website, not huge hikers, didn\'t really know alot about the trail, actually just exploring that day and ended up at Ke\'e. We grabbed our backpack with 3 or 4 bottles of water, a candybar, a positive attitude and started up at noon. Yes, it was strenuous but THE most rewarding experience! We took our time, watched our steps, stopped and enjoyed the views, enjoyed that Butterfinger (we could have done a commercial for them!) and drank all the water. We came across a man (60ish?) who was exhausted and obviously dehydrated-shared a water w/him. Definitely not a place to get stranded, hurt or be unprepared for in any way. We did the 2 mile trek. Reading this whole blog NOW has made me relive that beautiful day-thank you for that! Anyone \'not sure\' about doing this trail should just plan for an early start, bring water/snacks, go slow (plenty of room for passers no worries), get to the beach (2Mi in), rest and come back. Be aware of sunset time before you go-you don\'t want to be up there getting dark! It will STILL be a very rewarding experience even if you don\'t go the full 11/22 miles. You\'ll be tired but happy you did it! Got back down to watch the sunset at Ke\'e -NOT to be missed with a perfect profile of the Napali Coast in the setting sun shot. You\'ll -never- forget the day.
Jul 03, 2010 8:14AM
We had a great hike (with much thanks to this site and the many helpful posts). Our one mishap was that on June 28, our only camera, which was in a little gray pouch attached to my backpack belt, somehow came off somewhere between Hanakoa and Hanakapiai. If anyone finds it (pouch with a small Canon inside that has a sticker saying "Jim & June" on the front), please email us at jim@mattik.com, and we'll take it from there. Mahalo! ~Jim & June
Jul 05, 2010 10:48PM
My wife and me are coming to Kauai for a wedding in October and wanted to do the Kalalau trail sometime in mid October but when I got to make reservations it say it is closed! Do you know if this is true or is my computer acting funny again? Sure hope it's the latter. Great site!!
Korie
Jul 06, 2010 4:36PM
Ciao! Kauai Explorer Staff,
We have never been to Kauai or any of the other Islands and after careful review we had decided Kauai was the one Island we just couldnt pass up. I found your site (LOVE IT!!!) and we have decided that this is something we just couldnt not do. My question/concerns are we would be going with our 15yr old and 8yr old daughters. We camp and have done some hiking we just wanted to make sure that were not putting them in any danger. challenging were fine with, (im afraid of heights so I know we will have to go slow thru that part) and we realize when your out in that kind environment anything can happen. But is this a doable hike for children of that age? We have no medical problems or anything like that we just wanted to get you professional opinion. We were looking at going in October. Would this be a good time to take them? Looking forward to hearing from you!~Ciao! K
Jul 07, 2010 8:27PM
My friend and I are hiking this trail starting 9/5. We are trekking the entire 11 miles the first day and camping at Kalalau Beach. The second day, 9/6, we will take more time to hike to all the waterfalls and side trails on our way out. We will camp that night at Hanakoa. Then on 9/7, we will finish the hike out and see all of the other side trails and waterfalls on the way out. After the 7th, the trail is closed for camping. FYI
We are bringing a water filter. We are only taking day packs. Does anyone think it was chilly at night camping? I\'m trying to decide if I should bring my sleeping bag or not. I\'m leaning towards a tent type of hammock and just a bag liner. Any thoughts?
Jul 08, 2010 10:50PM
Hello, I was wondering if anyone can give details about the upcoming closure of this camping area? From what I understand it begins sept 7. Will the trail remain open? Was planning on doing the hike with my wife in late september for a 5-day backpack to kalalau, but i heard the area will be closed. thanks-
Jul 08, 2010 11:00PM
I CAN´T BELIEVE IT!!! Trail closed just when we are going!!And we are from Spain!!!Arrggg.. KES,Do you think there is any chance this project doesnt star by the 7 of september as it says? You know this people, are they punctual on dates? We were planning to be there by the 14. In case it\'s closed, what can happen if we hop in the trail and try to do it anyways? Or what about if we go in Kayak or a boat takes us to kalalau beach? I cant miss this!!
Are the views much different the first miles than the last miles in case we could just get to Hanikapiai. We will miss the best part right??!
I can´t belive it!!
Jul 10, 2010 8:09PM
SUE:
From my point of view, I think it\'s a big, terrible mistake to spend only one night at Kalalau beach. I spent two nights, and it seemed way too short. While the entire Na Pali Coast is absolutely incredible Kalalau beach in valley is simply stunning on an even more breathtaking level than the rest of Na Pali. It\'s the proverbial icing on the cake.
There is so much to explore in Kalalau Beach/Valley: the beach itself being a mile long, with tons of sea caves as you explore westward (make sure you do this, but, careful, watch the ocean!). The valley includes a lot of \"side trails\" to secluded swimming holes along Kalalau Stream--which rivals any other stream from Kee to Kalalau (in my opinion). You can leave your pack at your camp, go exploring all day, then come back home and not have to re-setup camp!
Spending the night at Hanakoa Campground was very anticlimactic compared to the Kalalau Campground. Although a nice spot, it\'s very rainy, heavily forested, with lots of bugs and mosquitoes. If you\'re in decent shape, it\'s best to do the 11 miles in one trip both directions, and just spend as many nights as you possibly can camping in Kalalau.
With a camp setup at Kalalau, you can do much exploring during the daytime without hauling a heavy pack around, and without having to setup camp but only once. It will maximize your time and energy, and you will get much more out of the Kalalau experience. You will have plenty of amazing things to see just along the main 11-mile trail; however, if you do have extra time and energy on the way back to Kee, my recommendation would be I would be to hide your big pack somewhere, and with a light day pack, take a side trip to either Hanakoa Falls (1.5-mile round trip detour) or Hanakapiai Falls (4-mile round trip detour). But ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE TIME AND ENERGY! (Don\'t let the sun set on you). Both of these falls are simply stunning. Hanakapiai, in my opinion, a little more so (but it\'s farther, and can be done as a 1-day hike from Kee Beach).
I wish you the best! Enjoy!
Makaio
Jul 11, 2010 3:44PM
I started the first 2 miles of this trail about 4 years ago. It was amazing and I have been wanting to do the rest of the trail for years. A friend just moved to Hawaii and I am going to visit in September. I just noticed the trail is going to be closed all of September and October. I am very upset about this. I guess that means no hiking?
I had planned to do the trail over 5d/4n and camp and enjoy the scenery. Any other recommendations on other islands for equally stunning hikes if this is closed?
Justin
Jul 12, 2010 1:50AM
TO JONY : the trail and campsites are all closed most of Sept.and after (for how long i dont know for sure). you may be out of luck .....
Jul 12, 2010 2:22AM
My wife and I are doing the hike for 3-4 days and would like to use a shuttle from a hotel, hostel, etc instead of renting a car and parking it for 4 days. Is this possible?
Jul 14, 2010 9:58PM
1) FOLLOW-UP ON LOST CAMERA (which we reported July 3, 2010):
Thanks to the help of many, our camera has been recovered. A hiker (with whom we exchanged a few encouraging words as we crossed paths) found it, and posted an ad in a local paper, which someone else we met in Kauai read and then called us about! Mahalo to any readers here who were on the lookout for it.
2) TO SUE (re. sleeping bag Q): A search for the word "temperature" on this page will give you some useful info, but here are our 2 cents: We camped at Kalalau June 25-27 (2010), and we were both fine sleeping in our tent only in swimsuits (no bag or sack at all) for 2 nights. The 3rd night was cooler, so June (wife) used her lightweight sleeping bag as a blanket, and Jim (husband, who didn?t bring or need even a sleep sack) just put on long sleeves/hiking pants. We did see some doing the hammock/sleep sack combination you mentioned.
3) REGARDING THE TRAIL CLOSURES: We were told by some the reason for the upcoming closures is for maintenance, but other locals said it's because of the filming of the latest "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie! (They were already setting up for filming when we were there.)
Jul 19, 2010 3:42PM
Crushingly disappointed that the trail will be closed during the time my husband and I will be there for our honeymoon in October. Can\'t believe our bad luck. Can anyone recommend a hiking/camping experience that can even remotely close to this? Or even a somewhat decent one. We are determined to do some hiking and camping during our stay and have 3 days/nights to fill in with these activities. I appreciate any advice on this matter. Thanks in advance!
Jul 20, 2010 5:08PM
I have a question for anyone who has hiked both the Kalalau Trail to Kalalau Beach and the Nualolo Cliffs Trail to Awa'awapuhi. Is the exposed section after mile 7 on the Kalalua Trail narrower than the 1/4 mile washed out section of the Nualolo Cliffs Trail immediately after leaving the Nualolo Trail? I hiked the 11.3 mile Nualolo Cliffs/Awa'awapuhi Loop in June and have hiked to Hanakapiai Falls twice before, and have a strong desire to hike all the way to Kalalau Beach. The washed out section of the Nualolo Cliffs Trail scared the heck out of me, but I made it through there fine.
Jul 20, 2010 6:29PM
I´ve got a permitfor kalalau beach 2.-4.sept 2010, but I would like to do this 2 days later...campsite now is fully booked for these dates...can i go anyway, what could be the consequences? thanks, ralf
Jul 21, 2010 7:30PM
Hello all, just completed the Kalalau trail last week, I'm still in beautiful Kauai exploring dayhikes with my friend. This is my 3rd time in, I did the full 11 miles in one day and had some issues. I just about blacked out on a narrow part around mile 8, sat down on a rock and waited for a couple of hikers behind me, asked if I could hike with them as I wasn't feeling well. They were gracious and watched over me (I call them my good luck angels from the "two-wink" gecko I saw the night before the trip).
Spent 2 nights Kalalau beach, tented on the bluff next to the waterfall. The DLNR has put up signs saying that area of the campground is closed, but there were tons of people tenting, both locals and us visitors. I only needed a sleepliner and slept in my clothes. Many people camped in the caves, they seemed to be the happenin' place.
I broke up the trip coming out and camped at Hanakoa 1 night. Not much rain, my brother's good tent held up well. Since I'm from Minnesota, I'm used to putting up with the mosquitos and the bug spray kept them at bay. It was colder at Hanakoa, I needed more clothes and a hat to keep warm. One of the locals showed me the trailhead to Hanakoa waterfall, since the sign was missing. Someone had put a large red towel on a tree that indicated the start of the trail. I was so excited to see the waterfall! Only about 1/2 hour hike in my water sandals, not to muddy, and just awesome to view!
I was glad I broke up the hike, I encountered rain just after I broke up camp and it rained all the way to Kee beach. I was soaking and so was everything else on me. My dear friend took me to Bubba's burgers after the hike, we ran into a couple of other fellow Kalalau hikers also eating burgers and fries. Much better then my freeze dried meals.
I came across a few people that didn't have water filter or tabs! One guy was getting very ill, I heard him moaning and groaning in the tent across from me all night. It's important to bring, I also came across a dead animal upstream at mile 4 and avoided filtering water from there.
Many people were being boated in and out of Kalalau (illegally) when I was there, but I think the beauty of the trail makes it worth the hike.
A helicopter landed at Kalalau when I was there, had had everyone without permits running scared (I had one). The rumor was that contractors doing the work in the fall on the rock migitation were surveying the area. But from the above post, I wonder if it might have been a flim crew. In addition to landing, they were circling many times for views. ?
Pack as light as you possibly can. It's important.
Jul 22, 2010 5:14PM
Wow, I'm really impressed by Gina hiking this alone, and Gordon & Arlene attempting this with a baby, of all things. I hiked with one other girl, and was terrified much of the way by the cliffs. But of course awe-struck too.
Jul 26, 2010 3:42AM
I have had the great pleasure of hiking the trail 3 time, Oct. 1990, Sept. 1992 and Oct. 1994
The first time in, me and my friends were definitely over packed wth gear. We figured we might need extra batteries, extra clothing and many other none essentials. To say the least, we had to much weight, and the hike was more difficult. Still it was more then worth it. The valley is the most relaxing and mind clearing place I have ever been to.
The second time in, we were better prepared, and knew what we were doing. The only thing we were not prepared for was Hurricane Iniki. We had no idea it was on it\'s way, untill helicopters landed on the beach. We were told to grab our valuables, and leave everthing else behind, and they flew us to safety. I must say that was one hell of a day!
The third time in, was to see what Iniki had done to the trail and the valley. We could see obvious changes to the landscape, both on the trail and in the valley. I was glad to see that big pool and the orange tree were still their.
One last thing. Anyone considering hiking the 11 miles, DO IT!!!!!!
Jul 27, 2010 1:02AM
TO RALF : GO !
Jul 27, 2010 1:36AM
TO ANGELA : check out the Waimea Canyon area for great hikes and camping
Jul 27, 2010 1:40AM
TO JAKE : there are some pretty narrow parts but as long as you dont try tackling them already exhausted , there's really nothing to worry about, just relax and stay focused,one step at a time, and it's over before you know it. do it at your own pace,even if it means a little tiptoeing or getting on all fours for a moment. relax and enjoy !
Jul 27, 2010 2:45PM
I did this hike in May, alone. I'm a 33 year old woman and did not feel uncomfortable at all and was so happy I decided to do it despite my friends refusing to go. I went ultralight and didnt even pack a tent. Slept under the trees in a thin thermal emergency sleeping bag that weighed about 6 ounces. I thought the cliff section of the trail was fine. I'm not sure why people freak out. Up until a year ago I used to be terrified of heights and it didn't bother me at all. That being said, be cautious. It was very dry and someone in front of me stumbled on the loose rocks and dirt so there is always potential for something bad to happen. I hiked the full 11 miles in one day, and the full 11 miles out the next. I'm happy I did it, but it certainly was NOT easy on the feet or body! Bring flip flops or something to cross the streams with. I ended up getting my hiking shoes soaked and back to back days in wet shoes aren't good for the toe nails. They aren't very pretty right now ;-) Overall, for everyone hiking in just part of the way and not doing the full thing....you are missing out!! Miles 7-11 are the most amazing part of the hike and going through the first 7 aren't worth it, in my opinion, unless you do the whole thing.
Jul 28, 2010 12:19AM
To Jake: I haved hiked Nualolo/Awaawapuhi loop 4x and Kalalau (full trail) 3x. I just hiked both within the past 2 weeks. You asked about the washed out section on Nualolo cliff trail that is 1/4 mile long. The mile 7 stuff on Kalalau is similar, but has better footing along the cliffs. There is a bit of washed out stuff both coming down the switchback going into the cliff section and along the mid section (the famous picture spot), but if you take your time, one footstep at a time, you should be fine. The biggest problem I encoutered was that I had alot of weight on my back as I was hiking alone (about 33 lbs.) It shifted my center of balance and I had to really watch it when I stepped. I also wore hiking boots, they gave me better ankle/foot support, but they were heavier then hiking shoes. Make sure you don't have a fear of heights, the mental part usually is worse for people then the physical part. I must say, I had about 50% control of my boot with each step on the loosest stuff on Kalalau. I felt that I had 100% control of my boot step on Nualolo links part. That's my 2 cents. I say "go for it" concerning Kalalau, you won't be dissapointed!
Jul 28, 2010 6:15AM
Hy guys, i will be in kauai on 16 of next august and i'd like to do this fantastic trail. I'm from Italy and from here it's hard obtain certain informations about the permit. In any websites i read that permits for more than one day (i need 3 days one) would be asked one year in advance, in other websites i read that i can can obtain it in state park office of kauai. We will be 9 people, and we would like to do the entire trail in 2 days and half. Which is the true situation and the way to obtain it?
thanks to who have to reply me
Bye
Jul 30, 2010 8:47PM
Edoardo,
One easy way to obtain the permit is through online reservation. You can reserve online and print out the permit. That's what we did when we went in June.
Below is the site for making reservations and obtaining a permit. Pick which island (Kauai for the Kalalau trail) and go through the process. I think you need to create an account first before going to the reservation page.
link:https://camping.ehawaii.gov/camping/welcome.html
I completed this trail with my husband in June in one day and stay at Kalalau beach for 3 nights and hiked out in a day. No problem with the narrow section. The unofficial trail fixer, Bill has done a great job maintaining the trail. It's a great trail. Good luck!
Aug 03, 2010 7:55PM
Did the hike in and out and camped for 2 weeks. stayed all around, but mostly up @ Waimakimaki(sp) falls at the very end of the valley..it's about a 75m waterfall, absolutely gorgeous. most ppl do no go up that far into the valley. ate nothing but mango's, gauva and lilikoi. One of the most memorable experiences of my life. Stayed away from the camps, to much drama and drama queens around them. Hike out took me 6hrs.
Aug 07, 2010 10:23PM
Anyone with 2 permits to Kalalau on Sept 4th want to trade for the 3rd or the 6th? My husband and I rearranged our entire 10th anniversary trip to be able to do this hike (with all of the closings) and we have the 3, 5,6 but need the 4th. thank you!!
John
Aug 08, 2010 4:13AM
Beautiful Camp Setting!! just came out yesterday after 3 nights. Star gazing at night was awesome. lots of people on the trail. The caves are cool. Lots of people not realizing what they are in for (wearing crocks, sandles, leaving Ke'e beach at 2pm and trying to make it in with slower female wife). So many people there without permits. The noise at night in the leaves is toads. Great trail, a little muddy miles 1-4. Mile 6.5-8.0 isn't as bad as I thought; wide enough, just becareful of falling small rocks when its windy. You can catch a boat ride back if you get injured, tired or other from Ikeaka. Plenty of streams/water. You need hiking boots and a pair of water shoes or teva's. bring a frisbee.
Aug 09, 2010 12:45AM
Did the trail out and back in one day. What a great, great hike. For anyone wanting to do it (in a day or more) i suggest an early morning start, and good shoes and pack light!!
Aug 14, 2010 11:14PM
Hiked the trail last week and camped for 2 nights at kalalau beach. Most amazing hike and experience ever, I will never forget sleeping under the stars and playing in the surf. Just very peaceful and amazing scenery. However, there\'s some things you should be aware of. When you arrive at the beach, you will see signs posted \"area closed\" that lead off into the trees. These are areas the state has closed off due to rock fall danger but you will see a lot of campers camp anyway. Mostly the \"locals\" that are living there but a few day campers as well. If you carry on the beach and walk past the falls, there is a cave where a lot of day campers camp. This area while not very private does provide very good shade and good views of the beach. The pit toilets are in poor shape and need attention. Also, trash is everywhere, I found numerous articles of underwear just thrown out in the open and its not uncommon to see frying pans, sleeping bags, generally anything that was \"deemed\" too heavy to take on the 11 mile hike back was left behind. Last note I\'ll mention, is that campers use kolea falls for bathing. I witnessed this twice as I was filtering my water and having groups of people take turns using a 4ft pvc pipe to redirect water from the falls over their hair and down the inside of their shorts. When I saw that, I was very glad I had a good filtering system. I understand that the trail will be closed for 2 months while the state addresses the rock fall danger issues. Hopefully, they will pick up the trash and address the toilets.
Amorosa
Aug 15, 2010 8:59PM
Hiking the entire Kalalau Trail has been on my mental \"do list\" since I moved to Kauai in October \'94. As I am 61, I figured I\'d best do it sooner rather than later. my original plan was to hike in and pay for a boat pickup out. But the opportunity to kayak in with friends and hike out solo presented itself and I took it. In retrospect, this was a very good thing as it put me and my 22+ lb pack on the narrowest, drop-offiest (scariest) parts of the trail when I was fresh.
I don\'t think I would have done so well hiking in those last few miles tired.
I left Kalalau early morning, don\'t know exactly what time. Not too far along I, hiking alone, asked (who, myself?) aloud at a few iffy spots, \"This is a trail?!\" No way to go but onward. The first 5 miles from the Kalalau, being unknown, seemed REALLY long. Having done a day hike a few years back to Hanakoa I was somewhat familiar with the trail from there. From Hanakapiai out (which I\'ve done a number of times), it seemed like a cakewalk. The longest part was from the trailhead to my car--I know it wasn\'t that far down the road when I came in. I feel righteous!!
Scott Rappold
Aug 17, 2010 3:58PM
Flying out from Colorado to do the trail Sept. 1-4. Anyone know if I will be able to bring my pocket rocket camp stove in my checked luggage? Also - is there a place in Kauai where I could buy fuel for it? Thx.
Aug 18, 2010 9:52PM
My husband and I hiked the full 11 miles each way with 2 days at Kalalau beach - in on May 28th - out on the 31st. Living on Oahu, we have hiked many trails with steep, vertical climbs and consistent elevation gains and losses; but after 11 miles of this with the added weight of our backpacks, we had brought ourselves to our limits! Yet, the breathtaking beauty of the Napali Coast compares to no other, and our endeavor along this trail was certainly worth the challenge. On the way in we crossed paths with Bill Summers at mile 5, and met him again on the way out just after mile 8, where we spent some time engaged in conversation. This is a man to be admired, and who deserves the upmost respect. Among other things, we talked about trail maintenance, cliff erosion due to the goat?s insatiable appetites, and the debilitating situation at Kalalau Beach. Those of you who have done or will do this hike can form your own opinions, but after our experience at Kalalau camp, I feel it is important to share the facts. There have been numerous postings on this website with mention of the camp?s ?residents.? What astonishes me is how the general consensus seems to support that these people have the right to claim this area to themselves. While hikers are certain to get a multitude of ?Aloha? greetings from the glassy-eyed, hazed inhabitants along every step while at camp, rest assured that you will never be afforded any of the choice campsites that have been claimed by these squatters. All of the campsites river side or ocean view at mile 10 or beach front at mile 11 are indefinitely taken. Hikers, after paying for permits and hiking in 11 miles are left with choosing a campsite in the trees, among the relentless ants and cockroaches, or take a spot exposed on the beach. Even the caves have become permanent dwellings housed with beach chairs, coolers and hanging laundry. Perhaps the most unsightly and disturbing site is what appears to be ?squatters central,? where what was apparently once 5 campsites in a lovely location just above the beach is now cleared into one huge dwelling. Here you will see residents lounging among permanently affixed tarps, hammocks, lawn and beach chairs, large coolers, plastic buckets, an axe, leaf rake, CD player, a surfboard (and other things tossed about in the woods), empty half-gallon plastic water and liquor bottles strewn about the ground, and even a community art wall (how enriching!). There are two other campsites combined and devoted to their trash accumulation (hence the cockroaches), and at least one campsite that reeked of urine. The fact is that there are only 2 compost toilets for the entire camp, and the camp was designed to accommodate permitted hikers and not the hoards of unsought inhabitants. The louve itself could be kept in far better condition, and someone vandalized the ventilation spinners; but if used as directed it could be possible to have it odorless.
The impact on this once pristine environment is evident and sad. Unlike Bill Summers who packs out his trash, hikes the trail for minimal supplies and for the food necessary to supplement the goats he hunts; the squatters at Kalalau bring in their lavish supplies and themselves via boat greeted by other residents in kayaks. The boats are then left anchored off shore, the kayaks scattered along the beach. We saw a few who hiked in or out, but with only the food and water they take for their hike (never packing out trash). The afternoon that we arrived at camp, we saw at least 5 full contractor weight bags come in by boat (meat and cheese packaged in Styrofoam and plastic containers, beer, liquor and a multitude of other items that can be purchased at Foodland), while not one bag of trash went out.
It?s heartbreaking to think that this visual impact, the booming of a CD player, abundance of pot and alcohol is appealing to some, but to us it was disappointing so see the destruction of this nature wonderland (not to mention sleeping with the cockroaches). P.S my husband and I are in our 50?s ? anyone who hires a boat out is a wimp!
Aug 19, 2010 1:32AM
Just a followup for people doing the trail. I did this trail last summer, one day in, camped overnight & one day out. To help make the hiking easier, I strongly recommended use of hiking poles for balance support, especially if you are carrying a significant load on your back for camping purposes. I also recommend lightweight waterproof hiking shoes or boots to make hiking less cumbersome and to be able to walk through the streams more easily without having to stop and change shoes. I used the Teva waterproof hiking sandals for this purpose. Since I scraped up my ankle rather badly on the way back, without the hiking poles, I would not have been able to make the return back in one day without them. You may not need to use them throughout the trail, but there are sections where having them will make you feel glad you have them.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 21, 2010 6:21PM
Janet - you described the scene quite accurately. Kalalau is an mismanaged free-for-all where most take more than they give (this includes the DLNR and the squatters). What the Hawaii Vistor's Bureau claims as one of the true wonders of the World - and it is - is also a shame. I guess it looks good from a helicopter but on the ground it is trash, pests, partying and total lack of love. Now they are going to close the park for two months and stop rocks from falling.
Aug 22, 2010 2:42PM
To Scott R.: I was able to pack my JetBoil stove in my checked luggage, I flew Delta. I actually called Delta before I left the mainland after hearing stories that airlines pulled stoves from checked luggage. They told me their policy was "as long as it is in it's original packaging and hasn't been used". Well, I actually had the original box for it (don't ask me why I kept that) and it had been used. So I put it in my checked bag hoping they wouldn't pull it before I got to Kauai. It made it safely (in the original box) both to and from Kauai and it was used. No problem buying fuel in Kauai, they are lots of places on the north side as well as in Lihue or Kapaa.
I was interested to hear Janet's view of Kalalau beach and the "residents" messes. I was there just a month ago (stayed 4 days) and didn't have the same problems. There were many good camping sites open on the bluff behind the beach very near the waterfall. And I didn't see much trash or have any noise problems. I did see (every morning) the illegal boat drop off and pick ups but the "residents" all seemed to move up valley after being dropped off. I only saw one "resident" crew with a decked out area near the beach, but they were pleasant and quiet. Maybe it makes a difference what week one hits in the summer? When I was there in March of '09, there were hardly any campers and I didn't see any "residents", but the weather was terrible - rainy and muddy.
Aug 23, 2010 1:36AM
My husband and I are going to be in Kauai Sept. 18-21 and were planning to do the full hike and camp. Just as I was getting more and more excited I learned today about the closures. I have to say, I am more than just a little bit disappointed that we will only be a couple weeks too late! Does anyone have any suggestions for what else we should do? And what exactly are they doing to the trail and/or campsites? What happens to the people that are out there when it closes?
Aug 24, 2010 5:09AM
we are trying to get a permit to hike in on 8/27 and back out on 8/28, but the website says the trail is closed already. is that true? i thought it was closing in sept??? Help!
Aug 25, 2010 8:35PM
I totally agree with Janet\'s observations. I can only hope that while the state is busy for 2 months trying to eradicate the falling rocks(?!?!?!)that they also clean up the actual campground itself. It\'s disgusting to see all that rubbish piling up and the horrible shape of the toilets etc.
Are the hippies just going to scurry into the valley for 2 months? Will they actually have to leave? Will all their crap be thrown out?
How will the state deal with what could be a hostile reception by said hippies?
Inquiring minds want to know....
Aug 28, 2010 6:12AM
Scott-I was able to take my pocket rocket to Kauai as checked in luggage. I bought a couple of MSR canisters ($8.95) at Kauai Kayak in Hanalei. They open at 8:00am!
I just got back from 5 amazing days in the Kalalau Valley! This blog site was very helpful on planning the trip,including what to pack and how to approach the trail. Thank you all! We got started at 10:30am and took our time through the valleys, taking pictures and enjoying the views. It got warm and humid in the jungle, but then we would come out to the ocean and the breeze would cool us right down. We spent the first night at Hanakoa CG (not a bad choice) and had time to hike a mile to Big Pool (an amazing waterfall, cascading from the cliffs into the perfect swimming hole). The next morning we hiked through the eroded section without any problem and set up camp in one of the sea caves on the beach! We found mile 7-9 passable with slow and careful foot steps. I wore a pair of light hikers and my sons were happy in their tennis shoes. The balcony area follows closely along the cliff, but the trail is about 18\" wide on a solid rock base. The rock wall was easy to lean into and that section was not a problem.
We avoided much of the party scene by camping down the beach a ways. Many will kayak to the beach or boats will illegally drop groups off to party for a few days on the beach. I understand that the State is writing out citations to the illegal boats and applaud the effort to manage the pristine area.
Sadly,we found garbage left in the campgrounds and a pile in the toilet at Hanakoa. I had a pair of nitrile gloves and a Hefty bag to fill up and hiked out more than I brought in. If we all could hike our own trash and a few extras, it could make a great difference in the condition of the campgrounds. It would be a small way of paying respect to the land and the Hawaiians that are sharing it with us!
Take the Challenge!
Aug 30, 2010 8:36PM
I wanted to surprise my wife with a week getaway to do some hiking< but was disappointed to find out we could not get permits because of the limit. When would be the best time to book and best time to go?
Kauai Explorer Staff
Aug 30, 2010 10:02PM
Hi Juan - the park is supposed to open again in early November. Day hiking to Hanakapai is still open and there are many other great hikes on Kauai.
Sep 03, 2010 5:58PM
I was there from June 30th to July 2nd andI agree with Janet's assessment. This is truly an amazing scenery but this is not a pristine environment and the overcrowding is taking its toll on the area. We did one dayhike up the valley and it was one campsite after another. I counted 57 occupied campsites when I walked out (not counting those in the valley). They were eating unripened mangos, overusing the waterfall (shower) and otherwise exploiting the land.
The advice on here is solid, pack light and get in shape. There is way too much discussion about the narrow trail and the risk of falling off, exercise common sense and anyone can do it. It certainly isn't a reason to not attempt the trail. Overall Kalalau is an incredible trip and well worth your time.
Kauai Explorer Staff
Sep 05, 2010 7:23PM
Yes Frank - Kalalau is awesome. The combination of DLNR mismanagement and non-contributing squatters is a shame.
Sep 06, 2010 12:43AM
I had quite a different experience in October than what I have been reading regarding summertime in Kalalau.
I suppose the easier access with boat landings and kayakers in the summer promotes the overcrowding and abuse. Last October I had my choice of campsites. There was very little trash. I spent days up-valley and rarely saw another person. My hike to Davis Falls was in total solitude. Big Pool was my own private swimming hole.
There were only a handful of \"residents\" and they actually were cleaning up trash left by thoughtless campers or overly-tired hikers who brought too much in and just \"lightened\" their packs for the return trip. The garbage had been collected and put in plastic bags. There was quite a pile of bags...looked like a year\'s worth. Didn\'t seem to be anyway to get rid of the bags. The toilets weren\'t pristine in October but were surely usable.
I like Michale\'s suggestion of taking out what you bring in and then some. We need to be stewards of this valley.
I do wish DLNR would see the value of dedicating personnel and resources in taking care of Kalalau.
I was planning on returning this October until the \"rock remov